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so is that pretty much it for ROMS?

Before I rooted I would read all these posts about how great the roms would be after Sprint released 2.1. So finally I rooted this weekend, and as I look through all the ROMs they all have major issues, and a lot of the major players have moved on to the EVO. So is that it. As soon as 2.1 comes to us we are left with a bunch of roms that don't work any better, or worse, then stock? That is unless I'm willing to cut out all of HTC and Google software.
Please give me advice as to what I do with this rooted phone now.

Oxrod said:
Before I rooted I would read all these posts about how great the roms would be after Sprint released 2.1. So finally I rooted this weekend, and as I look through all the ROMs they all have major issues, and a lot of the major players have moved on to the EVO. So is that it. As soon as 2.1 comes to us we are left with a bunch of roms that don't work any better, or worse, then stock? That is unless I'm willing to cut out all of HTC and Google software.
Please give me advice as to what I do with this rooted phone now.
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Not all of the phones have major issues if u read a lot of the roms they tell if they have any. Also there r stock roms that can be overclocked. We've had three or four devs leave to the evo. That not the end of the world plus they left with final full working roms. If ur not happy with something then for it itself or realize nothing is perfect and that these devs spend a lot of there free time cooking there roms and get real tired of hearing people complain about something that us free. Be a little grateful. Read, search, to a little homework and then ask the questions u have inside ur head before u post a dumb question

Look around, no one here is going to hold your hand.
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I would chalk up the majority of the "user problems" to user error such as not wiping between flashes or bad 3rd party software with memory leaks or preventing the phone from sleeping...
Sadly a good number of devs went on to the Evo, even worse is some left in the mid of new releases without fixing some bugs.

Even though a couple of the dev's have moved on, there are still some great ones working on the hero. There are at least 6 or 7 fully functioning roms built on 2.1 right now and there's even some movement on 2.2.

vidsid said:
Even though a couple of the dev's have moved on, there are still some great ones working on the hero. There are at least 6 or 7 fully functioning roms built on 2.1 right now and there's even some movement on 2.2.
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As soon as 2.2 is fully functional I'm gonna make a rom of my own with it and I've got my second rom comming soon to 2.1 woohoo lol

Lol, I have been a member here for more then a year, but I don't post because I know what you get here when you post, I had 2 people call my question dumb or call me ungrateful..
Anyways, I was not being mean to the devs. I think their feelings are still intact (those who have not left)
As for reading and searching the forums, which the "positive" posters repeat like a mantra.... well I have been reading, I've been reading like crazy, and All I see are problems with the Roms because no one ever posts positive feedback.
However, I gather from those more productive posts here that the ROMs are very good quality. So from here ill try them out myself, and refrain from posting again for the next year.
Thank you and sorry to all those with tender feelings who where offended by the simplest of posts.

Just an FYI for everyone Fresh just put out a 2.5.2 BETA to donors.
I assume he will leave this one in 100% working order before he dumps the hero for good.
I think he said in the email something along the lines of "last build before FINAL" but don't quote my quote.
I haven't run a damaged ROM in weeks - I went from him to Darch which I feel is the end all.

Papa Smurf151 said:
As soon as 2.2 is fully functional I'm gonna make a rom of my own with it and I've got my second rom comming soon to 2.1 woohoo lol
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Blue echo????
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Kcarpenter said:
Just an FYI for everyone Fresh just put out a 2.5.2 BETA to donors.
I assume he will leave this one in 100% working order before he dumps the hero for good.
I think he said in the email something along the lines of "last build before FINAL" but don't quote my quote.
I haven't run a damaged ROM in weeks - I went from him to Darch which I feel is the end all.
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WERE at
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Yeah, I'm thinking DarchDroid is the end-all-be-all, especially with Darch and Cyanogen working together to bring CyanogenMod 6 to the Hero.

rulyskull said:
WERE at
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I can't give a link, Fresh would be mad a me. Give it a few days and hell have a post in the dev thread.

Kcarpenter said:
I can't give a link, Fresh would be mad a me. Give it a few days and hell have a post in the dev thread.
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Or he can go to geekfor.me and donate to flipz to get access to the beta testing

rulyskull said:
Blue echo????
Sent from my HERO200
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That is my first rom. Coming next is Red dawn to 2.1 roms. I might convert them over when froyo hits

Oxrod said:
.... well I have been reading, I've been reading like crazy, and All I see are problems with the Roms because no one ever posts positive feedback.
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That's odd. I see people in DamageControl and Darchdroid thanking the devs all the time. I haven't had any major issues at all and very few minor ones.

subcypher said:
That's odd. I see people in DamageControl and Darchdroid thanking the devs all the time. I haven't had any major issues at all and very few minor ones.
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Agreed. I get them in my rom thread also. But I also get feed back if things don't which I appreciate cause then I can fix it

subcypher said:
That's odd. I see people in DamageControl and Darchdroid thanking the devs all the time. I haven't had any major issues at all and very few minor ones.
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Agreed. I get them in my rom thread also. But I also get feed back if things don't which I appreciate cause then I can fix it
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OK OK, I'm Wrong. You are right. The person who made this thread is a big dummy who didn't read anything at all, and is a fine example of whats wrong with this website and n00bs in general.

Oxrod said:
OK OK, I'm Wrong. You are right. The person who made this thread is a big dummy who didn't read anything at all, and is a fine example of whats wrong with this website and n00bs in general.
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Lmao maybe u need a bath to get all the sand out of the unmentionable places lmao

Aloysius 2.1 is rock solid, fast, chocked full of goodies, and did I say, STABLE. Blows any stock Sprint ROM out of the water. DarchDroid 2.7 is good and fast if you like AOSP. And I liked RegawMOD a lot too (use Honeybun OC kernel for extra speed). Plenty of others out there as well. I really liked the Blue ROM but my Hero won't load it. Just try them and quit worrying about it. Use apps2sd and then nandroid and you can go back and forth without losing your apps.

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I think he said in the email something along the lines of "last build before FINAL" but don't quote my quote.
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Last build before "FINAL" just means the last non-beta release before an official / final release .

Cyanogenmod for Vibrant? How close are we?

I've been following the progress of the Cyanogenmod development for the Vibrant lately and it seems to be moving pretty quickly, i.e. there already booting into the main UI, I believe. Anyway, I'm still wondering if anyone out there has even a rough estimate of when it will be available for the Vibrant? Thanks in advance.
-bobofosho123

It's done when it's done.

bobofosho123 said:
I've been following the progress of the Cyanogenmod development for the Vibrant lately and it seems to be moving pretty quickly, i.e. there already booting into the main UI, I believe. Anyway, I'm still wondering if anyone out there has even a rough estimate of when it will be available for the Vibrant? Thanks in advance.
-bobofosho123
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Some time in the near, or distant future. One of Cyanogens pet peeves are people asking when it will be there whenever they are able to get it done. All of the dev's have loved ones, jobs etc. We can give estimates all day long ranging from early September to late October/November. Sadly the only ones that do know would be Wes.

talltexan said:
Some time in the near, or distant future. One of Cyanogens pet peeves are people asking when it will be there whenever they are able to get it done. All of the dev's have loved ones, jobs etc. We can give estimates all day long ranging from early September to late October/November. Sadly the only ones that do know would be Wes.
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thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.

bobofosho123 said:
thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.
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We don't even know if 6.1 will be in store for us.
6.0 update from Cyanogen
Things that aren’t in 6.0. but may be in 6.1
Vibrant support
Wimax, HDMI, or FM radio on the EVO
Apps2EXT
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bobofosho123 said:
thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.
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if you arent in a hurry for it then why are you asking for an eta? why dont you go and try to get it working? if you dont contribute anything dont expect stuff from people, no one owes you anything.

98classic said:
if you arent in a hurry for it then why are you asking for an eta? why dont you go and try to get it working? if you dont contribute anything dont expect stuff from people, no one owes you anything.
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I obviously care, and I would like it soon, but I'm not going to hound Wes or any other devs about it, and I don't think posting a question in a thread counts. I'm not a dev and I can't code, so the best I can do is beta/alpha test, and if no one helps me that's perfectly fine.

*1 in the annointing. Cyanogen ftw..
Lovellkid

lol nice I think were about 3 weeks away from a release considering we will get the update then, and the rest will follow after that ...
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Col.Kernel said:
Looking in the mirror as you speak?
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Man I really started one hell of a flame war here, lol .

Honestly Im in NO big hurry for CM6 to come to the Vibrant. I mean I have two other devices running CM6 so I'm enjoying the fact that Vibrant ROMs for now are something of a different nature.
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Kings in waiting, we are waiting for Cyanogen to anoint us.
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What is soo good bout cyanogen
Does he make goood firmware updates?
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While I understand no one wants to give an ETA, but it would be nice to know if it is 20, 50, 60 percent done for example.
I dont see the problem asking this question

tribalb said:
Lol I was being flamed in the fm radio thread just shooting a suggestion. Can we get a rant and rave section and piss each other off. Personally im liking the TW ui. If any ROM comes out still holding the TW ui then ill be happy. Otherwise im just sticking to what I have.
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What draws you to the UI? cause ADW has the sides scrolling option that TW does but you can use themes and such.

Ive seen the adw drawer. It is very similar and I like the convience of the scrolling bottom on the home screen. But im not too sure of stability. I heavily modded my g1. And from time to time I would get force closes. Im trying to minimize the mods on this phone. The adw drawer is not bad. But right now its not something I want on the phone
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The TW drawer is nice, on my phone ADW doesn't load right. When I first go to the tray it gets stuck in a loop where it keeps wanting to load the tray it just can't. After about 5 tries it usually loads. The stock icon's look better than the adw galaxy s theme, and even when I say use stock icons it doesn't use the phones stock icons.

aawww, I missed a flame war.
What's a good flame without little old me?
lol jp
I like TW too.
I like some of the samsung apps over the stock ones.
I'm not as interested in CM6 as I am in Froyo Period.
I would like to see a sense rom, but i doubt that will happen.

Thread closed and cleaned up.

Why my releases now say "Not Available"..

That's about it for me. But first a point or two.
Why I came here, what I hoped to provide and why I'm done:
I will be the first one to acknowledge that TW have this thing down way better than I do! I am running Nero Beta 3 as I am typing this! It would have taken me forever to come up with a 2.2 mounting fix, FOREVER. Even more, they were kind enough to give me my own repo on their site. They have been great to me and I have learned so much from them.
BUT, I wanted to provide a little variety for people between the Eugene/Master/TW releases. I think I did just that.
Mjollnir: My first try at a rom, nothing more that just a really, really big theme.
sXe: My second try which included backwards compatible framework.
Volholl: My JK2 / JK6 / JL1 Hybrid
Volholl Valkyrie: Pure JL4
Volholl Ragnarok: Only known 2.2.1 port released for Vibrant, with working wifi and gps - even with the signal related soft boot bug, I was the only one brave enough to put it all on the line and release it,
Volholl PepperKake : Pure JL5 with all images, sounds plus, plus ripped from Nexus S dump
How is it so easy to criticize someone who spends countless hours putting something together for you for free? When you have done nothing for the community other than demand more?
As far as I know, everyone respects sombionix, yet even he has had to come on here and defend a stock release because everyone kept complaining that it MAY have included TW init - which it didn't.
So, that is my rant.
I will continue to release Roms, Themes, whatever you decide to call them - they just won't be posted on XDA for a while, or ever..

Sorry to see it came to this man since I think you have provided some really useful stuff. Sad how people feel the need to troll and criticize things needlessly but I will continue to follow you else where.

Woahhh... Wait, what happened.? I got back within the hour from being with family on Christmas.. More people trolling & flaming people? Didn't we just have a town hall meeting?

Yeah but some people just don't appreciate the hard work of you guys. All they do is come here and complain over little insignificant things because they apparently font get enough attention at home. I don't blame heathen at all for dumping this place. Good thing I can still use his stuff on tw forums.
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I am new to this forum and I was lucky enough to grab your Nexus clone for the Vibrant. I absolutely love this rom. That is all.

Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?

masr1979 said:
Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
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I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.

jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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bosslabs said:
Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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Indeed we do!

most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else

kboater said:
most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
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Agreed....I for one respect all the hardworking developers (and other people who take out the time to post something that others benefit from) and really dislikedislike those who try to mess it up for everyone because they have nothing better to do...
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jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Post them other than here on xda...
Pm them to people, or at TW's site. You or the other devs should be treated this way.
Sent from the helm of the vibrant Galaxy S!

jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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I know I am really enjoying your latest rom. Out of all the roms available yours is the one I am using.

gotta say, i've never flashed one of your roms, but don't stopping making them available.
some people are douches and don't deserve what the community does for them.
what have they done?
just keep on keepin on. if for no other reason than you are, i'm sure, learning a bunch of cool **** and having fun.

Been stuck at 1.1 for a while...

It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?

thebeardedchild said:
It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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Dual coreeeeeee bro! Haha jk. Im sure Moto just doesn't want us having fun.
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!

blackalice said:
2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.

bilbert said:
Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.

BravoMotorola said:
Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement

k4zyn said:
You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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paravorheim said:
I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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Really, I've never seen such a forum where no matter what the topic, everyone wastes time bickering about terminology, or rules or blah.
im trying to get people thinking about possible ways to break past this 1.1 barrier. Or to decide right now if its even possible!
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I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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I don't see why not. The XOOM can do it. But im sure Moto put up some road blocks.
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crossix said:
I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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Yeah you're post isn't contributing well to this apparently poor community either. Like I said, if you haven't anything productive to say, gtfo. There's more to be done than to just wait for devs to magically do it. Us lowly non devs can still look into what can be done. What do you suggest we do in these forums if not to promote discussion of enhancements to our phone?
The point of this thread is to sort of take the pressure off the devs to figure it all out on their own.
If you're gonna wastes everyones time, we'd like you to kindly take your whining back to the aria forum or something..
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Whining stops now.
If you want to discuss getting a bounty together for overclocking beyond 1.1Ghz, by all means continue to do so.
Otherwise, this thread will be closed.

Heh hopefully if a mod says what I've been harping this whole time it sticks. Well, anyone think a bounty for this is worth it? Honestly, other dual core phones are almost to 2.0. If we're fast at 1.1 can you imagine more? I'm never content with where I'm at so I say we get this phone as high as it can.
That being said, one concern is that anything higher than 1.1 is physically impossible no matter how you cut it. Like I said other dual cores are oc'd high, but who knows how this thing is different!
The real question before bounty talks can be made is: can we determine if its possible? Were other phones in this situation?
I remember when faux initially discussed it, he made it sound like it was some simple code holding it back but I dunno really..
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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Those are good points. And yeah I probably worded that wrong, with the "simple line of code" thing, because now that you mention it that sounds TOO simple lol. I can't really remember what he said, but at the time it seemed less serious, as in 'the next version of my kernel would bypass it', ya know what I mean? But now here we are, still at 1.1. However, at the same time, the only guy really working on getting higher than 1.1 had halted his kernel progress to work on CM7, so I dunno. Perhaps a bounty would be good to get more devs in to take a look at it and see what to do.
And yeah it's a little reassuring to know that the Xoom did it, with essentially the same processor. Does anyone know if it had the same type of roadblock associated with it, where they couldn't OC much higher for a time?

From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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Yeah I'd be willing to donate as well, of course (a given, as I seem to be worrying about this too much anyways ).
I've wondered if, since faux announced that "barrier", if either him or anyone else has even attempted to look at what causes it. I'm not saying 'those lazy bastards!!!11!' or anything, but if that's the case I'd almost feel better since that explains why it hasn't been done yet. Otherwise, the longer they HAVE looked at it with no avail, the more likely it is we're stuck at 1.1
Maybe tinkering will help...I honestly thought it would help while they developed it in the first place, since like you said earlier, it seems like it's not a hardware thing so a new ROM could have helped...

Someone with coding knowledge should contact whoever made the xoom overclock.
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Remember that a phone is essentially a small computer. It's not just the CPU which is involved. Memory timings, voltages, and cooling all play a huge part in OC'ing a CPU. This may be where the problem lies. If the phone requires memory timings which make it extremely unstable/unuseable at an OC higher than 1.1GHz, then it will always be a no go, no matter how you look at it. Similarily, if you have to step up the voltage, you induce more heat, and there is no active cooling in a phone.
In essence, there are many reasons why the OC may have stopped at 1.1GHz. It seems people really need to understand overclocking overall before commenting on what is and is not possible.
There is also the chance that nobody has really looked at this as important because all the work has gone into creating CM7, etc. I would say OC'ing past 1.1GHz is low on the totem pole for the few devs who are capable of doing it.

kholk claims to be releasing a 1.2 kernal today, I believe lt to be for testing to make sure it works but we shall see.
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Bootloader was too late

Hi
Does anyone else think that the bootloader release is just a bit too late. All our great devs have left just before it was released. Reason I say this is because the unlock has been around for a week and all I have seen is DooM making kernels. Z hasn't been seen and as for the others well. They moved on. Same for all our better cooks. What are other peoples views on this.
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Nope, to me, I consider it as an exclusive treat for the loyal X10 users.
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I agree, I havent even bothered unlocking mine as the old method is fine until something else worthwhile is released. I doubt we will get anything we dont already have.
Perhaps an updated kernel eventually but i cant see anything useful for me.
The X10 has got old fast, there are so many better phones out there now. Ive never been that happy with the x10. The features I find it has arent overly great. Its huge 8mp camera blows compared to other phones. Far to slow and annoying to focus. I use to use it alot when I first got it but dont ever touch it now.
I doubt the devs will be able to squeez much more out of there roms.

i want to see a rom thats as full to aosp as possible likegoogle version of android and then ill do mine

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Does anyone else think that the bootloader release is just a bit too late. All our great devs have left just before it was released. Reason I say this is because the unlock has been around for a week and all I have seen is DooM making kernels. Z hasn't been seen and as for the others well. They moved on. Same for all our better cooks. What are other peoples views on this.
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i think some people expect too much from the bootloader unlock.
The bootloader bypass gave us custom kernels and was a big step.
The bootloader unlock doesnt really give us much extra in addition to the bootloader bypass apart from a quicker startup time. Those people who just think bootloader unlock automatically gives us the ability to do 16m colours or proper multitouch are simply ill informed as to how this stuff works.

brent0r said:
I agree, I havent even bothered unlocking mine as the old method is fine until something else worthwhile is released. I doubt we will get anything we dont already have.
Perhaps an updated kernel eventually but i cant see anything useful for me.
The X10 has got old fast, there are so many better phones out there now. Ive never been that happy with the x10. The features I find it has arent overly great. Its huge 8mp camera blows compared to other phones. Far to slow and annoying to focus. I use to use it alot when I first got it but dont ever touch it now.
I doubt the devs will be able to squeez much more out of there roms.
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You guys got a point and I admit I had to agree with you. We may have not seen anything worthwhile for now, but I am very positive that there will be, if not many, one whole new thing we havent seen for our X10.
I'm not sure what happened to z, but everyone has their own life. Just hope that he don't leave us just like that.
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who knows what z has got cooking..
he always seems to pop out at times like these when hope and morale is down and be like "surprise I made the best thing ever"
lol

scoobysnacks said:
who knows what z has got cooking..
he always seems to pop out at times like these when hope and morale is down and be like "surprise I made the best thing ever"
lol
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I doubt he really is cooking something lol
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Didn't Z's phone break?? Anyway I think maybe now that bootloader is unlocked some old dev's might blow the dust off their x10's and come back even maybe part time lol you never know what could happen
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X10 will get official CM support and jerpelea is working on his CM rom and im sure zdzihu will comeback with something soon. Its not at all to late!
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I saw this same thing on MoDaCo.
I look at it this way:
If you have unlocked your bootloader, then you don't have to worry about losing xrec when you flash a faulty ROM/kernel. Since it's built right in, it's there to stay. That way you don't have to deal with going back to stock, rooting, and restoring backup from there.
Made testing things a bit easier, if anything.
Let's all support our devs in slow times. And if at all else, come together as a community, learn to cook, mod, dev, and things will pick up.
And as always: this is done for free* by regular, everyday, normal people such as yourselves that do this in their free time. I'm grateful for that.
*only exception is ad clicking to get to WB files via adf.ly due to his financial contraints (but it's time paid, not money)

Wolfbreak said:
X10 will get official CM support and jerpelea is working on his CM rom and im sure zdzihu will comeback with something soon. Its not at all to late!
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whats the chances of youmaking a rom thats similar to google version

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i want to see a rom thats as full to aosp as possible likegoogle version of android and then ill do mine
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I am the process of making a fully aosp rom from source as we speak. Just finishing the download of the sources and then onto the build. Don't know if it will go well but I am using the tutorial videos by Ubuntu. The best Linux distro around. Maybe a week or two and I will release a fully aosp rom. Also I have to go e my thanks to achotjan for teaching me a few things. .
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Blackwatch89 said:
I am the process of making a fully aosp rom from source as we speak. Just finishing the download of the sources and then onto the build. Don't know if it will go well but I am using the tutorial videos by Ubuntu. The best Linux distro around. Maybe a week or two and I will release a fully aosp rom. Also I have to go e my thanks to achotjan for teaching me a few things. .
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Nice just the opposite of what achotjan does...
sammyjc89=Blackwatch89?
Why?
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What i need is working Dual touch but i will wait for it...

Hope it will be Multitouch or something like Kernel 2.6.32. MT if it's not hardware problem....

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...Ubuntu. The best Linux distro around...
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Welcome to the world of Linux my friend, there's no need keep saying the same thing again, and again. Just keep up the good work!
@DikeJ, FreeXperia is currently working on kernel 2.6.32 for a long time now(since before the bootloader was unlocked). About MT, search around the forums, AFAIK, Z said X10's digitizer supports MT, it's just that the phone is released on Android 1.6, which don't support MT.

@Hzu, good to hear. I know about creating 2.6.32, but about MT didn't heard anything before - very good info. So it's just a time to reborn again our X10's .
BTW - I will create topic on Devs forum - it will be gaming and the fastest ROM for X10 - I have hope . Stay tuned, after 21st .

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@Hzu, good to hear. I know about creating 2.6.32, but about MT didn't heard anything before - very good info. So it's just a time to reborn again our X10's .
BTW - I will create topic on Devs forum - it will be gaming and the fastest ROM for X10 - I have hope . Stay tuned, after 21st .
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Sounds cool and promising! Hope to hear from you soon!

Yes its to late for me. next week ill buy sgs2. Thingking of selling my x10 (so-o1b) ... sell or paperweight?
sent from my stock gb not rooted and no add ons.

sahibunlimited said:
Nice just the opposite of what achotjan does...
sammyjc89=Blackwatch89?
Why?
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What i need is working Dual touch but i will wait for it...
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Security perposes. Someone tried hacking one of my account but my software caught them. Shame I couldn't find them though. Anyways also I am a big fan of the 1st battalion blackwatch regiment. One of the hardest army regiments in the UK. Hey, gotta love the Scottish man.
-Pilot-
Please don't take that the wrong way. I think you lot are nuts but sound as f**k. Got a few mates from that regiment and they are hard as nails. Scary too
Anyways also it goes with my lifestyle too. I don't sleep due to health issues so I am a bit nocturnal you could say but I'm always on the lookout. Black-night, Watch-eyes open and 89 my yr of birth. Hope that helps you understand dude.
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