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What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world...

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world, no mather the price or release date!! Which phone would it be??
For me- Im currently looking at Toshiba TG03 or Toshiba K02 or NOKIA N900 !!!
And Im looking at selling my Touch HD for about 400-440 dollars , is that a good price, or should I ask more(phone is in good condition, screen has always had a screen protector, has a dent in uper right corner of phone(fell from a meter high), and VOL UP button doesnt work properly(plastic falling of)), a custom rom installed from xda-devs much faster than original!

i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?

I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made

ibsa03 said:
i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?
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I was also looking at a Leo - but dont you think that Winmo deserves something more powerfull?? and Im getting really bored of Windows mobile as OS!!! I want to have in my pocket a Multimedia Player with Wifi, Calling and SMS capabilitirs!!
Fallen Spartan said:
I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made
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I agree on that no xda support for both Toshibas, But Nokia just aint that full of bugs, and they give out firmware updates which fix problems! + n900 is running Maemo 5 (something interesting ) !!! by the way -- is it true that N900 can only be used with both hands?? (no portrait mode)

Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.

Sasimi said:
Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.
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Nice Idea!!
currently Im thinking to sell my HD for about 400-500USD and buy a Nokia E63 (about 260USD)

Hands down, I would go for one of these......no question, no competition!
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I'm looking at a "Leo" at the moment as my HD has a few problems..., though there seems to be a few issues with it at the moment, alot just seem to be firmware related and could be fixed with an official update from HTC, though there seems to be problems with the camera...??, hmm.... not sure, for me the wvga screen format is where it should be at !!, and that processor seems like it's more than capable, as well as a decent amount of RAM, there just needs to be more developers get behind WM, to combat the Iphone....., It's more about net surfing organizers calenders/ alarms.....etc for me, but it would be nice to have some sweet looking games similar to the Iphones, other than that I'm going to have to say the Iphone 3GS, only because of the OS, the phone is clearly not as good as some of HTC's finest...eg. HD2 (LEO), but the wealth of applications available is staggering, but...., no true multitasking..., still no decent camera, and I'm hearing people complain about call quality...?, and having to sync everything back to Itunes is going to **** me off !! ??.....I'm traditionally a PC guy, but am buying a Macbook pro early 2010 some time, specifically for using a music program "Logic", so I'm going to have to get used to the whole Itunes thing, and I spose it may sync a lil better, (though I've seen software available that will sync a WM device with apples OS with ease), So......, I spose if everything is rocksolid with the LEO, then the LEO.....Hmmm, other than that....IPhone 3GS, I can see people getting all worked up at the mere suggestion of an Iphone, but as far as the OS goes I think it's alot smoother, and they seem more established, lets hope the next cple of years see microsoft get right in there as well !!

For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.

Moandal said:
For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.
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yes, still so many of my favorite programs require stylus, sometimes I just prefer to use it !!

I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...

Bodisson said:
I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...
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You mean you dont like capacitive screen (leo has capacitive) all other HTC WM phones have resistive
I sold My HD yesterday at midnight for about 500USD (converted from LVL) Hd is still with me, cause I will install it n stuff n give it away at weekend!

well i just got my HD..and i love it (and it costs me much of my precious time )
maybe i would trade it for a Motorola Milestone (Droid)..i hope it didn't hear that ^^

HD2 to have windows phone 7 series

Forward to 6:51:30 and pay close attention to the her hand raised to her Ear @ 6:51:38 and Pause....that bak of the HTC HD2 !!!!!!
They have masked the front of the phone with CGI...LoL
HTC HD2 .....YEP !!! there it is !!!
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224

surely looks like one... and it's easier to modify the look of an existing phone with effects than building a whole new device for the express reason to make an advertisement.
But even admitting that WAS indeed a CG'ed HD2, how would it confirm we're getting a WinMo7 update?

You are SOOO RIGHT!!!
I took a screen shot of it!
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It could simply mean that they weren't expecting people to watch the video frame by frame! I can't really see that this means we're getting Winmo 7 for the HD2...

monty_rm said:
It could simply mean that they weren't expecting people to watch the video frame by frame! I can't really see that this means we're getting Winmo 7 for the HD2...
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you are right it is ot a prove

monty_rm said:
It could simply mean that they weren't expecting people to watch the video frame by frame! I can't really see that this means we're getting Winmo 7 for the HD2...
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Seen as there are no phones released for WP7 they had to use some sort of prop for the video!

from the still of the video, I'd say it's either not an HD2 (you can guess only from camera lens and leds), or they went so far as to model it to look thicker and with "rounder" edges.
Still, the fact that they did so much to camouflage it being an HD2 (admitting it actually is), if nothing else, proves that they didn't want to give too many hopes about hd2 getting WM7,otherwise it would have been a good idea to take the most succesful WM device on the market right now and put it in a WM7 video...

Sure, but I have no doubt that WM7 will be running on the HD2 soon after release (if not before.) It uses a newer version of the Windows CE core, so it isn't that inconceivable that it will find its way to the HD2, one way or another. Not sure what all the fuss is about, really. After seeing the videos, the interface is not that great. It is better than 6.5, but Microsoft has NEVER been known for its design strength or esthetic sense. Sure, the guy who was a designer for Nike is responsible for it, but how much do tennis shoes and cellular phone UI's have in common?
I hate the fact that MS has decided to take the position that they have with regard to the UI, but if history shows us anything, this "limit" will mean nothing. Any barrier they put up will eventually be crossed by someone.
I still think that Sense is the best mobile UI experience, and I really like it on the HD2. Microsoft has publicly stated that they will continue development on WM 6.5, so I hope that it gets updated, along with Sense, to preserve what is special about the HD2 user experience. It's just cool, and it does everything I needed my phone to do... even more so with custom ROMs.

vardig said:
Forward to 6:51:30 and pay close attention to the her hand raised to her Ear @ 6:51:38 and Pause....that bak of the HTC HD2 !!!!!!
They have masked the front of the phone with CGI...LoL
HTC HD2 .....YEP !!! there it is !!!
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224
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Looks like an iPhone to me

A mocked up photo no more means an upgrade for the HD2 than a mocked up photo of a car on the moon means that it is capable of space flight!
Leaks aside, I can't see HTC rushing to provide an upgrade for a device that will be nudging a year old come the time WM7 hits the market. It's rather more likely that MS are teeing up device manufacturers for the next generation of phones. Any link to the HD2, even tenuous ones like the phone in the video, may be because the HD2 is one of very few devices capable of running their alpha/proof of concept.
As to whether I actually want the upgrade...looks OK-ish but seems to be moving too far towards the 'I won't like it if it's too hard and needs me to think for myself' brigade of Apple-loving iWhingers for my tastes. Of course this is all still essentially speculation.

lucky we got htc sence because the OS 7 interface looks ugly

if wm7 doesnot support other ui ,then all the years of development done by htc untill reaching htc sense 2.5 will be threw to rubbish as all future htc phones will not have htc sense , may be hd2 is the last device to use sense 2.5 in htc windows product line ,

hoss_n2 said:
if wm7 doesnot support other ui ,then all the years of development done by htc untill reaching htc sense 2.5 will be threw to rubbish as all future htc phones will not have htc sense , may be hd2 is the last device to use sense 2.5 in htc windows product line ,
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there is always potential for windows 6.7 upgrade for future devices

There actually will be concurrent and continued development of WM 6.5, per Microsoft's direct statements, and Sense UI will continue to be used in other platforms, most notably, Android, so Sense is safe for the foreseeable future. I don't think HTC will scrap it, nor should they do so.
I love the Sense UI, and I wish that MS would adopt it as the stock UI in WM7, but they never asked me.
Seriously, can you imagine how it could be improved if it wasn't just a skin, but actually a part of the OS itself?

Sorry, but the Xperia X1 has been also in WM6.5-promos and it has never got an update...

donalgodon said:
Sure, the guy who was a designer for Nike is responsible for it, but how much do tennis shoes and cellular phone UI's have in common?
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I found that odd as well. Nike? What's that got to do with user interfaces??
WP7 just barely works during some of the video presentations I've seen today. In a couple of the videos, the presenter had to go back to the home panel a few times and try again or just continue on to the next feature.
It might be December before it comes out and then most of you guys will be lusting after the HD3.

Isn't HTC going to have a press event tomorrow at MWC? Maybe someone will ask a question on whether or not the HD2 will receive an upgrade to WP7?

HD2 Running WP7
I hope we can have this OS soon...
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395

This looks fake to me...

I just hope it's not fake...

[Q] Upgrade from HD2 to ?

I just want to get a few opinions from people on XDA.
This year I will eventually upgrade my phone to something else.
I'm looking for a few features:
1. Dual Core Processor.
2. Front Facing Camera
3. Same Size Screen s HD2 or larger
4. Ample amount of Ram
5. Fast Mobile Internet
I passed on the T-Mobile G2X because of the screen size.
Now I'm waiting for the HTC Sensation and the Samsung Galaxy SII.
My HD2 has Android on it.
I want a native Android phone so I can flash whatever operating system on it
and not miss any calls or text.
The HD2 is a very fun phone IMO.
So what new phone will everyone get this year?

htc sensation. plus many of the devs already said they are getting it as well.

Definitely HTC Sensation.
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Just look at it.

Galaxy s 2. I'm not willing to wait on devs to unlock the bootloader of the sensation, seeing as how the sony x10 took about a year? And the moto atrix is still a work in progress, and likely by the time the sensation is unlocked, like every other locked bootloader phone, a new "innovational" device would've come out already. Nor am I merciful enough to spare a flagship for its less than decent amount of space. Flagships should have atleast 8 gb space nowadays.

lozonw said:
...... I want a native Android phone so I can flash whatever operating system on it .....
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I dont think any other phone (Sensation and SGS II) can be flashed with any other OS (cross platform like HD2).
HD2 is an exception....
But, if you want to have an hackable device, you should go for HTC Sensation
Cheers

My plan is to upgrade in July, get the sensation, sell it brand new boxed etc, use the money and my hd2 in the meanwhile and put whatever extra moneys towards the evo 3d when that drops.

Sorry that sentence is misleading. I would have the HD2 to fulfill my flashaholic appetite.
The new phone will be my everyday driver.
I like the look and design of the Sensation.
But the screen and memory/ storage of the SGSII is tempting.
Thanks for all the responces.
silverwind said:
I dont think any other phone (Sensation and SGS II) can be flashed with any other OS (cross platform like HD2).
HD2 is an exception....
But, if you want to have an hackable device, you should go for HTC Sensation
Cheers
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Sent from my HD2 phazer!

I have had my HD2 for well over a year, almost going on to two, and still till today I get some of the best quadrant scores... Even when compared to phones that are only getting launched now.
Multi core is the next big thing along with 3d graphics for our little devices, but unfortunately they are useless if the OS is not developed around them. Same goes with having a 64bit CPU, and running a 32bit OS.... You guys get the point.
For me my HD2 is still going to stay in my pocket, until a true dual core android OS is launched. The one and only reason I would change, and probably get the Samsung GS2, is because of the lower battery drain the AMOLED screen has, and the amount of RAM it comes with.
The wait shouldn't be too long, Google has already announced ice cream sandwich... Hopefully by then the Sensation will have been rooted, which also be my next choice in phones.

When I saw the review on youtube of the Samsung Galaxy S2 I have been really turned on!

how aboute the LG Speed 2x ?
Think i read somewhere ( forgot where ) the the battery lasts day's

You have 2 choices. Either Samsung Galaxy S 2, or the HTC Sensation. If you are looking forward for a hackable cellphone with a solid build I definitely recommend you the HTC Sensation. I believe HTC is the best cellphone company right now!

we might have to change our minds guys
signed bootloader, not locked. which means hacking is out the window.
the same method that is used on the Incredible 2/S and what Motorola uses.
link
very disappointing in deed.

I'm not too conserned about the signed bootloader.
I don't really plan on flashing or rooting my next device.
I will keep my HD2 for my flashing needs.
Not saying if it does get unlocked I wont start flashing it.
Has anyone had a chance to compare the screens of the SGSII and the Sensation side by side yet?
songokussm said:
we might have to change our minds guys
signed bootloader, not locked. which means hacking is out the window.
the same method that is used on the Incredible 2/S and what Motorola uses.
link
very disappointing in deed.
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Sent from my HD2 phazer!

Don't suppose you use titanium backup or any other apps that need root. :3

No. I don't plan on doing anything but text, make phone calls, browse the internet, and use the music/video player.
It lets me experiment with roms on the HD2 and not miss any important calls or text.
Which I do now when I'm flashing and playing around with new roms.
I just want something wont choke or freeze.
Kailkti said:
Don't suppose you use titanium backup or any other apps that need root. :3
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Sent from my HD2 phazer!

Waiting for the Samsung Galaxy S II, seems like a great phone with a great screen.

lozonw said:
No. I don't plan on doing anything but text, make phone calls, browse the internet, and use the music/video player.
It lets me experiment with roms on the HD2 and not miss any important calls or text.
Which I do now when I'm flashing and playing around with new roms.
I just want something wont choke or freeze.
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Well if all you want is such, both phones fit your criteria, heck any phone does lawl.
Anyways, well as you said before, the galaxy s 2 has more storage, henc more space for music/videos, and if you store only a little, well, you won't need an sd card anymore right? The way I see it right now, if the galaxy s 2 can play 1080p youtube videos, then its processor is the king of this year. Well until the iPhone 5 comes out with that sexy powerVr sgx543.

windows phone 7 Os on SGS2

Hi
There are rumours floating around that Samsung is in the process of putting wp7 on SGS2 ( maybe a variant of it)
So was wondering if they did bring out one would it be possible to port wp7 onto out SGS2 sinse it would be the same hardware.
I would like to dual boot if possible( like the HTC HD2 ).. what do you guys think ?
cnet link Here

I've tried WP7 on both native and non-native devices and believe me, it works better on native devices, just like Android does.
Besides, it's fugly and too new to be even considered as an alternative to Android. Also, if it's a non-native device then you could have issues with registering it to its full capabilities.
And finally, I don't believe a word of that article. Sounds to me like someone's come out from under a bridge, looking for snacks.

* DANG DoUBLE POST * Didnt see the other post#
ANyways
I kinda like WP7 as I have HTC HD7 and I just love the facebook , twitter and email on my HD7, I still think android is not that good for emails
The only reason I love android more is cause of the apps, and googlemaps and the great old flash junkie in me which make me want android.
But yeah If some DEV does port it, it would be great ......
Oh I might be a happy bunny once I install mango as it seems to iron out some of the few problems currently WP7 user's have

I'd be interested in doing this. I would like to get on the development scene... Funny, I was thinking this the other day!
First, I have to build a basic C# app... Damn you High-School for taking my time!

Since I tried out Launcher 7 as my launcher and UberMusic as my music player, I've been very interested in having a proper WindowsPhone. If the clones are this good, how good should the original OS be?
It's looking very likely that I will be owning a WP7 device, if they open up the system. If I have to jailbreak to get basic things done like on iPhone, it's not even an option.

johncmolyneux said:
Sounds to me like someone's come out from under a bridge, looking for snacks.
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HA!
I would love to dual-boot this thing.

aydc said:
If the clones are this good, how good should the original OS be?.
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I actually have a HTC HD7 and windows phone 7 is really good but cause its new is still few things to iron out and not much apps.
I will actually go for Nokia windows phone 7 are out as Nokia does the best hardware and I kinda love WP7 as well

johncmolyneux said:
Besides, it's fugly and too new to be even considered as an alternative to Android.
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[email protected] part.

i wouldnt consider anything micro$oft good on my sgs2. nice idea and good luck to anyone that trys. i would peronally prefer to see the effort put into the excellent development on Android for this phone. just my pennies worth.

Sorry to open the grave but..
Sorry to open the grave but.. is there an custom rom, which looks like windows phone 7?
If not, it is impossible to create one, looking like it?
Greetings

N4wuko said:
Sorry to open the grave but.. is there an custom rom, which looks like windows phone 7?
If not, it is impossible to create one, looking like it?
Greetings
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launcher 7 is as good as your going to get mate.

Yeah, I tested it already.
But, i am looking for something more integrated.
For a real theme, someone know something like that?

WP7 is better than android.

666fff said:
WP7 is better than android.
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I smell troll sh**
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

I'm wanting to try the same! So a full WP7 Rom for SGS2 Android deviecs!

I'm using launcher 7 atm
Like it a lot
Just wondering if we will have full rom for sgs2
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simonjcruse said:
i wouldnt consider anything micro$oft good on my sgs2. nice idea and good luck to anyone that trys. i would peronally prefer to see the effort put into the excellent development on Android for this phone. just my pennies worth.
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WP7 is actually pretty good. Stop being an Android fanboy.

It would be real treasure if Samsung gave us option to change our OS to Android or WP7 anytime we like...

This is basically the GS2 with WP7, minus the dual core processor.
Samsung Focus S - Pretty nice looking phone, probably one of the best of the new Mango phones.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I937OKAATT
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I love android on SGS2, it will be great for the one who's looking to dual boot !
I dont know how W7 is good at mails ? May be cos I dnt like Windows Mobile OS anymore
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2

--CyanogenMod 9 Discussion Thread--

Hi!
I thought I would create a CyanogenMod 9 discussion thread because I know some of us wants it soon
So this thread could discuss anything from features to wallpapers. Anything really I guess.
It can be really nice to talk about it and because I love CyanogenMod I would love to discuss this with some people
Just remember to keep the thread clean

ondrikcz said:
hello And cyanogenmod 9 for Desire HD??
thanks
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Of course! Therefore I posted it in the desire HD forums
I would like more features on the camera not just the stocks!

Anyone know the current status of cm9 ill be honest I think the development here will blow cm9 out the water!
Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings

arknailed7754 said:
Anyone know the current status of cm9 ill be honest I think the development here will blow cm9 out the water!
Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings
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I don't know! All I know is that they have realesed it for some devices and it's soon to be here. Haven't checked github...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

It just seems strange for them that they're taking so long... No doubt they'll release one of the best roms when it's finished. Until then I'm keeping my eye at Virtuous. ^^
Btw, is it just me or have you guys also noticed devs are slowly leaving the DHD behind? Seems that they're moving on to the Sensation family, and the soon to be released One series are only going to add up to that I suppose. Sad.

What happened to CM8?..

Burning_aces said:
What happened to CM8?..
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CM8 = Honeycomb , source wasn't released until ICS source dropped.

tobmav said:
It just seems strange for them that they're taking so long... No doubt they'll release one of the best roms when it's finished. Until then I'm keeping my eye at Virtuous. ^^
Btw, is it just me or have you guys also noticed devs are slowly leaving the DHD behind? Seems that they're moving on to the Sensation family, and the soon to be released One series are only going to add up to that I suppose. Sad.
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They will definitely have the best rom! I mean they have done things much more efficient this time.
Well it's natural for devs to move on to newer devices, unfortunately it's sad for us

when does come the first nightly for desire hd?

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im still under no illusion that the sensation is crap,i test run the xe and the xl..i see no difference,but im no gamer,they have more roms due to newer device but i had no urge to upgrade to either as i normally do,the ville i will due to it looks nice,ics is onboard and sense 4..if it didnt that already i probably wouldnt get it?
i dont think devs are leaving,its just natural progression i think..this forum compared to the desire for example i used to use...is quite stressful..i dont know why,even i get hacked off.with myself and others. shame is..the desire hd is a quality phone,its reliable...looks nice.
my next roms will be ics when its complete and ics with sense 4..ill try out sense 3.6 with ics but cant see me warming to it..
as for cm9 unless it has bells and whistles i probably wont care when it arrives..

CM always has bells & whistles. Its like specifying all the optional extras when buying a car.
I'm waiting for the rumored HTC Zeta. 2.5Ghz Quadcore. That + CM9/10 will last a few years, just like the DHD has & will continue to do.

andyharney said:
CM always has bells & whistles. Its like specifying all the optional extras when buying a car.
I'm waiting for the rumored HTC Zeta. 2.5Ghz Quadcore. That + CM9/10 will last a few years, just like the DHD has & will continue to do.
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Yeah the DHD has taken its stand! It is a good phone for sure and since google always is trying to make their rom lightweight I think the DHD can last for long!
But as soon as I get the money I'm switching to a Google i.e galaxy nexus. I hate that htc is not enabling all of the features that are out there!

Not heard of zeta....eta release?
Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings

arknailed7754 said:
Not heard of zeta....eta release?
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http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_zeta-4333.php
Hell of a phone!
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

looks a bit brickish?
Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings

It is a bit "square", but as you can tell from the homescreen I posted, I much prefer function over style.
From its rumoured specs, 2.5Ghz Quadcore, 32GB storage, 1GB RAM, WXGA (1280x720) display. It would be more than capable of holding it's own in a smartphone market that progresses very quickly. Perfect for a handset that's worth keeping for a few years (i.e DHD) & perfect for CM9/10 & 11

the specs do look good,ill probably still go on and get the ville or endeavour...more the ville though,in a way I hope some development release an asop. to run on these devices just in case sense 4 hasn't really went far...I'm liking asop roms more and more recently,rcmix 4.0 is a great rom but drains my battery up way to quick, now I'm running absolution which is giving me roughly a day and a half..it is undervolted by preference..not sure if that makes a massive difference though lol
the zeta as you said looks quality,just design wise...think its a case of looking at it in reality..pictures don't give justice on occasions
Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings

The image on gsmarena doesn't do it much justice I admit.
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This gives a better appreciation of the shape.
CyanogenMod is such a versatile ROM, you can theme it to your hearts content or leave it bare. Underclock it to get the best battery life or overclock it to cook food off of.
IMO CM9 will really expand upon the best core features of ICS, the future of android is bright.

It's a fake foto 'cause as we all know ACS needs only 3 buttons. I don't think such a powerfull phone will be released with 2.3.x Android. So it's a fake
Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using XDA App

Anyone seen?
http://techrate.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/HTC-One-X.jpg