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Swiping between homepages

Am about to jump into Android (from a HD2 that is driving me up the wall!) and have spent the last week agonizing between the Galaxy S and Desire. I've looked at tons of vids of both and trawled the net and I think it boils down for me to the differences between Sense and Touchwiz.
The only thing that's putting me off Touchwiz is that there doesn't seem to be any way of quickly getting between homepages, other than swiping. On the Desire you pinch and get the overview. Have I missed something with the Galaxy S?

If the UI is the same of Samsung Wave (as they claim) then you should be able to directly jump to the desired home by selecting the related number on top of the screen (you know, those small circles with the number inside...).
I've seen a couple of videos about this for Wave...

I'm the same jumping from an HD2 to Android and was initially concerned of this myself but as mentioned by Jaffe76, providing we can select the page simply by tapping on the page number it then should not be a problem.

Galaxy S can do this! You can change the homescreen by tapping on it's number!
Look for this vid. on youtube:
Samsung Galaxy S - Partie 1 par FrAndroid.com - Android

Nicolopolus said:
The only thing that's putting me off Touchwiz is that there doesn't seem to be any way of quickly getting between homepages, other than swiping. On the Desire you pinch and get the overview. Have I missed something with the Galaxy S?
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I hope this is not the only thing putting you off the phone! However, I can understand that you want to pay for something the suits you completely. Galaxy just seems like a better piece of hardware than the HTC. I don't like HTC very much anyway though (I have no idea why, please don't judge me!), so maybe I am biased.
Personally, I think touchwiz looks pretty awesome (although the older versions were disappointing). As people have already said, you can jump quickly to screens (it seems), and it may even be possible to disable it or replace it with another UI.
I installed Sense on my winmo Samsung phone (Omnia) because the older touchwiz was a bit rubbish, so I can understand preferring it!

Thanks for the opinions and info everyone, and especially for the YouTube link - went into a lot more detail! (shame it was in French tho!).
Think I'm gonna go for it and order the Galaxy S (I could wait for more reviews, but patience was never my strong suit!)

Nicolopolus said:
Think I'm gonna go for it and order the Galaxy S (I could wait for more reviews, but patience was never my strong suit!)
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Tell me about it! I am fighting with myself to hold on until my exams are finished next week, but I want to buy it now!!

Same as both of you hehehe. But since we have until the week of June 7, I figure I would wait until middle next week and see if any other reviews come or if the price changes or if samsung decides to change something or add new phones, etc..
but definitely if nothing occurs I will be getting this phone .
I think Nico that even in the Applications menu you can jump by selecting the number on top.

do you still have ur devices?

Gingerbread 2.3 monday 12/6!!

It was leaked in a blog over at Notion Ink.

Can u post a link
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notionink.wordpress.com/2010/12/04/week-end-special-xi/
- 6th December is another big day for Android and you will find out how fast Notion Ink can work. (Eden is extremely compatible with 2.3)
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Is it??
Let's see ... just for 2 days waiting only

Omg who the hell is still excited about this ****. Gingerbread is going to he such w huge disappointment. All it is going to be is a bunch of bug fixes and very minor features.

true. i havent seen any evidence that this will be worth moving from a 2.2 rom at all. the stock launcher is still 100% balls, so no ones gonna use that over zeam, lp or adw. miui has (IMO) the best pull down menu, you can already get 'fancy' animations (bounce, flips etc etc) in roms.
what exactly will this add that's worth giving a crap about?
if it only came with an accelerated UI and nothing else, that would be huge, as huge as proper (i.e not the official) apps2sd.
so far it looks like it'll have new icons and that's about it. big whoop

At this point, I think Google should just bite the bullet and have a Gingerbread conference, telling us the features and say that it's going to be released some point in the future.
It's lost it's shine now, people are starting to move on from the hype because they are sick of waiting and now it can be nothing other than a disappointment.

As always, don't believe it until you got the OTA yourself. Just because some weirdo on Twitter or anybody else says so doesn't mean anything. And I totally agree with tommo123 and gibosn6594.

I really don't understand what some of you are complaining about. There's never been a Google update that wasn't an improvement over the previous one in terms of performance, features, etc.
If you would like a pretty interface, do it yourself; new icons...again, do it yourself. That's the beauty and point of a dev phone like the N1.
If you want to be told what your phone should look like and act like, join the Cupertino crowd. Nothing wrong with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

ksc6000 said:
Omg who the hell is still excited about this ****. Gingerbread is going to he such w huge disappointment. All it is going to be is a bunch of bug fixes and very minor features.
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Obviously your still interested...Cmon you know you are..
tommo123 said:
true. i havent seen any evidence that this will be worth moving from a 2.2 rom at all. the stock launcher is still 100% balls, so no ones gonna use that over zeam, lp or adw. miui has (IMO) the best pull down menu, you can already get 'fancy' animations (bounce, flips etc etc) in roms.
what exactly will this add that's worth giving a crap about?
if it only came with an accelerated UI and nothing else, that would be huge, as huge as proper (i.e not the official) apps2sd.
so far it looks like it'll have new icons and that's about it. big whoop
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No one has seen anything yet except for a couple of minutes on a recent vid and that didnt show anything as it wasnt supposed too.
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At this point, I think Google should just bite the bullet and have a Gingerbread conference, telling us the features and say that it's going to be released some point in the future.
It's lost it's shine now, people are starting to move on from the hype because they are sick of waiting and now it can be nothing other than a disappointment.
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Lost its shine? Really?.......Really?..... So when it comes out your not going to load it right?
If anything to learn here is those that are first to complain will be first to download and say " I told you this was going to be awesome."

I still think we won't see GB until a sale date for the Nexus S is announced. I have nothing to prove that but it appears to me, from the long wait, that Google is delaying for the S to be ready and then do a simultaneous launch.

I have to agree. I was a lot more excited about this update before I started seeing the leaked videos and screenshots. Granted the 'under-the-hood' changes could be great, but I was really hoping for drastic UI improvements and so far I'm not seeing any. Installing the new Google Reader app reminded me of just how bland the user interface of android apps can be.
Could still be surprised I guess, but overall this doesn't feel like as big an update as previous ones.
I'm also starting to get bored of my Nexus One and looking at what's next and I'm getting really tired of all the manufactures throwing their own skins over out-of-date android builds. Android needs an interface that is slick enough that OEMs are happy with it as is.

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Obviously your still interested...Cmon you know you are..
No one has seen anything yet except for a couple of minutes on a recent vid and that didnt show anything as it wasnt supposed too.
Lost its shine? Really?.......Really?..... So when it comes out your not going to load it right?
If anything to learn here is those that are first to complain will be first to download and say " I told you this was going to be awesome."
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You're missing the point.

I'm definitely not moving over to Gingerbread until MIUI is updated to it. There honestly seems to be no reason to. It doesn't exactly seem all that interesting..
The fact that there will be no more banding in images is a delightful upgrade, but other than that, Gingerbread is a small graphical enhancement update not worth wasting time on. Maybe once more information is revealed I will reconsider~

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You're missing the point.
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What point? That something that hasnt been released or fully leaked to even have a real once over has lost its shine? The fact that this thread exists is solely because it hasnt lost its shine. The fact you posted in here to say its lost its shine shows it hasnt lost its shine. So what point were you making?

I bet CM6.1 > Gingerbread.... imo

xzr3b0rnzx said:
I bet CM6.1 > Gingerbread.... imo
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Yeah but I bet CM 6.2 Gingerbread > 6.1 stable... or Stock Gingerbread
Cyanogen will make it run sweet on the Nexus, IMO.

2gooder said:
I have to agree. I was a lot more excited about this update before I started seeing the leaked videos and screenshots. Granted the 'under-the-hood' changes could be great, but I was really hoping for drastic UI improvements and so far I'm not seeing any. Installing the new Google Reader app reminded me of just how bland the user interface of android apps can be.
Could still be surprised I guess, but overall this doesn't feel like as big an update as previous ones.
I'm also starting to get bored of my Nexus One and looking at what's next and I'm getting really tired of all the manufactures throwing their own skins over out-of-date android builds. Android needs an interface that is slick enough that OEMs are happy with it as is.
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Google did not post a complete changelog yet so noone really knows which new features will come with Gingerbread.
The only thing Google really announced is that there will be some minor cosmetic changes made to the UI, so I really don't understand why so many people are now, as there are only few pictures of Gingerbread leaked, crying about the 'only' minor changes that were made to the UI, although this is just what Google announced...
I myself think that there will be some surprises, I just can't believe that Google would made such a secret about Gingerbread if there were so small changes.
However Google's Android updates actually always were quite useful.

What I don't understand is why it is taking so long to release the update if the changes are alledgedy minor.

New Verizon and the Fascinate...my thoughts!

Ok so i have had the fascinate for a while. I switched to Verizon because they have the best service in my area. I was on ATT with Iphone before.
The phone feels cheap but a great screen
It feels smooth when useing the apps but horribly slow when using the UI itself.
99% of the market is themes and ringtones.
No new games all are ports and old games that I had on the iphone a year ago.
The UI is ugly to me unless I use Launcherpro then it gets Nice. There are no Good scrollable widgets in the market at all. So far without Launcherpro widgets would be pointless!
The GPS lock time is horrible (Yes I know theres a fix coming, which some say realy does nothing)
Ive used some of the roms with kernels in clockwork mod... honestly I see no Improvment compared to Launcherpro... touchwiz sux.
I love the hardware of this phone...except the plastic feel. But coming from a Iphone i can say It just doesnt compare. Push notification apps are rare on android.
I know this is the best option ...only option on Verizon. But I do miss my JAILBROKEN IPHONE. With a jailbroken iphone I was able to do so much more. better theming, skins , even widgets.
Just my thoughts. I expected so much more from Google.

That phone sucks get the dinc
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That phone sucks get the dinc
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^^Lulz....
Please go get Another Iphone

If you don't like it, I saw that the iPhone is on sale, you could probably get a new one. GPS is fixed, just not in an official update, but it most certainly is working. And games will come, it will just take some time. Gingerbread should help significantly, as well as the growth that the Android platform has experienced the past year.
Sent from my StupidFast Voodoo Fascinate

You are completely entitled to your own opinion. I just wish people didn't share them on a development site. Go to cnet or something.
good day.

I'm starting to not like this thing either. As a phone with it's basic functions, it does fine, but dammit, there is an almost TOTAL lack of attention to this thing from the dev community, which tells ME no geeks bought it.
Back when I had my TP2, there was a ton of custom roms, and constant development that made that thing very capable.
I think you can even run Froyo on a TP2 now.
F*ck me this thing sucks.

chopper the dog said:
You are completely entitled to your own opinion. I just wish people didn't share them on a development site. Go to cnet or something.
good day.
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Agreed.........

chronster said:
I'm starting to not like this thing either. As a phone with it's basic functions, it does fine, but dammit, there is an almost TOTAL lack of attention to this thing from the dev community, which tells ME no geeks bought it.
Back when I had my TP2, there was a ton of custom roms, and constant development that made that thing very capable.
I think you can even run Froyo on a TP2 now.
F*ck me this thing sucks.
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there is plenty of development going on for this phone..however its not currently here on xda

Atleast im not the only that feel this way. I thought I was missing something. I played with my friends Incredible .. I liked the UI almost the same as my Launcherpro add on.... but it looked better with a few more options....but it was slower than launcherpro.
As far as Apps well I think its going to be like that Untill Google stops the fragmentation. They should force Manufactures to update All phones in a timely manner atleast for 1 year
Ill give it till January and see if any other options are available. I love GOOGLE but Im not loving Android anymore. I think the thought of openess was a great idea. But Its lacking with developers wanting to make cool apps.
Like I said in January Ill see where Android is at. If its not moving foward in the DEV/MARKET area ill get a windows mobile or Iphone.
Thanks guys!!

Android is the platform that recent surveys have shown will receive the most new development. More so than iPhone/iPad and Windows Phone. I don't think it has to do with fragmentation so much as it takes time to realize where the market is going.
Just 6 months ago, there were only a handful of Android devices out there, and most weren't exactly powerful devices that could do gaming and many other things. Because of that, software companies put their money and time into making games for the iPhone as it could handle games better than the Android phones of the time. Given the lead time in creating a game or some of the complex apps out there, places probably only started on them recently.
Android didn't really take off until this past summer, at least not in a mass market way. There were rumored updates to devices, but no one knew how they would do where the iOS platform had a 3+ year history. Now that Android has taken off, companies are playing catch up.

I just decided to return the phone. Ill wait it out till january and see what is announced.
Just not enough good Applications to warrant being stuck on this OS. If things change maybe ill revisit it again.
Thanks guys and Goodluck.

New Samsung video showing TouchWiz

Skip forward to 2:18 to see what TouchWiz will bring us. Can't wait!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLP3RXkmUQ
Edit: Correction, they start showing off new features earlier. Probably should just watch the whole thing from the start.

Doesn't it start from 1:30 or something? I see new settings panel with new colors. Looks NICE!

Itaintrite said:
Doesn't it start from 1:30 or something? I see new settings panel with new colors. Looks NICE!
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you are right, just watch the whole thing

Not sure if I like the whole colorfulness samsung always brings to TW. I like the sexy black and dark blue of honeycomb.

I'm up in the air on if I want TW or not. it has some nice features, but I'm worried about the overhead that may slow down the tab a bit.

err why does this belong in development ?

caboos3 said:
err why does this belong in development ?
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I was wondering the same thing, but I didn't want to start a huge argument like always happens when threads like this are put in the wrong section. A moderator will move it sooner or later. Until then... I guess we could still discuss it

Because it shows of features of the next update. I was debating if I should have put it under general but I figured if it got under someones skin, they could just report it and a moderator would move it.

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Because it shows of features of the next update. I was debating if I should have put it under general but I figured if it got under someones skin, they could just report it and a moderator would move it.
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What is truly funny (or perhaps sad) is that a new thread started in an incorrect location on an internet forum would actually be enough to "get under someone's skin". Nothing makes me laugh more on these forums that those people.

I agree with the posted that is torn between TW's nice features and its less than appealing color scheme. Overall, I'm looking forward to it though. Will devs here on XDA be able to take TouchWiz and make custom TouchWiz-based themes/ROMs?
Speaking of overhead, I have a quick question that probably doesn't deserve its own thread.
I have tried everything I know to stop auto-run processes with a bunch of apps. Obviously, killing an app is almost pointless, as it comes right back. But I've also used Android Assistant to disable certain apps autorun ability, but it seems to be completely ineffective as they just load anyway.
Some of the worst offenders are Wallpaper Wizardrii, Wefi Connect, and News Republic. Both Wefi and News Republic began running themselves with autorun before I'd ever opened either app.

I actually LIKE the light and fruity color scheme

Can't wait for the release. Hopefully it comes soon.

I'm excited for this as well. It doesn't seem overly intrusive, but that is left to be seen. I sold my Tab for a nice profit after purchasing one at the pre-release in NYC, but I'm hoping to get another shortly. Just looking for the right price.
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Yeah from what I can tell, it looks like its not a totally overhauled and skinned OS, which is refreshing, but rather the stock HC with some actually pleasant looking enhancements (loving the notification area with toggles!). Of course I'll still nandroid before running the update in the event that I don't like it for some reason.
My other concern is that it does sound like the additional functionality updates (USB host, etc) are bundled in with this TouchWiz update, though needless to say its a guarantee that within days the XDA community will have picked it apart and .zip's will be available for those who just want to add the new functionality minus the TouchWiz

shame on you Samsung!

Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.

i hope i wont get decent scratches on my gorilla glas :O
but u should be always know that samsung isnt the fastest in updating phones
when getting my galaxy s1 i got the update after 6 months promising that the update will come blabla..
i wont rely on samsungsupport anymore cous we have great developers bringing out better roms then samsung ever can!!

Qvp said:
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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Totally agree with you...but about the call recording issue try to flash non stock rom...

Qvp said:
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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You must understand that its not just Samsung that controls the roll out of the updates, they have to coordinate with operators around the world to roll out any updates because of so much operator specific **** that comes along with the phones.
Yes, Samsung can do better but name one OEM who has done better? HTC? Sony (Ericsson)? Motorola? Its all the same in Android club, sir. Only if you have a Google AOSP phone, you can rely on fast updates.
Begs a question- All competing platforms are calculated and reserved with updates- Why does Google has to release one major
OS release every 6 months? Why can't they have consolidated single annual update cycles?
Anyway, you are at XDA- the motherlode! Why do you wait for official updates when there are several talented devs bringing you top notch releases before OEMs do. Just root it and forget it!

Qvp said:
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.we all agree
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it. never buy something for what it might become
Having an outdated OS sucks,95% of android devices outthere actually run GB I wouldn't call tht outdated or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.Samsung doesn't give credit so i guess you'll stay with your old phone
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.it seems to bother you if not why inform the world
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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Those are all beta, so not perfect

Ics makes a few tweaks thats all not end of the world so what we have to wait im sorry but the phones is excellent regardless its not like ics will make this phone earth shattingly better it will make stuff all difference in the long run.
I cant wait until they release ics. Because i promise you this we will see this type of thread disappear to be replaced with. "why did samsung release this when it has bugs" or "when do we expect jelly bean" or " "Now we have ics do you think samsung will abandon the note with jellybean"
Im sorry to be negative but the note forum has jsut turned into a whinging forum.
Maybe mods could set up a vent your rant thread as not to over inflate this forum any more than it is
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What does ICS really bring to the table that most note users will really need?
The majority of users are not the ones that frequent XDA. The majority of users
just use the phone as a phone, email & internet device.
The "1%ers" try to squeeze every little bit out of it.
I use around 2400 minutes a month on the phone, 2-300 text messages & around 100-200 emails. No games, no huge amount of data. Maybe 1-2 gig per month.
Personally, I'm holding off on ICS until it's been "official" for a few weeks.
GB is tweaked to the point, at least on my device, that it is fast & stable.
You know ICS will need a few revisions before it is really as stable as GB.
If it wasn't for the "1%ers", I doubt these devices would be as good as they are, but, for the majority of users, I just don't see ICS being that big of a deal.

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Those are all beta, so not perfect
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Hey friedje you're so smart... luck must have sent me here to be enlightened by your ingenious comments.
Let's just review your comments the same way you reviewed mine ok?
1.Never buy something for what it might become-wow! I am really thrilled and honored to see such an amazing sentence, too bad its meaningless. Never buy something for what it might become? *cough* BULL****. An update was supposed to be released by now, an update which is considered to be a cornerstone of android's development, or briefly speaking -a major change to the device.
2.95% of androids run gingerbread, perhaps you're right.. can't tell by the way you pull wisdom out your sleeves but.... galaxy note isn't just a normal android device. If I'm not wrong its Samsung's flagship phone, its pricey.. and promising.
3.That scratch doesn't really bother me... I'm honest. I just wanted to comment on the durability of the gorilla glass, or in fact about the allegedly scratch resistant screen that galaxy note has.
But other than that, nice to see that you blindly stick to your galaxy note, and how certain you are that it is flawless. If I had a company or a business I'd be looking for a worker\customer like you to blindly follow me too.
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sorry I forgot to thank you for pointing out that "Samsung doesn't give credit". Did someone say smart-ass?
peace

OMG not again... just install a custom rom and enjoy ICS. There are a few that are quite stable with S Memo working....

More *****ing and pissing and moaning I see hey? There are LOTS of these threads already so please stop flooding the board with this OVER AND OVER again!!!

Yet another "fkn samsung where's my update" thread... can't you people just wait a month more ? It's just a software update, it's not like your phone is useless without ICS...

Samsung said you will get ICS and you will, Gorilla said the glass is scratch resistant and it is.
So...You are waiting for ICS and you have discovered scratch resistant is not the same as scratch proof.
You seriously need to lighten up.. its a phone dude, not life and death
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Hey friedje you're so smart... luck must have sent me here to be enlightened by your ingenious comments.
Let's just review your comments the same way you reviewed mine ok?
1.Never buy something for what it might become-wow! I am really thrilled and honored to see such an amazing sentence, too bad its meaningless. Never buy something for what it might become? *cough* BULL****. An update was supposed to be released by now, an update which is considered to be a cornerstone of android's development, or briefly speaking -a major change to the device.
2.95% of androids run gingerbread, perhaps you're right.. can't tell by the way you pull wisdom out your sleeves but.... galaxy note isn't just a normal android device. If I'm not wrong its Samsung's flagship phone, its pricey.. and promising.
3.That scratch doesn't really bother me... I'm honest. I just wanted to comment on the durability of the gorilla glass, or in fact about the allegedly scratch resistant screen that galaxy note has.
But other than that, nice to see that you blindly stick to your galaxy note, and how certain you are that it is flawless. If I had a company or a business I'd be looking for a worker\customer like you to blindly follow me too.
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Maybe not flawless, but at least i'm happy with what i bought in december .
So maybe ICS will make it better or maybe not. Maybe tomorrow or
maybe June 30, no need to whine over a top class phone

p51d007 said:
What does ICS really bring to the table that most note users will really need?
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Support for Android 3.x and 4.x apps. DriveMount really cool thing. With DosBox Turbo you can play DOS games with USB or Bluetooth mouse at ICS. And many more 3.x and 4.x great apps...
New many awesome settings, like "Hovering pen icon". It's amazingly cool helping feature, I really like it! Of cause other functions like "Force GPU rendering" and other from Android 4 also very helpful. Windows and transition animation scale settings will make a pleasant view for menus and other animations...
Also ICS is incredibly smooth!
I hope someone will fix Tablet mode for samsung stock ICS roms. AOSP good, but it kills many Note features, like stock camera, hovering pen icon, s planner, s memo and other samsung good things...

you know what? I take it back. both the hostile replies against friedje and the whining about not having ICS.
I was just in a mood to express my opinion after logging in every few weeks to check for an update.
all the best everyone!

yiannisthegreek said:
More *****ing and pissing and moaning I see hey? There are LOTS of these threads already so please stop flooding the board with this OVER AND OVER again!!!
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Yes, what a bunch of cry babies. Nothing except google branded phones get updates for crap. This should be common knowledge for anyone on XDA.
OTOH, CM9 is running FLAWLESSLY for me. I don't care about FM radio and w/e the other missing things is, whoopdeedoo.
And screen protectors must cost as much as a phone the way people don't wish to protect a 600 dollar device. Where is the sanity? Not in this solar system.

hey, chill...
dont you see the OP man'd up and apologised?.. he deserves props for that, not an ongoing diatribe.
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Yes, what a bunch of cry babies. Nothing except google branded phones get updates for crap. This should be common knowledge for anyone on XDA.
OTOH, CM9 is running FLAWLESSLY for me. I don't care about FM radio and w/e the other missing things is, whoopdeedoo.
And screen protectors must cost as much as a phone the way people don't wish to protect a 600 dollar device. Where is the sanity? Not in this solar system.
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Does the wakeup lag get fixed with ICS, that's all I'm bothered to know.

JulyDerek said:
Does the wakeup lag get fixed with ICS, that's all I'm bothered to know.
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It's still there, but it's nowhere near as bad.

I feel like the biggest reason we haven't seen the update is simply incorporating the driver's for the S-Pen and it's related things. Also the Galaxy Note runs at a unique resolution compared to everything else so that will cause some differences. If you've used any of the leaks they're pretty close, but they're still far from what I would consider something that should be released for everyone. I went back to CheckRom for my Note and for GB it runs really good. I was using CM9 which ran great, but I missed having the SPen and related apps as that was part of the reason I got the note. I would love ICS to be released right now, but even with GB the Note is still by far the best phone I've used. I love using my Note with Gingebread and Touchwiz more than using my Galaxy Nexus with 4.0.4