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Why this update took/is taking so long

With all the features missing from Eclair and all the features added by sense I can see why this is taking so long. They had to intergrte many features of 1.6 into 2.1 for us and lay a new version of Sense over it. This seems like a very special build of 2.1. I don't even know if I would officially call it true 2.1 because many of the features are missing/changed from vanilla 2.1 on the N1. This is a hybrid of 1.6, maybe 2.0.1, and 2.1. They(HTC) really did go out of their way to provide us with this build of mish-mash. I am in no way complaining Just wanted to get some feed back as to what others are thinking that have used other releases of Android. I do enjoy what is out now and hope that with the official release canidate some things are improved. I am excited to be working on getting some things together that we are missing from "2.1" that we all want (voice-to-text, live wallpapers, 3D gallery, etc.). Although it does suck that it took HTC soooo long to get this ready and hit the 2.0/2.1 speed bump that was a huge culprit I am glad they took the time. So to that we salute you Mr. takingwaytolongtoreleaseanupdatebutfinallycameoutwithareallystripeddownversionjusttomakeushappycompany!

Well, I've not used other Android versions, but I concur completely that this couldn't have been a simple project for HTC. In fact, that's exactly what I've been saying to all the whiners over on the Verizon Android forum. So I've been on Verizon and HTC's side all this time, but man...could they drag this out any longer????????? Now, you guys had to go and give me a taste for blood by hooking us up with 2.1. Now ya done it!
But you know, I've been in the customer service industry for a really long time (shop foreman at a new car dealership), and I understand very well that some things take longer than you thought they would. But it's amazing how much you can pacify a customer just by making them at least feel like they're "in the loop". Verizon however has stood mum all this time, letting everybody's frustration come to a boil. Throw us a bone for cryin' out loud!
I'm not sure I agree with you though about them skimping out on this build version. Asking the poor little Eris to work like a Nexus 1 with it's relatively adolesent processor and half the internal memory might be setting your expectations a little high. But that's just my opinion, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it.
D Dave

Dangerous Dave said:
I'm not sure I agree with you though about them skimping out on this build version. Asking the poor little Eris to work like a Nexus 1 with it's relatively adolesent processor and half the internal memory might be setting your expectations a little high. But that's just my opinion, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it.
D Dave
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That was not what I was trying to say. I didn't really have any expectations except for a snappier phone.

tdavis42 said:
That was not what I was trying to say. I didn't really have any expectations except for a snappier phone.
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Sorry, I guess I got that from the "So to that we salute you Mr. takingwaytolongtoreleaseanupdatebutfinallycameoutw ithareallystripeddownversionjusttomakeushappycompany!".
My bad Bro.
D Dave

Have you checked you PM's DDave?

tdavis42 said:
Have you checked you PM's DDave?
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I hadn't until just now. I'll hit you back in a PM.
Thanks,
D Dave

Gingerbread’s Screen Off Animation

I found this on Phandroid:
We promised we’d be digging for more information about Gingerbread well ahead of its coming out party, and we’re making steady progress. We initially broke the news on Monday. While most of you remained skeptic thanks to the world’s worst screen grab ever, we expect some of you have come around to trusting us now that the YouTube app we talked about in that post officially launched a few days later. Today, we have a little bit more.
What you see above is what happens in Gingerbread when turning your screen off: a cool effect not unlike what we used to see when turning a TV off back in the tube days. It’s nothing groundbreaking, but it certainly is nice and it’s worthy to note that this is the first time we’ve seen animations of this sort triggered upon hitting the designated screen off button on your phone. Note that no theme for any custom ROM or any version of Android is able to trigger such an animation, leading us to believe that this is – in fact – the real deal.
That’s it for now, but again, we’re always digging for more. Stick with us as we try to get the blueprints of this sweet house laid out before it’s ready to be built.
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What do you guys think about it?

i can dig that screen shut off

Would be great

I've saw a guy who said he had Gingerbread on his phone and it didn't look like that so I'm going to be surprised either way.

I thought gingerbread was meant to be a stock graphic overhaul - it looks the same as Froyo to me? (minus the screen off animation)
But the screen animation looks hot I want!

I hope they manage to do screen orientation animation too.
For the person who start the thread: Coño, otru Asturianu en XDA!!!

Looking great

ahhhh leaked gingerbread stuff.. cant wait

Sounds like good ginger to me my Nexus is ready!

Rumors were that Gingerbread would have look and feel similar to stock Gallery app. This is not even near to that
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

hahaha
the longer gingerbread needs to come the more i be shure my nexus will be
killed by ROM UPDATES arghhh i am going to be a rommer junkey ;.)
PLease give as G with :
Freee custom desktop like making a homepage screen and all is working :_)
3 D if i want it a cube or else to switch from a screen to another
and please biggggggger icons like in OSX ................Leopard zzooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................!
and lot a new gimmicks please
tx Maurix

Sigh, Gingerbread is looking more and more useless by the minute. I'm thinking even 2.3 is kind of an overstatement, how about 2.2.8
Also, people who buy a phone right now may be screwed out of the real update, Honeycomb.

god dam you guys make gingerbread sounds terrible!
It is only a 10 second video you guys it is not gonna show the whole freaking system.

ljbaumer said:
god dam you guys make gingerbread sounds terrible!
It is only a 10 second video you guys it is not gonna show the whole freaking system.
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I agree, I am so disappointed with everyone dishing it so bad... I am excited about Gingerbread, Android picked up the Palm guy so I think the UI will be much nicer, and we are so early in development, that what we are seeing looks just like what we have so I think everyone is talking trash because of that.
I think we will see some nice changes coming

Does anyone else feel teased?

I turn on the tv, Dunkin Donuts commercial about gingerbread stuff. Go for a ride, Dunkin Donuts commercial about gingerbread. Drive a little further down the road, Dunkin Donuts billboard about gingerbread. Gingerbread is everywhere but our phones! Honestly I think their doing it on purpose...
Sent from my EVO's 4G You?........I thought so

Have you seen the list of updates gingerbread includes? A couple of interesting items, but over all, not that big a deal. I'm pretty happy with Froyo.

same, I'm happy with Froyo...Gingerbread isn't that exciting...if we get it, we get it...

SilverStone641 said:
Have you seen the list of updates gingerbread includes? A couple of interesting items, but over all, not that big a deal. I'm pretty happy with Froyo.
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LOL what is that supposed to mean ... ? Should we not welcome updates no matter how big or small they are? People were disappointed with 2.2 because some thought it was a bigger change than it was.
It is what it is and I welcome any and all updates so long as it does something and does something well.
I was a little disappointed as first about the subtle UI changes ... but the black is cool and the green isn't what it was like in some photos. All in all it is for the better so not sure why people are either disappointed or let down.
It may not be huge, but updates and refinements are just that.
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To be honest I haven't looked at a list, nor have I found one that gives everything. But I will admit I'm a fan of the new keyboard, Ive never liked the Android one and always used the HTC one, even on my moment, but the gingerbread one is pretty nice.
Sent from my EVO's 4G You?........I thought so

conqu1stador said:
LOL what is that supposed to mean ... ? Should we not welcome updates no matter how big or small they are? People were disappointed with 2.2 because some thought it was a bigger change than it was.
It is what it is and I welcome any and all updates so long as it does something and does something well.
I was a little disappointed as first about the subtle UI changes ... but the black is cool and the green isn't what it was like in some photos. All in all it is for the better so not sure why people are either disappointed or let down.
It may not be huge, but updates and refinements are just that.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
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Nicely put And I agree.
Sent from my EVO's 4G You?........I thought so

conqu1stador said:
LOL what is that supposed to mean ... ? Should we not welcome updates no matter how big or small they are? People were disappointed with 2.2 because some thought it was a bigger change than it was.
It is what it is and I welcome any and all updates so long as it does something and does something well.
I was a little disappointed as first about the subtle UI changes ... but the black is cool and the green isn't what it was like in some photos. All in all it is for the better so not sure why people are either disappointed or let down.
It may not be huge, but updates and refinements are just that.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
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The subtle UI changes can all be done through mods. as for the rest? not all that exciting.
I guess i'm just confused why people are so worked up about it. when it gets here, it gets here. why make pointless posts asking if you feel teased. no not really.
now, if they were to say, gingerbread will bring a holographic player and they kept delaying the release, then yes, i would feel teased. As it stands, it's not a big, huge update and therefore, i'm not all titillated by the mere mention of "gingerbread"

SilverStone641 said:
The subtle UI changes can all be done through mods. as for the rest? not all that exciting.
I guess i'm just confused why people are so worked up about it. when it gets here, it gets here. why make pointless posts asking if you feel teased. no not really.
now, if they were to say, gingerbread will bring a holographic player and they kept delaying the release, then yes, i would feel teased. As it stands, it's not a big, huge update and therefore, i'm not all titillated by the mere mention of "gingerbread"
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exactly! people act like every little update is like the second coming of CHRIST or something

SilverStone641 said:
The subtle UI changes can all be done through mods. as for the rest? not all that exciting.
I guess i'm just confused why people are so worked up about it. when it gets here, it gets here. why make pointless posts asking if you feel teased. no not really.
now, if they were to say, gingerbread will bring a holographic player and they kept delaying the release, then yes, i would feel teased. As it stands, it's not a big, huge update and therefore, i'm not all titillated by the mere mention of "gingerbread"
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Well I can agree that it may not be as big of a deal as some have made it out to be - maybe that'll be 3.0 - or whatever. Its an update and is supposed to offer additional **** and more refinements. So in that respect I'm pumped.
If an update doesn't offer anything and people are disappointed I understand. But when it does, and someone is let down because it doesn't have what they necessarily want than I can't side with that.
And yes, the UI stuff being able to be replicated by some theme-ish means doesn't mean anything ... it means an advancement in Android UI and people should "sort of" be excited for that. At least I am. Maybe because I've been drinking .. but got dayum.
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Got the keyboard, got some rosie updates. I am happy enough for now.

People don't seem to realize that the extra .1 difference in the version denotes bugfixes and MINOR feature additions (Yes, I know Google is salivating over NFC, and it's a neat technology, but it doesn't apply to people who aren't buying brand new phones, namely Nexus S for now).
As for large, noteworthy upgrades, you should be getting a lot of good stuff in Honeycomb, as it's a new main version. Of course, all we can do, is wait about 6 months for Google to release it to know for sure.

My Rant....Had to do it

This is my first Motorola Android phone as I came from the Evo. But my question is with everybody keep talking about motoblur slowing the phone down...particularly the Atrix...is this a proven fact that motoblur is slowing it down? And I hope I don't come off wrong when I ask that, but I seriously want to know. I used Motoblur and to me it's great. It allows me to resize widgets and add more widgets to the screens, unlike HTC widgets that take up the entire screen. And I also installed Launcherpro Plus which is a great alternative to Motoblur if one so chooses to use it.
I for one was honestly thinking about going to the iPhone, just because I got my wife one and the popularity of it. But damn, that phone is really locked down, it's no way I can switch to that thing. You can't facetime Chat off wifi and a lot more other things. And I have yet to see any type of navigation app that could compete with Google Maps.
But nevertheless, I like the Atrix and everything about it. My Co-workers was amazed at the speed of it and the crispiness of the display. Sure it's no SAMOLED screen but it's way better than the Evo and I assume the Inspire as well. The battery life of the Atrix is what made me keep it over my Evo. And for all the Inspire phone people, the Atrix runs circles around the Inspire without being OC'd. But imagine if the Atrix was overclocked...then what would the Inspire Fan Peeps be saying then...oh I know, it'll be tread entitled, "I returned my Inspire for the Atrix ......"
I think all these threads about people returning the phone is that people see other phones coming out and they need to find a reason to return the Atrix to make themselves feel good. I mean, for every excuse people then posted for returning the phone, is a fix...
Don't like motoblur----Get Launcherpro or ADW Launcher or some other launcher
Lagginess-------Check your apps, maybe go so far as uninstalling them all and reinstalling them one by one to see if lagginess is still present
Battery Life----check what you have running and check for partial wakes
Locked Bootloader----I guess if you're into roms and stuff and don't want to wait it out, you have no choice but to return it.
if all fails, factory reset and/or get an exchange.
But why exchange after the first problem you have? If you want to return it just because you don't like it or it doesn't fit you...then by all means, please do. But if you're unwilling to put forth the effort of 5-15 minutes to try and fix some of these issues then go get an iphone or something that's VERY SIMPLE. Because what some people would do is get rid of the Atrix go out and get another top of the line Android device...have issues with that or complain that it's a feature missing that should've been there...and the cycle repeats itself.
In addition, like I stated in my other post somewhere on here....it will be updates for this phone but give it time. The Evo had issues and everybody got all uptight now everything is all good. It's one of the most active sub-forum here on xda.
Wow....sorry for the rant....I just had to get all of this off my chest

Amen! Agree 100%

People return this phone because it has a LOCKED BOOTLOADER. All their hopes to get custom Roms are shattered. Lag here or there don't matter because Android OS itself is a laggy OS compare to iOS anyway.
I personally think that iOS is the better way to go because of the well designed environment. Android's premature and also update is a mess which causing so many fragmentations.
Hopefully WP7 can solve that universal update on various hardware. Sometimes too open is not a good idea, because manufactures use the open software to develop a close platform on top doesn't benefit consumers directly unless you do the hacks.
Sigh... I'm disappointed about Android's fragmentation that's all. Me too am very interested to get the Atrix because of the Webtop even it's choppy. But man a locked down bootloader... that means... I have to wait for Motorola to update the Gingerbread maybe in 2012!

squarejp said:
People return this phone because it has a LOCKED BOOTLOADER. All their hopes to get custom Roms are shattered. Lag here or there don't matter because Android OS itself is a laggy OS compare to iOS anyway.
I personally think that iOS is the better way to go because of the well designed environment. Android's premature and also update is a mess which causing so many fragmentations.
Hopefully WP7 can solve that universal update on various hardware. Sometimes too open is not a good idea, because manufactures use the open software to develop a close platform on top doesn't benefit consumers directly unless you do the hacks.
Sigh... I'm disappointed about Android's fragmentation that's all. Me too am very interested to get the Atrix because of the Webtop even it's choppy. But man a locked down bootloader... that means... I have to wait for Motorola to update the Gingerbread maybe in 2012!
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Do it take Motorola a long time to release updates?

plmiller0905 said:
Do it take Motorola a long time to release updates?
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Generally no. I think they're the second best at updating their devices behind HTC.
Sent from my Nook Color on Honeycomb 1.1 OC

Clienterror said:
Generally no. I think they're the second best at updating their devices behind HTC.
Sent from my Nook Color on Honeycomb 1.1 OC
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Ok...well that's cool. As long as Motorola isn't like Samsung.

Only lagginess I've encountered on the Atrix was from an LED control app (I believe it was Light Flow), and it was more than lag, it was freezing up my phone. So I uninstalled it. No big deal. None of the Motoblur widgets seemed to slow or lag anything.

Thumbs up to OP.
All the threads I have seen about returning thier phone are such a waste of space on this board.
If you want to point out issues that's fine but you dont need to start a thread for that.
I just find that most of the posts I have read completely lack objectivity and seem to be rooted in frustration.

Totally agree with the OP. So far I love my atrix, and have tweeked it quite a bit to suit my needs. I do wish I could customize a bit more, but its not that big of a deal. Granted I upgraded from a TP2 so I don't have too much to compare to =D

I'm highly upset that there is a locked bootloader; that is probably the only reason I took the phone back; I loves everything else about it.
I'm waiting for the Galaxy S 2 to see if that's worth the money; I know the specs are amazing and the developer community behind it is going to be great as well.

Stock Honeycomb at launch with optional TouchWiz update?

Check it out in this video at 3:25-3:45 (sorry if this has been posted already..)
www (dot) youtube (dot) com (slash) watch?v=EVostB97nTY
(apparently I can't post links because I'm a new user.)
I really hope this is true, I might seriously consider buying the 8.9 or 10.1. Samsung, please don't screw this up!

This kinda mirrors what we've been hearing from other news outlets. There's a lot of talk about it being optional and a later upgrade. I don't think many people are going to want to upgrade to TouchWiz after dealing with stock 3.0 though lol.
Really tough though, there's no lack of misinformation around there. Samsung themselves wouldn't even give any idea of which tablets in which markets would even get TouchWiz4.0, let alone launch with it installed.

From the videos I have seen, I would upgrade to touchwiz if they fix the lag.

I've never understood the unconditional love for stock Android. Other than the fact that updates should come quicker, it is completely stale and barely appealing. Honeycomb in this case is fine, but I'm sure manufactures could only do more to improve it. I mean, Samsung added re-sizing widgets, its amazing that Google hadn't thought to add such a feature that should seem obvious at this point.
It appears Android can ever become truly polished without outside help.

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I've never understood the unconditional love for stock Android. Other than the fact that updates should come quicker, it is completely stale and barely appealing. Honeycomb in this case is fine, but I'm sure manufactures could only do more to improve it. I mean, Samsung added re-sizing widgets, its amazing that Google hadn't thought to add such a feature that should seem obvious at this point.
It appears Android can ever become truly polished without outside help.
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Its not that we love stock Android (well, some of us do), its that we hate what these skins do to the experience. They're often slow, and not necessarily without bugs. They also delay (or eliminate) later updates, which Honeycomb as we all know is going to need them.
I'm completely fine with custom UI's from manufacturers, but the biggest thing 99% of people have with them is they can't be removed! Let me have a checkbox in settings to remove it and I'll take whatever you have to give me at the point of sale of the device. I think Google is realizing that these UI's on 2.1 and 2.2 are a bit out of control, and they're trying to shut it down in 3.0 because honestly I think they've thought a lot about the UI in Honeycomb and how it relates to these tablets.
If Google completely disallows the application of custom UI's (or UX as Samsung wants to call them), then manufacturers will have to differentiate with hardware and if they want to add software it is gonna have to come in the form of bundled Apps and Widgets. That's 100% okay with me. Apps and Widgets really can add to the experience, without taking anything away from stock.

What recent... major Android device has been released with a sluggish UI? I'm honestly curious.

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What recent... major Android device has been released with a sluggish UI? I'm honestly curious.
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Every phone with Sense and TouchWiz I've ever used is slower and less CPU/RAM efficient than stock 2.2/2.3. You really don't notice the difference in day-to-day use until you experience stock. I never said "sluggish" but they are most definitely slower than stock. Any time you're adding additional UI elements the speed is probably gonna be the first to decrease.
Don't get me wrong, I love some of the work that manufacturers have done (mainly HTC) but their skins are very unnecessary at many points and I understand their strive to differentiate but its getting a bit ridiculous (I'm looking at you, Motorola Blur) that the skins often impede and are worse experiences than stock.

martonikaj said:
Every phone with Sense and TouchWiz I've ever used is slower and less CPU/RAM efficient than stock 2.2/2.3. You really don't notice the difference in day-to-day use until you experience stock. I never said "sluggish" but they are most definitely slower than stock. Any time you're adding additional UI elements the speed is probably gonna be the first to decrease.
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I've experienced stock, I own a Nexus One. However, I haven't spent an extended period of time with a non-Vanilla version of Android other than custom ROMS... so I assume this could be true.
Considering that I barely hear anyone mention how "slow" these skins are, I assumed it was an issue that was resolved with these newer phones.

Eclair~ said:
I've experienced stock, I own a Nexus One. However, I haven't spent an extended period of time with a non-Vanilla version of Android other than custom ROMS... so I assume this could be true.
Considering that I barely hear anyone mention how "slow" these skins are, I assumed it was an issue that was resolved with these newer phones.
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Its definitely less of an issue now with every phone being at a 1ghz clock or higher, and many coming out with dual core. But when it comes down to it its still extra weight over stock . You definitely hear more people complain about the lack of functionality more than the speed.

I have rooted many phones and after installing stock android (getting rid of UI's) I have noticed a noticeable speed increase in day to day activities.
I think the choice of Stock or Custom is something that has been a bit of a "duh" thing from the beginning. Im still a bit shocked that Android didn't force manufactured to make skins optional, but I'm glad to see Samsung doing this since they are one of the primary foulers on this update vs custom ui issue.

I could care less with skin like TouchWiz or Sense (no, not Motoblur!).
The only thing I am worried is the speed of update from Samsung or HTC.
That's all ...
Knowing that Google is holding Android Honeycomb 3.0 AOSP ... and another rumor of suppose to be "the" Google Tablet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011540
That made me re-think ...
The GTab 8.9" won't be available in Europe on June 2011 anyway.
It will be most likely on August 2011 or even September ...
I hate this situation, especially when my wife asks "When will we get a tablet? You are always waiting ... and waiting ...".
Yeah, when the GTab 8.9" is released in Europe, news about Google Tablet OR Honeycomb 3.1 OR QUAD CORE Tegra will be materialized
Next May, on Google IO, that would be one of the best news to watch and decide ... GTab 8.9" or NOT GTab 8.9", that's my million dollar question!

gogol said:
I hate this situation, especially when my wife asks "When will we get a tablet? You are always waiting ... and waiting ...".
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Same here... :-(
By the time I will be able to buy thin GT 10.1 there will be quad tegra right behind the corner... :-(

gogol said:
I could care less with skin like TouchWiz or Sense (no, not Motoblur!).
The only thing I am worried is the speed of update from Samsung or HTC.
That's all ...
Knowing that Google is holding Android Honeycomb 3.0 AOSP ... and another rumor of suppose to be "the" Google Tablet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011540
That made me re-think ...
The GTab 8.9" won't be available in Europe on June 2011 anyway.
It will be most likely on August 2011 or even September ...
I hate this situation, especially when my wife asks "When will we get a tablet? You are always waiting ... and waiting ...".
Yeah, when the GTab 8.9" is released in Europe, news about Google Tablet OR Honeycomb 3.1 OR QUAD CORE Tegra will be materialized
Next May, on Google IO, that would be one of the best news to watch and decide ... GTab 8.9" or NOT GTab 8.9", that's my million dollar question!
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You have to just go ahead and get something and be happy with it. Say you wait for the GTab to come out just as the Quad core Tegra stuff is materializing, so you continue to wait. Then the Quad Core stuff gets released just as the 6-Core or Android 5.0 stuff is shown. You'll end up waiting for ever. You just gotta get the best of what's available, put your head down and play with your toy for the next few years and try not to worry or think about what the "hot" new item around the corner is. The market just moves too fast for that.

People seem to fail to realize that something better, especially when related to technology, is always around the corner. And unless you want to spend thousands of dollars trying to stay up-to-date, you need to get that one thing that makes you the happiest... or just like the poster above me stated, you will end up waiting and waiting.
Make up your minds people~

Buy something now, sell it later and buy something new. I did something like that with e-reader - when I was tired of waiting for a perfect one.

That's true ... I can just buy something right now instead of waiting.
But, that "right now" is not available here in Europe.
And we still don't know what is that "right now" in Europe.
For start, I don't think I would buy a tablet with Android 3.0.1.
There are so much instability issues (read Xoom forum and official Moto Xoom forum).
My gut feeling tells me, during Google IO, there will be a new much better version of Android 3.x.
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You have to just go ahead and get something and be happy with it. Say you wait for the GTab to come out just as the Quad core Tegra stuff is materializing, so you continue to wait. Then the Quad Core stuff gets released just as the 6-Core or Android 5.0 stuff is shown. You'll end up waiting for ever. You just gotta get the best of what's available, put your head down and play with your toy for the next few years and try not to worry or think about what the "hot" new item around the corner is. The market just moves too fast for that.
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Just in:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/google-tightening-control-of-android-insisting-licensees-abide/
So, don't worry much anymore
I think, this TouchWiz 4.0 on Honeycomb already got screened by Google.
Meaning, it should not be deeply integrated. Most probably it is just a layer installed on TOP of Honeycomb, which can be uninstalled.

I honestly doubt it can be uninstalled, but I can't wait to find out. It looks like they replaced the launcher, added a few apps and added their own skin to UI elements. It doesn't sound like you can simply "uninstall" all of what they did.
Edit: After checking over a few photos again TouchWiz is definitely integrated into the system. It appears as if you would have to flash an entirely new build over it to remove it. Not preform a simple uninstall. Then again, what do I know?

gogol said:
Most probably it is just a layer installed on TOP of Honeycomb, which can be uninstalled.
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I think this is the case too. This may explain why Samsung haven't released it yet as they are make sure the TouchWiz UI layer conforms to Google's restrictions (i.e. sits on top of the Application Framework layer). If this is the case, then it should be uninstallable like any other application. Time will tell but I really hope this is the case.

Any more news on this lately?