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Hey Guys
just found this forum now, am in straight away
am using HTC wildfire for 2 weeks now, maybe less, when I got the phone i was so excited and turned it on immediately before charging, I do not know if this a reason for my battery to get empty too fast, I MUST charge it everyday, some days heavy use, but I have tested for normal use and still the same, as i saw in many threads all people are happy from the battery life.
so any idea to solve this silly weak battery.
cheers
This is Touch2 territory :S
Try a full discharge then a full recharge cycle. Let it die to the point that you can not get the phone to turn on and then recharge. These batteries should not need this but it might help.
G2 Battery Life Thread
Please state if you have a different battery than the 1300mAh it comes with original.
My experience
First day
Received it with 25% ~4pm
Powered off at 0% ~ 6pm
First day (first charge) - wall charge
0 - 100% from 6PM - to 11PM (it took less to charge but i left it a few more hours)
Unplugged at 11PM - played with it till around 1AM
1AM - 7AM - did not charge, it was on standby
7AM - 1:30PM - school / text / web / a few games
1:30 - 2:45PM - a few phone calls / light texting
Battery died at 0% ~ 3:00PM, at around 15-16hours with use, but also no use for about 6hours overnight.
I have installed Advanced Task Killer, whenever I end apps, it ends between 5-15.. average being around 10.. lol
but so far, my first charge from 100%-0%, without overnight use, i got around 15 hours.
drain first or charge first?
nick, you drained your batt before fully charging it.
arent the instructions always telling us how important it is to fully charge it first after you unbox it, before use?
formatting the batt is completely use up all power and then do a full min. 8h charge... best to complete this about 3 times to get full battery capacity
jus use this thing as you want.
this curiosity about battery life...
if the battery is dead, buy a new one. i dont want the phone dominating my life. i use it when and how i want. if battery cant handle it will get replaced.
gnormal said:
nick, you drained your batt before fully charging it.
arent the instructions always telling us how important it is to fully charge it first after you unbox it, before use?
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That was true for NiCd batteries, which are not in use for many years. You don't need to format your battery anymore.
@nickbunyun: now try it without ATK.
Gee, I do so wish there was a G2 forum for all these G2 threads to go in hehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750
Well, G2 or Desire Z, it's only the first charge... and whether you've fully discharged it or not at first time use, at the first charge batteries aren't at their maximum performance.
See my first charge experience:
HTC HD2: 1st - 10 hours ..... after some charge/discharge: entire day playing on it for the entire morning and texting for the rest of the day (or two days without playing)
Motorola Milestone: 1st - 6 hours ..... after some charge/discharge: same of HD2.
We'll see the battery performance only when you'll use it and you'll charge/discharge it for at least three times!
Anyway, thanks!
snudel said:
jus use this thing as you want.
this curiosity about battery life...
if the battery is dead, buy a new one. i dont want the phone dominating my life. i use it when and how i want. if battery cant handle it will get replaced.
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spot on snudel!
snudel said:
jus use this thing as you want.
this curiosity about battery life...
if the battery is dead, buy a new one. i dont want the phone dominating my life. i use it when and how i want. if battery cant handle it will get replaced.
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I started following this thought process when I got my Motorola Milestone. Sitting it in the dock to charge when not in use and overnight helped but I'm still suffering a little from battery obsession. It's a hard habit to break.
i started it with my htc magic and continued with the desire.
the battery tool it perfectly fine.
at the beginning the battery wouldnt last a day. so i bought a second charger for my work place
so first days i charged it everywhere and after some3-4 days, the battery lasted a full day.
so i started charging over night. no matter how full the battery was.
this works out perfectly well. so i will kepp it.
I posted this tips in the Magic section, but since the battery performance of the Desire HD seems to be an issue (and quite frankly could be the deal-breaker for me), it would be interesting if it could be confirmed that this method would increase battery performance.
The original article was published in the EVO 4G forum and explaines how to increase battery life on that device. These instructions are supplied by HTC themselves, and are issued as a response to a customer complaining to HTC about poor battery performance on the EVO 4G device.
Original thread to be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
The instructions are:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour. Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
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HTC claims that this is a one time procedure.
Anybody care to try, and report back?
Do not think it works, but I agree first charge should be at least 7-8 hours.
All we can do maybe wait for 3-5 full charges cycles so that the battery optimizes itself.
I have LaCrosse smart charger for AA + AAA batteries that can train batteries automatically. I'd wish I had one for smartphone battery :-(
I will give it a try tonight and report back
isn't this just tricking the battery monitor into thinking it has more power than it really has?
You should fully charge and discharge your battery a few times (let the phone switch off on its own - you can accelerate the discharge by disabling "screen auto switch off", enabling full brightness, Wifi and BT)
Perhaps you will find this thread interesting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519673
Black1982 said:
Perhaps you will find this thread interesting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519673
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That is interesting. It suggests lots of shallow recharges where you avoid hitting 100% is better for the battery than full discharge/charge cycles.
Hmmm.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
Just got mine today. Will give this a try straight out of the box. Has anyone tried this on the DHD yet and if so, what were the results?
I have two Arias, one freshly rooted with the rooted stock ROM and one running attn1's FR008 flashed straight from the freshly rooted state. The only additional app installed is BattStatt, so I can easily monitor battery state. One battery is new, with only a few cycles (over about a week) and one battery is older, purchased in August.
Over the next few nights I will be doing an experiment. Both phones will be on, same settings for GPS, WiFi, Data, and Bluetooth. They will only have the displays set on about every hour or so to check battery states. The following night, the test will be done again, with the batteries swapped. I will then run the test again with WiFi on, with intermittant connections due to my work environment.
I expect to update this thread after each night's experiment.
The first night is an exception, I'm comparing my normal ROM (loaded with apps, widgets, and running Tasker) My first night has been interesting...one running freshly rooted is still 100% after 1.5 hours. The FR008 with many apps is down to 89% (note that this is the older battery). Perhaps at the 4 hour mark, I shall swap them. It would be nice to do this with 2 new batteries, but I have what I have.
This is being done to lay rest to the claim that one ROM gives better battery life over another. Seems like it is going to be conclusive if the first night is any indication. Perhaps we'll see what app is the culprit? (Widgets??Tasker??)
Phone calls?
Interesting article regarding battery life
Interesting experiment !
Just FYI - an provocative article :
Your Battery Gauge Is Lying To You:
Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging
And Inconsistent Battery Drain
No phone calls on either. Just to be fair, since one is without a sim card, both of them have data turned off.
At the 4 hour mark, the original rooted ROM is still at 100% and the FR008 with mucho is at 82%. I have swapped batteries.
This gave me an opportunity to race bootups. The stock ROM booted up and was usable before the FR008 (with UOT cooked startup bootup animation) even got to the dancing droid. Makes me want to undo that to see if that is slowing down the bootup.
I am eager to do this full swing with clean ROMs tomorrow. I shall make a backup of the FR008 ROM then go back to the aria_shipped_rooted_signed.zip
(found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783508&highlight=Original+ROM). I will then flash FR008, adding only a widget for easy monitoring of battery levels, BattStatt.
This experiment is going to have to wait. Part 2 of last night's experiment indicated that my older battery drains fast in either device/ROM. The article linked in this thread is good reading. Thanks for that info.
My last Intruder was a Grumman A-6E.
Awesome idea
What a great idea - I hate the battery life on my Aria, and have tried multiple ROMs and multiple battery programs. I look forward to watching your progress with different settings and ongoing informational reports
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This experiment is going to have to wait. Part 2 of last night's experiment indicated that my older battery drains fast in either device/ROM. The article linked in this thread is good reading. Thanks for that info.
My last Intruder was a Grumman A-6E.
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duckrebeard:
I pretty much ran a similar test
I have two Aria phones - both the same age
one is stock 2.1
one is FR008
I set them both up the same - running HTC Sense -
I set the phones down (while I slept) for 8 hours
the stock phone drained 10%
the FR008 phone drained 43%
Did it twice
I know its not a 'real' test , but it does make you go hrmmmmmmmm.
If only you had a 3rd phone to throw CM into the mix! lol
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duckrebeard:
I set the phones down (while I slept) for 8 hours
the stock phone drained 10%
the FR008 phone drained 43%
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You set the phone down for 8 hours and your phone drained 57% battery on idle for FR008? I find that very hard to believe because I have set my phone down over night and it drained 2% of my battery if even that. FR008 has shown the best battery life to me over the entire FR series. As of right now, my battery has been off charger for 6 hours, and Ive used the internet, wifi, and light texting with my battery at 100% still.
Edit: Im also using SetCPU...I dont know how much of a difference that would make, but there should be a difference. Try using SetCPU
FR008 is a battery drainer from hell. I just accept it.
SetCPU slows down my phone to epic proportions--no thanks.
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You set the phone down for 8 hours and your phone drained 57% battery on idle for FR008? I find that very hard to believe because I have set my phone down over night and it drained 2% of my battery if even that. FR008 has shown the best battery life to me over the entire FR series. As of right now, my battery has been off charger for 6 hours, and Ive used the internet, wifi, and light texting with my battery at 100% still.
Edit: Im also using SetCPU...I dont know how much of a difference that would make, but there should be a difference. Try using SetCPU
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you dont have to believe me - just telling you exactly what I have experienced
It wasnt just one night - I tested this for 3 nights straight before I made this post -
if you are running all those things for 6 hours and still show 100% - I would question that
Here is a note :
I downloaded the HK version from attn1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819715
and noticed a much better battery life
Those of you who are exerpiencing battery issues - might want to try that one out!
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if you are running all those things for 6 hours and still show 100% - I would question that
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I said I have been off the charger for 6 hours. Not necessarily using the phone for 6 hours. I browsed the web for around half an hour and sent about 30 texts since Ive been off the charger. I just dont see how its possible for your phone to drain 57% while youre not using it. What happens when you start using it?
tribestros said:
FR008 is a battery drainer from hell. I just accept it.
SetCPU slows down my phone to epic proportions--no thanks.
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I have noticed no lag with SetCPU. To each his own
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I said I have been off the charger for 6 hours. Not necessarily using the phone for 6 hours. I browsed the web for around half an hour and sent about 30 texts since Ive been off the charger. I just dont see how its possible for your phone to drain 57% while youre not using it. What happens when you start using it?
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When i start using it - I love it
let me try this - i am currently at 100% -
its 8:17 AM PST
I will let it sit 'idle' on my desk at work - off charge.
in one hour - i estimate that it will have dropped 2% now (new ROM)
I will report back
tribestros said:
FR008 is a battery drainer from hell. I just accept it.
SetCPU slows down my phone to epic proportions--no thanks.
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You're using it wrong then.
Nutshell69 said:
When i start using it - I love it
let me try this - i am currently at 100% -
its 8:17 AM PST
I will let it sit 'idle' on my desk at work - off charge.
in one hour - i estimate that it will have dropped 2% now (new ROM)
I will report back
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its 9:27 AM - my BattStat is reporting *drumroll* 100 Percent !?!
unbelievable!
This is on the HK Rom...
Me - like
now - i will install FR008 and retest - back in an hour
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its 9:27 AM - my BattStat is reporting *drumroll* 100 Percent !?!
unbelievable!
This is on the HK Rom...
Me - like
now - i will install FR008 and retest - back in an hour
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ok, just about an hour on FR008 - and now my BattStat is reporting . . . .
96% !?!
Both times - the phone was just left alone - on my desk - not being charge - not being moved at all - no touchy.....
Both were fully wiped prior to flashing
Both had LPP + DV + 3 widgets (mClock, Exteneded Controls, BattStat)
Both had turned off News/Stock sync
Both had 2 emails (Exchange, IMAP) set up
though not truely scientific - but nevertheless
HK Version showing < 1% drop
FR008 vers showing < 5% drop
dont know what to say - these are my results.
wish i had your results
iJudgeMAN said:
I said I have been off the charger for 6 hours. Not necessarily using the phone for 6 hours. I browsed the web for around half an hour and sent about 30 texts since Ive been off the charger. I just dont see how its possible for your phone to drain 57% while youre not using it. What happens when you start using it?
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Wow... to use your words "I just don't see how it's possible" that you are still at 100% after sending 30 texts and 30 minutes of web browsing. In my own experience with my 2 month old Aria, even on the stock Aria, that sounds unbelievable. Either that or your battery calibration is way off.
My HTC ARIA with FR008 drain 2% in 8 hours.
Wifi off.
GPS off.
PLANE MODE ON
Set CPU when the screen is off 200-400 MHz
Set CPU when the screen is off 200-800 MHz and work very very smooth with Live Wallpapers.
Average CPU Usage <1%
Plane mode on????
With all those things off , why not just power down
: p
I just bought a 3800mah extended battery from seido however i noticed my battery life is very similar to the stock. I was also told to first charge my battery up to full when i got it, then wait until it's empty, then go back to full 3 to 4 times to break it in.
Someone read online that i would need to hack the kernal to take full advantage of this new battery though. Can someone explain and answer these myths i hear and make sense how to get full advantage of the extended battery?
Oh. i'm also on rooted liberty 2.0.1 (no tethering yet in gingerbread) if that helps.
Either way, you can't touch the kernel if you want you're phone to boot
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Either way, you can't touch the kernel if you want you're phone to boot
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Thanks, guess that was just a myth. So then are there any tips to make the phone read the battery as it should? It shouldn't die as fast as my stock battery if it's 2.3 times larger, it should last at least 50% longer, and that's giving it a TON of overhead too..
(dang 5 minute repost >.>)
I paid $11.40 on eBay for my 3800 mah battery and it lasts about 4 days with light usage and about 2.5 days with regular usage IE: internet browsing, game playing, texting all day, send a few emails, not to mention about an hours worth of calls per day. And my phone recognizes the extended battery perfectly I don't need any market apps for the battery to work. I'm running liberty GB v0.7
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I paid $11.40 on eBay for my 3800 mah battery and it lasts about 4 days with light usage and about 2.5 days with regular usage IE: internet browsing, game playing, texting all day, send a few emails, not to mention about an hours worth of calls per day. And my phone recognizes the extended battery perfectly I don't need any market apps for the battery to work. I'm running liberty GB v0.7
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So you plugged it in and that's it? Didn't have to charge it to full etc? Oh, and is there any special way i should charge my phone? I know lithium doesn't have memory but i don't deal with li-ions as much as i deal with lipos.. Can i charge anytime of the day for however long and still not affect my battery life in the short term?
Someone read online that i would need to hack the kernal to take full advantage of this new battery though
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Just reboot into clockwork recovery, advanced, clear battery stats.
That's as much 'kernel hacking' as you need to do.
Also, I wouldn't trust 3rd party batteries in the future when it comes to android devices.
QQeyes said:
Just reboot into clockwork recovery, advanced, clear battery stats.
That's as much 'kernel hacking' as you need to do.
Also, I wouldn't trust 3rd party batteries in the future when it comes to android devices.
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I understand, though i have been reading only good on seido li-ions... Reason i got this one.
I got the no name brand (made in china 3500mAh) battery. However the logs aren't adjusting the battery readings correctly. I get that alarm at 15% and 5% about needing to plug up, but I just left it till it was dead. 8.8hrs later it died so not sure why that is happening. DO you let it go till dead or till it beeps its annoying alarm at you? Make sure to let it go all the way dead. As far as charging, Mine charges up within 2 hrs now..but the first 3 charges I would let it run dead and then charge for 8 hrs then do it when I sleep now, so I plug it in each night but I can get a full 24hrs of l33t use on it. I only got like 5/6hrs on original battery. Plus I work in a Server room. Dual security and dual brick layers so my radio is working it's a$$ off.