I have two Arias, one freshly rooted with the rooted stock ROM and one running attn1's FR008 flashed straight from the freshly rooted state. The only additional app installed is BattStatt, so I can easily monitor battery state. One battery is new, with only a few cycles (over about a week) and one battery is older, purchased in August.
Over the next few nights I will be doing an experiment. Both phones will be on, same settings for GPS, WiFi, Data, and Bluetooth. They will only have the displays set on about every hour or so to check battery states. The following night, the test will be done again, with the batteries swapped. I will then run the test again with WiFi on, with intermittant connections due to my work environment.
I expect to update this thread after each night's experiment.
The first night is an exception, I'm comparing my normal ROM (loaded with apps, widgets, and running Tasker) My first night has been interesting...one running freshly rooted is still 100% after 1.5 hours. The FR008 with many apps is down to 89% (note that this is the older battery). Perhaps at the 4 hour mark, I shall swap them. It would be nice to do this with 2 new batteries, but I have what I have.
This is being done to lay rest to the claim that one ROM gives better battery life over another. Seems like it is going to be conclusive if the first night is any indication. Perhaps we'll see what app is the culprit? (Widgets??Tasker??)
Phone calls?
Interesting article regarding battery life
Interesting experiment !
Just FYI - an provocative article :
Your Battery Gauge Is Lying To You:
Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging
And Inconsistent Battery Drain
No phone calls on either. Just to be fair, since one is without a sim card, both of them have data turned off.
At the 4 hour mark, the original rooted ROM is still at 100% and the FR008 with mucho is at 82%. I have swapped batteries.
This gave me an opportunity to race bootups. The stock ROM booted up and was usable before the FR008 (with UOT cooked startup bootup animation) even got to the dancing droid. Makes me want to undo that to see if that is slowing down the bootup.
I am eager to do this full swing with clean ROMs tomorrow. I shall make a backup of the FR008 ROM then go back to the aria_shipped_rooted_signed.zip
(found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783508&highlight=Original+ROM). I will then flash FR008, adding only a widget for easy monitoring of battery levels, BattStatt.
This experiment is going to have to wait. Part 2 of last night's experiment indicated that my older battery drains fast in either device/ROM. The article linked in this thread is good reading. Thanks for that info.
My last Intruder was a Grumman A-6E.
Awesome idea
What a great idea - I hate the battery life on my Aria, and have tried multiple ROMs and multiple battery programs. I look forward to watching your progress with different settings and ongoing informational reports
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This experiment is going to have to wait. Part 2 of last night's experiment indicated that my older battery drains fast in either device/ROM. The article linked in this thread is good reading. Thanks for that info.
My last Intruder was a Grumman A-6E.
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duckrebeard:
I pretty much ran a similar test
I have two Aria phones - both the same age
one is stock 2.1
one is FR008
I set them both up the same - running HTC Sense -
I set the phones down (while I slept) for 8 hours
the stock phone drained 10%
the FR008 phone drained 43%
Did it twice
I know its not a 'real' test , but it does make you go hrmmmmmmmm.
If only you had a 3rd phone to throw CM into the mix! lol
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duckrebeard:
I set the phones down (while I slept) for 8 hours
the stock phone drained 10%
the FR008 phone drained 43%
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You set the phone down for 8 hours and your phone drained 57% battery on idle for FR008? I find that very hard to believe because I have set my phone down over night and it drained 2% of my battery if even that. FR008 has shown the best battery life to me over the entire FR series. As of right now, my battery has been off charger for 6 hours, and Ive used the internet, wifi, and light texting with my battery at 100% still.
Edit: Im also using SetCPU...I dont know how much of a difference that would make, but there should be a difference. Try using SetCPU
FR008 is a battery drainer from hell. I just accept it.
SetCPU slows down my phone to epic proportions--no thanks.
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You set the phone down for 8 hours and your phone drained 57% battery on idle for FR008? I find that very hard to believe because I have set my phone down over night and it drained 2% of my battery if even that. FR008 has shown the best battery life to me over the entire FR series. As of right now, my battery has been off charger for 6 hours, and Ive used the internet, wifi, and light texting with my battery at 100% still.
Edit: Im also using SetCPU...I dont know how much of a difference that would make, but there should be a difference. Try using SetCPU
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you dont have to believe me - just telling you exactly what I have experienced
It wasnt just one night - I tested this for 3 nights straight before I made this post -
if you are running all those things for 6 hours and still show 100% - I would question that
Here is a note :
I downloaded the HK version from attn1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819715
and noticed a much better battery life
Those of you who are exerpiencing battery issues - might want to try that one out!
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if you are running all those things for 6 hours and still show 100% - I would question that
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I said I have been off the charger for 6 hours. Not necessarily using the phone for 6 hours. I browsed the web for around half an hour and sent about 30 texts since Ive been off the charger. I just dont see how its possible for your phone to drain 57% while youre not using it. What happens when you start using it?
tribestros said:
FR008 is a battery drainer from hell. I just accept it.
SetCPU slows down my phone to epic proportions--no thanks.
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I have noticed no lag with SetCPU. To each his own
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I said I have been off the charger for 6 hours. Not necessarily using the phone for 6 hours. I browsed the web for around half an hour and sent about 30 texts since Ive been off the charger. I just dont see how its possible for your phone to drain 57% while youre not using it. What happens when you start using it?
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When i start using it - I love it
let me try this - i am currently at 100% -
its 8:17 AM PST
I will let it sit 'idle' on my desk at work - off charge.
in one hour - i estimate that it will have dropped 2% now (new ROM)
I will report back
tribestros said:
FR008 is a battery drainer from hell. I just accept it.
SetCPU slows down my phone to epic proportions--no thanks.
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You're using it wrong then.
Nutshell69 said:
When i start using it - I love it
let me try this - i am currently at 100% -
its 8:17 AM PST
I will let it sit 'idle' on my desk at work - off charge.
in one hour - i estimate that it will have dropped 2% now (new ROM)
I will report back
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its 9:27 AM - my BattStat is reporting *drumroll* 100 Percent !?!
unbelievable!
This is on the HK Rom...
Me - like
now - i will install FR008 and retest - back in an hour
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its 9:27 AM - my BattStat is reporting *drumroll* 100 Percent !?!
unbelievable!
This is on the HK Rom...
Me - like
now - i will install FR008 and retest - back in an hour
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ok, just about an hour on FR008 - and now my BattStat is reporting . . . .
96% !?!
Both times - the phone was just left alone - on my desk - not being charge - not being moved at all - no touchy.....
Both were fully wiped prior to flashing
Both had LPP + DV + 3 widgets (mClock, Exteneded Controls, BattStat)
Both had turned off News/Stock sync
Both had 2 emails (Exchange, IMAP) set up
though not truely scientific - but nevertheless
HK Version showing < 1% drop
FR008 vers showing < 5% drop
dont know what to say - these are my results.
wish i had your results
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I said I have been off the charger for 6 hours. Not necessarily using the phone for 6 hours. I browsed the web for around half an hour and sent about 30 texts since Ive been off the charger. I just dont see how its possible for your phone to drain 57% while youre not using it. What happens when you start using it?
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Wow... to use your words "I just don't see how it's possible" that you are still at 100% after sending 30 texts and 30 minutes of web browsing. In my own experience with my 2 month old Aria, even on the stock Aria, that sounds unbelievable. Either that or your battery calibration is way off.
My HTC ARIA with FR008 drain 2% in 8 hours.
Wifi off.
GPS off.
PLANE MODE ON
Set CPU when the screen is off 200-400 MHz
Set CPU when the screen is off 200-800 MHz and work very very smooth with Live Wallpapers.
Average CPU Usage <1%
Plane mode on????
With all those things off , why not just power down
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was today with:
2.6.35.4_SVS-925mV_BFS_AXI_720p_1113MHz_082710
and
update-cm-6.0.0-N1-signed.zip
with phone idling all day, battery went dead and phone shut off within 8 hours of full charge... wtf?!?
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was today with:
2.6.35.4_SVS-925mV_BFS_AXI_720p_1113MHz_082710
and
update-cm-6.0.0-N1-signed.zip
with phone idling all day, battery went dead and phone shut off within 8 hours of full charge... wtf?!?
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I've also noticed that with the latest CM's battery life is an issue for me. Ive got KoR roms to last almost two full days but cm is dead within 20 hours.
My battery life has changed as well and I now have to keep my travel charger and car charger with me at all times or suffer with a dead phone.
i had been running rc3 with the 8-19 kernel, and my battery life was similar to stock, but the combination of latest CM and wildmonks are just killing me... i think im going to go back to rc3 with the 8-19 kernel.
Check the active processes. You can't drain the battery in 8 hours unless you have a process stuck, using 100% CPU constantly (possibly Exchange?).
good thought, but im not an exchange user... i cant seem to isolate the issue. im going to do a full wipe and try stock to see if maybe i have a bad battery.
People with battery life issues should try Enom's ROM with a wildmonks kernel. I'm 18 hours in of a full charge and I'm at 76%. That's normal use with full screen brightness, wifi and gps, quite a few background updating apps, etc.
Over 50% of power usage should be the display under even moderate usage.
With wifi, push, and poll active, the battery drop per hour with the screen off should be less than 1%.
If it's higher than that, you need to find the rogue process or get rid of an automatic task killer.
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Over 50% of power usage should be the display under even moderate usage.
With wifi, push, and poll active, the battery drop per hour with the screen off should be less than 1%.
If it's higher than that, you need to find the rogue process or get rid of an automatic task killer.
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Display is most of my usage with over 50% every time. I have one app that auto updates in the background, Twitter, and thats every half hour. I do have 3g on but with wireless on most of the time. GPS, Autosync, and Auto-Brightness is on. I play one game twice a day, World War, once in the morning, once at night, but both times are usually on the charger.
Now that I think about it, Im a part of latitude but maps/latitude never consume battery according the about>battery.
Either way CM6 full charge starting at 4am, with light-moderate use, will be dead at like 5pm. I can go almost 2 days on a single charge of KoR rom. Enoms rom I have tried and lasts a full day +some...
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was today with:
2.6.35.4_SVS-925mV_BFS_AXI_720p_1113MHz_082710
and
update-cm-6.0.0-N1-signed.zip
with phone idling all day, battery went dead and phone shut off within 8 hours of full charge... wtf?!?
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I have the same issue and have had it since RC2. I can deal with it since I have the desktop dock at work, the car dock, and two wall chargers at home. The drain is pretty noticeable -- after about 30 minutes of the phone being off the charger and left alone with screen off, the battery charge is at 94% with "Display" using 65% of that. Wifi/BT/GPS off.
Like I said, it's not a big deal right now because I have chargers everywhere, but it's really annoying. I'm still searching for the fix, but if I can't find it, back to MCR for me.
I tried CM for 1 week and I must say the extra glitters is not worth the poor battery life., only lasted 1 day if used moderately. I just switched back to FRF91 Stock Rom today, lasts me 2days if used moderately. Longivity of the battery is another long term concern people should think about. I still miss my modded dialpad with big buttons, cool trackball colors and many more, CM is such a TEASE!
What kind of battery life are people getting with Pershoot's latest? It's undervolted, so it should do pretty well.
mythamp said:
I tried CM for 1 week and I must say the extra glitters is not worth the poor battery life., only lasted 1 day if used moderately. I just switched back to FRF91 Stock Rom today, lasts me 2days if used moderately. Longivity of the battery is another long term concern people should think about. I still miss my modded dialpad with big buttons, cool trackball colors and many more, CM is such a TEASE!
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Tried Enom? I've seen zero difference in battery life, perhaps slightly better, since switching to it from stock Froyo on my N1.
In the battery use screen, what's draining the battery with the screen off? Let the phone drain like 10% with the screen off the entire time after unplugging.
several recent nighties and cm6.0.0 seem to have something broken.. Four hours of standby after full charge and the battery level already @ 83%.
cell standby 32%; idle 29%; display (wtf was turned off all the time) 28%.
Drains twice as fast compared to older CM roms..
The LEDs are also considered the Display by the battery meter.
Still, 17% in four hours is enormous. I guess I'll have to hold off on CM6 until they sort this out.
Dicks! 4% battery drain in one hour with almost no use, and that's after flashing pershoot's undervolted kernel. No way.
I'm going to try wildmonk's kernel now. :/
My battery life on cyanogen six is down right awful. Every day I charge it at night and when I go to bed even if I don't use it its at 15%
Isn't there anything I can do?
Macmee said:
My battery life on cyanogen six is down right awful. Every day I charge it at night and when I go to bed even if I don't use it its at 15%
Isn't there anything I can do?
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Its not cyanogen 6. i have a 4ma drain when the phone is sleeping. thats less then a 1 % a hour
wsrider said:
Its not cyanogen 6. i have a 4ma drain when the phone is sleeping. thats less then a 1 % a hour
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I, as well, see about a 1%/hour drain when my phone is not in use.
Usually, unruly battery drain is due to a rouge application you have installed.
I'm getting better than ever battery life on CM6.
Try charging all the way, reboot into recovery, wipe battery stats, charge all the way again.
I'm getting better than ever battery life on CM6.
Try charging all the way, reboot into recovery, wipe battery stats, charge all the way again.
danguyf said:
I'm getting better than ever battery life on CM6.
Try charging all the way, reboot into recovery, wipe battery stats, charge all the way again.
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I did something similar... I got it to warning (15%) and then erased battery stats... I then ran my my phone until it died and died again... after that it shouldn't get past boot if so then proceed to boot it into bootloader. The bootloaders white screen should drain back up battery quickly so only leave it on for only 2-3 mins. Charge it fully powered off and enjoy 15+ hours uptime!
my battery sucks ass too it was never like this before??? kernel??? could a different kernel fix this issue..if so which is the best please be specific so many kernel to choose if any...please help..thanks!
does the phone radio matter because im using the 5.8.4 i believe..
xghostyxjokerx said:
my battery sucks ass too it was never like this before??? kernel??? could a different kernel fix this issue..if so which is the best please be specific so many kernel to choose if any...please help..thanks!
does the phone radio matter because im using the 5.8.4 i believe..
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cyan 6 has had terrible battery life for me. so i switched back to leofroyo latest beta rom and got back my 3hr/% standby battery life. with widgets and email checking every 30 minutes. i'm down to 2hr/% in standby. usually in a day i lose 25% battery life with mild internet use and calling. i charge my phone every two days. can't beat that.
Try manually closing all applications & services that are not vital to your phone, then test over a day or two. If that doesn't work, try a different kernel.
Okay I've had about enough of this. It goes down to 15% every day EVEN IF I DON'T USE IT AT ALL
Could someone recommend me the best battery life rom in town, even if it's the stock one?
Macmee said:
Okay I've had about enough of this. It goes down to 15% every day EVEN IF I DON'T USE IT AT ALL
Could someone recommend me the best battery life rom in town, even if it's the stock one?
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This one is good. Best in town is hard to judge, but a lot of people enjoy the battery and stability:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Try blackbar v6.1 or stockbar v6.1. Those are the FRF91 build. I haven't tried the FRG33 but it's probably pretty great as well. The first post lists the changes from stock.
I'm fighting with battery life too, but problem is not when in standby where it uses less than 1% per hour, but actually using it (browsing) you can see battery lose 1% every two minutes... is it like that for you guys also? Really frustrating me...
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ChongoDroid said:
I did something similar... I got it to warning (15%) and then erased battery stats... I then ran my my phone until it died and died again... after that it shouldn't get past boot if so then proceed to boot it into bootloader. The bootloaders white screen should drain back up battery quickly so only leave it on for only 2-3 mins. Charge it fully powered off and enjoy 15+ hours uptime!
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Don't do this. Draining lithium ion batteries to completely dead is one off the worst things you can do to those batteries. It kills off their capacity
Charge to full, turn off phone and charge again until led turns green again, then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
15 hour uptime is average not excellent
Rellikzephyr
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This one is good. Best in town is hard to judge, but a lot of people enjoy the battery and stability:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Try blackbar v6.1 or stockbar v6.1. Those are the FRF91 build. I haven't tried the FRG33 but it's probably pretty great as well. The first post lists the changes from stock.
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This is an excellent ROM. i've used it until i switched over to LeoFroyo. They both use the stock kernel and in my opinion i think its th best.
i also like to downclock the processor down to 800mhz with setcpu. definitely helps with the battery drain while using the phone. Non of those 925mv kernels help out in my experience.
Well I run go chat and msn constantly, I use 40 percent display, wifi, 3g, sync, etc and its about double the length I got when it was stock. Right now at 12% and I'm at 16 hours and 32 minutes! I wipe battery stats every time I flash a new radio also it seems to help
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Used cm6 for ages till i tried enom's.. i got from an avg of 14hrs of battery life(cm6) to an avg of 26hrs (enom).. all with very heavy usage...
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Used cm6 for ages till i tried enom's.. i got from an avg of 14hrs of battery life(cm6) to an avg of 26hrs (enom).. all with very heavy usage...
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This is way better battery life than what I get on Enom's, but I get consistantly 14hours to about 15% and I use my phone a LOT.
Really eh... Well il be sure to check out some new enoms! I'm feeling this nxsense too 13 hour first day not bad for porky sense
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Heavy for me means more than 3 hours on the screen being on... as im constantly using my nexus... i just cant put the thing down for a min.. and yeap enom's rom with wildmonks kernel really helps the battery..
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This is way better battery life than what I get on Enom's, but I get consistantly 14hours to about 15% and I use my phone a LOT.
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same here on enoms. battery drain on cm6 was one of the main reasons i jumped ship to enoms
Hey guys I got my EVO in the mail on Thursday, and do I love the thing! I have been reading about battery life and was a little concerned at first, but that was then. Last night I unplugged my phone at 7pm and it had a 95% charge. I played with it a bit and texted until around 12am. I did not charge it and started texting and using it for a while this morning around 10am. It is now 4pm and I have 49% battery. If this is what everyone is complaining about, im happy with it haha.
Basically, it's people leaving 4G / Wifi / Bluetooth / GPS all on at the same time that kills the battery life of the Evo. My launch-day Evo has routinely done 20+ hours of usage with no problems.
The only times I've ever seen a marked decrease in battery performance, I could find that some app was hung up in the background draining the juice.
Rooted or just stock non root?
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Jackk819 said:
Hey guys I got my EVO in the mail on Thursday, and do I love the thing! I have been reading about battery life and was a little concerned at first, but that was then. Last night I unplugged my phone at 7pm and it had a 95% charge. I played with it a bit and texted until around 12am. I did not charge it and started texting and using it for a while this morning around 10am. It is now 4pm and I have 49% battery. If this is what everyone is complaining about, im happy with it haha.
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Come back after you try using data for an extended time (texts don't need data connections most of the time), having your mail sync for even every 3 hours or so and facebook, news, weather or any other auto sync feature enabled. Watch your battery die as quick as a witch under water.
My email syncs every 10 minutes, and my weather syncs as soon as it can. (not sure how many minutes). My facebook updates pretty often. And I have news updating as well.
My phone is also NOT rooted.
I get fine battery life, with WiFi connected I get much better standby than when using mobile data. Turn mobile data off when I'm out and about and the battery basically doesn't move. But I still can get 20 hours of use if I'm not on my phone constantly. I only turn off mobile data if I think I need my phone to last more than a day. Like camping or something. I have gmail pushed and weather and all that good stuff synced every hour. Been playing with juice defender which does increase battery life pretty good but you can get the same effect by toggling your mobile data with the widget. Juice defender does turn on data every 15 mins for a minute to sync which is nice but it causes a little lag when you unlock your screen because it turns on data as soon as you unlock, a little annoying.
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Jackk819 said:
My email syncs every 10 minutes, and my weather syncs as soon as it can. (not sure how many minutes). My facebook updates pretty often. And I have news updating as well.
My phone is also NOT rooted.
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I highly doubt this is possible especially on the stock battey. I personally know there is no way to have all those apps syncing at those frequencies on the stock battery and still get MORE than 9 hours of use. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783364
Unless you turned off your phone somewhere in that timeline and are not telling that bit of info. With the sync frequency you just gave, I seriously doubt your battery numbers are even the correct ones you're giving.
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I highly doubt this is possible especially on the stock battey. I personally know there is no way to have all those apps syncing at those frequencies on the stock battery and still get MORE than 9 hours of use. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783364
Unless you turned off your phone somewhere in that timeline and are not telling that bit of info. With the sync frequency you just gave, I seriously doubt your battery numbers are even the correct ones you're giving.
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Well I am not goanna argue about it. It is what it is.
I'd like to see a screen shot of these 20 hours myself
HTC EVO4G A.K.A. Usain Bolt
Linpack: 34-35 MFLOPS Avg
Quadrant: 1500+
Kernel: King's #6 BFS
FPS2D: 54-55 FPS
ROM: Fresh 3.3
PRI: 1.77
Still goin, im at 31%
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Still goin, im at 31%
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Still doubt especially with no screenshoots of awake/uptime and system load.
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Still doubt especially with no screenshoots of awake/uptime and system load.
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It says up time
48:28
Awake time
15:54
Just found this!
23h 15m since unplug
standby 39%
idle 35%
Android system 11%
Display 7%
SMS 4%
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It says up time
48:28
Awake time
15:54
Not sure what they mean.
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According to that, it says your phone has been powered on for 48 minutes and used for 15 minutes. Go back and check the link I gave in my first response and look at the screenshot most people would want to see.
EDIT: Saw your edit and your phone has been in standby most of the time. I personally am not impressed by standby times. But if that's what floats your boat then so be it. I personally have gotten 10 hours of CONSTANT use on the stock battery with apps syncing every hour and get 1.5 days normal use on my extended batteries.
i was able to get 7 days battery life with minimal usage as a simple phone:
http://edsandroid.blogspot.com/2010/10/7-days-battery-potential.html
I got 9 hours out of myn and for 7 I played music, i 5 of the 7 was listening to music on my sd card. The other 2 was streaming pandora, I was proud of the evo. Lol
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proloss said:
i was able to get 7 days battery life with minimal usage as a simple phone:
http://edsandroid.blogspot.com/2010/10/7-days-battery-potential.html
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Where's the fun in that? Standby most of the time except for phone calls! You overpayed if all you wanted was a simple phone.
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I got 9 hours out of myn and for 7 I played music, i 5 of the 7 was listening to music on my sd card. The other 2 was streaming pandora, I was proud of the evo. Lol
Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
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Those are reasonable numbers and I have gotten that same use out of the stock battery. This phone is a joy to play with rather than letting it sleep all the time.
my lastest its not stock but ill take it before i recharged i was 10 mins short of 20 hours
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8708182&postcount=48
Yeah, I have gotten a whole 24 hours out of myn, but that was when it was new with little on it , and its first root and rom.
Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
I know that people talk about losing the first 10% in like 10 minutes, but has anyone ever noticed how long it takes to lose the last 10% of the battery? That sht is frustrating, going from 90 to 70 for me takes only about an hour, but the last 10% for me can carry me another 3 hours or so. My battery is teasing me.
I'm hitting 41 hours and still have 19% battery life. I noticed it took around 10 full charges before my phone started to get this great battery life. I've been using it as normal and even listened to howard stern for a couple of hours yesterday. Talked on the phone a bunch of times around 30 texts and even used my 4g for a few minutes. I've never had an andorid phone last this long for me even when I had my Optimus S which I thought was awesome.
Anyone else getting this awesome battery life? I'll post screen shots when its about dead as I dont want to plug the phone into usb to get the pics.
Charging twice a day here. Its worse than my hero.
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Zardos66 said:
Charging twice a day here. Its worse than my hero.
Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.
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I would investigate as that shouldnt be. My shift lasts almost 2.5x my hero. I bet if I had your phone in front of my I could find out whats killing it soo fast.
Is your phone getting hot? I would do a full system wipe and start over from scratch and see if it doesnt get better after you try the things I've listed below. Note, I didnt have this great of battery life until 6 days after I purchased the phone and charged and discharged numerous times. The first few days the battery life was not good at all.
A little list of things to do, check and or disable;
1. Use spare parts and find out whats killing your battery ie partial wake usage, cpu etc.
2. Turn your window animations from all to only some animations
3. Turn off automatic display and keep it around 20-30%
4. I have auto sync off on all my appz (E-mail, Gmail, Facebook etc.). I update my E-mail and such manually.
5. Turn off data when not using it. I find data accounts for around 15-25% of juice used and thats just when on idle.
6. Only use widgets on the homescreen if you really have to (Running widgets use a lot of power over time)
7. Use Android Hackers tool from the market and it will break down how long your cpu was in a certain state. ie my cpu spent 65% at 245mhz and 28% at 806mhz.
8. Keep off 4G, Bluetooth, wirless networks for location and GPS if not using it (GPS uses less power than wireless networks and is more accurate anyway) I assigned Quick Settings to open when I hold down the search button. That makes it easy to enable/disable any of these setting within seconds.
9. Turn off google talk and make sure it doesnt sign in automatically (most people dont realise this)
10. Turn screen timeout to 15 or 30 seconds (if longer your phone can keep the display on accidentally while in your pocket if a button is pressed, wasting power)
11. Dont use a task killer unless its to kill an app you know drains your battery and therefore must be closed to save juice
12. Check your apps. Some apps keep using cpu etc because they were not programed correctly. (some appz I've found to drain my battery are; Yahoo Mail, Craigslist, AndTorrent and the market if a download is hung up. There are a few others I cant remember off the top of my head) If your phone is getting hot for no apparent reason this may be the cause.
13. Calibrate your battery by bump charging (charge your phone till its full while on, turn it off and charge till its full again. Then bump charge it around 5-7 times) Wipe battery stats if applicable. If you have a car charger, plug your phone in on the way to work to account for the little bit of drain that occurs once the phone is fully charged yet still on the charger.
Remember you can get china made batteries for very cheap. I paid $12 for 2 batteries and a wall charger off ebay. This phone uses the same batteries as the Hero and Evo by the way.
fifedogg said:
I would investigate as that shouldnt be. My shift lasts almost 2.5x my hero. I bet if I had your phone in front of my I could find out whats killing it soo fast.
I noticed Yahoo mail and Craigs list apps I downloaded from the market have a memory/cpu leak that kills your phone super fast.
Is your phone getting hot? I would do a full system wipe and start over from scratch and see if it doesnt get better. Note to that I didnt have this great of battery life until 6 days after I purchased the phone. The first few days the battery life was not good at all.
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yahoo mail DESTROYED my battery life on my hero so i havent used it in forever...sad to see it still had that problem....also I stopped using any battery widgets that show the exact percentage (as these are usually wrong anyway) and went back to using stock browser (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)....i now check my battery through the settings....I was having varying battery life but after recalibrating by letting it die all the way then charging it up full i most recently got like 30 hours off the charger with moderate use and got down to 10%....coulda probably squeezed out a few more hours too if i left it idle....not too bad
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yahoo mail DESTROYED my battery life on my hero so i havent used it in forever...sad to see it still had that problem....also I stopped using any battery widgets that show the exact percentage (as these are usually wrong anyway) and went back to using stock browser (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)....i now check my battery through the settings....I was having varying battery life but after recalibrating by letting it die all the way then charging it up full i most recently got like 30 hours off the charger with moderate use and got down to 10%....coulda probably squeezed out a few more hours too if i left it idle....not too bad
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I find that Battery indicator doesnt draw much power if any as I've always used it and never had a problem. The maker of the app states it uses no extra power. I love the circular battery indicator version found in the market. Its not a widget, it stays in the upper left corner of your notification bar. You should give it a try.
Phone doesn't get hot. I've started from scratch twice, I've ##DATA# reset. I had terrible service and data speeds before I did that and it did a number on my battery. Now it'd fine, but it just drains while doing nothing.
I never use task killers or auto sync, I live with spare parts and and monitor it, no real partial wake usage to speak of. I know how to save battery, my hero get 20+ hours with use and auto-sync on.
I'm thinking my battery might be bad. Feels like your talking down to me too, captain.
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I haven't had mine a week yet, but atm I'm not getting half the battery life I did outta my Hero running AOSP's Gingerbread alpha.
I'm blaming the crap bloat that's part of the stock ROM.
With the display set to 15-20% I've got the display accounting for 69% of the battery usage. :/
Turning off sync is not an option and I feel defeats the purpose of a smart phone. Additionally, I fail to see the point in paying for 4G and not using it. (I do turn it off if I'm out of area for it or don't expect to be using much data.)
So thus far I'm disappointed in the battery life... but still think it'll improve vastly once rooted and cleaned up.
EDIT: Just did a test running Angry Birds for about 10 minutes... maybe 15. It ate up 9% of the battery in that time. Added another 1% to the display usage.
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Phone doesn't get hot. I've started from scratch twice, I've ##DATA# reset. I had terrible service and data speeds before I did that and it did a number on my battery. Now it'd fine, but it just drains while doing nothing.
I never use task killers or auto sync, I live with spare parts and and monitor it, no real partial wake usage to speak of. I know how to save battery, my hero get 20+ hours with use and auto-sync on.
I'm thinking my battery might be bad. Feels like your talking down to me too, captain.
Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.
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I'm just trying to give advice so that other people understand what to do to get the most out of the battery. This wasnt meant to be just directed to you. Sorry for trying to help you out, Captain.
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... (Miren browser, while I really liked it, was eating my...)...
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Miren's latest update last week is supposed to have "reduced battery usage". I've had no problems. Maybe time to come back to the Light..?
I was able to hit the 48 hour mark with light use.
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I was able to hit the 48 hour mark with light use.
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hey that's really impressive. I thought my 20 hours battery life was pretty good...kudos to you.
def getting better bat supply. especially from my hero which only lasted about 6-8 hours, just got my shift yesterday afternoon. from a full charge: Constant texting, facebook, Zenonia 2 (Downloaded wifi), Snes emu + 11 roms (3G), and customizing it to my hearts content. almost 12 hrs later had 20% until i plugged it up at work.
so far this thing is a golden brick to me
Just out of curiosity, how do you calibrate the battery? Just in case my battery life doesn't match the reports (I know my luck )
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Just out of curiosity, how do you calibrate the battery? Just in case my battery life doesn't match the reports (I know my luck )
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Its under # 13 on my 3rd post.
getting great battery life isn't that surprising given you've got a 1500mah battery much like the evo and epic however 48 hours is rather impressive.
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Working on calibrating my wifes battery and damn this thing is hard to kill. Even with with everything running for 5 hours its still over 20% finally decided to bring out the big guns. Turned on navigation and the flashlight. I'll post when I see the battery life after calibration.
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Edit: Phone plugged in at 7:53pm PST. Now to see how long it takes to charge.
Edit #2: Phone finally fully charged almost an hour after my evo finished its 0 to 100 at 12:19am
Edit #3: Holy F***. This phone takes forever to die and to die. Finally on the second off charge. I wouldn't still be doing this but for the fact that its saturday.
Hey guys,
Just created this thread so we could all have our battery life info in once place and keep the dev thread from getting cluttered.
Please post the following info:
1. Standard or Fully Loaded version
2. Total hours unplugged and percentage
3. Details (percentage and time) for each service
4. And any pertinent details such as apps used (juice defender), or extended batterys
Also, please don't forget to calibrate, airplane bug fix, and kill that drm.
Ex. (will edit with final time)
1. Loaded
2. Total - 8h50m @66%
3.
Display - 55m 78%
Cell standby - 8h50m 9%
Wifi - 6h40m 7%
Phone idle - 7h54m 4%
Voice - 1m 3%
4. Juice defender, setcpu @ 100/1000
Ideally we want to wait for a full drain to post stats but this is just an example. Thx guys looking forward to seeing what you all are getting.
Just installed it will get back to you in a couple of days after recalibrating my battery.
Btw, i hear Juice defender does more harm than good...
bighuta said:
Just installed it will get back to you in a couple of days after recalibrating my battery.
Btw, i hear Juice defender does more harm than good...
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Hm I'll have to test with it on and off. I use it because I get spotty service in my house and don't want it searching for signal all the time.
My explanation for for seeming disparity in battery results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11853400&postcount=1229
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My explanation for for seeming disparity in battery results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11853400&postcount=1229
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Interesting. I think you are right, we are essentialy minimizing out idle drain to a certain extent. However, even activily using my phone it drans slower than stock with this rom. My next run ill try and use it all day to see what I get.
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Interesting. I think you are right, we are essentialy minimizing out idle drain to a certain extent. However, even activily using my phone it drans slower than stock with this rom. My next run ill try and use it all day to see what I get.
I dont get 30 hours with heavy useage. I what to know what people think heavy usage is
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Battery drain
Hello everyone, noob here. I can't post in the development forum on this but it pertains to the battery and charge to a degree. Maybe someone here can help me in some sort of way.
I rooted and flashed the SyndicateROM Frozen yesterday, used it all day and never a hiccup. This thing is lightning fast and props to the dev's but here is the only issue I found. This morning after waking up I noticed the phone was stuck on the ACS android startup icon. I plugged in to charge last night and it's like it froze the phone when it reached full charge. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for any help that I receive.
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I rooted and flashed the SyndicateROM Frozen yesterday, used it all day and never a hiccup. This thing is lightning fast and props to the dev's but here is the only issue I found. This morning after waking up I noticed the phone was stuck on the ACS android startup icon. I plugged in to charge last night and it's like it froze the phone when it reached full charge. Anyone else experience this?
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I think I read in the dev thread that it's a known problem with the kernel? Or maybe it was the rom... or CWM? anyways the dev's know about it. Just don't charge your phone when it's off.
Battery for me seems to be a lot better than stock, but I'm always charging here and there... today I'll let it run without charging for 4-5 hours and I'll report back. Using a lot of setCPU profiles.
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Hello everyone, noob here. I can't post in the development forum on this but it pertains to the battery and charge to a degree. Maybe someone here can help me in some sort of way.
I rooted and flashed the SyndicateROM Frozen yesterday, used it all day and never a hiccup. This thing is lightning fast and props to the dev's but here is the only issue I found. This morning after waking up I noticed the phone was stuck on the ACS android startup icon. I plugged in to charge last night and it's like it froze the phone when it reached full charge. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for any help that I receive.
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Are you charging it with the power OFF? Lots of people were posting issues of freezing when charging with the battery off --- and I think the probs are related to CWM -- not the ROM. Only charge while the phone is on -- and you should not see problems.
I put on to charge with the power on last night because I had set the alarm to wake me up and it never did so that is when I noticed it. I don't think I've ever charged it with the power off, even when it was stock.
Maybe the dev's will come up with a fix sometime in the future. As for now, I'm happy as hell 'cause this ROM is great.
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I put on to charge with the power on last night because I had set the alarm to wake me up and it never did so that is when I noticed it. I don't think I've ever charged it with the power off, even when it was stock.
Maybe the dev's will come up with a fix sometime in the future. As for now, I'm happy as hell 'cause this ROM is great.
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Did this just happen once? If it doesn't happen over and over, I wouldn't consider it a bug. I have only heard of issues like you describe with the power off.
I'm looking at 12 hours on ACS Frozen on average. I haven't even gotten close to the rumored 30 hours with "heavy use" I think my use has been moderate. My battery use log only only lists display 98% and cell standby 2%. This confuses me. I do more than sit there staring at my homescreen.
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I'm looking at 12 hours on ACS Frozen on average. I haven't even gotten close to the rumored 30 hours with "heavy use" I think my use has been moderate. My battery use log only only lists display 98% and cell standby 2%. This confuses me. I do more than sit there staring at my homescreen.
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How you use your phone makes a difference and while 30h is possible, I don't see it happening with heavy use unless that is little display use. Below is my most recent "heavy use" run. Basically tried to use the phone all day, xda app, browsing, mainly wifi, 0% screen brightness.
1. Loaded
2. 8h7m @5%
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Display - 5h33m 95% <- serious display use which kills the phone quick
Wifi - 4h56m 2%
Cell standby - 8h7m 2%
Voice - 4m30s 2%
4. Setcpu @100/1000, juicedefender, 0% brightness
Pretty good considering the insane display usage. With normal use I get over 20h so that just shows how fast it kills your battery. Going to do an "extreme" run next to include heavy cpu use (play emulators all day haha).
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How you use your phone makes a difference and while 30h is possible, I don't see it happening with heavy use unless that is little display use. Below is my most recent "heavy use" run. Basically tried to use the phone all day, xda app, browsing, mainly wifi, 0% screen brightness.
1. Loaded
2. 8h7m @5%
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Display - 5h33m 95% <- serious display use which kills the phone quick
Wifi - 4h56m 2%
Cell standby - 8h7m 2%
Voice - 4m30s 2%
4. Setcpu @100/1000, juicedefender, 0% brightness
Pretty good considering the insane display usage. With normal use I get over 20h so that just shows how fast it kills your battery. Going to do an "extreme" run next to include heavy cpu use (play emulators all day haha).
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You did that with a standard battery? I haven't seen anyone post more than 4 hours of display "time on". That's impressive. Maybe I should try 0% brightness. I have mine at 25%. Are you on "Conservative" on SetCPU?
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I'm looking at 12 hours on ACS Frozen on average. I haven't even gotten close to the rumored 30 hours with "heavy use" I think my use has been moderate. My battery use log only only lists display 98% and cell standby 2%. This confuses me. I do more than sit there staring at my homescreen.
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The 98% means that 98% of your battery use is coming from the screen. Click on where is says 98% and look at see what the use details are (the "time on"). Generally, most people are getting less than 4 hours of display time on with a single charge. The explanation is that some people stretch 4 hours of display time over 30 hours of use. In other words, the people who are getting 30 hours of use only have their screen on 10 - 15% of the time (or less).
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You did that with a standard battery? I haven't seen anyone post more than 4 hours of display "time on". That's impressive. Maybe I should try 0% brightness. I have mine at 25%. Are you on "Conservative" on SetCPU?
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Yes, using the standard battery. Setcpu is on conservative. I always use 0% as it looks great (kick it up tp 25-50% outside). I think I was able to get that long of display use due to minimizing cpu usage and other services. All I did is browse in dolphin and use xda app. And, that was pretty much all on wifi. Only change was the hour I was at the dog park on 3g and I recorded a 5 min video.
I bet my gaming session tomorrow will kick it down to ~4 hours
With phone calls, texting, and music player, I average between 16-18hrs. If I start to web browse or watch videos then about 8-12hrs. Very impressed with this ROM to say the least.
1. Standard
2. 31 @ 5%
3. don't have that it was yesterday
4. standard battery, auto brightness, overclocked to 1.2, wifi on when I was at home and 3g at work.
I calibrated the day after froyo dropped. I didn't do the airplane thing and I thought drm was not in this rom. So in other words I didn't do any fancy stuff.
I will note today I tried 1ghz (which is undervolted) with 4G on all day (I have a repeter on my roof at work) and after 14.5 hours I am at 30% with about the same concistancy of usage as yesterday.
Edit: I only have 1 gmail syncing right now. We will see if I get these magical numbers when I put my other 2 gmail accounts and my 3 actice sync exchange accounts on Monday.
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I'm getting mixed battery life. The first day on the rom/kernel I dropped down to 79% in 9 hours, with medium use (no web browsing). I was getting 1% drop every 1-2hrs, and thought it was amazing. Today I tried to be really conservative and didn't use it at all and it dropped 4-5% every hour WHILE IDLE.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem? It seems to happen after a reboot to be honest.
NOTE: If I disable data network mode, battery life is amazing,
I'm not sure about my battery life. I charge mine differently than the average person though. I charge it at work and leave it in my desk, because I use it a lot during my lunch break or whenever I get any downtime. When I get home it's usually at about 70%, and it remains unplugged until the next day. I used to have to charge it at home and at work.