FFC Accessory? Limitations? - Fascinate General

I got to thinking. With all the development with the Vibrant getting a modded camera and the new app called Tango that lets you do FaceTime like calling...
what technical/software challenges do we face with trying to develop an accessory that plugs in through the USB and audio jack that we could use as an FFC?
I hear that we can do video out on our phone with 2.2, why not do video in?

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Audio in possible?

Would it be possible to use the streak as a recording device using the 3.5 jack as an audio in? It can receive the audio during a call with a wired headset, would it be possible to have a cable that plugged into the audio out on, say, my minidisc player and then into the streak which would then record as mp3.
Maybe it wouldn't be good enough sound quality, maybe it just couldn't be done, I don't know, anyone here have any ideas?
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I'd say it's unlikely.
however I've read that the streak has usb host capability - if that gets sorted out then perhaps audio-in via usb would be possible - and totally frickin awesome! I'd be able to use my micportpro xlr with my pro mics .... the dell streak as a digital field recorder? now that is exciting if doable .... !
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There are apps that can record a phone call, even using a wired headset so if you can trick the phone into thinking it's in 'headset' mode then perhaps it would be possible.
But like you said, i can't imagine the quality would be very good
miker71 said:
the dell streak as a digital field recorder? now that is exciting if doable .... !
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Holy christ, that would be awesome. Sneak in the streak and a small mic into a gig and record the whole thing! Now that would be fun
Just to add, audio quality will be dropped badly, if you manage to find an app that can record straight to mp3. Also the mp3 will probably be recorded in less than 112kbps because it will have to compress the audio almost real time, unless you record in AMR format which is pretty much like listening music tru a tuna can if you know what I mean.

[Q] does hd2 have a front camera for 3g video calling?

hi friends...
i was wondering whether hd2 has a front camera...when i was looking at the specification of hd2...it was given that it does not have a front camera.but 3g calling is possible in hd2...but actuallly 3g video callling must neeed a front camera right?
then how cum its posssible to do a 3g video callling without a front camera?
any sugestion?
i have installed android gingerbread 2.3.2 in hd2..
vishnu
The hd2 does not have a front facing camera, I guess technically if you had ANY camera and 3g it should be possible to do video calling although you would not be able to see yourself or the other person so there really wouldn't really be a reason for it. Also as of now there is no ROM that even has the option of doing video calls that's including the few mytouch 4g ports.
Can't you just look at your HD2 and see there's no camera? Haha.
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What?... you CAN make video call using the right software.... "Tango" free on the market for one works quite well on wifi...
Small disadvantage... you have to share the time between "viewing your friend " and "sending them your stream""
That would not be a true video call and its using wi-fi not the phones data service
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kitty(senior member)
if i am not mistaken i am talking about the front camera
i wish hd2 has a ffc
I don't see any, but it would be a nice to have
It does not have a Front Facing Camera.
HTC phones have had FFC for years before the first iphone was made. It was very rarely used due to: cost of video calls, jerky video (due to network restraints), everyone around could hear your conversation and not wanting to be videoed while making a call.
Since it wasn't being used, I suspect that HTC thought it was a good idea to remove it and put better stuff in its place (compass, movement sensor, etc).
Then the Apple Marketing folk came along and showed how to sell video calling (but only among themselves). And it was good selling. They could only video call 5% of the mobile phone market (assuming that all their iphone, iphone3g and iphone3gs users would have to move on up to the iphone4) and only if both were connected through a WiFi network. That is so restrictive that only those who have joined the Apple Cult would fall for.
I had nokia 6630,i think it was the first phone to allow videocalling in the world ...This phone comes only with the back camera,and so nokia invented the "see what i see video calling feature" (as described in the manual),and an optional craddle with a front facing camera. Ahahaha
There is a clip on plastic periscope thingy available which uses mirrors to point the camera to the front, and then I assume the software flips the image vertically. ,, not seen one in action, but might be useful if vid calls are essential.
Hello , I don't know if youreally know what is a HD2 to claim it does not have a front facing camera. Didn't you ever use this feature with your phone when on Windows Mobile 6.5 ?
It's not because android can't propose it that it does not exist !
I used to use this often and it lacks now with android
Whatt???
Wich Hd2 are we talking about???
Even with WM6.5, Hd2 doesn't have a font camera, it's hardware.
And now, the roms android dedicated to the hd2 offer all that the Hd2 can do.
+1, there is no front camera.
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how can i video chat?

how do you video chat i just noticed that skype is only for calls and oovoo is not compatible...
I use the google talk app. IMO the video quality is better than Skype from my Macbook Pro. I've also heard that Gingerbread will support from a phone with front facing camera in a future update. Now the trick is just getting everyone I know to switch from Skype...
is oovoo going to release a version for honeycomb?
Anybody else notice low mic volume from the galaxy's end? Even when recording a video I can tell it's really quiet.
If Tango is available, might want to try it... You can video chat to all your punk iphone using friends! =)
Also used the Gtalk video and it works really pretty nicely. And is stupid user friendly
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Also used the Gtalk video and it works really pretty nicely. And is stupid user friendly
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How was your mic volume level? I need to know to make sure it's not just my unit that's crazy quiet.

[Q] External Microphone

I'd like to do some audio recording (as well as get better audio when recording video) but can't tell what will work with my Nexus 4.
Will the iPhone mics work?
http://www.amazon.com/Multimedia-IP-IRIG-CAST--Ultra-Compact-Microphone-iPhone/dp/B007517AKK/
Will basic lapel mics work?
http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-3-5mm-Hands-Computer-Microphone/dp/B005DJOIHE/
Any help would be fantastic!
That depends on app availability rather than hardware. The Nexus 4 3.5 mm port uses the same configuration as the iPhone, so hardware wise there's no reason why iphone mics wouldn't work.

Shooting a Documentary with a Galaxy Camera

Hello everyone!
I'm Ragnalt, a content creator and lately a documentary / film maker.
I bought the Samsung Galaxy GC100 months ago, because I figured as a novice wanting to get into audio and video production, I could probably get the most bang for my buck with a Camera that was also a phone ( sort of), and that was built on top of android, a very hackable OS (or so I hear).
Well, I've been running on this fantasy for a while and time has come to put it to the test.
I have a small budged for this documentary and I want to get the best audio and video quality. The camera is solid enough on its own, but there are a few things I need it to do for me that the native Android OS does not seem to support (correct me if I'm wrong?).
I need this camera to:
Record audio from an External USB Mic, probably connecter through an OTG cable, similar to or using this app "USB Audio Recorder PRO" . Currently this does not work under native android, because I need to keep it running while I film and once I switch to the camera app, android kills the recording app, or it just goes to sleep for some reason. Developers of the app told me that "backgrounded apps only get 5% cpu time at maximum (or get killed by Android, it depends), so this won't work unfortunately", please tell me there's a way to get around this in a rooted device?.
Manipulare camera light intake and other advanced features during video filming. It is possible while taking pictures, why not with video? (Optional)
Improve my experience of the GC100 in any other awesome ways that I'm not even aware of.
I admit I am a noob at android rooting and hacking, though I am decently savvy in terms of tech and the workings of the interwebs, software and hardware. A jack of all traits if you will, an expert at none. I'm also a very fast learner.
So assuming people actually roam this very esoteric corner of the epic XDA forums, then I look forward to peppering you with questions, reporting on my progress and in general having fun and learning a lot from other Samsung Galaxy content creators and enthusiasts.
I need to:
Figure out if there's a reasonable path to success down this very custom road.
Root my device, and start modifying it until awesomeness can occur.
Anyways, If anyone reads this and have any suggestions or questions, please shoot. I look forward to meeting people and making this happen.
Cheers!
Ragnalt
I use my GC2 to record video at my two sons' band concerts (where audio is really important) all the time. I also use a Panasonic Lumix FZ200 at the same time so later when I'm editing the footage I can switch back and forth to make it look all fancy (haha). Anyway, I use a knock-off Rode style shotgun mic that just plugs right into the headphone port -- works like a charm. I wouldn't even bother with the USB mic solution when the headphone port supports shotgun mics, boom mikes, even wireless lapel mics.
Frankly, I wouldn't root it. This device doesn't have much (in other words, ANY) support from the developer community , so you're pretty much on your own. Because of that rooting really isn't going to get you any new features/options that you don't already have out to the box. FYI, this is coming from someone who has rooted (and usually flashed custom ROMs) on every single other Android device that my family owns (phones, tablets, eReaders, etc.).
Hey I love hearing about people using this great camera in creative and different ways. I love my Galaxy Camera 1. Like internetpilot said though there really isn't much development action going on for the GC 1. But there are plenty of commercial apps that require root that are beneficial to have for any android device. Getting root isn't too difficult. I used Skipsoft's unified android toolkit found here:
http://www.skipsoft.net/?page_id=1197
As far as your mic issue you should consider using a mic that connects into the headphone jack to record directly with the video. I haven't done it myself but there are a couple of videos on Youtube that show examples of shotgun mics and lapel mics being used with the GC 1. You'd need an adapter for the audio signal like the one found here:
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-iphone-mic.htm
Hey guys, filming is going well. Any suggestions on apps that can give me more control during video rec?
I remember there one was that was very sophisticated, it was neither filmic pro nor FV-5
Tho FV-5 does work for me. Trying to get a copy of filmic pro to test it on my phone but cant find a free copy, even a trial version anywhere. I've emailed them to see.
Update on testing out apps.
So, some updates. I've been trying out filming apps and to my surprise, there's very few options.
FV-5 is so far the best, but its got a few bugs (free version), such as not recording audio at times. Big problem, it seems the audio monitor works fine with my microphone setup until I hit record.
It works with a headset fine it seems, but not when I use my usual mic setup which includes a custom cable to connect lapel and hand held mics. These work with the default camera app just fine, with the exception of not being able to be compleitely certain that audio is recording. Aka, doing audio monitoring live.
Which is what FV-5 has but is not working properly, and which is what I'm trying to hunt down.
After that I've tried almost every camera app out there and most are for photography only and not for film. Still have a few options to try, so I'll update then.
Filmic pro seems like the best app out there, but they only officially support cameras with camera2 api and running lollipop.
A soon to be released android version by Filmic pro, will support pre camera2 api phones, but it is currently in beta.
They tell me that if I can get lollipop running on my gc100 then they'll let me test out their beta.
So That's what im aiming for now. I made a post in general to discuss that.
Any suggestions for doing audio monitoring while filming?
Thanks!

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