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SNAP Network Differences? Any?

Hey guys... Are there any significant differences between the different GSM versions of the SNAP? I know USA uses 1900MHz 3G but UK uses 2100MHz. Do all the versions have the capability to use ANY band?
I don't want to be stuck with a 2100MHz phone in USA. Are S521 and S522 virtually the same?
Anyone know?

A far as I know, I've never seen a phone that can support both. You need to wait for the US version to use the US 3g.

phuKKah said:
A far as I know, I've never seen a phone that can support both. You need to wait for the US version to use the US 3g.
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Yea, i ended up getting my Dash 3G this past weekend. I got it 2 days after the ROM date on it. Haha! Now to start cooking...

Two questions about the new Dash:
1. Is the battery removable? I have the extended battery on my Dash but it looks like the back is one piece on the Snap, so I doubt you can use it, but I'd still like to get a larger battery for a Snap.
2. Can you use the T-Zones hack?
Thanks,
Marc
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Yea, i ended up getting my Dash 3G this past weekend. I got it 2 days after the ROM date on it. Haha! Now to start cooking...
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the back on the snap/dash3g is one whole piece, but the standard battery for it is 1500mAh and it surely is removable ... I know that with my original dash, the extended 1500mAh battery is huge and required a new cover.
I'm still slightly on the fence about the 3G mainly because I'm still adjusting to the offset keyboard vs. the straight line of the original, and the scroll ball is still throwing me off on internet use.
I hope that there is an option to resume Internet Explorer sessions if I exit out, because currently when I exit out of IE, and pull it up again, it starts a full new session which kind of sucks if I'm browsing and need to send a txt or make a note of something.
other than that, I really enjoy the phone thus far, though I've only had mine a few hours.

see i'm actually looking FORWARD to it and I really like the fact that t-mobile is the only carrier who's phone are offset like an actual keyboard(I currently own a g1 which has the offset keyboard). Everyone else's phones are straight line keyboards. That's not a deal breaker but coming from a G1(persona phone) to a Fuze(work phone) I can't really get used to it. I still get thrown off.

so i have the Ozone..which is verizon's version of it and to be honest the off set everyone describes isnt that bad. yea ill admit it, ive missed the space bar a couple times, but like everything else it just takes some getting used too. But heres a pic of what they all look liked lined up against one another :
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lp894 said:
see i'm actually looking FORWARD to it and I really like the fact that t-mobile is the only carrier who's phone are offset like an actual keyboard(I currently own a g1 which has the offset keyboard). Everyone else's phones are straight line keyboards. That's not a deal breaker but coming from a G1(persona phone) to a Fuze(work phone) I can't really get used to it. I still get thrown off.
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I think they're different devices. The Dash3G and HTC branded SNAP are HTC MAPLE and The Sprint and Verizon versions are HTC WILLOW- CDMA only. Means hardware and ROMS will probably be different as well...

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I think they're different devices. The Dash3G and HTC branded SNAP are HTC MAPLE and The Sprint and Verizon versions are HTC WILLOW- CDMA only. Means hardware and ROMS will probably be different as well...
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so does that mean that ur not gonna be able to do a rom for the verizon version?
or u will and ur just clarifying?

SoCalSpecialist said:
so does that mean that ur not gonna be able to do a rom for the verizon version?
or u will and ur just clarifying?
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I will need to get my hands on a Verizon and Sprint Version to do some R&D but I should be able to...

X2 Announced

The Xperia X2 was announced officially just a few minutes ago.
Here's some links I took from google news
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=34372
http://www.informationweek.com/blog...l;jsessionid=0ZXMTBGOXVNZPQE1GHPCKH4ATMY32JVN
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- Windows Mobile 6.5
- 110 megs internal storage, SDHC microSD card slot
-3.2" touch screen running at 800 x 480 resolution
- claimed talk time on GSM: 10 hours, claimed talk time on 3G: 6 hours
- networks/bands: 2 quad band GSM Eurasian versions listed, one with 3G HSDPA on the 850/1900/2100MHz band and another with 900/1900/2100MHz.
- network bands for the Xperia X2a: quad band GSM and 3G on the 850/1900/2100MHz bands.

They have added a motion sensor, and a youtube app too.

I dont get it!!
why would any x1 owner want to replace it with this? it has the exact spec
and its uglier!!
not to mention that x2 probably wont have xda support

More videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA8BQod9AiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CagMzo03Myo

What are the specs?

heartwarmer said:
I dont get it!!
why would any x1 owner want to replace it with this? it has the exact spec
and its uglier!!
not to mention that x2 probably wont have xda support
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I agree. The case will probably crack .
iPhone 3gs or samsung omnia pro it is then...

they better not ask 750 bucks for it out the door.. not with the same outdated procesor... ****in milkin it for all she's worth.... i smell a boycott... <disgrunted se customer

omg... i don't want it... the screen 3.2" is still too small (for me)... and why don't i buy the prettier X1 but the uglier & (likely to be) more expensive X2 ???

i thought it looked quite nice.lol. can never tell from just pictures anyway. ill reserve judgement for when i see one in the flesh. id imagine its like when they went from the p900 to p910. where they didnt really change the specs much but improved on a lot of the bugs and usuability. im hoping they sorted the keyboard issue and the terrible reception...

I thought it looked nice. The camera is better, and what does it for me is the fact that it gains tv-out.
Where does it say it is using the same processor?

another vid here
http://www.youtube.com/user/sonyericssonworld#play/uploads/1/llk8fS0BkaE
looks like much more solid than the x1, also its got a flush screen and the led has moved to the top rather than 2 on each side which is dissapointing. was hoping they had kept the illuminations and mayb added a user editor this time around.
very nice user interface but i wouldnt be surprised if someone manages to figure out a way to flash it to the X1
dont like the sound of this though..
"It comes with a 4GB microSD card (Sony Ericsson has clearly given up on M2) and will ship in October, likely when the first Windows Mobile 6.5 devices appear, exclusively with Vodafone in the UK. "
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ny-ericsson-finally-launches-xperia-x2-631224

I wish our great cookers gonna steal some stuff from x2 like PanelManager and some new panels. On second video we can see that performance is quite bad, normal honeycomb menu is very choppy. I think it's waste of money when the same stuff we can have on our x1

anothadave said:
another vid here
http://www.youtube.com/user/sonyericssonworld#play/uploads/1/llk8fS0BkaE
looks like much more solid than the x1, also its got a flush screen and the led has moved to the top rather than 2 on each side which is dissapointing. was hoping they had kept the illuminations and mayb added a user editor this time around.
very nice user interface but i wouldnt be surprised if someone manages to figure out a way to flash it to the X1
dont like the sound of this though..
"It comes with a 4GB microSD card (Sony Ericsson has clearly given up on M2) and will ship in October, likely when the first Windows Mobile 6.5 devices appear, exclusively with Vodafone in the UK. "
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ny-ericsson-finally-launches-xperia-x2-631224
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Hope we can still get it in October..... >.<

im not gona hold my breath for an october release but i hope its out before christmas. one advantage to it using quite a bit of the same tech as the X1 is that sony should be able to release it much quicker than the X1.
anyone know if its still got the optical touchpad?

Cheeze[iT] said:
I thought it looked nice. The camera is better, and what does it for me is the fact that it gains tv-out.
Where does it say it is using the same processor?
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Totally agree with you!
Up to me, the design is better than the X1!!!
Please read here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2_gets_official_holds_no_surprises-news-1101.php
it clearly states "processor remains unknown" so where you guys are getting infos about processor speed?

pff ... im so NOT going to buy it. my next phone will be an android for sure.
BUT ... i realy like to get my hands on the ROM. the new panelmanager seems nice and this new panel also some ... style

[email protected] said:
Totally agree with you!
it clearly states "processor remains unknown" so where you guys are getting infos about processor speed?
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SE-First.com reports that it has the same processor.

well they can go to hell if it's the same CPU, f*ck them.

how Gille1, very interesting comment ...

hope it got an better cpu. heared it got 512 mb ram?
but it has a lot of advantages: 8.1mp camera, motion sensor, tv-out, bigger screen, stereo-speakers. not exactly the x1, right?

Touch HD2 w hardware keyboard

what do you think?
will it come out?
will there be same specs?
would you like it? I would

probably, maybe we'll see a big lineup leak next year.
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keep dreaming
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feeltch said:
what do you think?
will it come out?
will there be same specs?
would you like it? I would
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I've been having excellence experience with Touch HD without hard keyboard. It is absolutely working for me and I type as fast most of the time compare to pc keyboards. And HD2 has faster processor, even bigger display size and capacitive screen. Do we really need to bother a hard keyboard which add bulkiness?

Typing with the on-screen keyboard is not a problem at all for me, but since I like playing games - a hardware keyboard of some sort is a must have. Unfortunately, there is a lack of games for WinMo and this is the only reason I own iPhone. A device from HTC with at least 4" sreen, hardware keyboard with D-pad and WinMo7 would be perfect, it could be the perfect mobile gaming device as well. Ahh... dreams.

A QWERTY version of the Leo is very likely to come out and, yes, it'll probably have the same specs, if not better. This is just a guess, but HTC is probably going to make it in the form of the Touch Pro 3.

8525Smart said:
A QWERTY version of the Leo is very likely to come out and, yes, it'll probably have the same specs, if not better. This is just a guess, but HTC is probably going to make it in the form of the Touch Pro 3.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is a device that has the same relationship to the HD2 as the Touch Pro2 has to the Touch HD; but I wouldn't expect to see such a device for 6 or 7 months yet.

Shasarak said:
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a device that has the same relationship to the HD2 as the Touch Pro2 has to the Touch HD; but I wouldn't expect to see such a device for 6 or 7 months yet.
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Yes HTC usually update the models every 12 months, i.e.
Touch HD ---> HD2
Touch pro --> Touch Pro2
I currently have a Touch Pro2 and really hope there is a version 3 in the making and if it is then probably have to wait till the end of Q2 of 2010 for it.

billu said:
Yes HTC usually update the models every 12 months, i.e.
Touch HD ---> HD2
Touch pro --> Touch Pro2
I currently have a Touch Pro2 and really hope there is a version 3 in the making and if it is then probably have to wait till the end of Q2 of 2010 for it.
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For us across the pond probably 1q 2011 unless by the grace of some higher deity it has a quad 3g radio....

10332007 said:
For us across the pond probably 1q 2011 unless by the grace of some higher deity it has a quad 3g radio....
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My TP2 has four GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and five UMTS bands (800/850/900/1900/2100) - so it's not impossible.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585115

Shasarak said:
My TP2 has four GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and five UMTS bands (800/850/900/1900/2100) - so it's not impossible.
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Hmm, I'll keep on dreaming then, hopefully the specs are like that but usually my luck fails lol.

Will a unlocked evo work for tmobile?

Will a unlocked evo work for tmobile?

T-Mobile uses the GSM radio system...EVO uses the CDMA radio system. No-can-do-ski!

Dam, t-mobile needs a phone like the evo asap

I'm pretty sure the HTC HD2 for T-Mobile is very similar to the Evo. You can even put Android 2.2 on it afaik.

coldsweat said:
I'm pretty sure the HTC HD2 for T-Mobile is very similar to the Evo. You can even put Android 2.2 on it afaik.
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seriously, the hardware is almost identical. It's practically a GSM evo lol, or more like the EVO is a cdma HD2

carlost24 said:
Will a unlocked evo work for tmobile?
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no not unless t-mo gets cdma

Jbcarrera said:
no not unless t-mo gets cdma
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or Sprint and T-Mo Merge FTW

carlost24 said:
Dam, t-mobile needs a phone like the evo asap
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Purchase the Nexus S or MyTouch 4G.

Nexus s isn't available, and I don't like the my touch 4g to commercial to much bloat I'm looking for vanilla android experience or sense the evo was prefect also would like a 4.3 screen and front facing camera, was going for the DHD but it doesn't work in the states

The only differences between the evo and the hd2 that I can think of are:
The evo has hdmi out, 4g of course, an 8mp camera compared to 5, a kick stand, and uses cdma. I'm sure there are more differences.

carlost24 said:
Nexus s isn't available, and I don't like the my touch 4g to commercial to much bloat I'm looking for vanilla android experience or sense the evo was prefect also would like a 4.3 screen and front facing camera, was going for the DHD but it doesn't work in the states
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Root that dam thing And the G2 is sexy
from my phone duh

carlost24 said:
Nexus s isn't available, and I don't like the my touch 4g to commercial to much bloat I'm looking for vanilla android experience or sense the evo was prefect also would like a 4.3 screen and front facing camera, was going for the DHD but it doesn't work in the states
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The Nexus S will be out in 2 weeks. Just wait. It will be a much better phone than the EVO.

kpoz said:
The Nexus S will be out in 2 weeks. Just wait. It will be a much better phone than the EVO.
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Its made by Samsung, so I wouldn't say its gonna be a better phone yet. With Sammy phones the paper specs always look nice but in real world use the phone will be an epic fail. I've deal with it several times. Well just have to wait and see. Google should have just stayed with HTC IMO.

phatmanxxl said:
Google should have just stayed with HTC IMO.
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+1 on that!
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phatmanxxl said:
Its made by Samsung, so I wouldn't say its gonna be a better phone yet. With Sammy phones the paper specs always look nice but in real world use the phone will be an epic fail. I've deal with it several times. Well just have to wait and see. Google should have just stayed with HTC IMO.
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carlost24 said:
Nexus s isn't available, and I don't like the my touch 4g to commercial to much bloat I'm looking for vanilla android experience or sense the evo was prefect also would like a 4.3 screen and front facing camera, was going for the DHD but it doesn't work in the states
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Switch to Sprint.

AvatarOfFrost said:
Switch to Sprint.
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I went from GSM to CDMA (AT&T to Sprint). From T-Mobile, you'd be saving since you get free roaming on Verizon (which you can force with Roam Control).

Why didn't Google "stay" with T-Mobile?
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Photos of AT&T Galaxy S II with a slide out keyboard including benchmarks??

BGR has a new post that has photos of what they believe to be the AT&T version of Galaxy S II with a slide out keyboard. It also includes a couple of benchmarks; Linkpack and Quadrant. I can't believe that AT&T would do this... looks like I'm not getting the AT&T version...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/26/exclusive-images-of-atts-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-revealed/

oh my GOD thats ugly!! good thing i live in the UK, no carriers changing my device

Looks really ugly, it will just add to phone's thickness.. and even the camera looks weird in those photos!

Electricpig notes that the Linpack benchmark is about 18.6% higher than an unlocked Galaxy S II (58.544 MFLOPS vs 47.606 MFLOPS)... leading them to suspect that they bumped the CPU from 1.2 to 1.4. However, Quadrant doesn't seem to show much improvement (3056) but then again, Quadrant isn't the most consistent benchmark.
http://electricpig.co.uk/2011/07/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-slider-photographed-benchmarked-and-ready-for-prime-time/

is it just me or does the phone seem smaller than a international gs2 across the front of the screen? did they drop it down to 4"?

If Sprint also drastically changes the design then they have lost my purchase.

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is it just me or does the phone seem smaller than a international gs2 across the front of the screen? did they drop it down to 4"?
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Corporate users love keyboards. They are also a prime target for LTE. Going this route kind of makes sense if this is their first LTE phone launched. I'm glad I got the unbasterdized version. Remember, the Z/R got FCC approval on AT&T's bands too. Maybe they'll carry that one also as their more consumer oriented version.

i'm not convinced this is att's official (or only) sgs2. the layout is completely different: camera placement, bottom physical button for instance.

spanishfry said:
i'm not convinced this is att's official (or only) sgs2. the layout is completely different: camera placement, bottom physical button for instance.
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Does this...
Or this...
Look like this...
SGH-i897 is the model number for AT&T's SGS1 so the model number for whatever phone's in the first post uses the same naming convention. Last round, Sprint got the keyboard. This time it looks like it'll go to AT&T.

damn, you're right. our only hope is this is not AT&T's version.

My biggest concern is that AT&T will screw with it so much that we'll need special developers for it. I think I would lose my mind if I went to flash a super duper kernel and it blew up in my hands.

Thank goodness I got the unmolested version of this device. Leave it to US carriers to take something amazing then ruin it.

The horror.. The horror...

diomed said:
My biggest concern is that AT&T will screw with it so much that we'll need special developers for it. I think I would lose my mind if I went to flash a super duper kernel and it blew up in my hands.
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Even if they left the majority of the phone as-is, you'll never be able to flash international ROMs due to the different radio(s). I'm sure devs working on it will be able to re-use a lot of what's already been developed but the phone will be too different to share s/w with other versions.

I just got really dissapointed really quickly. Im fine with having four buttons but the slide out keyboard is almost the point of being useless

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Even if they left the majority of the phone as-is, you'll never be able to flash international ROMs due to the different radio(s). I'm sure devs working on it will be able to re-use a lot of what's already been developed but the phone will be too different to share s/w with other versions.
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that is entirely untrue...
The captivate for ATT can use international sgs 1 roms with a kernal that rotates the screen correctly the only difference is that the FM radio didn't work on the captivate as there was no FM radio.
ATT world phones use the same international frequencies as international phones. i currently have an internationall sgs2 and am using it with att with 4g.

keyboard not for me.... Good that I got the international sgs2
Also the Samsung galaxy R kinda looks nice and solid, even though lower specs and slightly thicker.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. Its like they didn't want to release a phone thinner than the iPhone and maybe this even dissolves them of being liable and possibly being sued for selling it as-is. I'm not trying to be a fandroid or anything but I can't help think the ongoing legal battles between samsung and Apple somehow effected the outcome ... disenchanted ... but still optimistic ... would be nice to get new dimensions and weight of this bastardizes phone.
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Big plus is that it's alegedly equipped to access Att LTE.
This data connection really has me teetering on selling it.