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The HTC TyTn (Orange M3100) will have a 400 Mhz processor. Does this mean that the whole system will operate considerably faster than the Wizard / Prophet, or is the 200 Mhz leap not as massive as it appears (different processor manufacturers)?
I love my Wizard, but it is quite sluggish sometimes and that really is my only criticism. (When sliding the keyboard, the rotating of the screen is really lethargic.)
Cheers

It all depends. I'm not sure on the processor in the Hermes, but it will make a major difference if its a dual-core design like the Wizard running at 400 Mhz versus a single core.
I trust HTC, and its definitely a worthy successor to the Wizard.
Hopefully there will be a way to overclock the Hermes, if it does run a bit poky.

Got my Tytn!
Hey Folks!
On the last weekend, I 've got my Tytn! In Germany it's the O2 Trion. My father has the Wizard and I have to say, that the Tytn is up to 4 times faster then the Wizard.
The 400 Mhz Samsung Prozessor is the fastest Prozessor I 've ever seen on a Windows Mobile Phone!

Bring on the M3100
Well, come on Orange, launch the M3100!!

the M3100 seems to be a different beast http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138474&tab=1
different keyboard
processor
miniSD??
AND PALM OS :roll:

@MrMarioG:
I have a few questions please
Do you have a feel for battery life yet?
Are you using Direct push?

Well, expansys is wrong again....
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3178#article

Sleuth255 said:
@MrMarioG:
I have a few questions please
Do you have a feel for battery life yet?
Are you using Direct push?
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Well, it's kind a hard to explain. Because you know, the first days you will use the device a little bit more as usual. The Battery has lost 45 % of Power after 3 days with factory charge. And I don't have a Storagecard yet. I don't use Direct Push, but use the WLAN module with full power. I also took some pictures with 2 MPixel. HTC has still not the quality of Nokia Phone Cameras but a Macro function integrated.
I only have one Problem so far. The Tytn loses the display calibration 3 times a day.

expansys has a completely different unit! I like the unwired picture best cosmetics of the Tytn so far me thinks....[/quote]

xdaer/Facedanzr: I was at the Modaco meeting. I have to say, the Hermes (or "Herpes" as it was lovingly called by everyone) is a great device - better build quality and feels more compact then the Wizard, but great spec, nice keyboard, wifi etc, 3G - squeeze in a VGA screen and it'd be pretty much perfect. It felt "adequately" fast to me; faster then the Wizard certainly, but I use a Mio A701 and Magician, so I'm used to fast.
A nice device, it'll do very well I'm sure.
However, I have to say, the Samsung was an amazing beast
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beautiful screen, best I've seen on any device - the photos can't do the quality justice. However, smartphone, so no touch screen
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@MrMarioG:
That's good news on the battery... sounds like it may be close to if not better than a wizard. Keep us posted plz as you get a better feel for it!
That's bad news about your digitizer tho.... hopefully its just a bad TyTN and not an indication of some inherent pblm...

Re: Got my Tytn!
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Hey Folks!
On the last weekend, I 've got my Tytn! In Germany it's the O2 Trion. My father has the Wizard and I have to say, that the Tytn is up to 4 times faster then the Wizard.
The 400 Mhz Samsung Prozessor is the fastest Prozessor I 've ever seen on a Windows Mobile Phone!
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MrMarioG, post some pictures of your O2 Trion! It looks lovely in the factory shots, I would love to see some personal shots. You'd be the 1st with some personal shots of the O2 Trion.

Well I took some pictures! I hope I could help so far!

Dood I'm jealous, really nice looking phone with a lot of features too! Thank you for taking your time to post up pictures of the phone!

As these babies starts arriving at the post office I suggest that someone creates a own TyTn Forum.

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Well I took some pictures! I hope I could help so far!
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fyi.. this is NOT the TyTN.. this is the O2 Xion XDA.
Same stuff under the hood yes.. but different casing and the keyboard is german, not english style.

Mario could you tell us how low UMTS signal is?

hmmm... at least AKU2.2. Note the clock in the title bar (its not AKU1 btw because this phone is advertised as being Direct Push capable). Could you give us a quick screenshot of the version tab in settings/about please? Also, what are your IPL/SPL revision numbers?

I bored of taking some pictures again!
But I can say, that I have the Aku 2.3 on my device. So says the Device Info in the Settings Menu!
@El_Mar1ach1
What do you meen with "how low UMTS signal is"? It depends on the location. Sometimes I have 3 bars and sometimes I don't have any UMTS Signal!
Maybe I can tell you on September what signal strength I have in Italy on Vodaphone, when I visit my italian aunt!

I'm jealous too... i'm gonna grab one probably in mid august. i like the HERM200 more than the HERM100(pictured in previous) and of what i know so far cingulars gonna be carrying the HERM100 so that means i have to start getting ready to fork over $900 for this beast!

Touch HD QWERTY SLIDE-OUT!! PICS!

UPDATE 2/14/09- HAHAHA!! I LAUGH AT THE VERY FIRST COMMENT POSTED!!!! IT SEEMS OUR DREAMS ARE COMING TRUE WITH THE NEW HTC MODELS LEAKED!!!!! So i guess all of our hard work and wishfull thinking has finally paid off. The only thing to really worry about now is whether HTC will hold true to the leaked hype and deliver to ATT a touch Hd variant with a full qwerty in true Iphone killer fashion. I WILL BE CHECKING ALL WEBSITES FOR ANY NEWS ON MOBILE WORLD CONGRESS '09 NEWS AND HTC-RELATED PRODUCTS. If we dont see this screen on the leaked models at MWC 09 then im definitly saving up for the Toshiba TG01!! keyboard or not, a 4.1" screen with full divx support outta the box!!? now thats an end all to smartphones for sure!! keep ya posted on all the new pics if we get any. Plus ill try to create some better quality Photoshop pics of the leaked HTC phones so we may be able to have a better resolution. thanks all for the poll responses!!!
Update!!! Ok so ive been working on the 3D model for this concept. I finished pretty much everything i wanted to do. The look is there. hopefully someone over at HTC is checking these pics out. It took me a total of about 3 days to model out this phone. and it was fun to decide the final look. overall i would say it should be no thicker than the tilt. hopefully with new tech it will be thinner. aside from that i thought it would great if the front buttons were only visible when the screen was on, seeing as how they are not physical buttons. and maybe they could all be configurable to different icons, almost as if they were on a small led screen so you could give them a custom look. the camera is now flush with the back, which is how i think it should always be. maybe physical limitations are to blame for the official design. i hope all you guys like it. I might consider putting together some models of other concept phones in the future. maybe an Iphone with a slide out QWERTY k/b!! hehe. just kidding. who knows. hope you all like them.
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For me it is a fake PS and this model will never happens.

I do not think that they are will release a qwerty model as it is directly competing against the iphone and they do not want it to be thick.

I'm hoping you're wish will become true...
But we always want more... : http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/8263

they are fake, I made them!! just wishing they will come true. someone needs to make thinner keyboard hardware and thinner slide-out hardware. my tilt still feels like a brick. and the touch pro? that is a joke. too thick for me. thats why i made these. my Dreams!

Thats clearly Photoshopped
I think a HD, with Qwerty will just become to bulky to be really really attractive..

Lord.Bachus said:
Thats clearly Photoshopped
I think a HD, with Qwerty will just become to bulky to be really really attractive..
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ofcourse it is. he made them just to show us and talk about it....

BAsocial said:
I'm hoping you're wish will become true...
But we always want more... : http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/8263
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More infor about the T8290 here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1378
Surur

And after they got the keyboard attached they will add a fingerprint scanner, tv-tuner, wimax, surround sound speakers and hdmi.
I think this is already one of the best phones HTC ever built if it is as good as it looks. The only true iPhone-killer so far I think. Of course they can build a phone that suits everyone's needs but first of all they need to beat the competitiors before experimenting. I will probably buy it next year.
By the way, on the second picture in the lower part of the picture the keyboard is wider than the phone, so when you close it the keyboard will stick out on the other side.

Great tazbo28!!!
As a happy Universal user I always have been looking for a REAL succesor of the best PDA ever made!: Universal
And this work you done it´s exactly what I call the PERFECT uni succesor!!
I don´t know if this will become real or not but I´m having hope!!!!
Congrats!!!

That's the phone I'm waiting for. Why would the iphone have anything to do with holding back production of this type of phone. They could have the best of both worlds with the Touch HD (iphone killer for those people wanting it to be dead so bad) and the Touch HD Pro (for those people who really don't want to give up the use of a physical keyboard). That's how you could kill more than just the iphone. I'll be waiting.......hopefully this will be born someday.

It would probably sell but....
anyhow, your lighting is all wrong which is why it looks very fake.

It'd be good to see the Touch HD have a QWERTY keyboard.

You tried but u didn't photoshopped it well
I just hope this could happen in reality...it would be an all round iphone killer + a wonderful piece of device.
Oh Jesus! my post got hijacked and now, the whole world wide web is filled with your mock up picture of HTC Touch HD Pro and rumours that the PPC might be coming... damn,this is what the WWW could do

mojohio said:
.......hopefully this will be born someday.
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I saw this on at least one other website and I don't recall them recognizing it was faked by way of wishful thinking.... doesn't take much to "start" a rumor does it.

i had a wizard and a trinity. My conclusion: the keyboard is not used all the times, and anyway too small for real typing. I bought a bluetooth keyboard but never used it....

The best PDA Fake I ever saw was done with a HP 4200 I think. They detached the touch screen from that tablet PC and hooked it up to the Dell X51v's VGA-out and claimed that HTC got a new supersize pocketpc / tablet-whatever thing. Very funny fake since they did it on video which made it look even more realistic.
If they would make a foldable version they could compete with the E90, that's a very very solid pda in that part of the business world: weight doesn't matter, just quality, size and funtionality.

It is true..why cant HTC make a ppc with keyboard just like the E90 - i mean the one that closes and not slide :-?

bjluv said:
It is true..why cant HTC make a ppc with keyboard just like the E90 - i mean the one that closes and not slide :-?
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See HTC Universal.
Surur

It's a great fake ^_^ A Touch HD with keyboard, should be street priced about $1200 LOL

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world...

What if you could trade your Touch HD to any phone in the world, no mather the price or release date!! Which phone would it be??
For me- Im currently looking at Toshiba TG03 or Toshiba K02 or NOKIA N900 !!!
And Im looking at selling my Touch HD for about 400-440 dollars , is that a good price, or should I ask more(phone is in good condition, screen has always had a screen protector, has a dent in uper right corner of phone(fell from a meter high), and VOL UP button doesnt work properly(plastic falling of)), a custom rom installed from xda-devs much faster than original!

i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?

I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made

ibsa03 said:
i would trade it for a LEO
besides that, nothing else. i love my HD, used as a "personal digital assistant", not a gameboy
what do u want to have in your pocket?
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I was also looking at a Leo - but dont you think that Winmo deserves something more powerfull?? and Im getting really bored of Windows mobile as OS!!! I want to have in my pocket a Multimedia Player with Wifi, Calling and SMS capabilitirs!!
Fallen Spartan said:
I could only comtemplate this, but would need to test each phone before I would actually make a decision. Most likely be the HD2 (Leo) as you have XDA right beside you for mods, roms, radio etc etc etc
The Toshiba TG03, Toshiba K02 & NOKIA N900 all look great, but without XDA, their just isn't a comparison to be made
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I agree on that no xda support for both Toshibas, But Nokia just aint that full of bugs, and they give out firmware updates which fix problems! + n900 is running Maemo 5 (something interesting ) !!! by the way -- is it true that N900 can only be used with both hands?? (no portrait mode)

Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.

Sasimi said:
Iphone 3GS 32GB, then sell it for 600€ and buy a E75 for 200€.
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Nice Idea!!
currently Im thinking to sell my HD for about 400-500USD and buy a Nokia E63 (about 260USD)

Hands down, I would go for one of these......no question, no competition!
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I'm looking at a "Leo" at the moment as my HD has a few problems..., though there seems to be a few issues with it at the moment, alot just seem to be firmware related and could be fixed with an official update from HTC, though there seems to be problems with the camera...??, hmm.... not sure, for me the wvga screen format is where it should be at !!, and that processor seems like it's more than capable, as well as a decent amount of RAM, there just needs to be more developers get behind WM, to combat the Iphone....., It's more about net surfing organizers calenders/ alarms.....etc for me, but it would be nice to have some sweet looking games similar to the Iphones, other than that I'm going to have to say the Iphone 3GS, only because of the OS, the phone is clearly not as good as some of HTC's finest...eg. HD2 (LEO), but the wealth of applications available is staggering, but...., no true multitasking..., still no decent camera, and I'm hearing people complain about call quality...?, and having to sync everything back to Itunes is going to **** me off !! ??.....I'm traditionally a PC guy, but am buying a Macbook pro early 2010 some time, specifically for using a music program "Logic", so I'm going to have to get used to the whole Itunes thing, and I spose it may sync a lil better, (though I've seen software available that will sync a WM device with apples OS with ease), So......, I spose if everything is rocksolid with the LEO, then the LEO.....Hmmm, other than that....IPhone 3GS, I can see people getting all worked up at the mere suggestion of an Iphone, but as far as the OS goes I think it's alot smoother, and they seem more established, lets hope the next cple of years see microsoft get right in there as well !!

For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.

Moandal said:
For me it would the the HD2/Leo but with a Resistive screen so I can use my finger when I want and use a stylus when I want.
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yes, still so many of my favorite programs require stylus, sometimes I just prefer to use it !!

I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...

Bodisson said:
I just got my HD, so it's not fair question...
But I guess it would be Diamond 2 one day... I don't like resistive screen... So no Leo for me...
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You mean you dont like capacitive screen (leo has capacitive) all other HTC WM phones have resistive
I sold My HD yesterday at midnight for about 500USD (converted from LVL) Hd is still with me, cause I will install it n stuff n give it away at weekend!

well i just got my HD..and i love it (and it costs me much of my precious time )
maybe i would trade it for a Motorola Milestone (Droid)..i hope it didn't hear that ^^

Nexus 2

Okay, so I've had my Nexus one for a while now, and I was wondering what they could possibly do to the nexus 2 that would make it even better. I'm thinking probably a faster processor, and more ram, but what else comes to mind?

would love to see a FM Trans to like "broadcast" to the radio....Like those transmitters for mp3 players....Would be siiiick to have pandora or something playing over car radio via my phone

Don't they have something that does that already?

better use of the snapdragon processor, but that's software related... I would like it to be more durable such as made from a single block of aluminium. Also a powerful graphics chip.

htc fan89 said:
better use of the snapdragon processor, but that's software related... I would like it to be more durable such as made from a single block of aluminium. Also a powerful graphics chip.
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The HTC Legend is a sexy beast lol. I'd like to get my hands on one if it goes GSM.
Yeah, a more powerful graphics chip would be awesome, I just can't wait til the big developers start moving towards android so we can have some of the awesome games and apps the iPhone has.

HD2.
Android.
Win.
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lol @ windows logo with android

lazaro17 said:
lol @ windows logo with android
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I'm guessing you don't know that the HD2 is

Maybe they'd include a secondary camera, FM and a coffee maker

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lol @ windows logo with android
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I second this. God that thing is amazing. But it won't look right until the Supersonic comes out. THEN a decent Rom will be possible in my eyes.
But with Windows Phone 7 I can imagine the devs are busy porting that to it right now.

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Heh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xok9E8SRCS0

Google HTC Scorpion......should be gsm of exactly what your dreaming of

Not that I could care less... but I would really love for the N2 to have a true multi-touch screen to shut that debate down... 1GB of RAM, 4GB internal ROM, 4" screen, XVGA LCD or SuperAMOLED... I don't like AMOLED for outdoor use. 10MP camera, with xenon flash... and of course Android 3.1!

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Not that I could care less... but I would really love for the N2 to have a true multi-touch screen to shut that debate down... 1GB of RAM, 4GB internal ROM, 4" screen, XVGA LCD or SuperAMOLED... I don't like AMOLED for outdoor use. 10MP camera, with xenon flash... and of course Android 3.1!
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For less than $500 right?

I will be keeping my Nexus for 2 or more years, whatever comes around the corner - i'll just port it over to the Nexus.. since the N1 is like the G1 in terms of development and popularity, I should be ok for a while..
(this is really what I'm just telling myself.. I dont want my precious Nexus to become.. not worth the time of day anymore...)
Why does technology have to advance so fast!! =(

front facing camera for video chat, a high quality speaker-phone, a kickstand with a projected laser keyboard? an hd projector component

hardware keyboard

x
I myself am sick of the having to chase technology.... I'm done for a bit, my n1 will sufficient for a year, I think thats a good time to get a new phone, once every year...
N1 just needs adobe flash and apps to sd and ill be happy as a cucumber....

Video recording capability @ 24 frames per second (constant!) with DECENT audio quality ... like the Milestone. Why have a 480x720 video resolution when the video is laggy and audio is utter crap? Also a flash option on the video recording would also be good - again, just like the Milestone.
Finally, make FM radio work and you have the perfect device.

the 1ghz processor is enough for me. the current amount of ram is enough- maybe a tad bump is cool.
get rid of the amoled display, 4-4.3 inch display. no trackball. sleep/wake from a hardware button like g1/mytouch. being able to shoot hd video.
other than that... having the nexus one has finally made me not eager to look/have the next best cellular device. this n1 almost kicks my netbooks ass

Xiaomi MI-2

http://asia.cnet.com/xiaomi-mi2-quad-core-android-smartphone-announced-62218345.htm
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/first-photos-of-the-xiaomi-mi-2.17591/
I think I just found my new phone, upgrading from SGS2. The specs blow away any phone right now.
* Qualcomm 8064 CPU (Quadcore)
* 2GB RAM
* 16GB ROM
* Graphics processing comparable to the XBOX 360 (Adreno 320 graphics chip)
* 2000 mAh 3000 mAh battery upgrades
* 4.3 inches high PPI retina screen, 1280x720 resolution. The touch screen to do (the OGS / TOL), the single glass fit technology, Ultra Narrow design to protect the glass.
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Not sure if it has expandable storage. But by currency conversion it works out: $315/£200!!
Should be released in October. Hope it works in UK

Nice phone! If only we could get it for under $400 shipped in USA. Hopefully works for T-Mobile....

even anand is blown away
Xiaomi Mi-2 - the worlds fastest smartphone with xbox 360 graphics
Impressive specs
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...nnounces-miui-phone-mitwo-with-apq8064-inside
http://www.xiaomi.com/mi2
90fps

I wonder if this will have solid rom AOSP/ROM support... you might imagine so considering it's running MIUI out of the box.
Also, battery life.

Will it have an english MIUI available though?

Great specs, especially love the option for 3000mAh albeit with an extra 2mm thickness. But no mention of an SD card slot?? 16GB inside is fine but not enough for me on the whole.

I want one so bad! Hopefully we can manage to get them here in the US for under $400... It's beautiful.

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Yes it will.
Just wondering if it will work in the UK

Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
Apparently this company has some very interesting marketing strategies, the price is apparently more so an initial head turner and far from permanent. Supply is also iffy.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

Only missing feature is NFC, but hard to complain about at that price with those specs. Even if it comes in at $450 or so in the end that's around the Xperia P range so not out of sorts. We'll see if they release the goodies for the devs to tinker with.

Has this gone on sale in China? Maybe one of the Chinese users could clear our queries with regards to this phone. I'm chiefly concerned about the following things:
1. English support (should mostly have)
2. AOSP support (almost certainly might have)
3. Build quality and spares!!
Damn it I live in India and we are China's neighbours. Start selling you phones here guys!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30418051#post30418051

lnfound said:
Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
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Disagree, for that price it will be a wow factor at that time of release and a few months after release

you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
I'm giving this a try :silly:
http://www.androidforcheap.com/note...3-os-wcdma-3g-gps-wifi-smart-phone-p-310.html
or this
http://www.androidforcheap.com/i930...-pixel-camera-micro-sim-card-phone-p-453.html
amazing what they can produce here :cyclops:

don't expect aosp support as they will probably never release the kernel source. the first one was okay... many of my friends have them but.although they get updates every week they still seem to be only about 75 stable.. the new one has me interested from a cheap hardware angle but I like beingable to choose my own Rom

@joshofbass
what do you mean by "they still seem to be only about 75 stable"?
reboots? freeze? I need a dual sim so that i don't have to lug around 3 phones

NFC??
Does anyone know if the MI-2 supports NFC technology?
I have seen many websites which write the specs and other useful information,but none is mentioning whether or not it has a nfc chip.

NFC is not listed in the specs on the official homepage. Neither is microsd support, btw ...

the best phone!

mengfei said:
you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
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Already sold out