Tethering blocked? - Vibrant General

I have been using mobile ap on my vibrant, but today it suddenly stopped. Data still works fine from the phone, but my pc (win 7 64) can't load a thing.
I get a solid wifi connection, just no internet. Tried usb tether and got the same thing. If I switch to the neighbor's wifi (shh...) it works fine. Flashed the new mobile ap for JI6, no dice.
the only reason I have my suspicions it may be blocked is that this happened after about 2 hours of streaming hulu. definitely not throttled, though bc I'm getting at least 1.2 Mbps on speed test on the phone. Also don't eat a ton of data other then today, so I'm sure I'm not at that 5GB limit.
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tangent but i thought t-mobile removed that 5gb limit and would just throttle speed after hitting that "limit"?

anthonys2r said:
tangent but i thought t-mobile removed that 5gb limit and would just throttle speed after hitting that "limit"?
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That's what I meant. They don't cut you off per se, they just make it unbearably slow for the rest of the billing cycle after 5GB
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I haven't tried today, but yesterday I was able to do it just fine. JI6 and AP for JI6. If I get a chance to try it today, I'll let you know if it's still working for me.
I do think I remember seeing another thread with a similar problem, not sure if it ever got resolved.

Same thing happened to me but tmobile said there was maintenance in my area. I haven't tried it this morning to confirm its working yet.
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Ilmoran said:
I haven't tried today, but yesterday I was able to do it just fine. JI6 and AP for JI6. If I get a chance to try it today, I'll let you know if it's still working for me.
I do think I remember seeing another thread with a similar problem, not sure if it ever got resolved.
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Ya, I'm sure it isn't everybody or there'd be a **** storm in the forums. I'm just wondering if maybe tmo looks at the rate of data condones consumed and figures the high rate must be tethered and somehow blocks that traffic?
Hoping that's not the case and I just need to change some connection settings.
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felix.akinyemi said:
Same thing happened to me but tmobile said there was maintenance in my area. I haven't tried it this morning to confirm its working yet.
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You were able to get a data connection on the phone, though? I don't see how tower maitenance (or any other kind) could affect only the tethered device...
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israel941 said:
You were able to get a data connection on the phone, though? I don't see how tower maitenance (or any other kind) could affect only the tethered device...
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I was till about 1:30am today. I had 3 bars but no 3G or E icon on top. I couldn't use data at all on my phone but I could call and txt.
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felix.akinyemi said:
I was till about 1:30am today. I had 3 bars but no 3G or E icon on top. I couldn't use data at all on my phone but I could call and txt.
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That's totally different, and makes more sense. In my case, data on the phone hasn't at all been an issue - just my pc when it's tethered to my phone.
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Does anyone know if T-Mobile allow tethering with regular data plans with up to 5 gigs, or do you have to pay extra?

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Does anyone know if T-Mobile allow tethering with regular data plans with up to 5 gigs, or do you have to pay extra?
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Tethering is technically against t-mobile's T&C, however, they are really pretty lenient about it. In fact, as a rep, we used to help people set up their blackberries to tether until recently. That's the way it should be, I think. Let me use my data access and if I reach the throttle point in a couple hours and have it throttled the other 29 days, that should be my call.
Anyway, that's a tangent. Good news is, I downloaded barnacle and selected "skip wpa_supplicant" in the settings and it's working great now. Not sure what the issue was before since samsung's mobile ap DID work fine for the last couple months. ::shrug:: i can return to "abusing" my t-mobile web access now.

Good to know... I saw there's "Wireless Tether" app or something like that, which I'm guessing basically makes your phone a Wireless AP... has anyone tried it?

Wait up...cap is 5gb. Last month I heard cap was 10gb
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5gb now for phones. Starting the 16th
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5gb now for phones. Starting the 16th
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If I am under contract can I get out of my contract at no charge since they changed their policy?
I would like to switch carriers, I only get 20-300kbps in my area on 3g and it keeps getting worse.

israel941 said:
I have been using mobile ap on my vibrant, but today it suddenly stopped. Data still works fine from the phone, but my pc (win 7 64) can't load a thing.
I get a solid wifi connection, just no internet. Tried usb tether and got the same thing. If I switch to the neighbor's wifi (shh...) it works fine. Flashed the new mobile ap for JI6, no dice.
the only reason I have my suspicions it may be blocked is that this happened after about 2 hours of streaming hulu. definitely not throttled, though bc I'm getting at least 1.2 Mbps on speed test on the phone. Also don't eat a ton of data other then today, so I'm sure I'm not at that 5GB limit.
Any thoughts?
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I ran into this issue attempting to run the JI2 MobileAP on JI6(and JI5), but I've not attempted to run JI6 MobileAP on JI6 for fear of having the same issue.
To get around this, I USB tethered off my phone and setup and adhoc on my laptop using that connection for others to connect too.

Ilmoran said:
I haven't tried today, but yesterday I was able to do it just fine. JI6 and AP for JI6. If I get a chance to try it today, I'll let you know if it's still working for me.
I do think I remember seeing another thread with a similar problem, not sure if it ever got resolved.
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I thought it was 10 GB?

Is the throttling back an automatic thing? I pulled in a bit over 10gb this month and haven't experienced any slowdowns (right now I'm pulling 5.5mbps down and 1.3mbps up).

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-reducing-data-cap-will-throttle-speeds-after-5gb-of-usage/
supposedly on the 16th after 5gb data speed will be slowed, before it was 10gb

Kubernetes said:
Is the throttling back an automatic thing? I pulled in a bit over 10gb this month and haven't experienced any slowdowns (right now I'm pulling 5.5mbps down and 1.3mbps up).
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Bear in mind also that the throttle limit (10gb now/possibly 5gb later on) only applies to the data you have used when connected with 3g/Edge. Wifi is a wonderful thing when tethering!

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5gb cap true or not?

Okay so ive read topics where tmobile will slow down your speed if you go above 5gb in data usage. Well i went above that (im at 5.3gb) 2 nights ago and its only my 2nd week into my billing cycle. This is because i tether my xbox to play live, i give people wifi for their laptops etc. So my question is, do they really slow you down? My speeds are H connections and havent slowed down at all. And why give people phones and they pay for unlimited data only to have it slowed down if they exceed an x amount and have them pay an EXTRA $15 for an added tether feature?
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Id say consider yourself lucky your speed hasn't been "choked" down a little. Its all part of TS you agreed to when you signed up.
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hawaiian.monzta said:
Okay so ive read topics where tmobile will slow down your speed if you go above 5gb in data usage. Well i went above that (im at 5.3gb) 2 nights ago and its only my 2nd week into my billing cycle. This is because i tether my xbox to play live, i give people wifi for their laptops etc. So my question is, do they really slow you down? My speeds are H connections and havent slowed down at all. And why give people phones and they pay for unlimited data only to have it slowed down if they exceed an x amount and have them pay an EXTRA $15 for an added tether feature?
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First of all, XBL through your cell? Seems odd...
Back on topic...
the 5GB cap will roll out in the next month or so it isn't effective immediately.
hawaiian.monzta said:
Okay so ive read topics where tmobile will slow down your speed if you go above 5gb in data usage. Well i went above that (im at 5.3gb) 2 nights ago and its only my 2nd week into my billing cycle. This is because i tether my xbox to play live, i give people wifi for their laptops etc. So my question is, do they really slow you down? My speeds are H connections and havent slowed down at all. And why give people phones and they pay for unlimited data only to have it slowed down if they exceed an x amount and have them pay an EXTRA $15 for an added tether feature?
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5GB cap applies to new contracts and customers start with T-Mobile, pre-existing customer have the 10 GB cap with throttling.
hawaiian.monzta said:
i give people wifi for their laptops etc.
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F that. The only time I've done that is when I've been traveling and needed access and someone else needed access as well. Otherwise, pay up.
The people I give wifi to is like my family. I don't give random people wifi.
And believe it or not hspa+ speeds on the g2 is way quicker than my actual internet
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But thanks everyone for your input
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when you get throttled down, you'll know it. every time i hit 5 gigs, i get slowed down. it's been happening to me ever since the nexus one. i haven't heard of the 10 gig thing, but the 5 did happen to me. when it did happen on the nexus one for me, it would still show 3g. but i'll get edge speed only, and it's a pain. but you can surf regular web stuff just fine. it's the videos that'll kill ya. i haven't hit 5 gigs on the g2 yet and not planning to. but hey, at least they throttle you down instead of charging you extra per mb.
I think it has begun. A couple days ago I received a text from tmo saying my speeds would be slowed through the remainder of the billing cycle. I have always been a heavy user and used to tether my Nexus every night at work. I am only at about 6Gbs this billing cycle so I hardly think it is excessive. I hit 14Gbs a couple months ago and never got this message.
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when you get throttled down, you'll know it. every time i hit 5 gigs, i get slowed down. it's been happening to me ever since the nexus one. i haven't heard of the 10 gig thing, but the 5 did happen to me. when it did happen on the nexus one for me, it would still show 3g. but i'll get edge speed only, and it's a pain. but you can surf regular web stuff just fine. it's the videos that'll kill ya. i haven't hit 5 gigs on the g2 yet and not planning to. but hey, at least they throttle you down instead of charging you extra per mb.
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Your right at last they don't charge you extra but if they did, that would be against the law because if we pay for unlimited, we pay to use unlimited. So they can't charge extra for going over a certain amount
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T-Mobile just started recently to throttle the downspeed. However, at least that's what is announced, you should receive a text message informing you about the throttling.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/warning-heavy-users-t-mobile-just-now-turning-on-data-throttli/
Just received my txt because of tethering on my mytouch slide!
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Just received my txt because of tethering on my mytouch slide!
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What text?
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Oh you don't know? Tmobile send you a nice txt message when you hit your 5 gig limit. My only issue is that I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the limit. I'm going to have to check my usage.
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What text?
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dynamikd said:
Oh you don't know? Tmobile send you a nice txt message when you hit your 5 gig limit. My only issue is that I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the limit. I'm going to have to check my usage.
After you got that text did you notice a slow down in speed?
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In all honesty I did not. I even ran a speed test after I received the txt to verify and I was still pulling the usually speeds for my area.
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In all honesty I did not. I even ran a speed test after I received the txt to verify and I was still pulling the usually speeds for my area.
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Nice!
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http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-data-plans-revamping-november-3rd/
Good read if you want the low down.
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@ddgarcia05 That was a good read indeed.
@mftek That txt through me off because I have tethered on my device before and never once received any sort of notification from Tmobile about it.
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Tethering?

Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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scr3wy said:
Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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as long as t-mobile doesn't catch you. yes it's free.
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Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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IMO, it would count towards your data usage so it should cost if not on unlimited plan.
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IMO, it would count towards your data usage so it should cost if not on unlimited plan.
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Even with the unlimited plans, T-mobile requires the tethering feature to be added. As was stated before, it's free until they catch it.
Tethering is extra on top of unlimited data.
Change your user agent on your computer to android, ie mobile, or iphone,etc etc and you are good to go.
I have not been caught yet. I did receive a txt before I changed user agent though.
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I been using tethering on my phone since day one and I have never gotten charged for it. I use it intensively. It will use data though. You gotta watch out for the 5gb cap.
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Alrighty tanks for the info
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so rooting and using an app is not required? For USB tethering that is
scr3wy said:
Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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Wireless tethering is included with the [MyTouch 4G] phone, per 2 T-Mobile reps, one who checked in to it after I told her what I had heard from the first. I asked her to annotate my record (case, ticket) Just In Case. 2 different reps said that tethering was not included, and was an extra cost. I didn't press them as I was calling about something unrelated.
I have tethered without charge and without problems before and after rooting/installing CM7. I don't tether much, but never hesitate when it is handy. My total usage is well under 5GB/month, FWIW.
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Wireless tethering is included with the phone, per 2 T-Mobile reps, one who checked in to it after I told her what I had heard from the first. I asked her to annotate my record (case, ticket) Just In Case. FWIW.
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They are right, but it's just like GM cars come included with ONstar but it'll cost you. There is no switch or button they can push to allow the tethering to continue after the message comes up unless you have the feature added. You can ask for supervisor, supervisor's supervisor, etc. but it's an automatic system programming. Before last December there was no tethering feature but it was also against the terms & conditions of T-mobile to tether and still is in there but now they have the feature.
Some people have found changing the user agent ID as a solution, don't know but using it regularly can definitely lead to the message and there's no options after that but to quit tethering or purchase the feature.
I've been tethering for the past 2 weeks now because I just moved into a new place and haven't been able to switch my internet over just yet. I haven't seen any changes in my bill, nor recieved any text messages from T-Mobile regarding tethering charges. I'm using CM7 and no other tethering apps. I haven't changed any user agents except on my phone's browser, and I changed it from Android to desktop. So far I've used 33,152.81 Mb (a lot of netflix streaming) according to the T-Mobile website. Although I've been throttled, it's not too bad because I'm in a 4G area and still getting around 2 Mbps.
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Although I've been throttled, it's not too bad because I'm in a 4G area and still getting around 2 Mbps.
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if you are seeing 2Mb download speed you are not throttled. Throttled speeds are around 56k, or about the same as EDGE.
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if you are seeing 2Mb download speed you are not throttled. Throttled speeds are around 56k, or about the same as EDGE.
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Well I recieved a text message from T-Mobile that I have been, and I usually get around 4-6 Mb at my new place.
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Well I recieved a text message from T-Mobile that I have been, and I usually get around 4-6 Mb at my new place.
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they haven't tethered you yet then. according to their TOS, tethered speeds are around EDGE.
Consider yourself lucky..
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they haven't tethered you yet then. according to their TOS, tethered speeds are around EDGE.
Consider yourself lucky..
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Yup. I pretty sure it's because I'm using CM7 and not the official stock app. Either way, this is just my temporary setup. Once I get my internet up and running I won't be tethering too much. It's nice to know that I can though.
when i get throttled my speeds drop so slow, noticably slower in web browsing
lucky you, it'd be nice to have 2mb download still
Tethering has been enabled on my phone since I got it, without it even being rooted it has the wifi hotspot option, and I don't remember there being an extra charge on my bill for it...and yes it works fine.
I don't know where some folks are getting there info. T-mobile does not charge for tethering. I tether every day on my Mytouch 4g and never been charged for tethering. Ive been doing this since Jan.
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I don't know where some folks are getting there info. T-mobile does not charge for tethering. I tether every day on my Mytouch 4g and never been charged for tethering. Ive been doing this since Jan.
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According to their TOS they do charge for it. Read it sometime.
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According to their TOS they do charge for it. Read it sometime.
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Where do I find this TOS? Because like I mentioned before, I also use my tether everyday, and for hours! I dont get charged any tether fees. My data usage does go down hill though.
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[Q] MyTouch 4G unlimited 4G?

I've been looking over a few threads here about the soft data caps that T-Mobile uses. I'm aware about how it works and everything but I've found something kind of odd. I've seen a couple of posts about other people having some success with it.
Over the past 3 or 4 months my phone has been my primary internet connection by using the hotspot feature. This phone is completely stock (non rooted, no custom roms, etc) and within a few days of my new billing cycle I would hit the 5GB data limit for my plan. Out of frustration I turned off WCDMA/GSM auto to GSM to see if it would work faster. I turned it back to auto after a day or two and found that I had been un-throttled. I would check the My Account app on my phone and it would state that I had been throttled but everything is working on 4G speeds.
So this month just out of curiosity I've been using as much data as possible just to see if anything will be done. I'm not trying to be a data hog or anything, this is just out of curiosity. I'm 7 days into my billing cycle and have used over 22 gigs and still going strong. I'm currently streaming Netflix in HD and have two laptops and another smart phone using the data.
Does anyone know if I'll see a cease and desist letter from T-Mobile or if anything at all will happen?
Side note: This phone/T-Mobile has really surprised me with the speeds and capabilities it has. I used an iPhone4 with AT&T to stream Netflix and the quality and buffering was horrendous in comparison.
This sounds extremely beautiful to me as I bought the 10$ 200mb and I blow through that in less then a day. If this works you would not believe how happy this would make me. As for T-Mobile doing a cease and desist order I would highly doubt it. When I had a T-Mobile dash 2 years ago, without a data plan I was able to connect to the internet free of charge, and I would watch youtube Justin.tv and so on. I did this for almost 1 and a half years and have seen nothing from T-Mobile.
so basically, all you did was turn it to only GSM for a day or two, and then back on and the throttle went away?
Im gonna try the same thing and see what kinda speeds im getting after I turn it back on. 5gigs goes really quick and throttled speeds suck, Drives me crazy.. Ill get back with my results..
Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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Haha I remember this hack from the G1 days, when people used over 2gb data at that time. It actually works, it tricks the system I guess. I thought tmo patched it.
I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Since it is decided on their side i don't think they will try any legal action or whatever against you, happy throttling
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I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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/Settings/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Network Mode. Then select GSM only
thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
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thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
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i dont remember stock rom having the 2g option so...yea
What phone are you currently using?
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Just an update on my usage. I've attached a screenshot of the amount of data that I've used so far from the monitor usage section of mytmobile.com
Also a speedtest that I ran just now just to see what it's running at. Right now usually seems around peak time, the ping and download speed is usually a bit faster at night.
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Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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That's what I was going to have to do to try to avoid being throttled. If you get a chance to try it out let me know what happens.
If anyone else does want to try this if you could let me know what happens. Also if you could let me know the phone model, current data plan, and anything else that you think may be important. I'm curious to know if it is my phone, the MyTouch 4G's in general, or what. I don't know anyone else with a smart phone with T-Mobile that cares about this so if anyone could provide any feedback on this it would be great.
My refill minutes and data just started today and I'm already at 1 gig will probably report back next Sunday
I have gotten the "5gb throttle" text from T-Mobile a couple times but I have never been throttled and that's without doing this "trick". I've never done anything and still seem to not get throttled even tho I've gotten the texts saying they were going to throttle me for the remainder of my cycle. It did it on my MT4G and its also doing it on my Sensation now. Maybe I'm just lucky.
*knocks on wood*
Im trying this asap...I run a shoutcast radio station (limbik frequencies if anyone cares to know) and I drive a truck all night so have been listening via the 4g while i drive...needless to say I run out of data in no time. Even if I upgraded to the 5gb plan (which is the highest they offer me) I'd still run out...1mb per minute, 5-9 hours a night....doesn't add up right! Worst part is that its a nonprofit station that AOL pays for our bandwidth to stream...seriously I shouldn't have to pay out the ass to make sure its running and simultaneously enjoy it!

Tethering with Barnical

So will att catch on? I only will use it for Playing world of warcraft for a few hours eevery 3 or 4 days and basic web browsing. A few hours of game play is ONLY about 50mb if even that. But will they catch on? I have the 30 dollar unlimated plan
I got a letter from att a month ago about tethering on my infuse. I'm not sure how they found out since I was running a cooked rom I wouldn't chance it cause they will switch your account to the 4 gig tethering plan
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I got a letter from att a month ago about tethering on my infuse. I'm not sure how they found out since I was running a cooked rom I wouldn't chance it cause they will switch your account to the 4 gig tethering plan
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Will they warn me first?? or will they just switch it?
Im sorry i didn't mean to post in this section i ha to many tabs and didn't see it
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Will they warn me first?? or will they just switch it?
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They need to let you know they are changing your plan before they do so. I have been tethering with my phone for years now and ATT has never said anything to and I think it has to do with the amount of traffic. If they see a huge spike of activity and then they look at where that traffic is coming from and they see that you are connecting to battle net then they will know something is up(i know the traffic is not coming from battle net). What I am trying to say is do it within reason, as my guess is the people that they are catching are using well over 2GB a month.
I hope a mod moves this soon... But I heard of at least one person getting nailed with usage <1GB.
i used to tether my blackberry to my ipod touch forever and att has never said anything, i used to use it on my netbook when i went to school too. this was bluetoothtethering. but im think it has more to do with what a user is doing/amount of traffic they are using etc. as for the <gb guy, that may have been a random check or something else. but tethering to play online gaming you will surely get naildd... so use at your own risk knowing the consequences if they/when they find out
I've been tethering for years. I regularly go over 5gb's and at&t has never said anything. I am grandfathered in on the unlimited tho, and I normally only use it for tethering my tablet which is Android so it probably looks as tho it's just coming from my phone. Oh and occasional tethering to my Xbox when my DSL drops out. Lol.
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I believe it has to do with the internet stack in the phone. Seen an article a while back on this. If you use a cooked rom they will know if it is based on the stock kernal and rom. If you use something like cyanogenmod they shouldn't ever find out. I think I seen this explanation with verizon tethering and how to get around it.
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I believe it has to do with the internet stack in the phone. Seen an article a while back on this. If you use a cooked rom they will know if it is based on the stock kernal and rom. If you use something like cyanogenmod they shouldn't ever find out. I think I seen this explanation with verizon tethering and how to get around it.
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but that wouldnt explain how i could tether with my blackberry to computers and ipods with no ATT wrath, and i know these are android phones but tethering is tethering..right?
How AT&T can find out?
About four months ago I received a txt from AT&T thanking me for enjoying my trial period of tethering for my iPhone and that a tethering package would automatically be on my next bill. The forum I was on (don't remember where) simply stated that all I had to do was go into an AT&T store and demand that I NOT be placed on the tethering plan. I did that and after a quick phone call from the store to a CSR they pulled it off but with a warning. They said that if tethering activity was monitored again that they would add it back and I couldn't remove it (yeah right).
I was using the MyWi app from Cydia that works perfectly. I used it for nearly two years with no issue. However, the PDANet Cydia app has a "Hide Tethering" option in the program that always made me curious. What is it hiding? MyWi doesn't have that option.
I also used a Windows Mobile phone prior to that with ICS installed and regularly tethered to that as well. I think that ROM was a NotaTreoFan ROM most of the time and then Energy.
I would love the option of adding tethering to my SGS2 but I refuse to pay for a tethering plan. I'm still grandfathered into unlimited data.
Thoughts?
hyelton said:
So will att catch on? I only will use it for Playing world of warcraft for a few hours eevery 3 or 4 days and basic web browsing. A few hours of game play is ONLY about 50mb if even that. But will they catch on? I have the 30 dollar unlimated plan
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They shouldn't notice anything. I have used barnacle tether on T-Mobile and sprint. So both sim and cdma for a while now. And so far nothing. I'm pretty sure barnacle tether just uses your mobile network and shows up as nothing more than data usage. Bc when using the built in carrier tethering they see the app in use and send that data back. I check my tether stats and network stats and it just shows up as network use. I think you will be fine
Nexus S 4G using miui.us with matr1x kernal 9.0 and batttweak RC1

[Q] Wifi tether uses what kind of sprint data?

I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
sapperpipo said:
your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)
styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
g l w t
sapperpipo said:
I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
davidrules7778 said:
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
jemajun000 said:
I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
dtugg said:
False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
murso74 said:
didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.

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