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Will I lose memo after update?

My friend lost the memo app on her samsung phone after upgrading to 2.2. Will these DJ0509 updates er whatever do that to me?
Basically, I haven't updated the software at all. I rooted and uninstalled a ton of bloatware right after getting the phone, and I guess I lost whatever it is that does the updates so I'm still on day 1 version... I've been thinking of updating.

Well, if I understand the rooted rom/update scenario I've read a bunch of times here (though not done myself), when you use the rooted flash scenario to put on the updates, it will wipe your device. So you will need to back it all up with titanium or something.
If you are stock and you OTA update the DL09 that just released this morning, then nothing gets removed or lost on your phone. This I did do and it's all there.

Are you talking about doing the standard update, via Verizon and Innopath ????

Backup with Titanium Backup. Install your new ROM/Software/Kernel/Theme. Use ROM manager/Download ROM/SonofSkyWalker3/Stock Apps. Chose Memo to reinstall. Install/Reboot. Go into Titanium and restore memos. All of your saved memos will be there.
Hope that helps.

superchunkwii said:
Well, if I understand the rooted rom/update scenario I've read a bunch of times here (though not done myself), when you use the rooted flash scenario to put on the updates, it will wipe your device. So you will need to back it all up with titanium or something.
If you are stock and you OTA update the DL09 that just released this morning, then nothing gets removed or lost on your phone. This I did do and it's all there.
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Installing a rooted update .zip wont wipe user data. It will only wipe system. Also he wont be able to install via OTA because of the bloatware removal. Since OTA updates patch files instead of overwriting them. If it can't find them the update will fail.
So if you were to update using say super clean DL09 you won't lose user data. But if you were to flash the full odin DI01 so you could get the DL09 OTA, you will lose user data.
If you haven't done something please don't spread false information regardless of if you read about it many times, because you obviously got it wrong.
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[Q] Factory Reset After Root? Will mods prevent OTAs?

So I originally rooted using SuperOneClick, then I got an OTA that broke root. I then found gingerbreak and rooted using that method. I have done a few cool things, like change the boot animation and lock/unlock sounds, enabled sideloading, etc.
Anyway...
With rumors and speculation about Gingerbread coming out in the coming months (hopefully), I am wondering if the boot animations, lock sounds, and/or SuperUser access will deny the OTA from installing. Is it a good idea to return the ROM to stock to avoid any bugs?
Second,
Specifically on the Atrix, if I performed a factory reset, I assume I won't lose root access, but would I lose the boot animations, and lock/unlock sounds? Let's say I wanted to return it to a 100% stock ROM (un-root, stock boot animation, EVERYTHING) before the 2.3 update comes, how would I do it? I feel as though if I perform an OTA with the mods I've done to it, some unknown bugs/issues would appear (I've seen PLENTY of bugs as is). Can anyone shed some light on this? Call me paranoid, but I've seen too many software issues with this phone, and I'm hoping 2.3 will address them, and I hope I don't introduce any new bugs by updating a modded phone.

You should definitely go back to stock. I doubt that you'll even be prompted if you're rooted, so you won't get the update to Gingerbread. Instructions to return to stock can be found on Motorola's website, by Googling, or from Android Central.

If I do a hard reset using Android Recovery, will that effectively unroot and restore EVERYTHING to the factory image? I know if I do a soft reset through the OS, I will still have root access. I realize I can just unroot using SOC, but there have been issues where busybox is still installed along with the superuser icon, even though the phone doesn't have root access. I just want a clean slate.

rytymu said:
If I do a hard reset using Android Recovery, will that effectively unroot and restore EVERYTHING to the factory image? I know if I do a soft reset through the OS, I will still have root access. I realize I can just unroot using SOC, but there have been issues where busybox is still installed along with the superuser icon, even though the phone doesn't have root access. I just want a clean slate.
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Try this.
Motorola

brewstermax said:
Try this.
Motorola
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I have 4.1.83, and this will not work for it.

I would be interested in learning more about this too
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This is a thread I commented on over at the Motorola forums. I actually got the forum manager to comment on the issue:
"rytymu
What do I do if I'm on 4.1.83 and want to return to stock (rooted)? The software given just says my device is up to date...
Mark (Forums Manager)
With next update/upgrade you will go up to next stock version. You have to
wait til then.
rytymu
So if I understand right:
I most likely will not get an OTA notification because of the root access, so when I run the Motorola Software Update program after the next update comes out, it will then flash a 100% stock image as if I just pulled it out of the box? This includes removing/wiping busybox, root access, boot animations, and EVERYTHING else?
Mark (Forums Manager)
If you are on 4.1.83 but modded you will get ota notification but will
likely fail on install. If MSU is made available you can update /upgrade to
that version. Root and other sideloaded things will be removed. Stock ATRIX
Att software. Not AOSP Android."
I guess this is what I'm looking for, unless someone interprets otherwise...

brewstermax said:
You should definitely go back to stock. I doubt that you'll even be prompted if you're rooted, so you won't get the update to Gingerbread. Instructions to return to stock can be found on Motorola's website, by Googling, or from Android Central.
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OTA update should be fine if you have not deleted any of the original Moto files/bloatware, or leave any of the original Moto bloatware frozen. The updates only throw up at you when there are missing or frozen Moto apps and/or files.
If you are on 4.1.83, (or any firmware), and rooted only, you will get the update fine, but will lose root.
If you have flashed for example GladiAtrix, you will more than likely have to flash back to stock first.
If you have rooted on any version and then frozen any apps, thaw those apps and you will update fine, but again lose root.
Every time you update you lose root.

So I have frozen all bloat, but I did uninstall swype and reinstall a newer version. Is this going to be a problem for the next ota? Am I going to have to do a fresh sbf flash or is there a way to reinstall the stock version of swype? I'm not sure I still even have that file...
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beazie0885 said:
So I have frozen all bloat, but I did uninstall swype and reinstall a newer version. Is this going to be a problem for the next ota? Am I going to have to do a fresh sbf flash or is there a way to reinstall the stock version of swype? I'm not sure I still even have that file...
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If you installed a newer version of the same Swype, this should I imagine be the same as updating Swype. I'm thinking this would allow you to just unfreeze all the bloatware and update OTA. Only thing I can think of is that you try the OTA when it's available, and if it balks at you, flash back to stock.

I just followed another thread on XDA, and flashed to 1.26. After about 40 minutes, I had a fresh install. I then did a factory reset, as I was told that some user data and caches aren't touched by flashing (?). I did it just for good measure. I then went into the menu and updated to 4.1.57. I was tipped off (in an above post, actually) about some Motorola Softare Update program that will flash you from 4.1.57 to 4.1.83. The forum manager at Motorola instructed to do this to basiclly restore your phone if you had modified it (to clear the OTA check). Again, just for good measure, I used this to flash from 4.1.57 to 4.1.83 to be 100% sure I had a bone-stock phone.
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rytymu said:
I just followed another thread on XDA, and flashed to 1.26. After about 40 minutes, I had a fresh install. I then did a factory reset, as I was told that some user data and caches aren't touched by flashing (?). I did it just for good measure. I then went into the menu and updated to 4.1.57. Now, I'm actually in the "soak" beta feedback over at the motorola forums, and I was tipped off (in an above post, actually) about some Motorola Softare Update program that will flash you from 4.1.57 to 4.1.83. The forum manager instructed to do this to basiclly restore your phone if you had modified it (to clear the OTA check). Again, just for good measure, I used this to flash from 4.1.57 to 4.1.83 to be 100% sure I had a bone-stock phone.
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The Moto Software Update is not needed, and Mark, or whoever over on the Moto forums did not "tip" you off to this. This is no secret, and is well known. (BTW, you are breaking the NDA just by saying you are in beta, (soak feedback forums are down in any event as they are always taken down between betas), but that's another story, and being in beta doesn't make you more knowledgeable either).
You have made this sound more complex than it is.
To go back to stock (and the instructions are all over the forums BTW) --->
Flash 4.1.26, OTA to 4.1.57, OTA to 4.1.83!..............Done!
Or ------------>
Flash 4.1.57 sbf, OTA to 4.1.83!..................Done!
People who were having the OTA notification issues, (continually popping up), were those who flashed the 4.1.83 sbf which is floating around, and that's why they were told to flash 4.1.83 through the Moto Update portal.

(Edited above statement)
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[Q] Rooting R800i 2.3.2

killa92 said:
Sorry to be rude!, im new to this "rooting" business. Now i used to be fond with "debranding" sony ericssons by flashing generic firmware via SEtools.
Now my phone doesnt have any "orange" branding on it apart from a orange app which cannot be deleted. But i cannot change my apps permissions or delete what i want to delete on the phone and i believe rooting the phone will accomplish this.
So iv had a look, im running android 2.3.2 with a .184 base. What does this mean for me?, now i realise i can do the same to my phone if i unlock the bootloader, but that means i cannot use SEUS right? Im trying to run gingerbreak yet it just keeps running and running....
Am i right in saying it will be easier to root my phone as im still on 2.3.2?..
Thanks
Warwick
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Thanks for people that helped, i wanted to be fussy and not risk loosing the SEUS function If you get into a bit of a fiddle: shutdown, remove battery, restart, place phone in flight mode to prevent interruptions, kill all running apps, ensure USB debugging is enabled! then exploit gingerbreak and LEAVE it. Only remove bloat AFTER OTA update as mentioned.
Reference:
Process http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
Titanium Backup https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en
List of unwanted apps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699
Backups
Mozza2k11 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036249
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killa92 said:
Sorry to be rude!, im new to this "rooting" business. Now i used to be fond with "debranding" sony ericssons by flashing generic firmware via SEtools.
Now my phone doesnt have any "orange" branding on it apart from a orange app which cannot be deleted. But i cannot change my apps permissions or delete what i want to delete on the phone and i believe rooting the phone will accomplish this.
So iv had a look, im running android 2.3.2 with a .184 base. What does this mean for me?, now i realise i can do the same to my phone if i unlock the bootloader, but that means i cannot use SEUS right? Im trying to run gingerbreak yet it just keeps running and running....
Am i right in saying it will be easier to root my phone as im still on 2.3.2?..
Thanks
Warwick
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Just stick with what your doing gingerbreak. Can take some time to get root access.
Or you could use this method if you can unlock bootloader on your phone. do ota to .145 only if your bootloader is locked, (dont do ota if you already have unlocked bootloader it will brick your device) then unlock bootloader and flash pre rooted .145 system image.
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furrabbit.nh said:
Just stick with what your doing gingerbreak. Can take some time to get root access.
Or you could use this method if you can unlock bootloader on your phone. do ota to .145 only if your bootloader is locked, (dont do ota if you already have unlocked bootloader it will brick your device) then unlock bootloader and flash pre rooted .145 system image.
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I havnt unlocked my bootloader so itl be locked, ideally id like to keep it like this for SEUS updates and warranty. Does gingerbreak work with .184?, and does this .184 mean i have generic firmware already on the phone but just not rooted? And i take it .145 will be 2.3.3?, thought it would be easier on 2.3.2
P.S- I am using V1.2 as this is the latest
Cheers for the reply!

Yes gingerbreak will root 2.3.2 Rom but ur can take a while. Once its rooted it should stay rooted even after ota
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Righty ho, the only different after this finally working is an app called superuser... I still cannot modify application permissions or delete applications of the phone such as the standard games showing in the menu like bruce lee etc.
So how do i find if my phone is rooted, and is there actually any pros to this :S:S

killa92 said:
Righty ho, the only different after this finally working is an app called superuser... I still cannot modify application permissions or delete applications of the phone such as the standard games showing in the menu like bruce lee etc.
So how do i find if my phone is rooted, and is there actually any pros to this :S:S
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You have root. Now you need applications to do what you say.
Superuser is there to grant those apps permission.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread

Cheers dudes!, i think i get it now. Basically im ALLOWED to access all roots and files now but usually an application is used to achieve this but am correct in saying modifications can be done manually?
So ideally, update now to 2.3.3 and i can still install apps to remove bloatware etc?. Where as if i touch anything then update it may fail as apps are missing?

killa92 said:
Cheers dudes!, i think i get it now. Basically im ALLOWED to access all roots and files now but usually an application is used to achieve this but am correct in saying modifications can be done manually?
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You are correct broski. I would recommend TitaniumBackup and Root Explorer to get started.
Always make sure you freeze stuff with TiBu before you delete it. In fact, there's a list of apps you can safely remove (I believe in the Themes & Apps section) that you may want to check out. I would link it but I'm at my iPad.
And yes, I would update before you touch anything.
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TheBassman369 said:
You are correct broski. I would recommend TitaniumBackup and Root Explorer to get started.
Always make sure you freeze stuff with TiBu before you delete it. In fact, there's a list of apps you can safely remove (I believe in the Themes & Apps section) that you may want to check out. I would link it but I'm at my iPad.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
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Wikid! Well can i just do usual file/folder browsing with them apps? Currently got ES file explorer and the mount option completed and allowed access . So shall i update before messing around removing apps as iv not got a lot on it anyway (got it yesterday)
nice one broski

I used SEUS to update my phone to latest firmware. Flashed phone and downgraded to 2.3.2. Re set up all my accounts, installed TiBackup busybox, Astro, Superbox and Gingerbreak.
Before I flashed, Gingerbreak took about 5mins max to root, reeboot and finish.
Now, i have let it sit for over an hour and its still not doing anything???
Do I need to flash my phone again (hope not, takes too long lol) to get it to work? I flashed the Generic .184 that was posted on xda. My phone tells me im on 2.3.2 Build 3.0.A.2.184.
What am I doing wrong?
And yes, I am a noob before you ask lol!

Oh and does it matter if the battery is below 50%?

Flipfoot said:
I used SEUS to update my phone to latest firmware. Flashed phone and downgraded to 2.3.2. Re set up all my accounts, installed TiBackup busybox, Astro, Superbox and Gingerbreak.
Before I flashed, Gingerbreak took about 5mins max to root, reeboot and finish.
Now, i have let it sit for over an hour and its still not doing anything???
Do I need to flash my phone again (hope not, takes too long lol) to get it to work? I flashed the Generic .184 that was posted on xda. My phone tells me im on 2.3.2 Build 3.0.A.2.184.
What am I doing wrong?
And yes, I am a noob before you ask lol!
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I am too just learning. Explain your situation a bit more like in what order youv done things, and what are you trying to achieve? You have ran gingerbreak on 2.3.3 then downgraded to 2.2.2 and trying to use it again :S??

Flipfoot said:
Oh and does it matter if the battery is below 50%?
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Well 50% is minimum i stick to when carrying out any sort of flashing on my previous SE's. I had my charger in the whole time as mine is turning out to be a simple gingerbreak exploit as my phone came with .184 2.3.2 already

Ok, from the top:
New phone purchased on 2.3.2
Rooted using gingerbreak
Deleted some Bloat
Went to update to 2.3.3 and couldnt due to deleted bloat.
Used SEUS to fix phone and update to 2.3.3
Used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119074 and followed it to the letter except didnt delete user data.
Ended up rooted on 2.3.3 - Hooray!
Frooze bloat this time so not to incur same problems as last time.
Rebooted phone and then disaster!!!
Phone kept getting to the Sony Ericsson screen then would reset over and over.
Flashed 2.3.2 again - this time including user data.
Set up all my accounts again, installed all my apps, made sure i could send and recieve calls/messages etc.
Tried to root using gingerbreak but it just hangs at the 1st screen for over an hour.
And this is where I am now. Im on 2.3.2, cant seem to root and dont want to update till i can root lol.
I have tried taking the battery out, lewaving for an hour and then doing the root process again to no avail.

Flipfoot said:
Ok, from the top:
New phone purchased on 2.3.2
Rooted using gingerbreak
Deleted some Bloat
Went to update to 2.3.3 and couldnt due to deleted bloat.
Used SEUS to fix phone and update to 2.3.3
Used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119074 and followed it to the letter except didnt delete user data.
Ended up rooted on 2.3.3 - Hooray!
Frooze bloat this time so not to incur same problems as last time.
Rebooted phone and then disaster!!!
Phone kept getting to the Sony Ericsson screen then would reset over and over.
Flashed 2.3.2 again - this time including user data.
Set up all my accounts again, installed all my apps, made sure i could send and recieve calls/messages etc.
Tried to root using gingerbreak but it just hangs at the 1st screen for over an hour.
And this is where I am now. Im on 2.3.2, cant seem to root and dont want to update till i can root lol.
I have tried taking the battery out, lewaving for an hour and then doing the root process again to no avail.
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Hmmm, shouldnt your phone still be rooted? If you play with the boot loader that will be why SEUS wont work. Bit odd really, should just be able to flash .184 2.3.2, ensure boot loader is locked, install and run gingerbread v1.2 exploit without ANY interruption then update OTA

Hold the Fort!!!!
Just tried gingerbreak again, as Im reading your post, phone has just re-booted.
Ok, now Im rooted!!
Going for the OTA update now. Fingers crossed!
EDIT: Bugger, need to charge up the phone update won't work when under 50%.
I think I'll be ok now.
Its when i come to the next bit. This time I think I'll delete the bloat but keep a note on what I delete so if i need them back at least i know what to look for, and if all else fails i can use SEUS again. Im NEVER unlocking my bootloader lol!

Don't delete any boats... What if 2.3.4 comes out and you want to do another ota update? Last thing you want to do is flash back to 2.3.2 and start all over again. Use titanium to freeze the bloatware.
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Flipfoot said:
Hold the Fort!!!!
Just tried gingerbreak again, as Im reading your post, phone has just re-booted.
Ok, now Im rooted!!
Going for the OTA update now. Fingers crossed!
EDIT: Bugger, need to charge up the phone update won't work when under 50%.
I think I'll be ok now.
Its when i come to the next bit. This time I think I'll delete the bloat but keep a note on what I delete so if i need them back at least i know what to look for, and if all else fails i can use SEUS again. Im NEVER unlocking my bootloader lol!
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Yeah it happens sometimes. I once had to reboot my phone twice and start gingerbreak again before it rooted. I have froze all the bloat i want gone instead of uninstalling. It doesnt free up space on the internal memory but it frees up ram. So reboot is like 1 minute and has the same effects uninstalling would do. No lag e.t.c
Just move your gameloft games to your sd card using titanium backup (free version) will free up internal memory. Saves the trouble of having to reinstall everything when you next want ota update in october. I use Bloat Freezer to freeze the apps i dont want running only £0.61. Does same job as titanium when freezing apps which is £3.83.

Yeah freezins apps is next on the list, or even just deleting them aslong as there ALL backed up. Has anybody backed up all of the apps?, would be a good idea for everybody. Some kind of complete SE 2.3.3 complete backup would be useful for everybody. That way people can delete EVERYTHING they want and not have to worry about SEUS as a restore can be completed Might do it and upload them all into one if anybody is interested??...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036249 Yeah all the apps that come on the phone are on that thread. But i havent uninstalled anything just froze as i have said and moved the games to sd and i have 200+ mb on internal memory and 240 mb of ram which is more than enough. I can then just unfreeze all the bloat i froze and do the ota update with no problems.

Froyo updaters

These are questions for thoses that have used the official update from motorola.
1) Did you have to unroot before updating?
2) Did you have to wipe your phone before the update?
3) Was the update successful?
4) If it was successful, were you able to successfully root again? If so how?
5) If successfully rooted, were you then able to get rid of crapware from ATT?
6) Did you have any problems with the update detecting a non-oem battery? I bought my phone used off ebay so not sure if the battery is oem or not.
Thanks for your help. Im not ready to brick my phone, or not be able to charge my battery if the update doesnt work.

I was able to successfully update my wife's phone this weekend. Her's was not rooted before the update. I wanted to successfully root her's before I update mine. I was able to root her phone with SuperOneClick. After rooting I removed some of the preinstall AT&T stuff.
I'm planning on flashing mine back to stock before updating.

pre4speed said:
These are questions for thoses that have used the official update from motorola.
1) Did you have to unroot before updating?
2) Did you have to wipe your phone before the update?
3) Was the update successful?
4) If it was successful, were you able to successfully root again? If so how?
5) If successfully rooted, were you then able to get rid of crapware from ATT?
6) Did you have any problems with the update detecting a non-oem battery? I bought my phone used off ebay so not sure if the battery is oem or not.
Thanks for your help. Im not ready to brick my phone, or not be able to charge my battery if the update doesnt work.
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1) No
2) No
3) Yes
4) Yes, superoneclick newest version
5) Yes
6) I use the original battery
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Upgraded, but...
I successfully updated to the motorola froyo official release. Im loving how much faster everything runs. Able to root successfully with superoneclick and used titanium backup to remove att crapware. However here is my issue. I used link2sd previously on eclair. Had about 50+ apps on phone with about 40% give or take free. So I was so excited about the apps to sd in froyo. Well, I tried putting back all my apps, using an app I got from market for apps2sd and link2sd for those unable to move per the app. With link2sd, I lost no phone space but as the apps that could be moved got moved to the sd via the market app, my phone space went BYE BYE. Down to 0% free. WTH is going on? I just did a factory reset and am going to try just link2sd and see what happens. Anyone else running into this problem or am I alone in this?

Ok, so
I used just link2sd and had no problems with memory. For some reason, using any app2sd app or the built in move to sd eats up my memory. Makes no sense to me at all, but I now have all my apps back, linked and at 40% free space. Strange.

This is why you should read....
Link2d... moves apk, davlik cache, and lib file...
App2d just moves the apk... so the cache and the library are still installed on /data/
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Edit: you can use titanium backup to take stuff off installed by apps2sd

New Problem
Im having a problem with the phone freezing up now. Only way to remedy is to remove battery. Anyone else?

Yup... though for me its not freezing... the screen shuts off... its still running though...
I could charge it... and somehow once either voice command or vlingo started up... and the white notification led that I didn't know the phone had was flashing
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pre4speed said:
Im having a problem with the phone freezing up now. Only way to remedy is to remove battery. Anyone else?
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Yea i'm having the same issue. I used to have this same issue when I had the motorola backflip. It would always freeze up th first couple times after I flashed a new ROM. After a coulpe times of restarting and pulling the battery, eventually it just fixed itself...hopefully this is the case with this and its not a permanent problem

I have not seen any freezing issues with either of the 2 Flipsides that I have updated.

I hope so too, cuz having to pull the battery at least 5-8 times a day is really frigging annoying! At least it starts much faster than eclair did.

Hello!
I would like to ask for some help about updaters since I was reading some posts of the forum and the mixed results/reports may seems somewhat confuse, so , I would like to ask about help with info about these details in order to try to make an succesfull update froma Beta installed flipside phone without brick it.
1) Anyone of the succesfull updaters were made from a phone with BETA 2.2 installed?
2) In case that update was made from a BETA 2.2 phone, which was the way used to do the succesfull update
a-With Official 2.2 file and Moto windows software?
b-With Official 2.2 file and Linux flash-sbf software?
c-With Official 2.2 file and the in-phone menu option for update.
d-With Official 2.2 file in SD card RENAMED to the name: update.zip and using option in boot recovery menu?
3) Any Update to Official Froyo 2.2 from a BETA 2.2 installed phone was succesfull AFTER a downgrade to eclair 2.1 rom official rom file and WITHOUT BRICKING the phone in the process?
Thank You very much for kind help and best regards!

pre4speed said:
These are questions for thoses that have used the official update from motorola.
1) Did you have to unroot before updating?
2) Did you have to wipe your phone before the update?
3) Was the update successful?
4) If it was successful, were you able to successfully root again? If so how?
5) If successfully rooted, were you then able to get rid of crapware from ATT?
6) Did you have any problems with the update detecting a non-oem battery? I bought my phone used off ebay so not sure if the battery is oem or not.
Thanks for your help. Im not ready to brick my phone, or not be able to charge my battery if the update doesnt work.
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1) I did not unroot my phone before doing the update. I had rooted using Sideloadwonder and z4Root.
2) I did not wipe data from my phone before doing the update. I did have everything backed up in Titanium backup.
3) Yes my update was successful.
4) I was able to root the update with Superoneclickv2.1.1
5) I have uninstalled most of the bloatware from ATT using Titanium backup.
6) I am running an OEM battery so I cannot answer this question.

[Q] Noob question about Titanium Backup...

So I have a rooted play on 2.3.3.
Previously I used OTA to update and keep my root.
However, the latest update will not apply. It downloads, installs...then says can't apply.
I have not removed any apps, and I have unfroze the apps I froze.
So, looks like I am going to have to do a complete roll back and update again.
If I do a complete backup in Titanium, can I simply reinstall everything easily once I get back?
ps. What is the best way to do this so I can keep my root. Previously I downgraded, then rooted, then updated via OTA.
Thanks!

Yes you will be able to restore your TB, when updated, with no problems.
Yes just do it as previously and the OTA to newest firmware will still preserve root.
Regards Dousan...

Thanks Dousan.
Any thoughts on why the OTA update is failing currently?

Red_Kop said:
Thanks Dousan.
Any thoughts on why the OTA update is failing currently?
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I've seen a few with the same issue as you. They also only froze bloat but still no success when OTA after defrost? It might not like any tampering at all with system apps whether it's just freezing or modifying them. Any kind of tampering might leave a trail SE updates detects and then abort updating. Just a guess.
You're welcome, just glad to help out
Regards Dousan...

I unfroze my apps (didnt remove anything off the phone) and applied the ota update no problems . Maybe as Dousan has said you froze something that is safe to uninstall/freeze but once unfroze it is possibly not be running properly or SE has detected it being modified in someway.
Also if you have the pro version of titanium make more than one backup or make another backup of the most important apps data individually since sometimes the backups may be corrupt (might not happen, but better safe than sorry).

Freezing something that is not safe does not affect the ota updating. It's when you delete something that is safe that screws it. I ota updated to the xloud patch with about 15 stock programs frozen.
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I didn't delete anything so it must be something else.

Red_Kop said:
I didn't delete anything so it must be something else.
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Have you at some point installed the leaked SE launcher or Android market or the camera mod? Have you done any modding with UOT kitchen or installed @thomassafca's Samsung theme?
Regards Dousan...

I didn't install the launcher BUT...
I did install the camera mod.
Is this the one that lets you take pics with the R button and focus with L?
https://market.android.com/details?id=seb.camera.mod&feature=search_result
I thought that was ok since it didn't need root.
ps. if I unistall it, do you think update will work?

Red_Kop said:
I didn't install the launcher BUT...
I did install the camera mod.
Is this the one that lets you take pics with the R button and focus with L?
https://market.android.com/details?id=seb.camera.mod&feature=search_result
I thought that was ok since it didn't need root.
ps. if I unistall it, do you think update will work?
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It might, though I don't think so as it installs in /data/app as other non stock/system apps. Try it out it wouldn't hurt.
Regards Dousan...

Nah, it didn't fix it.
I think I will wait until the big update comes out and go the way of downgrading then rooting then updating clean.
Must have been something I did.