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Has anyone who removed bloatware updated to JI6?

I am hearing some people who removed bloatware got soft bricked and then some are saying they didn't. Is there an official word on this? I removed some of the Samsung bloat because I would never use it.
If there is anyone HERE (on a forum I actually trust) that has updated their Vibrant to J16 after removing bloatware and didn't get a softbrick- then I will update. If not, does anyone have the bloat apks? I'd rather just download and install them all again then have to ODIN.

Never mind

DreamcastDC said:
Never mind
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Never mind what? Does this have anything to do with my question?

I did. I removed a bunch of the programs that came installed wroth the phone, such as mobitv, gogo, the gps program by using Titanium Backup.

I had to reflash mine due to this problem.
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Mine soft bricked and didn't even have bloat removed... all I had was root... no lag fix, nothing...... bricked and recovered in less than ten minutes... you would spend more time downloading and installing the bloat back... and when your device bricks anyways your gonna need odin so just use it or leave your phone alone...

I'm hardware blocked from accessing Recovery and Download so I'm trying not to softbrick my phone at all. Not because I don't want to use ODIN but because I do not wanna risk my phone being inoperable.

I was rooted and removed ALL of the Samsung crapware, and yes my phone bricked as a result of the OTA. I was able to flash JI6 via ODIN and everything is working again.
After the OTA, my Vibrant was stuck at the Samsung Vibrant screen.

Would I be able to do all of that through ADB? I'm hardware locked. Not only that, ODIN won't recognize my device!

Yes I removed a lot of bloat and still updated fine through Odin.
Btw, there is now a fix for hardware locked phones. I tried it last night and now my phone can access download and recovery through the vol buttons. Go ahead and get adb set up though--you'll need it to remove the hardware lock.
If Odin isn't working for you, (1) do you have the Samsung phone drivers, and (2) what version of Odin are you using?
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Yeah I removed a bunch of stuff that I didn't user using titanium and I was also using the one click roote and I updated fine using odin.

Just a question, why would people want to remove these applications? does it have something to do with the battery life? or to have more memory for more applications?

It was kind of superfluous in my case since I have more app space than I'll ever need.
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iynfynity said:
Just a question, why would people want to remove these applications? does it have something to do with the battery life? or to have more memory for more applications?
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Because I know I'll never use them and they take up space in the app menu as well as the memory, also a bunch of them start themselves and take up processing power, like the Tel-Nav GPS app.
I rooted then unrooted, can someone explain what exactly Odin is doing and why people's phones are getting bricked? I don't really want to flash a rom or something if that's what Odin is doing. My goal is to keep everything stock minus the bloatware apps.

richiehd said:
If there is anyone HERE (on a forum I actually trust) that has updated their Vibrant to J16 after removing bloatware and didn't get a softbrick- then I will update. If not, does anyone have the bloat apks? I'd rather just download and install them all again then have to ODIN.
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I have updated my Vibrant successfully without any bricks having removed bloatware each time before each upgrade.
I was always stock since I got the phone on release date. Now until JI5 came out, I had never decided to update the phone. When I updated to JI5 on the same day that was leaked, I did so via ODIN and had all the bloatware apps removed (TeleNav, GoGo, Slacker, etc).
When JI6 was leaked, I had done the same process again as above. I already had the bloatware removed before and once again after updating when it all came back.
When the official OTA JI6 came out, I waited a few days but flashed that over the leaked JI6 update without any issues once again via ODIN. I did the same thing again, had removed bloatware prior and again after. I honestly did not believe there was any difference in either prior nor do I see so after. Especially by file size or any fixes that weren't already in the leaked one.
This was just my experience and having removed the bloatware apps and not getting bricked. I never once applied any other modifications either (such as the battery ones, etc).
I did have 2 lag fixes applied (not at the same time) when I was on stock. The first one with terminal commands from a post here on the forums which was removed when I decided to try out One Click Lag Fix which was then removed before I flashed JI5. I have yet to apply a lag fix again with JI5 or JI6, nor will I be anytime soon I think either.

When you say everything is working again, did your bloatware come back? ARe you able to remove it if it did? For some reason I cannot remove the bloatware when it came back.
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Woops, I meant to ask J3ST3RM4A3 this.
but has anyone seen this problem? after going to JI6 the bloat comes back and is not removable?
and if you did remove bloat, with what? ADB? Root explorer? Astro? Titanium? None of these worked for me

i purchased root explorer after i updated to JI6, it seems like such an useful app.
that allowed me to remove all the bloatware after the update.
i updated via KIES mini not OTA (i heard too much **** happened to people who did it the OTA way)
so when you delete your bloatware, they would just pop back? Cause i had that issue prior to updating root explorer. After i updated root explorer (purchasing the latest) i was able to successfully remove the bloat

richiehd said:
I am hearing some people who removed bloatware got soft bricked and then some are saying they didn't. Is there an official word on this? I removed some of the Samsung bloat because I would never use it.
If there is anyone HERE (on a forum I actually trust) that has updated their Vibrant to J16 after removing bloatware and didn't get a softbrick- then I will update. If not, does anyone have the bloat apks? I'd rather just download and install them all again then have to ODIN.
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I had bloat removed prior to JI6. I did step 2 of this and had no trouble whatsoever.

Same. I soft bricked with the OTA update but Odin worked fine. I've heard there may be an issue with leaving the update.zip on your phone while you try to update.

[Q] Think I forced update. Think Im rooted.

Ok so I am really ready to just give up when it comes to Android phones lol. I picked up a MyTouch 4g. I did not receive the update so I decided to do the force update here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843428
The instructions said to also use the guide to permaroot for s=off...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
In settings>about> it still shows 2.2 not 2.2.1 but I have s off, I am using titanium backup and rom manager, with superuser. I deleted stock apps and everything. But for some reason this does not seem right. Shouldnt I be on 2.2.1.
Am I fully rooted or is something else going on. Can someone explain please. I only wanted to root to delete all the bloatware on the phone.

rllong1 said:
Ok so I am really ready to just give up when it comes to Android phones lol. I picked up a MyTouch 4g. I did not receive the update so I decided to do the force update here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843428
The instructions said to also use the guide to permaroot for s=off...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
In settings>about> it still shows 2.2 not 2.2.1 but I have s off, I am using titanium backup and rom manager, with superuser. I deleted stock apps and everything. But for some reason this does not seem right. Shouldnt I be on 2.2.1.
Am I fully rooted or is something else going on. Can someone explain please. I only wanted to root to delete all the bloatware on the phone.
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Before anyone flames you, this is supposed to be in Q&A section. I hope someone answers this for you. I have no experience forcing an update or I would gladly give you advice. Sorry

21productionz said:
Before anyone flames you, this is supposed to be in Q&A section. I hope someone answers this for you. I have no experience forcing an update or I would gladly give you advice. Sorry
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Sorry about the placing. I thought since I was combining two topics about rooting, it should have been here. Sorry guys. I dont know who moves these things but feel free to. Sorry again.

rllong1 said:
Ok so I am really ready to just give up when it comes to Android phones lol. I picked up a MyTouch 4g. I did not receive the update so I decided to do the force update here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843428
The instructions said to also use the guide to permaroot for s=off...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
In settings>about> it still shows 2.2 not 2.2.1 but I have s off, I am using titanium backup and rom manager, with superuser. I deleted stock apps and everything. But for some reason this does not seem right. Shouldnt I be on 2.2.1.
Am I fully rooted or is something else going on. Can someone explain please. I only wanted to root to delete all the bloatware on the phone.
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if you've already removed apps you will have to start over with the downgrading section most likely, but it seems to me like you missed a step somewhere

Ok, I dont know where I am in the process. Like I said, I have apps deleted, superuser, tianium, rom manager. All that. So you suggest starting the downgrade process. Can you send a link please. I am on 2.2 not 2.2.1 and I have s off.

Your best bet is to go back to the force 2.2.1 thread and force the upgrade.
You can check root access in android terminal emulator.
Open it up and type "su" without the quotes. If it come up with the # symbol you have root. If not you don't.
Here is the upgrade thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843428

jjlean said:
Your best bet is to go back to the force 2.2.1 thread and force the upgrade.
You can check root access in android terminal emulator.
Open it up and type "su" without the quotes. If it come up with the # symbol you have root. If not you don't.
Here is the upgrade thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843428
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only problem is he removed apps and the update won't flash if certain apps are missing... but since he used titanium he can try to restore them then flash...

slhpss said:
only problem is he removed apps and the update won't flash if certain apps are missing... but since he used titanium he can try to restore them then flash...
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Yea, you have to restore all the stock apps from what I heard too.

Typed "su" in terminal. I got the pound sign. So im rooted. But to clarify. In order to force that 2.2.1 update I will need to install all apps again then use the guide to force the update.

There is a stock ota backup on here somewhere, use it to get 2.2.1 if you really are rooted.
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rllong1 said:
Typed "su" in terminal. I got the pound sign. So im rooted. But to clarify. In order to force that 2.2.1 update I will need to install all apps again then use the guide to force the update.
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if you have clockwork recovery installed all you need to flash is the update.zip... BUT if you can't get those apps reinstalled it probably won't work... but that depends on which apps you removed and I don't know for sure which ones matter

What apps are removed? You should be able to adb push them back to your phone then just boot into clockwork and flash the update.zip
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Dont give up on Android just yet, this phone is a bit harder to get updated and rooted than most..just takes a bit of patience is all...you'll get it.

couple questions
Ok, I can not use adbs so anything with adb I can not do but thanks. Also How do I get into clockwork recovery? I deleted asphalt 5 game, the demo videos, the tmobile app pack.

Why cant you use adb?
To get into clockwork, you can try using rom manager and selecting boot into recovery or you can power off your phone, pop out your battery for a sec to kill the quick boot then reboot it by holding down the volume down and pushing the power button for a few seconds, release the power while still holding the volume down.

reason for no adb
I use a school pc and thus have no administrator rights to run adb commands. I have rom manager installed but everytime I do the thing that says boot into recovery, it just takes me to a screen with an exclamation point.

Sounds like you dont have clockwork installed.
Go into your rom manager app and select install clockwork recovery

Please post all questions in Q&A section.

Sorry guys.I gave up. I just turned s back on and did a hard reset. Hope I dont get charged. Thanks for everything.

I just rooted my N1 for the first time

OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).

Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.

I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom

Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?

Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.

Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..

Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).

brettbellaire said:
...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.

Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.

bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?

brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!

@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...

bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks

unroot
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks

zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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Froyo updaters

These are questions for thoses that have used the official update from motorola.
1) Did you have to unroot before updating?
2) Did you have to wipe your phone before the update?
3) Was the update successful?
4) If it was successful, were you able to successfully root again? If so how?
5) If successfully rooted, were you then able to get rid of crapware from ATT?
6) Did you have any problems with the update detecting a non-oem battery? I bought my phone used off ebay so not sure if the battery is oem or not.
Thanks for your help. Im not ready to brick my phone, or not be able to charge my battery if the update doesnt work.

I was able to successfully update my wife's phone this weekend. Her's was not rooted before the update. I wanted to successfully root her's before I update mine. I was able to root her phone with SuperOneClick. After rooting I removed some of the preinstall AT&T stuff.
I'm planning on flashing mine back to stock before updating.

pre4speed said:
These are questions for thoses that have used the official update from motorola.
1) Did you have to unroot before updating?
2) Did you have to wipe your phone before the update?
3) Was the update successful?
4) If it was successful, were you able to successfully root again? If so how?
5) If successfully rooted, were you then able to get rid of crapware from ATT?
6) Did you have any problems with the update detecting a non-oem battery? I bought my phone used off ebay so not sure if the battery is oem or not.
Thanks for your help. Im not ready to brick my phone, or not be able to charge my battery if the update doesnt work.
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1) No
2) No
3) Yes
4) Yes, superoneclick newest version
5) Yes
6) I use the original battery
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Upgraded, but...
I successfully updated to the motorola froyo official release. Im loving how much faster everything runs. Able to root successfully with superoneclick and used titanium backup to remove att crapware. However here is my issue. I used link2sd previously on eclair. Had about 50+ apps on phone with about 40% give or take free. So I was so excited about the apps to sd in froyo. Well, I tried putting back all my apps, using an app I got from market for apps2sd and link2sd for those unable to move per the app. With link2sd, I lost no phone space but as the apps that could be moved got moved to the sd via the market app, my phone space went BYE BYE. Down to 0% free. WTH is going on? I just did a factory reset and am going to try just link2sd and see what happens. Anyone else running into this problem or am I alone in this?

Ok, so
I used just link2sd and had no problems with memory. For some reason, using any app2sd app or the built in move to sd eats up my memory. Makes no sense to me at all, but I now have all my apps back, linked and at 40% free space. Strange.

This is why you should read....
Link2d... moves apk, davlik cache, and lib file...
App2d just moves the apk... so the cache and the library are still installed on /data/
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Edit: you can use titanium backup to take stuff off installed by apps2sd

New Problem
Im having a problem with the phone freezing up now. Only way to remedy is to remove battery. Anyone else?

Yup... though for me its not freezing... the screen shuts off... its still running though...
I could charge it... and somehow once either voice command or vlingo started up... and the white notification led that I didn't know the phone had was flashing
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pre4speed said:
Im having a problem with the phone freezing up now. Only way to remedy is to remove battery. Anyone else?
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Yea i'm having the same issue. I used to have this same issue when I had the motorola backflip. It would always freeze up th first couple times after I flashed a new ROM. After a coulpe times of restarting and pulling the battery, eventually it just fixed itself...hopefully this is the case with this and its not a permanent problem

I have not seen any freezing issues with either of the 2 Flipsides that I have updated.

I hope so too, cuz having to pull the battery at least 5-8 times a day is really frigging annoying! At least it starts much faster than eclair did.

Hello!
I would like to ask for some help about updaters since I was reading some posts of the forum and the mixed results/reports may seems somewhat confuse, so , I would like to ask about help with info about these details in order to try to make an succesfull update froma Beta installed flipside phone without brick it.
1) Anyone of the succesfull updaters were made from a phone with BETA 2.2 installed?
2) In case that update was made from a BETA 2.2 phone, which was the way used to do the succesfull update
a-With Official 2.2 file and Moto windows software?
b-With Official 2.2 file and Linux flash-sbf software?
c-With Official 2.2 file and the in-phone menu option for update.
d-With Official 2.2 file in SD card RENAMED to the name: update.zip and using option in boot recovery menu?
3) Any Update to Official Froyo 2.2 from a BETA 2.2 installed phone was succesfull AFTER a downgrade to eclair 2.1 rom official rom file and WITHOUT BRICKING the phone in the process?
Thank You very much for kind help and best regards!

pre4speed said:
These are questions for thoses that have used the official update from motorola.
1) Did you have to unroot before updating?
2) Did you have to wipe your phone before the update?
3) Was the update successful?
4) If it was successful, were you able to successfully root again? If so how?
5) If successfully rooted, were you then able to get rid of crapware from ATT?
6) Did you have any problems with the update detecting a non-oem battery? I bought my phone used off ebay so not sure if the battery is oem or not.
Thanks for your help. Im not ready to brick my phone, or not be able to charge my battery if the update doesnt work.
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1) I did not unroot my phone before doing the update. I had rooted using Sideloadwonder and z4Root.
2) I did not wipe data from my phone before doing the update. I did have everything backed up in Titanium backup.
3) Yes my update was successful.
4) I was able to root the update with Superoneclickv2.1.1
5) I have uninstalled most of the bloatware from ATT using Titanium backup.
6) I am running an OEM battery so I cannot answer this question.

[Q] Noob question about Titanium Backup...

So I have a rooted play on 2.3.3.
Previously I used OTA to update and keep my root.
However, the latest update will not apply. It downloads, installs...then says can't apply.
I have not removed any apps, and I have unfroze the apps I froze.
So, looks like I am going to have to do a complete roll back and update again.
If I do a complete backup in Titanium, can I simply reinstall everything easily once I get back?
ps. What is the best way to do this so I can keep my root. Previously I downgraded, then rooted, then updated via OTA.
Thanks!

Yes you will be able to restore your TB, when updated, with no problems.
Yes just do it as previously and the OTA to newest firmware will still preserve root.
Regards Dousan...

Thanks Dousan.
Any thoughts on why the OTA update is failing currently?

Red_Kop said:
Thanks Dousan.
Any thoughts on why the OTA update is failing currently?
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I've seen a few with the same issue as you. They also only froze bloat but still no success when OTA after defrost? It might not like any tampering at all with system apps whether it's just freezing or modifying them. Any kind of tampering might leave a trail SE updates detects and then abort updating. Just a guess.
You're welcome, just glad to help out
Regards Dousan...

I unfroze my apps (didnt remove anything off the phone) and applied the ota update no problems . Maybe as Dousan has said you froze something that is safe to uninstall/freeze but once unfroze it is possibly not be running properly or SE has detected it being modified in someway.
Also if you have the pro version of titanium make more than one backup or make another backup of the most important apps data individually since sometimes the backups may be corrupt (might not happen, but better safe than sorry).

Freezing something that is not safe does not affect the ota updating. It's when you delete something that is safe that screws it. I ota updated to the xloud patch with about 15 stock programs frozen.
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I didn't delete anything so it must be something else.

Red_Kop said:
I didn't delete anything so it must be something else.
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Have you at some point installed the leaked SE launcher or Android market or the camera mod? Have you done any modding with UOT kitchen or installed @thomassafca's Samsung theme?
Regards Dousan...

I didn't install the launcher BUT...
I did install the camera mod.
Is this the one that lets you take pics with the R button and focus with L?
https://market.android.com/details?id=seb.camera.mod&feature=search_result
I thought that was ok since it didn't need root.
ps. if I unistall it, do you think update will work?

Red_Kop said:
I didn't install the launcher BUT...
I did install the camera mod.
Is this the one that lets you take pics with the R button and focus with L?
https://market.android.com/details?id=seb.camera.mod&feature=search_result
I thought that was ok since it didn't need root.
ps. if I unistall it, do you think update will work?
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It might, though I don't think so as it installs in /data/app as other non stock/system apps. Try it out it wouldn't hurt.
Regards Dousan...

Nah, it didn't fix it.
I think I will wait until the big update comes out and go the way of downgrading then rooting then updating clean.
Must have been something I did.