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hero annoyances

i tried searching the google for solutions to these, but couldn't seem to find any solutions in the "other" forums that came up in the results. i was hoping someone here might have an answers.
coming from WinMo, the biggest annoyances on the hero for me are:1) when i'm playing music off the phone and i receive any sort of notification, the music pauses for like 2 seconds plays the notification sound pauses then resumes the music instead of the just playing the notification sound over the music the pause happens even if i have the phone set to vibrate mode...just no notification sound..this is extremely annoying. 2) also i noticed the power button and end call button are the same button which is ok, but when i'm leaving voicemails i have a tendancy to just hit hang up when im done however i noticed that if the screen goes off during my call and i press end call it just turns the screen back on instead of ending my call...extremely dangerous when leaving messages..
does anyone have any solutions or workarounds for these?
thanks!

The AOSP 1.6 roms solve the issue with the end button, as it is the ONLY way to hang up a call in vanilla Home Android. Notification w/ Music? Didn't test that yet, but the 1.6 roms are definitely worth a try. I'll get back to you on the music notification thing. Hope this helped.
EDIT: Apparently it solves both issues. Hope I helped you with this. If you like Sense UI, the AOSP roms aren't for you, they do away with Sense.

HeroMeng said:
The AOSP 1.6 roms solve the issue with the end button, as it is the ONLY way to hang up a call in vanilla Home Android.
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Can you clarify this a bit? What do you mean by it is the only way to hang up a call? Are you saying in AOSP the screen just stays on for the entire duration of the call?

if you press the "menu" button after the screen shuts off during a call, it'll turn back on, at which point you can either press the red button, or the "end call" button on the screen.
Or, if you pull the phone away from your ear and see that the screen is off, and want to end the call, hit the red button twice in quick succession, and it'll turn on then hang up within a second or two

The idiot who decided to make the power button and the hang up button one button should be shot, IMHO! Yes there are workarounds and ways to handle it but they require too much thought and it's just way too easy to hang up on somebody.
Also, the interrupt the music (or podcast) to play the alarm is dumb too. Additionally it's not like they pause the music rather the music runs onward and, if you happen to be listening to a podcasts where the words are important you can miss key concepts and have to rewind.
I've flashed the 2.1 ROM with HTC Sense. I would not put it beyond the HTC guys to have messed it up and made it so that the alarm still interrupts the music. The power button thing is definitely not solved in this ROM.
But by far my biggest complaint is improper handling of AVRCP. 2.1 is better but it's still not even good. If I start Google Listen and am listening to a podcast then I can hit pause on my bluetooth headset and it works. If, however, I navigate away from Google Listen then the pause button doesn't work at all. Often it'll start the HTC Music app and then I'll have both the podcast AND music playing. Brilliant!

just a thought but maybe you should have looked into the phone before purchasing. and being rude and saying that the 2.1 isnt any good is really insulting to all the devs that have worked really hard on that rom considering that it was built well before the kernel source came out. and im sorry but if you cant remember to hit menu and then end instead of just end then maybe you should just get a flip phone. as far as the notification over the music goes, gee lets think about this, your listening to music and you get a text hmmmmmmm maybe you want to be NOTIFIED that you got a text.
my advice. Either go back to a winmo phone or get a flip.

i don't think he meant to insult the developers..the hero is definitely a great phone and androids is awesome, but there are bugs and what better way to solve them them to point them out and discuss them.
its not so much that you cant remember to hit end twice or press menu and then hit end, but its the fact that you have to take the extra step. and text messaging thing, yes it lets me know that i have a text, but i would have known that if it played the sound concurrently or if it just flashed the lights, but ok that's not major issue i understand some people like to hear the sound separately. however, if i have the phone on vibrate and am playing music, it still pauses the music when a notification comes even tho it doesn't play the notification sounds..that's just plain ridiculous.
i mean if i'm paying for a high end phone i kind of expect to manufacturer to have done research and testing in UI and human interaction to address these kind of issues.

btw i found this app in market call "proximity sensor" that kind of fixes the end call problem. when you are on a call it uses the light sensor to detect if you have the phone up to your head and it dims the screen and turns it back on when it sees light. the only hickups are if you are in a dark area you have to hit back to get the screen back on as there wont be any light for it detect and also it doesn't turn off the screen just dims it..so might kill your battery a bit quicker, but all in all i tihnk it's pretty nice.

defaria said:
The idiot who decided to make the power button and the hang up button one button should be shot, IMHO! Yes there are workarounds and ways to handle it but they require too much thought and it's just way too easy to hang up on somebody.
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There's a good number of phones like that. Treo 700p, 755p, 800w, Samsung Rant, Sanyo SCP-3100 just to name a few. Actually, the Blackberry that I have for work is the only phone that I have used recently that has a separate power button.
I think I had a Nokia that had a separate power button.

ajaholic said:
i don't think he meant to insult the developers..the hero is definitely a great phone and androids is awesome, but there are bugs and what better way to solve them them to point them out and discuss them.
its not so much that you cant remember to hit end twice or press menu and then hit end, but its the fact that you have to take the extra step. and text messaging thing, yes it lets me know that i have a text, but i would have known that if it played the sound concurrently or if it just flashed the lights, but ok that's not major issue i understand some people like to hear the sound separately. however, if i have the phone on vibrate and am playing music, it still pauses the music when a notification comes even tho it doesn't play the notification sounds..that's just plain ridiculous.
i mean if i'm paying for a high end phone i kind of expect to manufacturer to have done research and testing in UI and human interaction to address these kind of issues.
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Actually, I like having to hit End twice. When I had my Treo phones (700p, 755p and 800w), I would always hit the red end button to turn on the screen. The problem is, if the screen goes off while you are on a call, I accidentally hang up on the person because I was trying to turn my screen back on.
I guess it is more of a preference.

So many things to say... First off wtphoto, I was not really given an opportunity to check out the phone at the time. Here's the deal: My last phone just broke - the screen would not turn on. Now for a long time I've been wanted to switch to Android but honestly I was waiting for the HD2 and Android to be put on it. I was unemployed at the time but just got a job up in Seattle. I was flying out to look for a place to live and I needed to keep in touch with head hunters, the contracting agency, etc. when, as I said, my phone died. So I bought the HTC Hero on a whim rather then going with another WinMo phone. OK. So stop assuming things and ask questions first.
Being rude?!? Hardly. You ain't seen rude yet. I was merely voicing my opinion. As for the "devs" as you say, we're not talking about HTC developers here - we're talking about ROM cookers and yes they work hard. But I don't think they are re-writing drivers or anything like that.
As for hitting menu first or whatever, listen, it's a legitimate complaint. It's foolish to make the button that turns the screen blank and locks it the same button that will hang up on the current call. Pick any other button!
As for the proximity sensor thing - actually the 2.1 ROM has that. However I rarely, if ever, put the phone up to my ear. I use a bluetooth headset - actually a stereo headset. Besides, the proximity sensor app simply and always blanked the screen and locked it. Let me repeat. I use my bluetooth headset. So I take out my phone and I dial the number. I don't even move the phone anywhere close to my face. The proximity sensor blanks and locks the phone. And often I'm about to talk to a menuing system where I'll have to hit 1 for English etc. To me the proximity sensor serves no purpose because often the first thing I need to do it disable it.
Perhaps unlike you wtphoto, I have ears which are capable of hearing both music (or spoken text) AND an alert at the same time! Point is this should be an option - you choose your way and I'll choose mine - OK?
But ajaholic is right - I was not dissing developers I was stating the problems I was having with the phone - much like the OP. You don't like my "tone". Tough ****! Get used to it.
Indeed if I'm gonna pay hundreds of dollars for a phone that I'll have to live with for years you bet your sweet ass I'm gonna be picky. Do your homework and remember Rule #1 - THE CUSTOMER I ALWAYS RIGHT. Further - Rule #2 - See Rule #1.

defaria said:
and remember Rule #1 - THE CUSTOMER I ALWAYS RIGHT. Further - Rule #2 - See Rule #1.
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not where i work.

Who is the customer of xda-dev? Dude needs to get a life.

theresthatguy said:
not where i work.
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HAHA Me Either, I get off on proving them wrong.

defaria said:
So many things to say... First off wtphoto, I was not really given an opportunity to check out the phone at the time. Here's the deal: My last phone just broke - the screen would not turn on. Now for a long time I've been wanted to switch to Android but honestly I was waiting for the HD2 and Android to be put on it. I was unemployed at the time but just got a job up in Seattle. I was flying out to look for a place to live and I needed to keep in touch with head hunters, the contracting agency, etc. when, as I said, my phone died. So I bought the HTC Hero on a whim rather then going with another WinMo phone. OK. So stop assuming things and ask questions first.
Being rude?!? Hardly. You ain't seen rude yet. I was merely voicing my opinion. As for the "devs" as you say, we're not talking about HTC developers here - we're talking about ROM cookers and yes they work hard. But I don't think they are re-writing drivers or anything like that.
As for hitting menu first or whatever, listen, it's a legitimate complaint. It's foolish to make the button that turns the screen blank and locks it the same button that will hang up on the current call. Pick any other button!
As for the proximity sensor thing - actually the 2.1 ROM has that. However I rarely, if ever, put the phone up to my ear. I use a bluetooth headset - actually a stereo headset. Besides, the proximity sensor app simply and always blanked the screen and locked it. Let me repeat. I use my bluetooth headset. So I take out my phone and I dial the number. I don't even move the phone anywhere close to my face. The proximity sensor blanks and locks the phone. And often I'm about to talk to a menuing system where I'll have to hit 1 for English etc. To me the proximity sensor serves no purpose because often the first thing I need to do it disable it.
Perhaps unlike you wtphoto, I have ears which are capable of hearing both music (or spoken text) AND an alert at the same time! Point is this should be an option - you choose your way and I'll choose mine - OK?
But ajaholic is right - I was not dissing developers I was stating the problems I was having with the phone - much like the OP. You don't like my "tone". Tough ****! Get used to it.
Indeed if I'm gonna pay hundreds of dollars for a phone that I'll have to live with for years you bet your sweet ass I'm gonna be picky. Do your homework and remember Rule #1 - THE CUSTOMER I ALWAYS RIGHT. Further - Rule #2 - See Rule #1.
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in rebut,
if you are unemployed why did you buy a $580 phone "on a whim" to begin with, I know for myself if I am spending more than $100 on something I am going to know as much as I can about the product BEFORE I purchase. second if you want to *****, ***** to HTC they are the ones that designed the phone, the devs here can only do so much. And yes if you actually read through the 2.1 thread toast and lox did have to re-write A LOT of code to get it working with the hacked up kernel that is on the CDMA hero.
I will agree that it would be NICE to be able to set the lock button like you can on the blackberry's, but it really isnt that big of a deal it took all of about 5 phone calls to get used to hitting menu then end. instead of just complaining why not try to get used to the way the phone works.
addressing the notification issue again, HTC built a phone that a MAJORITY of people liked. They can not design a phone just for you. deal with it or sell the phone and buy a winmo.
as far as your tone. untill you start compiling the kernel and cooking up ROMs, why not just be thankful that there are people out there willing to put in as much time and work as flipz, toast, lox, chuck, TTG, MoDaCo, GBhil and the rest and then release their work at no charge AND support the work that they do so that we as a community can enjoy our phones just a little more. Not to mention people like godzon, Noj, and Emerica who are putting out themes and add on's.
and the truth of the matter is that the customer is normally WRONG. most of the customers that I deal with are like you, they just want to find something to ***** about and try and get something that they feel they deserve but in actuality they dont.
as far as being picky, once again I point to the fact that you say you bought a $580 phone "on a whim" you cant be too picky when you do something like that.

Just an FYI on the Notifications and the sounds pausing - I think it is because our audio buffer is too small. Should be able to do something with it now that we have a kernel. I haven't touched the source much since it came out, but I'll see if I can at least track it down.

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if you are unemployed why did you buy a $580 phone "on a whim" to begin with,
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I'm very much gainfully employed. I was between contracts and actually I already had a contract and was flying to Seattle to look for an apt to move to. It was no so much "on a whim" rather I didn't want to go back to a WinMo phone, which would have locked me into another contract and I needed a working phone for the journey to conduct business - apparently something you know little about...
I know for myself if I am spending more than $100 on something I am going to know as much as I can about the product BEFORE I purchase.
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That's because $100 represents a lot more of your disposable income than mine.
second if you want to *****, ***** to HTC they are the ones that designed the phone, the devs here can only do so much.
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Dude, I'm complaining about *software* problems. If the devs here are devs then what do they develop but software?
And yes if you actually read through the 2.1 thread toast and lox did have to re-write A LOT of code to get it working with the hacked up kernel that is on the CDMA hero.
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Wonderful.
I will agree that it would be NICE to be able to set the lock button like you can on the blackberry's, but it really isnt that big of a deal it took all of about 5 phone calls to get used to hitting menu then end. instead of just complaining why not try to get used to the way the phone works.
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Conform or else eh? Whatever you do do not mention that you don't like the way it works because lord knows somebody might fix it! Let me ask you this, why does it bother you so that somebody may wish to have it work in an more intelligent fashion instead of having to get used to an asinine way of doing things? And yes it is a big deal when you hang up on important people - perhaps you've never met any...
addressing the notification issue again, HTC built a phone that a MAJORITY of people liked. They can not design a phone just for you. deal with it or sell the phone and buy a winmo.
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Wonderful attitude there bud "Well everybody else likes it (because anybody who complains we call an idiot) so why don't you just shut up and get used to it". Regardless if HTC built the phone or not, surely the software could be taught to be flexible and - I'd say - reasonably intelligent (unlike some posters here).
as far as your tone. untill you start compiling the kernel and cooking up ROMs, why not just be thankful that there are people out there willing to put in as much time and work as flipz, toast, lox, chuck, TTG, MoDaCo, GBhil and the rest and then release their work at no charge AND support the work that they do so that we as a community can enjoy our phones just a little more. Not to mention people like godzon, Noj, and Emerica who are putting out themes and add on's.
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Did I ever say I wasn't thankful? If there's any doubt - thanks. However surely you're not saying that everything is 100% perfect and you allow people to have an opinion that differs from yours... Then again, perhaps not.
and the truth of the matter is that the customer is normally WRONG.
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And this son is why you'll never be that successful and $100 will always represent a lot of money to you - *YOUR* attitude.
most of the customers that I deal with are like you, they just want to find something to ***** about and try and get something that they feel they deserve but in actuality they dont.
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Ditto here too. Let's take the interruption when an alarm goes off. Surely some people like and perhaps favor that. But as assuredly others might prefer it not to. Who is right? Answer is both are right because they have different desires and neither is more right than the other. But you brand this as "a customer who just likes to ***** and get something they don't deserve".
as far as being picky, once again I point to the fact that you say you bought a $580 phone "on a whim" you cant be too picky when you do something like that.
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Well it was not $580 - it was used thus around $250 and I also got out of my contract. As I said I had the option of getting another WinMo phone and a 2 year contract or HTC Hero used with no contract. I took the later as I wanted Android and I figured I could update to other hardware (Nexus, HTC HD2 or whatever) and perhaps the provider down the road.

[Q] Turns on too easily

I have what I suspect is an unusual problem: my Nexus 7 turns ON too easily.
I got it last year for use on a sailing boat, for communication and to get weather forecasts. It uses a lot more power than I'd like (compared with the Nokia N810 I replaced) and there's not much available for recharging. We occasionally have mains power, but mostly it's 12v solar-generated - and it's inefficient and takes ages to recharge via a converter.
So I keep it turned off for 23½ hours a day. My problem is that it easily turns itself on: in a locker with the boat crashing about under sail the button gets pressed and I find it's been on for hours and has lost most of its charge.
So - to the point - I want a mod to make it difficult to turn on. Having to press the button for a full 15 seconds, or a 'Did you really want to turn this on?" prompt which times out, or something like that: anything that will stop it turning itself on. Is it possible?
It's been rooted (I need to send SMSes so I installed a replacement messenger) but uses the standard version of Android.

Have you thought about getting a case or sleeve? It would protect your device from getting knocked around in the locker and prevent it from accidentally turning on.

Amen to the case, which could net you a stiffer button. Heck, even a DIY loop of cardboard around the power button would do the trick (although it would admittedly look ugly).

Username invalid said:
Have you thought about getting a case or sleeve? It would protect your device from getting knocked around in the locker and prevent it from accidentally turning on.
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Of course I have - I made one to keep it in - not wholly effective. And I have a blue rubbery case that is effective but horrible. But this is a software forum - somebody here might know how to change the turn-on sequence.

I doubt what you are asking is possible. In fact I'm fairly sure it isn't.
If you don't want to spring for a better case, to protect it too if its getting whipped around like you say.....then there's a pretty simple answer. Put it somewhere secure? Where it can't move, or have anything hit it.
One day you'll go to grab it and the screen will be cracked.
No software will interrupt it from turning on. Most software isn't even active until the system is booted up. And devs will never make anything like a are you sure prompt, because why????
So again....better case or a secure storage location. Which it should have anyway....if it is constantly flopping around....I will break one day....guaranteed.
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kj2112 said:
I doubt what you are asking is possible. In fact I'm fairly sure it isn't...
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Well, it's a long shot I know. I accept that I'm unlikely to find anything to do what I want, but I don't accept that it's impossible. The length of button-press must be programmed somewhere so it can theoretically be changed. ISTR it also reacts to combinations of buttons - on and volume (I forget what) so that can be changed too.
When I listed the things I disliked about the Nexus this was top. The real problem is that the button is too prominent - bad design IMO - Nokia phones never had this problem. It's too easy to turn off too - but that's not serious.

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Well, it's a long shot I know. I accept that I'm unlikely to find anything to do what I want, but I don't accept that it's impossible. The length of button-press must be programmed somewhere so it can theoretically be changed. ISTR it also reacts to combinations of buttons - on and volume (I forget what) so that can be changed too.
When I listed the things I disliked about the Nexus this was top. The real problem is that the button is too prominent - bad design IMO - Nokia phones never had this problem. It's too easy to turn off too - but that's not serious.
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Oh I agree, anything is possible! But without widespread demand, its unlikely anyone with the know how would ever work on it. And I can safely say your the first I've ever heard ask about this.
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Oh and again....many say the N7 screen is fragile....if yours is bouncing around enough to turn itself on, there's a good chance it'll crack.
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[Q] Too easy to accidentally dial 911

I have my corporate email account added on my phone which REQUIRES the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen to be activated.
On LG G2 the default lock screen has a button "Emergency call - Press and hold". A call to 911 is dialed immediately when you accidentally press it for 2 seconds.
My 2-year-old boy has accidentally dialed 911 four times and each time 911 called me back and they'll send someone to check out next time.
To use my corporate email account I can't disable the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen. Is there a way to remove that stupid button, or change the "911" to be a invalid number?

You can buy a fake phone for your 2-year-old kid

He got 2 "nice" VTech phones already. I didn't give my phone to him by intention.
The problem is that sometimes I placed my phone on the table - maybe just 2 minutes, and he sometimes got the chance to grab the phone and the first thing he did is to "press and hold" that stupid button.
If the phone is not locked, it is harder for him to dial 911 - but I can't disable the lock screen due to corporate's policy.
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You can buy a fake phone for your 2-year-old kid
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Same thing happens when I leave guns around the house.
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qiushengxy said:
He got 2 "nice" VTech phones already. I didn't give my phone to him by intention.
The problem is that sometimes I placed my phone on the table - maybe just 2 minutes, and he sometimes got the chance to grab the phone and the first thing he did is to "press and hold" that stupid button.
If the phone is not locked, it is harder for him to dial 911 - but I can't disable the lock screen due to corporate's policy.
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Alright, to other outsiders looking in and still wondering which phone to choose, here is a perfect example of how beautiful this G2 is, it's up to the point that even a 2 years old kid would know/realize the beauty of this phone is and choose it.
Anyway, to OP, keep out of reach of children. You can do better than that, m8.

votinh said:
Alright, to other outsiders looking in and still wondering which phone to choose, here is a perfect example of how beautiful this G2 is, it's up to the point that even a 2 years old kid would know/realize the beauty of this phone is and choose it.
Anyway, to OP, keep out of reach of children. You can do better than that, m8.
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Hey, I am looking for a technical solution here.
I know I have to keep my LG G2 out of reach of children, I've got the lesson, but unlike a gun in the previous post, we are using the phone very frequently and there are chances that you inadvertently leave the phone somewhere that is reachable by a baby.

a. We know you are looking for a technical solution but it has to be reasonable. That feature built for emergency purpose as when you are in the panic mode, you can't remember that pwd for that moment, you need to access the phone and call for help. It's there for a reason.
b. Instead of looking for a "technical solution" that virtually nowhere to be found, why don't you invest into other solutions
+ In 365 days in a year, how many times you let your kid gets to the phone? Seriously, nobody mock you but we do expect parent can do more than that. If you can't do with 2 years old kid, how would you deal with 6 years old one and later? Change your style, seriously.
+ If you really really don't care changing your style and still want it, I think you can root your phone and install the modded version of Email which does bypass the restriction. I did it when still own the SGS2-i777, I don't know there is such a modded. like that for G2.
Anyway, solutions are surely out there but the quickest solution is your control.
It's from the bottom of my heart, no mocking here.

Install maildroid app. **** the police.
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votinh said:
a. We know you are looking for a technical solution but it has to be reasonable. That feature built for emergency purpose as when you are in the panic mode, you can't remember that pwd for that moment, you need to access the phone and call for help. It's there for a reason.
b. Instead of looking for a "technical solution" that virtually nowhere to be found, why don't you invest into other solutions
+ In 365 days in a year, how many times you let your kid gets to the phone? Seriously, nobody mock you but we do expect parent can do more than that. If you can't do with 2 years old kid, how would you deal with 6 years old one and later? Change your style, seriously.
+ If you really really don't care changing your style and still want it, I think you can root your phone and install the modded version of Email which does bypass the restriction. I did it when still own the SGS2-i777, I don't know there is such a modded. like that for G2.
Anyway, solutions are surely out there but the quickest solution is your control.
It's from the bottom of my heart, no mocking here.
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There is no other phone like G2 that make the dialing of 911 so easy - you may call out to 911 easily when the phone is in your pocket, or even in your own hand - many G2 users without kids are already complaining about it - the solution is to disable the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen, which for me is enforced by the security policy.
I understand a button on the lock screen for real emergency, but it's really too easy compared to iPhones or any other Android phones - they just open a dial pad for you.

qiushengxy said:
I have my corporate email account added on my phone which REQUIRES the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen to be activated.
On LG G2 the default lock screen has a button "Emergency call - Press and hold". A call to 911 is dialed immediately when you accidentally press it for 2 seconds.
My 2-year-old boy has accidentally dialed 911 four times and each time 911 called me back and they'll send someone to check out next time.
To use my corporate email account I can't disable the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen. Is there a way to remove that stupid button, or change the "911" to be a invalid number?
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Just downl. zoodles and u good
http://www.zoodles.com/en/home/marketing
btw i NEVER dialled emerg. by mistake on my F320S

GalaxySIIII said:
Just downl. zoodles and u good
btw i NEVER dialled emerg. by mistake on my F320S
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I do not plan to give my phone to my kid.
Zoodles doesn't help because what I want to avoid is that when my baby accidentally reaches my phone while it is in locked mode, he can't place a 911 call easily. Even 2-step dialing is complex enough for him.
LG G2 is the only phone that "support" the 1-touch-to-911 feature.

qiushengxy said:
I do not plan to give my phone to my kid.
Zoodles doesn't help because what I want to avoid is that when my baby accidentally reaches my phone while it is in locked mode, he can't place a 911 call easily. Even 2-step dialing is complex enough for him.
LG G2 is the only phone that "support" the 1-touch-to-911 feature.
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where is that one touch feature ?!?!?! i dont have it on mine
uninstall it with app master

I got a real chuckle out of this thread. Thanks guys.
As a parent of four, all of which have graduated High School and two from college so far, I gotta say that your solution is in parenting. Teach the crumb snatcher to keep his hands off of things that don't belong to him and be smart enough to place objects higher than two feet up. It's really not as hard as you seem to think it is.
Or maybe just quit your job, get rid of the corporate email, and watch your kid 24\7.

qiushengxy said:
I do not plan to give my phone to my kid.
Zoodles doesn't help because what I want to avoid is that when my baby accidentally reaches my phone while it is in locked mode, he can't place a 911 call easily. Even 2-step dialing is complex enough for him.
LG G2 is the only phone that "support" the 1-touch-to-911 feature.
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My D800 actually has one long touch (press and hold) then another short touch to 911 (other is 112)
So it's like 2-touch feature.

GalaxySIIII said:
where is that one touch feature ?!?!?! i dont have it on mine
uninstall it with app master
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It's a button on the PIN/PASSWORD lock screen, under the password pad.
You touch it for 1-2 second and you are already connected with 911.

I would try this and if it asks to confirm for 911/Emergency Dial then you can get Pro to also add a password to dial. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vladlee.callconfirm.free
You could just make that one number password protected/confirmed if you want. Or whitelist certain numbers.
--VS980

osugsxr said:
Same thing happens when I leave guns around the house.
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ROFL

Theft proofing your phone!

I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
This is how I did it. First you need the following:
- A handset whose battery cannot be removed (at least very easily like the Moto G/Nexus 5/Moto X)
- Root
- Xposed Framework
- Xposed Framework Gravitybox module
- Anti-theft app (the one that I use is cerberus https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en)
- Bringrr or any other bluetooth perimeter based tracker (optional but recommended)
It's a fairly straight forward procedure. I'll lay it out in steps.
Step 1:
- Buy a phone whose battery cannot be removed
Step 2:
- Root the phone
Step 3:
- Set a pattern or number lock on your phone.
Step 4:
- Install XposedFramework
Step 5:
- Download and install Gravitybox module from within the Xposedframework
Step 6:
Go into the Gravityox module from the app drawer, then go into "Power Tweaks" and then check the "Disable power menu on lockscreen" option. This ensures that when your phone is locked (assumption is that you keep your phone locked or secured), nobody can turn it off or lower the volume. This is crucial when it comes to theft. Usually when a thief steals a phone, the first thing he does is he turns it off or removes the battery or reduces the volume to zero, but if he can't do any of these then the thief has a tracker in his hands and he's in deep ****za.
Step 7:
- Install an anti-theft app. I recommend cerberus. It's very versatile and wholesome. I really like the fact that you can actually make it into a system app which means that even if the thief were to somehow turn off the phone and then turn it on again and crack your pass code or pattern lock and factory reset the phone from the settings, the cerberus app will still be there doing it's job of tracking your phone.
There's only one way of getting around this as far as I can tell but I don't think I'm going to tell you how. That would defeat the purpose of this little guide
Step 8:
- Get a bluetooth location trackr. I like bringrr. It seems to get better reviews than the others one floating out there. It's a bluetooth device that plugs into your car's cig lighter socket and connects to your phone's bluetooth. If you leave your phone in a cafe and come back to the car, the bringrr will warn you or alert you that your phone isn't with you. It also has small little tags which you can put in your wallet and then your wallet and your phone and your car, all can communicate with each other. So, it's a nice preventive measure.

Even if you disable the power menu you can just hold down the power button until it turns off.

True....but that's not true if you havent confirmed it yet.
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also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done

Alpha_wolf said:
also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance

mufakir said:
holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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i agree with you i was just throwing those out there cause there are people like us that use their power for evil lol

mufakir said:
I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
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Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.

mawells787 said:
Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
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Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.

mufakir said:
Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
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1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.

I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.

carry AK47 in front seat of car, problem solved!

Turn in android device manager with location reporting. It will track your phone down for you.

fury683 said:
I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
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yea, but it's such painstaking work man. gonna do that today.

mawells787 said:
1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
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Well, all I know about crime in the States is what I see in tv shows, but yea, it's everywhere. crime and criminals that is.

I prefer keeping my phone by my side at all times....to battery sucking theft solutions.
But to each their own!!
Good info here for sure! ?

In my opinion it's better to leave the phone without a pin because, if i were an average theft who doesn't know that much about phones, I'd just remove the accounts, the Sim card and apps. Maybe I would do a factory reset and with that I'd be happy so cerberus would survive.
Also I'd recommend you to hide cerberus from the drawer and make it only available from the dialer.
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Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.

treyf711 said:
Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
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I thought that just rebooted, similar to holding POWER and VOL DOWN for a while to simulate a battery pull on Moto devices.

Fingerprint scanner just sucks!!!

Today I finally had enough and went back to pattern. The scanner seems to get worse over time. Been using since day one and I typically get it after 2nd try, but now I'm having to wait 30 secs to get in. I've scanned my thumb every direction possible.

that is exactly the problem mate,
stop scanning your finger in every possible direction....
use only one direction and use it in that direction.....
ppl using it the 'normal' way get 100% succes.

friedje said:
that is exactly the problem mate,
stop scanning your finger in every possible direction....
use only one direction and use it in that direction.....
ppl using it the 'normal' way get 100% succes.
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Let me try it that way before I thank you....lol

EVOme said:
Today I finally had enough and went back to pattern. The scanner seems to get worse over time. Been using since day one and I typically get it after 2nd try, but now I'm having to wait 30 secs to get in. I've scanned my thumb every direction possible.
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If you're trying to unlock while holding the device with one hand it'll never work. The phone is huge and it's almost impossible to swipe correctly with the correct direction with one hand. Either hold the phone and unlock with your index finger of the other hand (this is the best setup for 100% success) or just go back to pattern (what I ended up doing). To be honest the iPhone set up is a million times better.

Multiple threads on this. For some people it works, for others like me its a nightmare. You will find many people trying to convince you that you are doing it wrong, but you're most probably doing it right. I hate the fingerprint scanner for unlocking my device, because it just takes too long. I have my device unprotected and use private mode to hide naked pictures of the wife

EVOme said:
Today I finally had enough and went back to pattern. The scanner seems to get worse over time. Been using since day one and I typically get it after 2nd try, but now I'm having to wait 30 secs to get in. I've scanned my thumb every direction possible.
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Have you set up the fingerprint scanner in the exact same way as shown in the video in my topic here?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-fingerprint-scanner-bad-inaccurate-t2919453
My fingerprint scanner is very accurate and i have success about 95% of all times i'm using it.
And guess what?
You can even swipe upwards with your registered fingers after you have registered them downwards. Here is my own video that shows that.

KarimSalloum said:
If you're trying to unlock while holding the device with one hand it'll never work. The phone is huge and it's almost impossible to swipe correctly with the correct direction with one hand. Either hold the phone and unlock with your index finger of the other hand (this is the best setup for 100% success) or just go back to pattern (what I ended up doing). To be honest the iPhone set up is a million times better.
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I am and always hold it in right hand and unlock with right thumb.
ozaghloul said:
Multiple threads on this. For some people it works, for others like me its a nightmare. You will find many people trying to convince you that you are doing it wrong, but you're most probably doing it right. I hate the fingerprint scanner for unlocking my device, because it just takes too long. I have my device unprotected and use private mode to hide naked pictures of the wife
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Yeah i have an iPhone 6 as well and the scanner is 100%. Cannot not leave unlocked...too many naked pics of GF in there....no really! Trade?
j/k
Tom-Helge said:
Have you set up the fingerprint scanner in the exact same way as shown in the video in my topic here?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-fingerprint-scanner-bad-inaccurate-t2919453
My fingerprint scanner is very accurate and i have success about 95% of all times i'm using it.
And guess what?
You can even swipe upwards with your registered fingers after you have registered them downwards. Here is my own video that shows that.
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You may be onto something here....didn't know you could go up. I just changed my right thumb to that. Seems to be working. What I have discovered after reading these posts...You have to scan finger SLOW....otherwise...fail fail fail. For the last 4 days I've had a pattern on which i am OK with, but I feel like I am selling myself short.

I've found a pretty good success rate by using my right thumb and swiping as if I have something like gum stuck to it and I'm using the home key to get it off my finger. It sounds weird, but it works better than a simple swipe. Doesn't take longer, just a lot more reliable.

That makes sense. Do you guys think the way apple has done it is patented to them? Samsung had to play around with the iPhone and see how nice touch ID is before they released this. My GFs S5 is equally as bad.