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@All,
As a celebration for my 1000th post, I decided to open a new thread based on Tweakman's idea, which seemed to work very well in the Development and Hacking Section. The idea is simple, a single thread for all Questions, Problems, and Concerns regarding Blue Angel. This includes, but it is not limited to:
[highlight]*Problems with Flashing.[/highlight]
Can't get your device in bootloader? Did it freeze during flashing and now it doesn't get past the 4 colored screen? Are you a complete noob and need some guidance as to how to flash? Etc.
[highlight]*Have questions about which Rom is best?[/highlight]
[highlight]*Want to install software but don't know if it is compatible with your BA[/highlight]
You get my point. All the questions that I have seen/answered over the past couple of months are just repetitions of posts, threads, and things that are readily available on the wiki or in other threads. However, people are either lazy, don't know what a Wiki is / where to find it, or just flat out don't know how to search (or read the forum rules for that matter). Having something general (in this case a sticky) that says "Hey, if you have a question, you can ask here" should draw enough attention and start minimizing the number of new threads and posts opened by users (both new and seasoned). This way, we will be able to keep the development threads a little cleaner and smaller... hence making the site's search function work a little better in the process.
@Seniors,
Kinda like the Q&A team, I will need your help in trying to keep the influx of questions to a certain level by answering them as we see them. None of us are logged in 24/7 (or at least some of us aren't ), but if you guys see a question, please try to answer it. I know that xplode, Chef_Tony, markanthonypr, red_hanks, sun_dream, imatrix, +Que_PPC, motisu, and others normally try to keep this under control, but if we centralize it and contain it, we will have a cleaner forum.
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Siemens SX66 BlueAngel Q&A, Help
You know very well you can count on us. Great idea mate. Also congrats on your 1,000's post. I've added a few "tags" to the thread. I hope some others do the same to. Tags help users to find what they are looking for when they use search.
hi
hi specialists
my friend has Blue Angel,he has strange problems.
in (sounds & notification),it didnot saved after changing any parameter,we tried by reflash the rom again,but nothing changed,also we reinstalled radio 1.15 but no change,also the ring tone of the msg is discontinue or irregular when played,and some times didnot wake up (of the device) when recieve a msg.
this is strange issued problems but in mine (BA) every thing is ok,this problems only in my friend (BA),I mate PDA2K.
any ideas?any suggestions?
thnx
notice:when we down grade to wm 6.1 every thing is ok
homam_france said:
hi specialists
my friend has Blue Angel,he has strange problems.
in (sounds & notification),it didnot saved after changing any parameter,we tried by reflash the rom again,but nothing changed,also we reinstalled radio 1.15 but no change,also the ring tone of the msg is discontinue or irregular when played,and some times didnot wake up (of the device) when recieve a msg.
this is strange issued problems but in mine (BA) every thing is ok,this problems only in my friend (BA),I mate PDA2K.
any ideas?any suggestions?
thnx
notice:when we down grade to wm 6.1 every thing is ok
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Hey homam,
Thanks for kicking things off
First of all, which OS were you having problems with? This is important because it could have been a bug in a rom that could have been fixed in a later version.
@mark,
I know I can count on you, buddy I need help from the mods as well though. I cannot redirect posts to here and/or close threads
My BA, keeps turning on from standby, by a light shock! I maen, if you press the Power button, and then you knock gently on it's back, it turns back on!!
I've set to "Lock all buttons except the power button", However, I still have this issue.
Well, I must confess that once it dropped off of my hand, and it's the result of that...
Any ideas?
by "it turns back on" i assume you mean it wakes up from stand by, it doesn't really start like after a soft reset, right?
since the BA's only battery activated wake-up is in the cradle and we are not talking about soft reset, my first guess is, the battery is not to blame.
have you checked whether you can use your camera at all time? i mean, the camera_detect does not usually run at all times but if the camera connector is a little lose, from now and then it could "discover" the new camera hardware and wake up, that is unlikely for normal devices, but if yours had a crash before...
you could refer to this site for checking possible hardware reasons:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
the hardware things aside, there are also many possible software reasons for the device to wake up on:
- update of titanium weather
- automatic email checking
- cell broadcast
- if bluetooth is on
- if beam is on
- automatic update of any software...
plus of course the usual:
- incoming call
- incoming text message
- incoming mms
- upcoming calendar event...
so please check the possible software wake ups first to make sure this is really a hardware issue, because that would be a shame, that could be tricky to solve.
or let me put it this way, if it is really the moving that wakes it up, you have the first BA with accelerometer
EDIT: last but not least, it could only be a bug, maybe a hard reset or change of the rom could also be a way to go, since spontaneous waking up is a known bug for BAs
Chef_Tony
If there was only a way to hack the hardware and make this work at least on Edge. I can live with everything else, but its a shame paying for a full unlimited Internet service and only getting G connection Sighhhhhhh
Ok, I had to let that frustration out !!!!!!
Chef_Tony said:
by "it turns back on" i assume you mean it wakes up from stand by, it doesn't really start like after a soft reset, right?
since the BA's only battery activated wake-up is in the cradle and we are not talking about soft reset, my first guess is, the battery is not to blame.
have you checked whether you can use your camera at all time? i mean, the camera_detect does not usually run at all times but if the camera connector is a little lose, from now and then it could "discover" the new camera hardware and wake up, that is unlikely for normal devices, but if yours had a crash before...
you could refer to this site for checking possible hardware reasons:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
the hardware things aside, there are also many possible software reasons for the device to wake up on:
- update of titanium weather
- automatic email checking
- cell broadcast
- if bluetooth is on
- if beam is on
- automatic update of any software...
plus of course the usual:
- incoming call
- incoming text message
- incoming mms
- upcoming calendar event...
so please check the possible software wake ups first to make sure this is really a hardware issue, because that would be a shame, that could be tricky to solve.
or let me put it this way, if it is really the moving that wakes it up, you have the first BA with accelerometer
EDIT: last but not least, it could only be a bug, maybe a hard reset or change of the rom could also be a way to go, since spontaneous waking up is a known bug for BAs
Chef_Tony
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Wow! Tony! I really appreciate your complete answer. I mean it.
Yes, as you correctly assumed, I meant wake-up. It just wakes up and continues the routine WinMo operation; no soft-reset occurs.
It's less than a year that I've replaced the battery with a new one. I remember all the funny things used to happen when the old battery was dying. But non of them were similar to this one.
It can't be the Camera. Well, I'm able to use it all the time, and the "camera_detect" has been always loaded in the processes whenever I've checked it. About the looseness thing, ummm, I'm not sure. I tried to knock on it to see if it's more sensitive than other parts. I think the upper part of the device is more likely to wake it up by an easy hit (like knocking). but it's the whole upper part, not only the camera section nor the camera button.
Unfortunately, the software possibility, is unlikely to be the problem:
I've used many ROMs on my lovely BA which 3-4 times of them taken place since the wake-up problem.
The software and the usual reasons you counted, do wake it up. but shakes, too.
Finally, to be honest, I'm agree with you! This is the first Blue Angel with accelerometer. yeaaah! I did it!
I bet my friends that I can wake my BA up, without touching any buttons or screen! It's fun this way, but I comes to be annoying when I put it in my pocket or just put it on a table! and it wakes up... consider the forced battery consumption, unwanted screen taps if I don't lock the screen. God bless A_C! and... .
I know it's a hardware issue (((((
@raizaM: My Thought.... Have you ever taken it apart? One of my BA's had 3 loose bolts inside. All 3 were from what I think is the Radio/Antenna part at top. However, in my case, I had a rattle going inside. Thats why I put it apart. You might have something loose inside, causing a connection to arc when you knock on your phone. If you do deside to open it, there is a tutorial on the wiki on how to.
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@raizaM: My Thought.... Have you ever taken it apart? One of my BA's had 3 loose bolts inside. All 3 were from what I think is the Radio/Antenna part at top. However, in my case, I had a rattle going inside. Thats why I put it apart. You might have something loose inside, causing a connection to arc when you knock on your phone. If you do deside to open it, there is a tutorial on the wiki on how to.
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Hey mark!
I had that same issue a while back, but with only one screw (also from the same area as yours).
@raizaM
Just to knock off Chef_Tony's theory out of the table completely, try to erase camera_detect.lnk from \Windows\startup and SR your device. If Chef was right, then your issue might be gone. However, I would follow markanthony's advice and take it apart in case Chef's idea doesn't work.
Oh man, your not my hero anymore LoL.. and here I thought I would be the only one with a mechanic inside my phone.
markanthonypr said:
Oh man, your not my hero anymore LoL.. and here I thought I would be the only one with a mechanic inside my phone.
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Well, it kept me entertained when my BA would run out of juice
Thanks for your kind advices.
Actually, I tried to remove "camrea_detect" from the startup once, but any way, I gave it a shot again... no success...
Frankly, I'm a lil bit afraid to take my lovely BA apart... :-s... What if... :-(
But, I guess sooner or later I need to do so. so what the heck... lets do it.
Maybe I'll do it tonight. Guys please help me through it. I don't wanna loose my Angel!
Ton'y link provided in the previous posts, would be my start:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
any more advices?
raizaM: You're not going to go that far deep. Only remove the cover. If you look at picture #4 on that link, the top green area has about 6 bolts all around it. Those were the ones that were loose on mine. 2 of them were rattling inside the phone. I still can't believe they didn't cause a short circuit. You don't need to go down into the camshell area. Do you use the sliding keyboard? If so, you could have a bad flex cable. But, don't worry about tha for now. Just remove back cover and carefull inspect for loose bolts. Don't over tighten them.
all the master please help, my BA strange,,,,, the screen suddenly go dead after actived wifi or playing game, its suddenly dead, and i must push power button to turn it on again through proses like softreset, that in battery power. but if i conect in charger power mode, i turn wifi,playing game, its normal, the BA still on and working normal,
please2,,,,,if someone knows the problem please help, im desper now....
loryshoe said:
all the master please help, my BA strange,,,,, the screen suddenly go dead after actived wifi or playing game, its suddenly dead, and i must push power button to turn it on again through proses like softreset, that in battery power. but if i conect in charger power mode, i turn wifi,playing game, its normal, the BA still on and working normal,
please2,,,,,if someone knows the problem please help, im desper now....
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It seems that you have the backlight settings set to dim/turn off too fast. Go to \Settings\System\Backlight and modify the settings in there (particularly the ones labeled "On Battery Power"). Then, soft reset the device (stylus on the bottom).
Hope this helps.
markanthonypr said:
raizaM: You're not going to go that far deep. Only remove the cover. If you look at picture #4 on that link, the top green area has about 6 bolts all around it. Those were the ones that were loose on mine. 2 of them were rattling inside the phone. I still can't believe they didn't cause a short circuit. You don't need to go down into the camshell area. Do you use the sliding keyboard? If so, you could have a bad flex cable. But, don't worry about tha for now. Just remove back cover and carefull inspect for loose bolts. Don't over tighten them.
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egzthunder1 said:
It seems that you have the backlight settings set to dim/turn off too fast. Go to \Settings\System\Backlight and modify the settings in there (particularly the ones labeled "On Battery Power"). Then, soft reset the device (stylus on the bottom).
Hope this helps.
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not the setting, it got black scren, its dead screen after running wifi or application, suddenly goes dead, black screen,.
Have you tried with another battery? It sounds to me like your battery is about to die. It won't hold the heavy battery consumption of Wi-Fi and heavy CPU usage while on Games. Try with another battery. Also make sure you followed Egzthunders suggestion to change your Power Settings. If you still need help, post back and include more info about your device, such as, what version of Windows are you running and how old/new is your battery.
I'm aware of apps like NoLock which disable the Vibrants lock screens. I was thinking about it and is there really any reason to have a lock screen? Seems like it's just an added step and a potential waste of battery. Thoughts?
To make sure you don't mess **** up if you accidentally hit your power button in your pocket
Right, I was rocking them way back in the day when you could pocket dial your whole phonebook with hardware # buttons, but with the Vibrant I've never noticed messing with the hardware buttons just from it being in my pocket.
Well, actually there are a lot of benefits to having the lock screen.
- You could turn up your ringer in a situation where you need to have it on silent.
- Quickly control music without draining battery by going to the actual music app.
- Seeing what type of notifications you get without pulling out the entire UI.
There are added benefits to disabling the lock screen, but you will probably encounter enough problems to make it not worth it.
true, I hadn't considered the music aspect
How about the fact that it's a secuirty mechanism?
No need for it. It was one of the first things I disabled.
Here's why:
-Accidentally messing it in your pocket somehow? Even if you manage to hit the power button and make it come on, it won't do anything as the screen is activated through electricity of your fingers. That's how it works. Nothing in your pocket can make it do ANYTHING, even if its on. If you REACH in your pocket and its on, then yes, you can hit something.
-Music app. SUPER easy to switch music when you have no lock screen. Simply Hit power button and swipe away anywhere on teh screen to change a song. VERY VERY useful while driving and u can't afford to look at the screen.
-Easier to respond to texts. You don't need to unlock it to do stuff now. MUCH simplifies everything but notifications are especially convinient to deal with.
-ACTUALLY saves battery. Try it. No lock screen will net you NO loss in battery life and is likely to increase it as you won't go through a locking screen every time. You quickly develop a habit of turning it off by the power key when ur done with something and turning it back on when you need it. It's instant, quick, and saves on juice.
I don't know of a SINGLE reason to keep a lock screen except for aesthetics or if you want to prevent people using your phone (in which case its a passworded lockscreen). Those are the only 2 reasons really. . .
how about to check out the time, see missed calls or texts easily because sometime the notification bar is full of notifications, and it is a great way to check the time without people seeing what you have been using in your phone and also it turns off fast so you dont have to press the power button twice.
I wouldn't take it off only because I see more advantages than disadvantages.
Just my two cents.
Better not lose your phones. No lock makes it that much easier to grab your data, regardless if you report it and the phone becomes a brick. Think of all that stuff the person who found it would be able to do. Get a list of your contacts, find the last few places you visited, make calls, etc... An exposed phone would be an identity theives dream.
And just think... you could slow them down with a simple pattern lock. Ignorant not to use that layer.
The security feature is pretty meaningless to me. I'm not ultra scared of someone finding my phone and having my friends and my weed dealers phone numbers.
Lol @ TC
This thread is so pointless
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SeanFloyd said:
The security feature is pretty meaningless to me. I'm not ultra scared of someone finding my phone and having my friends and my weed dealers phone numbers.
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Okay. Would you mind posting a copy of your contacts in this thread? Most likely not, unless of course you have zero respect for your contacts information, in which case you should let your friends know how wreckless you are being with their data.
The point is, you may not lose this phone or your next or the one after that. It is a fact that unless you take ownership of your information, you put yourself at risk of making details you consider private, public.
One word:
Children.
Without a lock screen, my kids would have done things to my phone that I can not even imagine. lol
thenotoriouspie said:
Lol @ TC
This thread is so pointless
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Not entirely pointless. It provided a chance for you to be a prick
SeanFloyd said:
Not entirely pointless. It provided a chance for you to be a prick
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And for you a chance to come off as a complete moron. I guess not all is lost, eh?
Well, different strokes for different folks. I'm rarely ever more than 5 feet away from phone, so I don't worry too much about the security aspect. I do turn it on if I'm going out to a bar or club or something, but otherwise the lock screen just slows me down.
ipugh said:
One word:
Children.
Without a lock screen, my kids would have done things to my phone that I can not even imagine. lol
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..... or just don't let your kids use your phone as a toy. The lock screen doesn't keep it from going in the toilet if the kid is very young.
The lock screen strikes me as feature-creep.
NoLock was the first non-rooting-related thing I installed.
Was updating using Odin when, as my luck always proves out, a circuit breaker tripped and cut power to my PC. The phone seemed to be frozen on the "Download Mode" screen (30+ minutes of zero activity) so I pulled the battery. Upon reinserting the battery I discover that the phone is 100% unresponsive. I've tried every trick google could produce for me with the exception of the "homemade jig" method as it seemed fairly clear that the phone needed some semblance of life for that to be effective.
So, my question is... WTF??? I've soft modded wiis, hard modded xboxes, hacked PSPs flashed hundreds of phones and generally revel in futzing around in this manner of endeavor and have NEVER bricked a device (even after some incredibly stupid mistakes). This just doesn't make sense and I haven't seen sysmptoms such as mine presented in any of my web searches. Any ideas???
I'm not saying your not a modder, but you should know to have a UPS hooked up to your dev box, for me its a laptop, so...
Anyway, try removing the battery for 1m, press power button with batt removed, now start up Odin, plug the phone in (batt removed still) and see if the phone connects. I'm sure someone will pop in here and provide links to several threads that describe different methods to help you fix this, I would but I'm sorta busy...
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Keep the battery out for like a half hour and then try again. That has worked for some people.
Or try the mysterious button that may or may not exist. I know I'd be pushing the heck out of it just in case.
Thank you so much for your quick input... I tried precicely that 3-4 times (google search turned it up) and it was a futile endeavor.
And yes, I am fully aware of all the proper precautions to take, unfortunately I am also fully stupid with frightening regularity (well, maybe just lazy and reckless), I seem to have become a tad cocky as I have never really had to face disaster before today.
It won't happen again!
plug phone into computer without battery. Then hold power and 1 to go into download mode (still no battery)
That there is what I've seen as most effective thing to work on bricked phone's.
cool... I just popped out the battery and will let you know the result in about 40 minutes...
this happened to me recently, i found a post with the solution being to pull the battery out of the phone hold down 1 and the power button at the same time before popping the battery back in and it will send you to the proper screen to odin back to what you need, worked perfect for me
oh crap I editted my previous post. i forgot to mention go into download mode...
It's --
Remove battery and plug into computer. then go into download mode WITHOUT Battery still.
If your not getting any sign of life from ur phone, try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042746
It worked for me.
Krojian said:
If your not getting any sign of life from ur phone, try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042746
It worked for me.
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there is no hole in the back case of my device. I've had my device powered on and bent the **** out of a paper clip trying to push the 'hidden magic button' to no avail.
YMMV (false hope ??)
Cool, didn't know that little button existed!
I bricked mine the same way a few weeks ago and tried every trick in the book over the course of 2 days. It was truly bricked. I don't have insurance; however, my phone was under warranty. Since I couldn't get the phone to boot or anything I figured there was no real way of telling what went wrong. I sent it in for warranty repair and 10 days later, the phone returned in working order. Work order says they replaced the main board. I marked the phone before returning it so I know its the same phone and it works fine now.
And before anyone says anything, I know, I'm an evil bastard. But I figure it's payback for a samsung flatscreen that died 6 months out of warranty.
I've done this, leaving my battery out for 20 mins or so, and leaving it out while going into download mode worked for me. I don't know why but sometimes I can't even get into download mode with my battery in.
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Cool, didn't know that little button existed!
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it doesn't..
to prove this (or dis-prove it).. go into clockwork and make a nandroid backup (you know, just in case)...then boot normally and while you're looking at your home screen, jam a paper clip in there as hard as you can. Your device will do nothing.
daddymikey1975 said:
it doesn't..
to prove this (or dis-prove it).. go into clockwork and make a nandroid backup (you know, just in case)...then boot normally and while you're looking at your home screen, jam a paper clip in there as hard as you can. Your device will do nothing.
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I hope you guys are messing with him...
hardrock121 said:
I hope you guys are messing with him...
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No, it's just not proven. Some people swear by it, some say it's a myth and some say it depends on when your phone was made.
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I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
This is how I did it. First you need the following:
- A handset whose battery cannot be removed (at least very easily like the Moto G/Nexus 5/Moto X)
- Root
- Xposed Framework
- Xposed Framework Gravitybox module
- Anti-theft app (the one that I use is cerberus https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en)
- Bringrr or any other bluetooth perimeter based tracker (optional but recommended)
It's a fairly straight forward procedure. I'll lay it out in steps.
Step 1:
- Buy a phone whose battery cannot be removed
Step 2:
- Root the phone
Step 3:
- Set a pattern or number lock on your phone.
Step 4:
- Install XposedFramework
Step 5:
- Download and install Gravitybox module from within the Xposedframework
Step 6:
Go into the Gravityox module from the app drawer, then go into "Power Tweaks" and then check the "Disable power menu on lockscreen" option. This ensures that when your phone is locked (assumption is that you keep your phone locked or secured), nobody can turn it off or lower the volume. This is crucial when it comes to theft. Usually when a thief steals a phone, the first thing he does is he turns it off or removes the battery or reduces the volume to zero, but if he can't do any of these then the thief has a tracker in his hands and he's in deep ****za.
Step 7:
- Install an anti-theft app. I recommend cerberus. It's very versatile and wholesome. I really like the fact that you can actually make it into a system app which means that even if the thief were to somehow turn off the phone and then turn it on again and crack your pass code or pattern lock and factory reset the phone from the settings, the cerberus app will still be there doing it's job of tracking your phone.
There's only one way of getting around this as far as I can tell but I don't think I'm going to tell you how. That would defeat the purpose of this little guide
Step 8:
- Get a bluetooth location trackr. I like bringrr. It seems to get better reviews than the others one floating out there. It's a bluetooth device that plugs into your car's cig lighter socket and connects to your phone's bluetooth. If you leave your phone in a cafe and come back to the car, the bringrr will warn you or alert you that your phone isn't with you. It also has small little tags which you can put in your wallet and then your wallet and your phone and your car, all can communicate with each other. So, it's a nice preventive measure.
Even if you disable the power menu you can just hold down the power button until it turns off.
True....but that's not true if you havent confirmed it yet.
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also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
Alpha_wolf said:
also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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i agree with you i was just throwing those out there cause there are people like us that use their power for evil lol
mufakir said:
I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
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Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
mawells787 said:
Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
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Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
mufakir said:
Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
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1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
carry AK47 in front seat of car, problem solved!
Turn in android device manager with location reporting. It will track your phone down for you.
fury683 said:
I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
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yea, but it's such painstaking work man. gonna do that today.
mawells787 said:
1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
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Well, all I know about crime in the States is what I see in tv shows, but yea, it's everywhere. crime and criminals that is.
I prefer keeping my phone by my side at all times....to battery sucking theft solutions.
But to each their own!!
Good info here for sure! ?
In my opinion it's better to leave the phone without a pin because, if i were an average theft who doesn't know that much about phones, I'd just remove the accounts, the Sim card and apps. Maybe I would do a factory reset and with that I'd be happy so cerberus would survive.
Also I'd recommend you to hide cerberus from the drawer and make it only available from the dialer.
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Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
treyf711 said:
Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
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I thought that just rebooted, similar to holding POWER and VOL DOWN for a while to simulate a battery pull on Moto devices.
Hi everyone.
I've had my 6P for two years, and a couple of weeks ago it fell out of my pocket when I was climbing into the roof to look far a water leak. 2.5 metres straight down with a quick bounce off the ladder on the way. Much to my extreme surprise the screen didn't crack, but it is really buggered - it only comes on for maybe 1/4 of a second every ten seconds or so.
And hence the problem; I need to access the internal memory to get some work records but I can't see the screen long enough to be able to select anything. I did, however, manage to get the wifi working and so retrieve all the photos, vids, etc. Getting to the system screens that turn on USB access to the phone is going to be extremely difficult to do.
So, does anyone know how I'll be able to access the internal memory, by any means? I can kind-of see the menu screens by videoing the phone and playing it back slowly. Difficult, but it might be the only way.
BillzillaAus said:
Hi everyone.
I've had my 6P for two years, and a couple of weeks ago it fell out of my pocket when I was climbing into the roof to look far a water leak. 2.5 metres straight down with a quick bounce off the ladder on the way. Much to my extreme surprise the screen didn't crack, but it is really buggered - it only comes on for maybe 1/4 of a second every ten seconds or so.
And hence the problem; I need to access the internal memory to get some work records but I can't see the screen long enough to be able to select anything. I did, however, manage to get the wifi working and so retrieve all the photos, vids, etc. Getting to the system screens that turn on USB access to the phone is going to be extremely difficult to do.
So, does anyone know how I'll be able to access the internal memory, by any means? I can kind-of see the menu screens by videoing the phone and playing it back slowly. Difficult, but it might be the only way.
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cast you screen to a chrome cast or something to see from what your saying seems like touchscreen still works so once you do that turn on show touches and that way you see where your finger is
billycar11 said:
cast you screen to a chrome cast or something to see from what your saying seems like touchscreen still works so once you do that turn on show touches and that way you see where your finger is
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That has been suggested before, but it doesn't have the Chromecast app installed. It would need a few screen presses to work, thus still making it a very tricky thing to do. Ta anyway.
BillzillaAus said:
That has been suggested before, but it doesn't have the Chromecast app installed. It would need a few screen presses to work, thus still making it a very tricky thing to do. Ta anyway.
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well i just link a thread where i help a guy navigate his phone with a broken screen you can get some ideas from there and what worked for him also you can you a keyboard to open apps easily you cant see just by typing
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/125-reward-help-to-usb-debugging-mode-t3694253
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BillzillaAus said:
That has been suggested before, but it doesn't have the Chromecast app installed. It would need a few screen presses to work, thus still making it a very tricky thing to do. Ta anyway.
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also you dont need the google home app to cast your screen its built in to the os since 5.0 its in the quick tiles with flash light i uninstalled the app to make sure it stays it stayed
billycar11 said:
well i just link a thread where i help a guy navigate his phone with a broken screen you can get some ideas from there and what worked for him also you can you a keyboard to open apps easily you cant see just by typing
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/125-reward-help-to-usb-debugging-mode-t3694253
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also you dont need the google home app to cast your screen its built in to the os since 5.0 its in the quick tiles with flash light i uninstalled the app to make sure it stays it stayed
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Thanks for that - I'll get a USB cable and try it tonight. And maybe the Chromecast option as well. I'll let you know ....
Okay, all done now - I got it working with casting to my Chromecast unit on the telly. I had to get used to guessing exactly where to put my finger on the blank screen but it all worked and so I've got all the data I need off the phone. I'm quite sad that this is the end of the line for my 6P, it was a fantastic phone. I have to say that I'm still tempted to pay the money to get a new screen fitted to it though.
BillzillaAus said:
Okay, all done now - I got it working with casting to my Chromecast unit on the telly. I had to get used to guessing exactly where to put my finger on the blank screen but it all worked and so I've got all the data I need off the phone. I'm quite sad that this is the end of the line for my 6P, it was a fantastic phone. I have to say that I'm still tempted to pay the money to get a new screen fitted to it though.
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nice glad it worked out for you