i tried searching the google for solutions to these, but couldn't seem to find any solutions in the "other" forums that came up in the results. i was hoping someone here might have an answers.
coming from WinMo, the biggest annoyances on the hero for me are:1) when i'm playing music off the phone and i receive any sort of notification, the music pauses for like 2 seconds plays the notification sound pauses then resumes the music instead of the just playing the notification sound over the music the pause happens even if i have the phone set to vibrate mode...just no notification sound..this is extremely annoying. 2) also i noticed the power button and end call button are the same button which is ok, but when i'm leaving voicemails i have a tendancy to just hit hang up when im done however i noticed that if the screen goes off during my call and i press end call it just turns the screen back on instead of ending my call...extremely dangerous when leaving messages..
does anyone have any solutions or workarounds for these?
thanks!
The AOSP 1.6 roms solve the issue with the end button, as it is the ONLY way to hang up a call in vanilla Home Android. Notification w/ Music? Didn't test that yet, but the 1.6 roms are definitely worth a try. I'll get back to you on the music notification thing. Hope this helped.
EDIT: Apparently it solves both issues. Hope I helped you with this. If you like Sense UI, the AOSP roms aren't for you, they do away with Sense.
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The AOSP 1.6 roms solve the issue with the end button, as it is the ONLY way to hang up a call in vanilla Home Android.
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Can you clarify this a bit? What do you mean by it is the only way to hang up a call? Are you saying in AOSP the screen just stays on for the entire duration of the call?
if you press the "menu" button after the screen shuts off during a call, it'll turn back on, at which point you can either press the red button, or the "end call" button on the screen.
Or, if you pull the phone away from your ear and see that the screen is off, and want to end the call, hit the red button twice in quick succession, and it'll turn on then hang up within a second or two
The idiot who decided to make the power button and the hang up button one button should be shot, IMHO! Yes there are workarounds and ways to handle it but they require too much thought and it's just way too easy to hang up on somebody.
Also, the interrupt the music (or podcast) to play the alarm is dumb too. Additionally it's not like they pause the music rather the music runs onward and, if you happen to be listening to a podcasts where the words are important you can miss key concepts and have to rewind.
I've flashed the 2.1 ROM with HTC Sense. I would not put it beyond the HTC guys to have messed it up and made it so that the alarm still interrupts the music. The power button thing is definitely not solved in this ROM.
But by far my biggest complaint is improper handling of AVRCP. 2.1 is better but it's still not even good. If I start Google Listen and am listening to a podcast then I can hit pause on my bluetooth headset and it works. If, however, I navigate away from Google Listen then the pause button doesn't work at all. Often it'll start the HTC Music app and then I'll have both the podcast AND music playing. Brilliant!
just a thought but maybe you should have looked into the phone before purchasing. and being rude and saying that the 2.1 isnt any good is really insulting to all the devs that have worked really hard on that rom considering that it was built well before the kernel source came out. and im sorry but if you cant remember to hit menu and then end instead of just end then maybe you should just get a flip phone. as far as the notification over the music goes, gee lets think about this, your listening to music and you get a text hmmmmmmm maybe you want to be NOTIFIED that you got a text.
my advice. Either go back to a winmo phone or get a flip.
i don't think he meant to insult the developers..the hero is definitely a great phone and androids is awesome, but there are bugs and what better way to solve them them to point them out and discuss them.
its not so much that you cant remember to hit end twice or press menu and then hit end, but its the fact that you have to take the extra step. and text messaging thing, yes it lets me know that i have a text, but i would have known that if it played the sound concurrently or if it just flashed the lights, but ok that's not major issue i understand some people like to hear the sound separately. however, if i have the phone on vibrate and am playing music, it still pauses the music when a notification comes even tho it doesn't play the notification sounds..that's just plain ridiculous.
i mean if i'm paying for a high end phone i kind of expect to manufacturer to have done research and testing in UI and human interaction to address these kind of issues.
btw i found this app in market call "proximity sensor" that kind of fixes the end call problem. when you are on a call it uses the light sensor to detect if you have the phone up to your head and it dims the screen and turns it back on when it sees light. the only hickups are if you are in a dark area you have to hit back to get the screen back on as there wont be any light for it detect and also it doesn't turn off the screen just dims it..so might kill your battery a bit quicker, but all in all i tihnk it's pretty nice.
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The idiot who decided to make the power button and the hang up button one button should be shot, IMHO! Yes there are workarounds and ways to handle it but they require too much thought and it's just way too easy to hang up on somebody.
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There's a good number of phones like that. Treo 700p, 755p, 800w, Samsung Rant, Sanyo SCP-3100 just to name a few. Actually, the Blackberry that I have for work is the only phone that I have used recently that has a separate power button.
I think I had a Nokia that had a separate power button.
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i don't think he meant to insult the developers..the hero is definitely a great phone and androids is awesome, but there are bugs and what better way to solve them them to point them out and discuss them.
its not so much that you cant remember to hit end twice or press menu and then hit end, but its the fact that you have to take the extra step. and text messaging thing, yes it lets me know that i have a text, but i would have known that if it played the sound concurrently or if it just flashed the lights, but ok that's not major issue i understand some people like to hear the sound separately. however, if i have the phone on vibrate and am playing music, it still pauses the music when a notification comes even tho it doesn't play the notification sounds..that's just plain ridiculous.
i mean if i'm paying for a high end phone i kind of expect to manufacturer to have done research and testing in UI and human interaction to address these kind of issues.
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Actually, I like having to hit End twice. When I had my Treo phones (700p, 755p and 800w), I would always hit the red end button to turn on the screen. The problem is, if the screen goes off while you are on a call, I accidentally hang up on the person because I was trying to turn my screen back on.
I guess it is more of a preference.
So many things to say... First off wtphoto, I was not really given an opportunity to check out the phone at the time. Here's the deal: My last phone just broke - the screen would not turn on. Now for a long time I've been wanted to switch to Android but honestly I was waiting for the HD2 and Android to be put on it. I was unemployed at the time but just got a job up in Seattle. I was flying out to look for a place to live and I needed to keep in touch with head hunters, the contracting agency, etc. when, as I said, my phone died. So I bought the HTC Hero on a whim rather then going with another WinMo phone. OK. So stop assuming things and ask questions first.
Being rude?!? Hardly. You ain't seen rude yet. I was merely voicing my opinion. As for the "devs" as you say, we're not talking about HTC developers here - we're talking about ROM cookers and yes they work hard. But I don't think they are re-writing drivers or anything like that.
As for hitting menu first or whatever, listen, it's a legitimate complaint. It's foolish to make the button that turns the screen blank and locks it the same button that will hang up on the current call. Pick any other button!
As for the proximity sensor thing - actually the 2.1 ROM has that. However I rarely, if ever, put the phone up to my ear. I use a bluetooth headset - actually a stereo headset. Besides, the proximity sensor app simply and always blanked the screen and locked it. Let me repeat. I use my bluetooth headset. So I take out my phone and I dial the number. I don't even move the phone anywhere close to my face. The proximity sensor blanks and locks the phone. And often I'm about to talk to a menuing system where I'll have to hit 1 for English etc. To me the proximity sensor serves no purpose because often the first thing I need to do it disable it.
Perhaps unlike you wtphoto, I have ears which are capable of hearing both music (or spoken text) AND an alert at the same time! Point is this should be an option - you choose your way and I'll choose mine - OK?
But ajaholic is right - I was not dissing developers I was stating the problems I was having with the phone - much like the OP. You don't like my "tone". Tough ****! Get used to it.
Indeed if I'm gonna pay hundreds of dollars for a phone that I'll have to live with for years you bet your sweet ass I'm gonna be picky. Do your homework and remember Rule #1 - THE CUSTOMER I ALWAYS RIGHT. Further - Rule #2 - See Rule #1.
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and remember Rule #1 - THE CUSTOMER I ALWAYS RIGHT. Further - Rule #2 - See Rule #1.
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not where i work.
Who is the customer of xda-dev? Dude needs to get a life.
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not where i work.
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HAHA Me Either, I get off on proving them wrong.
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So many things to say... First off wtphoto, I was not really given an opportunity to check out the phone at the time. Here's the deal: My last phone just broke - the screen would not turn on. Now for a long time I've been wanted to switch to Android but honestly I was waiting for the HD2 and Android to be put on it. I was unemployed at the time but just got a job up in Seattle. I was flying out to look for a place to live and I needed to keep in touch with head hunters, the contracting agency, etc. when, as I said, my phone died. So I bought the HTC Hero on a whim rather then going with another WinMo phone. OK. So stop assuming things and ask questions first.
Being rude?!? Hardly. You ain't seen rude yet. I was merely voicing my opinion. As for the "devs" as you say, we're not talking about HTC developers here - we're talking about ROM cookers and yes they work hard. But I don't think they are re-writing drivers or anything like that.
As for hitting menu first or whatever, listen, it's a legitimate complaint. It's foolish to make the button that turns the screen blank and locks it the same button that will hang up on the current call. Pick any other button!
As for the proximity sensor thing - actually the 2.1 ROM has that. However I rarely, if ever, put the phone up to my ear. I use a bluetooth headset - actually a stereo headset. Besides, the proximity sensor app simply and always blanked the screen and locked it. Let me repeat. I use my bluetooth headset. So I take out my phone and I dial the number. I don't even move the phone anywhere close to my face. The proximity sensor blanks and locks the phone. And often I'm about to talk to a menuing system where I'll have to hit 1 for English etc. To me the proximity sensor serves no purpose because often the first thing I need to do it disable it.
Perhaps unlike you wtphoto, I have ears which are capable of hearing both music (or spoken text) AND an alert at the same time! Point is this should be an option - you choose your way and I'll choose mine - OK?
But ajaholic is right - I was not dissing developers I was stating the problems I was having with the phone - much like the OP. You don't like my "tone". Tough ****! Get used to it.
Indeed if I'm gonna pay hundreds of dollars for a phone that I'll have to live with for years you bet your sweet ass I'm gonna be picky. Do your homework and remember Rule #1 - THE CUSTOMER I ALWAYS RIGHT. Further - Rule #2 - See Rule #1.
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in rebut,
if you are unemployed why did you buy a $580 phone "on a whim" to begin with, I know for myself if I am spending more than $100 on something I am going to know as much as I can about the product BEFORE I purchase. second if you want to *****, ***** to HTC they are the ones that designed the phone, the devs here can only do so much. And yes if you actually read through the 2.1 thread toast and lox did have to re-write A LOT of code to get it working with the hacked up kernel that is on the CDMA hero.
I will agree that it would be NICE to be able to set the lock button like you can on the blackberry's, but it really isnt that big of a deal it took all of about 5 phone calls to get used to hitting menu then end. instead of just complaining why not try to get used to the way the phone works.
addressing the notification issue again, HTC built a phone that a MAJORITY of people liked. They can not design a phone just for you. deal with it or sell the phone and buy a winmo.
as far as your tone. untill you start compiling the kernel and cooking up ROMs, why not just be thankful that there are people out there willing to put in as much time and work as flipz, toast, lox, chuck, TTG, MoDaCo, GBhil and the rest and then release their work at no charge AND support the work that they do so that we as a community can enjoy our phones just a little more. Not to mention people like godzon, Noj, and Emerica who are putting out themes and add on's.
and the truth of the matter is that the customer is normally WRONG. most of the customers that I deal with are like you, they just want to find something to ***** about and try and get something that they feel they deserve but in actuality they dont.
as far as being picky, once again I point to the fact that you say you bought a $580 phone "on a whim" you cant be too picky when you do something like that.
Just an FYI on the Notifications and the sounds pausing - I think it is because our audio buffer is too small. Should be able to do something with it now that we have a kernel. I haven't touched the source much since it came out, but I'll see if I can at least track it down.
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if you are unemployed why did you buy a $580 phone "on a whim" to begin with,
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I'm very much gainfully employed. I was between contracts and actually I already had a contract and was flying to Seattle to look for an apt to move to. It was no so much "on a whim" rather I didn't want to go back to a WinMo phone, which would have locked me into another contract and I needed a working phone for the journey to conduct business - apparently something you know little about...
I know for myself if I am spending more than $100 on something I am going to know as much as I can about the product BEFORE I purchase.
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That's because $100 represents a lot more of your disposable income than mine.
second if you want to *****, ***** to HTC they are the ones that designed the phone, the devs here can only do so much.
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Dude, I'm complaining about *software* problems. If the devs here are devs then what do they develop but software?
And yes if you actually read through the 2.1 thread toast and lox did have to re-write A LOT of code to get it working with the hacked up kernel that is on the CDMA hero.
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Wonderful.
I will agree that it would be NICE to be able to set the lock button like you can on the blackberry's, but it really isnt that big of a deal it took all of about 5 phone calls to get used to hitting menu then end. instead of just complaining why not try to get used to the way the phone works.
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Conform or else eh? Whatever you do do not mention that you don't like the way it works because lord knows somebody might fix it! Let me ask you this, why does it bother you so that somebody may wish to have it work in an more intelligent fashion instead of having to get used to an asinine way of doing things? And yes it is a big deal when you hang up on important people - perhaps you've never met any...
addressing the notification issue again, HTC built a phone that a MAJORITY of people liked. They can not design a phone just for you. deal with it or sell the phone and buy a winmo.
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Wonderful attitude there bud "Well everybody else likes it (because anybody who complains we call an idiot) so why don't you just shut up and get used to it". Regardless if HTC built the phone or not, surely the software could be taught to be flexible and - I'd say - reasonably intelligent (unlike some posters here).
as far as your tone. untill you start compiling the kernel and cooking up ROMs, why not just be thankful that there are people out there willing to put in as much time and work as flipz, toast, lox, chuck, TTG, MoDaCo, GBhil and the rest and then release their work at no charge AND support the work that they do so that we as a community can enjoy our phones just a little more. Not to mention people like godzon, Noj, and Emerica who are putting out themes and add on's.
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Did I ever say I wasn't thankful? If there's any doubt - thanks. However surely you're not saying that everything is 100% perfect and you allow people to have an opinion that differs from yours... Then again, perhaps not.
and the truth of the matter is that the customer is normally WRONG.
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And this son is why you'll never be that successful and $100 will always represent a lot of money to you - *YOUR* attitude.
most of the customers that I deal with are like you, they just want to find something to ***** about and try and get something that they feel they deserve but in actuality they dont.
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Ditto here too. Let's take the interruption when an alarm goes off. Surely some people like and perhaps favor that. But as assuredly others might prefer it not to. Who is right? Answer is both are right because they have different desires and neither is more right than the other. But you brand this as "a customer who just likes to ***** and get something they don't deserve".
as far as being picky, once again I point to the fact that you say you bought a $580 phone "on a whim" you cant be too picky when you do something like that.
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Well it was not $580 - it was used thus around $250 and I also got out of my contract. As I said I had the option of getting another WinMo phone and a 2 year contract or HTC Hero used with no contract. I took the later as I wanted Android and I figured I could update to other hardware (Nexus, HTC HD2 or whatever) and perhaps the provider down the road.
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Ok excuse e but i dont know the first thing about this stuff but you guys do some crazy things with these phones I would think you could take the device lock features off of say a treo 700w where the phone locks on suspend and locks the screen during a call and put it on a mogul/titan/ppc6800/any other phone. And YES i know there are to "devicelock" apps and slide2unock but niether work as well as the one built into the treo i had. i like the titan much better but cant san getting off the phone and having the digital clock changed to anolog and all kinds of crap open. I would try to conquer this myself but i havent the faintest clue as where to even start. thanks even just an explanation as to why this wouldnt work would be great
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Ok excuse e but i dont know the first thing about this stuff but you guys do some crazy things with these phones I would think you could take the device lock features off of say a treo 700w where the phone locks on suspend and locks the screen during a call and put it on a mogul/titan/ppc6800/any other phone. And YES i know there are to "devicelock" apps and slide2unock but niether work as well as the one built into the treo i had. i like the titan much better but cant san getting off the phone and having the digital clock changed to anolog and all kinds of crap open. I would try to conquer this myself but i havent the faintest clue as where to even start. thanks even just an explanation as to why this wouldnt work would be great
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Excuse me.
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Ok excuse e but i dont know the first thing about this stuff but you guys do some crazy things with these phones I would think you could take the device lock features off of say a treo 700w where the phone locks on suspend and locks the screen during a call and put it on a mogul/titan/ppc6800/any other phone. And YES i know there are to "devicelock" apps and slide2unock but niether work as well as the one built into the treo i had. i like the titan much better but cant san getting off the phone and having the digital clock changed to anolog and all kinds of crap open. I would try to conquer this myself but i havent the faintest clue as where to even start. thanks even just an explanation as to why this wouldnt work would be great
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I'm sorry but punctuation and paragraphs works wonders...
Device locking is but something we all have are particular preference to. I use S2U and I still find it to be one of the best things to hit my phone. Some people still like to hit "Device Lock" and unlock it the usual way. Other's might like using the password feature of WM.
So if you ask me, not many people would want to use the screen locking features of the Treo because maybe it doesn't appeal to them as just turning off the phone and having itself lock down anyway since its in hibernate. If it wasn't made, then it hasn't crossed a software developers mind yet to use it applicably.
This is the only explanation I can give you really, since after the clock's explanation in your post didn't make sense to me grammatically...
If you have the problem that I also had, that you open all kind of apps while phoning. the solution is very simple:
after picking up the call push the power button. the call will remain but the screen and all buttons are swiched off
paragraph schmaragraph im not an english major nor anything even close. you obviously understood so i dont see the need. But thank you for the input. and thanks for the turning the screen off idea i think i will try it.
it cost me €650
its buggy, hangs sometimes, I keep having to reset
keyboards sometimes dont popup
wifi is very weak (they used a cheap Texas Instrument chip for wifi that under lab tests runs at about 2/3 the performance of the Marvel chip in the iPhone). Again I remind you that I paid €650 for this thing.
ive owned the phone 6 days and already had to do 4 hard resets
cheap crappy speaker
camera lag 3 seconds to take photo
have to use virtal button to take photo
gps lags
cant assign / customise soft buttons (without installing third party cabs)
to do any customization on the dam thing, you have to install 3rd party cabs, ends up with a phone cluttered with all sorts of stuff most of which was not originally written for the HD. Phone gets unstable and starts hanging even more than usual.
touch screen is often unresponsive, the majority of dialogs put the ok button in the top right hand corner where it is least responsive. I often have to tap the buton 5-6 times to get it to respond
have to install everything on storage card as there is very limited storage built in
TouchFlo 3d has lots of bugs (have a read of the forum)
have to use headphones to get radio to work (be nice not to have to, id like to be able to demo the radio and use it in high strength signal areas w/o having to carry headphones around).
radio is noisy with poor reception
cant record radio
browser stops working at the drop of a hat. i.e. you manage to get a wifi connection, you use the web, leave phone for a minute, come back, hit power button, wifi wakes up, browser more often then not will no longer work (cannot find proxy server, no network, dns not available). I have to resolve with another soft reset
browser is a pain to use, it does not zoom intelligently, the amount of time I spend trying to line up after a zoom, then hitting links by mistake or trying to hit links and wondering wtf they do nothing.
the wifi on my unit is poor. i have written to htc and expansys and as of yet (a day and a half later) i have had no reply from either. sickening and worrying!
im in the middle of another hard reset right now after the phone screwed up yet again
doesnt lock properly (when a call comes in)
you have to install .Net 3.5. For god sakes its late 2008, could they not have shipped the rom with it already on there. not only that but you really need to install it onto device storage rather than card storage for performance so it takes up valuable space (of which there is not much to begin with)
battery lasts a day at best with light use. if you use wifi and browse for an hour on the train you can reduce that to 3 or 4 hours. pretty lousy
lousy (and I mean LOUSY) video playback. You need a degree in computing to go and encode videos in specific ways to get them to play reasonably. Even the demo video that comes with the phone plays poorly.
hard to scroll through lists on screen without invoking the items on the list. i.e. scrolling the programs list I always end up running unwanted programs
when you send a text message, the phone does nothing, no "sending message" status, no confirmation that message sent. You have to fix with a tweak. again to fix, you have to install schaps config tool that clearly is not written for the HD. Its brilliant and I am not having a go at all but its anothe rlarge cab u have to install just to do the most basic things. jesus a "sending text" status is the most basic requiremt surely to god!!!
very hard to figure out how to disable 3g (cud be real expensive unless u have ur wits about u)
gps is very slow initially and weaker than on normal gps devices. I have had it unable to detect gps signals when my mate beside was using another device and getting signal - just like the wifi.
not possible to edit/customize TouchFlo 3D. You can't put an shortcut to a program on its home page for eg. You have to scroll along the awkward scroll bar to get to programs.
TF3D completely takes over the Today screen so customizing the Today screen is absolutely pointless unless you remove TF3D from it.
screen protector is crap and difficult to install.
finally for now . . .
it cost me €650
I know a lot of you are gonna hate me after this post. I dont blame you. I am dissing your beloved new toy, the toy that you paid as much as I did for, the toy that you dearly wanna love cos it cost so much. the toy that you dont wanna hear a bad word said about cos it cost so much.
I'm starting to hate this dam thing.
think you have a defective HD
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it cost me €650
its buggy, hangs sometimes, I keep having to reset
keyboards sometimes dont popup
wifi is very weak (they used a cheap Texas Instrument chip for wifi that under lab tests runs at about 2/3 the performance of the Marvel chip in the iPhone). Again I remind you that I paid €650 for this thing.
ive owned the phone 6 days and already had to do 4 hard resets
cheap crappy speaker
camera lag 3 seconds to take photo
have to use virtal button to take photo
gps lags
cant assign / customise soft buttons (without installing third party cabs)
to do any customization on the dam thing, you have to install 3rd party cabs, ends up with a phone cluttered with all sorts of stuff most of which was not originally written for the HD. Phone gets unstable and starts hanging even more than usual.
touch screen is often unresponsive, the majority of dialogs put the ok button in the top right hand corner where it is least responsive. I often have to tap the buton 5-6 times to get it to respond
have to install everything on storage card as there is very limited storage built in
TouchFlo 3d has lots of bugs (have a read of the forum)
have to use headphones to get radio to work (be nice not to have to, id like to be able to demo the radio and use it in high strength signal areas w/o having to carry headphones around).
radio is noisy with poor reception
cant record radio
browser stops working at the drop of a hat. i.e. you manage to get a wifi connection, you use the web, leave phone for a minute, come back, hit power button, wifi wakes up, browser more often then not will no longer work (cannot find proxy server, no network, dns not available). I have to resolve with another soft reset
browser is a pain to use, it does not zoom intelligently, the amount of time I spend trying to line up after a zoom, then hittig links by mistake or trying to hit links and wondering wtf they do nothing.
the wifi on my unit is poor. i have written to htc and expansys and as of yet (a day and a half later) i have had no reply from either. sickening and worrying!
im in the middle of another hard reset right now after the phone screwed up yet again
doesnt lock properly (when a call comes in)
you have to install .Net 3.5. For god sakes its late 2008, could they not have shipped the rom with it already on there. not only that but you really need to install it onto the device for performance so it takes up valuable space (of which there is not much to begin with)
battery lasts a day at best with light use. if you use wifi and browse for an hour on the train you can reduce that to 3 or 4 hours. pretty lousy
lousy (and I mean LOUSY) video playback. You need a degree in computing to go and decode videos in specific ways to get them to play reasonably. Even the demo video that comes with the phone plays poorly.
hard to scroll through lists on screen without invoking the items on the list. i.e. scrolling the programs list I always end up running unwanted programs
when you send a text message, the phone does nothing, no "sending message" status, no confirmation that message sent. You have to fix with a tweak. again to fix, you have to install schaps config tool that clearly is not written for the HD. Its brilliant and I am not having a go at all but its anothe rlarge cab u have to install just to do the most basic things. jesus a "sending text" status is the most basic requiremt surely to god!!!
very hard to figure out how to disable 3g (cud be real expensive unless u have ur wits about u)
gps is very slow initially and weaker than on normal gps devices. I have had it unable to detect gps signals when my mate beside was using another device and getting signal - just like the wifi.
not possible to edit/customize TouchFlo 3D. You cant put an shortcut to a program on its home page for eg. YOu have to scroll along the awkward scroll bar to get to programs.
TF3D it completely take sover the Today screen so customizing the Today screen is absolutely pointlss unless you remove TF3D from it.
screen protector is crap and difficult to install.
finally for now . . .
it cost me €650
I know a lot of you are gonna hate me after this post. I dont blame you. I am dissing your beloved new toy, the toy that you paid as much as I did for, the toy that you dearly wanna love cos it cost so much. the toy that you dont wanna hear a bad word said about cos it cost so much.
I'm starting to hate this dam thing.
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Your HD is defective
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Your HD is defective
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or perhaps its just not fit for purpose. if it is defective, then wouldn't it be nice of htc or expansys to respond to my email ?
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or perhaps its just not fit for purpose. if it is defective, then wouldn't it be nice of htc or expansys to respond to my email ?
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I wouldnt email. I would call them if its defective...Or talk to the place where you got it for a refund.
I dont think its defective, I think it is a poor product
His soounds about the same as mine. It isn't defective that's just how they are.
Looking at your post history I can only see *****ing and moaning during the past few days.
You are just trolling now.
Is this your first WM device...
I've been using WM pda for 10 years now...the first 2-3 years..some devices are like you describe..but not nowadays..
It's either you have defective unit or you just dont know how to optimize it..
It is not like Iphone that works perfectly out of the box..
I will say no more. However the browsing and freeze ups and difficulties in using it are what I have experienced. So far my wifi works though. Most of the things I was *****ing about is what the OP is talking about so... go figure.
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I'm *****ing and moaning as you put it because I have spent a lot of money on a poor product. Thus this post.
I am sorry if you think it a troll. If people want this thread removed then please feel free.
I thought he was saying I am a troll LOL Gt mine has many of the same problems don't worry about it.
I think there is a bug somewhere which hangs the device frequently. It need to be solved. If you're patient and wait, I'm sure the XDA community, with all the talents around, will solve it one day. Of course, we should also report to HTC (which someone already has, and provided the links here to them) and get a firmware update from them.
Hopefully, you also look at all the good things: your wide choice of GPS software, the fantastic office applications, the wide choice of software keybaord, etc.
If you're new to the Winmo world, I understand it could be difficult in the begining.
In you want to get away from the winmo world, your choice is iPhone, Nokia, Blackberry and the like. You need to know what your requirements are. Do not jump from one imperfect solution to another imperfect solution. Sit back to define your requirement before making your next purchase. Otherwise you will have many many more €650 down the drain.
Do you have an Hd now Steve? Also in another thread I asked if Hd will improve the software, now that it is out only devs here will fix it? That's sort of sad. I don't mean anything against the devs here I am sure you guys do a great job.
thanks to everyone who replied, god I really have started something here havn't I.
I know, be patient, its not all bad, etc etc.
But hey, look at the WiFi issue for example.
This doesn't mean I have a defective phone, It means I have a poor product.
Theres a cheap crappy chip built into the phone. That cannot be fixed with a hack or software update or a replacement
Some of your complaints such as freezing and lagginess I have also experienced. The zoom not centering and links not being clickable are certainly valid concerns. My HD behaves exactly the same. I can understand that maybe you have a bad chip as well. In another thread here some people couldn'y understand how frustrating that can be.
Great Post Eagle
eaglesteve said:
I think there is a bug somewhere which hangs the device frequently. It need to be solved. If you're patient and wait, I'm sure the XDA community, with all the talents around, will solve it one day. Of course, we should also report to HTC (which someone already has, and provided the links here to them) and get a firmware update from them.
Hopefully, you also look at all the good things: your wide choice of GPS software, the fantastic office applications, the wide choice of software keybaord, etc.
If you're new to the Winmo world, I understand it could be difficult in the begining.
In you want to get away from the winmo world, your choice is iPhone, Nokia, Blackberry and the like. You need to know what your requirements are. Do not jump from one imperfect solution to another imperfect solution. Sit back to define your requirement before making your next purchase. Otherwise you will have many many more €650 down the drain.
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Ive had a lot of WM devices too...THis one beats them all. Daughter has iphone. CUte phone, good for talking to others and music. Win Mobile is far from perfect, but its like Eagle says, weigh what you like and dont like, dont shift to another pda without counting the cost and research. Go and research some of the other phones too. Visit the forums, they have their share of problems too. For me the HD doesnt do everything i would like, some i wish improves. But there is no phone that is the perfect phone anywhere. Hope you find what you like. Not easy in the PDA world. Good luck!!
ryaninuk said:
Do you have an Hd now Steve? Also in another thread I asked if Hd will improve the software, now that it is out only devs here will fix it? That's sort of sad. I don't mean anything against the devs here I am sure you guys do a great job.
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My HD has not arrived yet, but I hope it's either today or tomorrow. The ebay seller which claims to be based in Melbourne, is apparently shipping out of Hong Kong.
There is a thread on the device hanging that I'm watching. Hopefullly someone nails the bug. I'm sure there is a bug somewhere.
When I started using my Athena, hanging was a common problem. Now it is gone. Sometimes it is due to defective storage card, sometimes it is wrong formatting parameters being used for the storage card, sometimes it is lack of optimization in the ROM... but eventually it got fixed.
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thanks to everyone who replied, god I really have started something here havn't I.
I know, be patient, its not all bad, etc etc.
But hey, look at the WiFi issue for example.
This doesn't mean I have a defective phone, It means I have a poor product.
Theres a cheap crappy chip built into the phone. That cannot be fixed with a hack or software update or a replacement
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Have you tried changing the setting to have best performance instead of battery life? It might just help to keep the WIFI signal a little more stable.
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it cost me €650
its buggy, hangs sometimes, I keep having to reset
keyboards sometimes dont popup
wifi is very weak (they used a cheap Texas Instrument chip for wifi that under lab tests runs at about 2/3 the performance of the Marvel chip in the iPhone). Again I remind you that I paid €650 for this thing.
ive owned the phone 6 days and already had to do 4 hard resets
cheap crappy speaker
camera lag 3 seconds to take photo
have to use virtal button to take photo
gps lags
cant assign / customise soft buttons (without installing third party cabs)
to do any customization on the dam thing, you have to install 3rd party cabs, ends up with a phone cluttered with all sorts of stuff most of which was not originally written for the HD. Phone gets unstable and starts hanging even more than usual.
touch screen is often unresponsive, the majority of dialogs put the ok button in the top right hand corner where it is least responsive. I often have to tap the buton 5-6 times to get it to respond
have to install everything on storage card as there is very limited storage built in
TouchFlo 3d has lots of bugs (have a read of the forum)
have to use headphones to get radio to work (be nice not to have to, id like to be able to demo the radio and use it in high strength signal areas w/o having to carry headphones around).
radio is noisy with poor reception
cant record radio
browser stops working at the drop of a hat. i.e. you manage to get a wifi connection, you use the web, leave phone for a minute, come back, hit power button, wifi wakes up, browser more often then not will no longer work (cannot find proxy server, no network, dns not available). I have to resolve with another soft reset
browser is a pain to use, it does not zoom intelligently, the amount of time I spend trying to line up after a zoom, then hitting links by mistake or trying to hit links and wondering wtf they do nothing.
the wifi on my unit is poor. i have written to htc and expansys and as of yet (a day and a half later) i have had no reply from either. sickening and worrying!
im in the middle of another hard reset right now after the phone screwed up yet again
doesnt lock properly (when a call comes in)
you have to install .Net 3.5. For god sakes its late 2008, could they not have shipped the rom with it already on there. not only that but you really need to install it onto device storage rather than card storage for performance so it takes up valuable space (of which there is not much to begin with)
battery lasts a day at best with light use. if you use wifi and browse for an hour on the train you can reduce that to 3 or 4 hours. pretty lousy
lousy (and I mean LOUSY) video playback. You need a degree in computing to go and encode videos in specific ways to get them to play reasonably. Even the demo video that comes with the phone plays poorly.
hard to scroll through lists on screen without invoking the items on the list. i.e. scrolling the programs list I always end up running unwanted programs
when you send a text message, the phone does nothing, no "sending message" status, no confirmation that message sent. You have to fix with a tweak. again to fix, you have to install schaps config tool that clearly is not written for the HD. Its brilliant and I am not having a go at all but its anothe rlarge cab u have to install just to do the most basic things. jesus a "sending text" status is the most basic requiremt surely to god!!!
very hard to figure out how to disable 3g (cud be real expensive unless u have ur wits about u)
gps is very slow initially and weaker than on normal gps devices. I have had it unable to detect gps signals when my mate beside was using another device and getting signal - just like the wifi.
not possible to edit/customize TouchFlo 3D. You can't put an shortcut to a program on its home page for eg. You have to scroll along the awkward scroll bar to get to programs.
TF3D completely takes over the Today screen so customizing the Today screen is absolutely pointless unless you remove TF3D from it.
screen protector is crap and difficult to install.
finally for now . . .
it cost me €650
I know a lot of you are gonna hate me after this post. I dont blame you. I am dissing your beloved new toy, the toy that you paid as much as I did for, the toy that you dearly wanna love cos it cost so much. the toy that you dont wanna hear a bad word said about cos it cost so much.
I'm starting to hate this dam thing.
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grandma?
ops, sorry, you sound just like her...
wfhowell said:
Ive had a lot of WM devices too...THis one beats them all. Daughter has iphone. CUte phone, good for talking to others and music. Win Mobile is far from perfect, but its like Eagle says, weigh what you like and dont like, dont shift to another pda without counting the cost and research. Go and research some of the other phones too. Visit the forums, they have their share of problems too. For me the HD doesnt do everything i would like, some i wish improves. But there is no phone that is the perfect phone anywhere. Hope you find what you like. Not easy in the PDA world. Good luck!!
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I never had any illusion thinking that HD is a perfect device. I already made a lot of noise about the small screen size (I wanted a 4.5 inch), lack of D-pad etc. But hey, we do research first, and go in with our eye open and not have false expectation.l
How to start a small Earthquake with your Touch Pro 2.
Step 1: Go to Settings, and set Phone to either Vibrate, Vibrate and Ring or Ring then Vibrate.
Step 2: Have someone call the same device that was set to vibrate and be prepared to hold on to something!
Yes. This was sarcasm Sorry if it wasn't your type of humor, but I just wanted to get across the fact that the vibration for the Touch Pro 2 (for Sprint at least) is insane. If my Ringer Volume isn't at it's max, the vibration will drown out the sound for the Ringer.
Also, if I'm in class (I'm a college student) and I have it set to vibrate, every single person in the class knows I have a call/text. A little ridiculous with the class is about 70 people.
I've posted a thread on PPC Geeks and people have similar problems, but no luck finding a fix and/or making a fix. Anyone here feel the same way?
Anyone know of a fix or can maybe experiment on a fix?
(Again, sorry if this wasn't funny, I thought I could add a little humor to the issue, lol)
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... if I'm in class (I'm a college student) and I have it set to vibrate, every single person in the class knows I have a call/text. A little ridiculous with the class is about 70 people ... Anyone know of a fix or can maybe experiment on a fix?
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Here's the right fix: don't have your phone on during class -- listen to the prof instead (some humour and sarcasm back atcha).
I'm just going to assume there is no fix. lol
I seem to remember some time ago, when searching for Touch Pro (1) Tweaks, that there was a registry key that could be edited to change the vibration level. Who knows, it may still work. Though if you find it and you go that route, be sure to read all instructions. If it doesn't work, then you will either have to edit it back to the original, or delete the key (in the event that the key was not there). In extreme cases, you might have to do a factory reset, so backing up is reccomended (Microsoft Myphone is good for backing up nearly all unrecoverable things, like address book, pics, documents, texts, etc.
As I rarely have vibrate turned on, I haven't really run into this problem, yet. But this may be a solution worth looking into.
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I seem to remember some time ago, when searching for Touch Pro (1) Tweaks, that there was a registry key that could be edited to change the vibration level. Who knows, it may still work. Though if you find it and you go that route, be sure to read all instructions. If it doesn't work, then you will either have to edit it back to the original, or delete the key (in the event that the key was not there). In extreme cases, you might have to do a factory reset, so backing up is reccomended (Microsoft Myphone is good for backing up nearly all unrecoverable things, like address book, pics, documents, texts, etc.
As I rarely have vibrate turned on, I haven't really run into this problem, yet. But this may be a solution worth looking into.
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If anyone could do that, it would be bloody effing awesome. I've been looking everyday, searching in threads for any fixes but nothing. I've tried myself a little bit but I'm not a...expert, lol at the whole registry things.
Ha! Same thing happens to me in class so I just set it on silent and deal with not being notified of anything. I've never had a phone vibration that actually startled me, but it happens.
There's a couple of registry fixes I've seen for this, it never really bothered me. I just open my phone up like a laptop and put it on silent when I'm at work.. if anything comes up it shows up on the screen.
I'm sorry I can't actually provide you with those registry fixes, you'll have to spend a night searching through the forums or google.
BUT http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-vibro.html
This program here might help change the vibrate pattern making it not as long of a vibrate cause I know my text messages do a solid vibrate for a good 2-3 seconds it feels like..
Hope this helps.
PS.. Why are you awake in class anyways, I slept through all of my classes.
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PS.. Why are you awake in class anyways, I slept through all of my classes.
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lmao very good question. Maybe a very good answer is that the vibration wakes me up! lol
Solution: Silent :O
Don't forget this is a "business" phone and as such people like to pretend to be being considerate by switching their phone to vibrate but still want people in the room to know how important they are in that they are being contacted all through the meeting.
Sarcasm aside I would say the vibrate on mine (T-Mo TP2) is weak to say the least. Often don't notice its vibrating... So if you find a setting, I'd like to ramp mine up!
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Solution: Silent :O
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Wow. You are a genius. Seriously.
Anyways, I suppose my sarcasm in the first post opened a door for a little less productive sarcasm. Anyways, I have still been searching and have found nothing.
It's interesting to know that the T-mo TP2 has a lower vibration! Very peculiar. I'll keep looking through my registry but so far I have come up dry.
thelovatscout said:
Wow. You are a genius. Seriously.
Anyways, I suppose my sarcasm in the first post opened a door for a little less productive sarcasm. Anyways, I have still been searching and have found nothing.
It's interesting to know that the T-mo TP2 has a lower vibration! Very peculiar. I'll keep looking through my registry but so far I have come up dry.
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i have the TMo TP2 also and the vibration is rather strong.....no fix in sight....oh well .....just do like i do, put it in your pocket and enjoy!
lol....sorry sarcasm is addictive
thelovatscout said:
Wow. You are a genius. Seriously.
Anyways, I suppose my sarcasm in the first post opened a door for a little less productive sarcasm. Anyways, I have still been searching and have found nothing.
It's interesting to know that the T-mo TP2 has a lower vibration! Very peculiar. I'll keep looking through my registry but so far I have come up dry.
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i have the TMo TP2 also and the vibration is rather strong.....no fix in sight....oh well .....just do like i do, put it in your pocket and enjoy!
lol....sorry, sarcasm is addictive
i think the vibration is strong for my tmo tp2. i work at wal mart part time and it gets very busy and loud. when i get a message the managers that are next to me can hear it vibrate through my pocket! so i've been leaving it on silent lately.
thelovatscout said:
Wow. You are a genius. Seriously.
Anyways, I suppose my sarcasm in the first post opened a door for a little less productive sarcasm. Anyways, I have still been searching and have found nothing.
It's interesting to know that the T-mo TP2 has a lower vibration! Very peculiar. I'll keep looking through my registry but so far I have come up dry.
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Maybe there was sarcasm meant back, but not sure it should be classified as "a little less productive" as, seriously, why do you need the vibrate active in class anyway and can't just switch it to silent?
LOL...yea good sarcasim! I cant put my phone in vib during meetings either, just too loud. But I think it is the truth in most of the pda phones! Best way to deal with this is put in silent.
wow to think this is a problem is kinda funny. i totally understand how the loudness would be a problem for some but for the first time in a long time with a mobile phone i can have the device set on vibrate and actually know the device is vibrating. last time i could use effective vibration setting was back in the RIM 950/957 days maybe even older skytel pager days....
good luck in your search and if you find a way to make it even stronger send the info my way
Good Vibrations
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wow to think this is a problem is kinda funny. i totally understand how the loudness would be a problem for some but for the first time in a long time with a mobile phone i can have the device set on vibrate and actually know the device is vibrating. last time i could use effective vibration setting was back in the RIM 950/957 days maybe even older skytel pager days....
good luck in your search and if you find a way to make it even stronger send the info my way
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Did anyone have success with the .cab?
I'm also seeking a way to immediately toggle to SILENT instead of VIBRATE using Rhodium Keyboard Controller - but to no avail. Help anyone?
Got a new Telus TP2 here, and I came across this thread looking for a way to BUMP UP the vibration. I've missed every call since I've got this phone because the vibrate is almost unnoticeable... compared to my titan which gave me a jolt when it vibrated.
Anyway, to be helpful, I am going to suggest you guys look into PhoneAlarm ( hxxp://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html ) , which I used on my titan... I think it has settings to make the vibrate longer or shorter (Custom LED color / vibrate pattern per alarm ). I would have checked it before I posted, but it may be a while before I get around to playing with it. Good luck all.
For me it's always been more of a good thing than a bad thing.... Especially when I'm at the mall or somewhere loud and I'm moving. A weak vibration just isn't cutting it. So yeah, you should probably just go to silent mode if it's too strong for your liking. Not too hard to figure out.
help when i try to make a call on my HD2 the phone crashes then it i try to end the call my pressing the end key. i the lock the phone and guess what about 5mons later it decides it wants to call. i end up with calls 18mins long and a phone billl or £170 what do i do the is the phone faulty???? this phone has NOT been hardspl-ed and has always had a stock rom. what do i do is the phone faulty? and it has next to no apps. app it has it myphone, marketplace and the stock copilot which i dont this i have ever clicked on the app oh and netframwork 3.5 thats about it.
hard reset, the phone, if still happens take it back and demand a replacement and hope you can make it do it again when you are in the shop, never heard this one before but not good,
although i would of prob whipped the battery out if i could disconnect the call
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hard reset, the phone, if still happens take it back and demand a replacement and hope you can make it do it again when you are in the shop, never heard this one before but not good,
although i would of prob whipped the battery out if i could disconnect the call
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ive done all them this is be second device. am i eligable for them to refund me or terminate the contract because the device is not fit for use under the sale of good act? what do you think? also gonna try and claim the money back from htc or the retairer
i got a 4,000.00 dollar phone bill once.... no one in the world can beat that....
ProjektFuze said:
i got a 4,000.00 dollar phone bill once.... no one in the world can beat that....
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was that with the hd2?
lnoormohamed said:
yeah but u were actually using it right? where i wasnt actually on the phone.
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I severely doubt he ran up a 4k phone bill through phone calls, texts and data charges he intentionally made.
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I severely doubt he ran up a 4k phone bill through phone calls, texts and data charges he intentionally made.
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sota was thinking about that after i posted
lnoormohamed said:
help when i try to make a call on my HD2 the phone crashes then it i try to end the call my pressing the end key. i the lock the phone
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just confirm please, when you say the phone crashes, do you mean it actually crashes, or the screen becomes unresponsive? If it is the screen that stops responding, check you dont have 'increased tap time' tweak installed either as a cab or as part of bsbtweaks, because this causes unresponsive screen on call screen.
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just confirm please, when you say the phone crashes, do you mean it actually crashes, or the screen becomes unresponsive? If it is the screen that stops responding, check you dont have 'increased tap time' tweak installed either as a cab or as part of bsbtweaks, because this causes unresponsive screen on call screen.
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no litteraly the phone crashes the hardware buttons dont responding, you have to wait a while for it to work. i usally keep pressing the end key to try to stop dialing out but it has a mind of its own. useually the phone starts to dial outafter 5mins or so when the phone is locked
nice. if it were me, id give it a chance at a hard reset, then straight back to where it came from.
(course, it slightly possibly could be the sim card, know anyone on same network you can borrow a sim from?
yea... no one can believe it.... its almost impossible.... but i did... and at the time i wanted to shoot myself... but now i use it to make people shocked
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nice. if it were me, id give it a chance at a hard reset, then straight back to where it came from.
(course, it slightly possibly could be the sim card, know anyone on same network you can borrow a sim from?
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No point because it's not the cause of the problem. I had this once about a week after i got my leo. At the time i was running the phone as delivered and it was hanging (not crashing. this is a "hang" in the traditional PC sense) all over the place. This particular situation is the same.
What's happening is the processor is becoming hot and is down clocking itself to allow it to cool. At the same time Sense is asking for a crap load of memory transfers all while your trying to make a call. The phone decides that Sense is more important than the user and stops responding to you until it has cleared it's instruction queue. This is why if you leave it for a while (10 minutes or so) the phone will suddenly start responding again. That is unless Sense gets an instruction timeout and actually does crash (had that a few times).
I cured it by installing Leocpuspeed and disabling the autoscalling and setting the clock speed to 998Mhz. It allows the processor to plough through it's queue faster giving it more free time to respond to the user. I've also noticed that the cooked 6.5.5 roms that have newer versions of sense also respond better OTB.
I can't explain it dialing by on it's own though. A few possibilities here. It could be someone dicking about with a paired bluetooth headset all the way to a virus picked up from a website or a poorly sourced app. I couldn't say for sure because the OP is being pretty vague tbf.
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No point because it's not the cause of the problem. I had this once about a week after i got my leo. At the time i was running the phone as delivered and it was hanging (not crashing. this is a "hang" in the traditional PC sense) all over the place. This particular situation is the same.
What's happening is the processor is becoming hot and is down clocking itself to allow it to cool. At the same time Sense is asking for a crap load of memory transfers all while your trying to make a call. The phone decides that Sense is more important than the user and stops responding to you until it has cleared it's instruction queue. This is why if you leave it for a while (10 minutes or so) the phone will suddenly start responding again. That is unless Sense gets an instruction timeout and actually does crash (had that a few times).
I cured it by installing Leocpuspeed and disabling the autoscalling and setting the clock speed to 998Mhz. It allows the processor to plough through it's queue faster giving it more free time to respond to the user. I've also noticed that the cooked 6.5.5 roms that have newer versions of sense also respond better OTB.
I can't explain it dialing by on it's own though. A few possibilities here. It could be someone dicking about with a paired bluetooth headset all the way to a virus picked up from a website or a poorly sourced app. I couldn't say for sure because the OP is being pretty vague tbf.
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thank for the info i am going to send it back to the retailer to try and cliam the costs back from the incrred callls. but i had trouble replcating the problems under camera
here is a video of my sis doing the demo of the fault http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Url7Z6Oqk
and only have installed
copilot stock install
myphone
marketplace
net 3.5
opera 10
and thats it.
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i got a 4,000.00 dollar phone bill once.... no one in the world can beat that....
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I've worked for a company where one of our customers had a £855.00 phone call... (single call)
They really shouldn't let drunk people call 0906 numbers and then forget to hang up the phone until lunchtime the next day.
£1.50 x 570minutes (about 9.5 hours) = £855 ooops
Thing is the call they made was to our content line so we got the £640 of it (we did pay them it back as a good-will gesture minus the item cost and an administrative cost, although the cheeky sod tried to blame our system for forcing his telephone to stay connected to it... moron lol)
I would also speak to your operator and tell them you've had a fault which has led to a hefty bill, my daughter had a similiar issue with vodafone and infairness they refunded the full amount once we proved her phone had an issue at the vodafone store, it was a phone provided by vodafone and they were really good about it her bill was £280 for a month, they refunded the full difference to the normal £25 contract...
They might not refund it all but they might refund part of the cost as its obviously not your fault...
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I would also speak to your operator and tell them you've had a fault which has led to a hefty bill, my daughter had a similiar issue with vodafone and infairness they refunded the full amount once we proved her phone had an issue at the vodafone store, it was a phone provided by vodafone and they were really good about it her bill was £280 for a month, they refunded the full difference to the normal £25 contract...
They might not refund it all but they might refund part of the cost as its obviously not your fault...
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thank you so much for the info same sorta situation. i got me phone from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk reason is that they sell the phones unlocked and unbranded. phoned up vodafone they said have to see retaier or manufacter. phoned up retaier and they said to phone htc.
so phoned htc up 5 times today and could not get connected to anyone. just sent them an email explaing the fault and the video. hopefull they will give me a call and i hope that i can claim the money back....
now i have to play the waiting game.
yeah, call your service provider, if the large bill was due to a defect in their phone you should not be responsible to pay for it. If the phone does become unresponsive again and you can't hang up you can always soft reset or pull the battery and sim.
I just watched the video and read all the comments. From what you have said i think you may just struggle to get the refund. the reasons are thus:
You said the phone was not sold to you by your operator. this therefore means they have no obligation to refund any charges caused by a faulty device but i'll bet if you send your sister and get her to ask really nice, flutter the eyelids a little and maybe flash some skin you my get somewhere.
Next don't send the phone back. Waste of time!! from the video i can assure you that is a software fault (and one that would be very difficult to replicate in normal everyday usage) and the new phone will have the same problem. I suggest you look at using a cooked 6.5.5 rom with sense 2.5.2016 where the issue has been fixed. If the phone does ever need to be replaced then you can just flash a stock rom back on to it.
I actually got this for the first time yesterday when trying to make a call, the phone just locked up completely, just pulled the battery and re-booted and been fine since,
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thanks for this, dude. I've been having hanging oroblems for ages now and will give this a go this evening. I was convinced it was a sensd problem as the Windows menu srill seemed to respond during the freeze.
i have kinda had the phonecall thing, although I've always been able to catch it by whipping the battery out or mashing the end button as it tries to connect.
I'm aware of apps like NoLock which disable the Vibrants lock screens. I was thinking about it and is there really any reason to have a lock screen? Seems like it's just an added step and a potential waste of battery. Thoughts?
To make sure you don't mess **** up if you accidentally hit your power button in your pocket
Right, I was rocking them way back in the day when you could pocket dial your whole phonebook with hardware # buttons, but with the Vibrant I've never noticed messing with the hardware buttons just from it being in my pocket.
Well, actually there are a lot of benefits to having the lock screen.
- You could turn up your ringer in a situation where you need to have it on silent.
- Quickly control music without draining battery by going to the actual music app.
- Seeing what type of notifications you get without pulling out the entire UI.
There are added benefits to disabling the lock screen, but you will probably encounter enough problems to make it not worth it.
true, I hadn't considered the music aspect
How about the fact that it's a secuirty mechanism?
No need for it. It was one of the first things I disabled.
Here's why:
-Accidentally messing it in your pocket somehow? Even if you manage to hit the power button and make it come on, it won't do anything as the screen is activated through electricity of your fingers. That's how it works. Nothing in your pocket can make it do ANYTHING, even if its on. If you REACH in your pocket and its on, then yes, you can hit something.
-Music app. SUPER easy to switch music when you have no lock screen. Simply Hit power button and swipe away anywhere on teh screen to change a song. VERY VERY useful while driving and u can't afford to look at the screen.
-Easier to respond to texts. You don't need to unlock it to do stuff now. MUCH simplifies everything but notifications are especially convinient to deal with.
-ACTUALLY saves battery. Try it. No lock screen will net you NO loss in battery life and is likely to increase it as you won't go through a locking screen every time. You quickly develop a habit of turning it off by the power key when ur done with something and turning it back on when you need it. It's instant, quick, and saves on juice.
I don't know of a SINGLE reason to keep a lock screen except for aesthetics or if you want to prevent people using your phone (in which case its a passworded lockscreen). Those are the only 2 reasons really. . .
how about to check out the time, see missed calls or texts easily because sometime the notification bar is full of notifications, and it is a great way to check the time without people seeing what you have been using in your phone and also it turns off fast so you dont have to press the power button twice.
I wouldn't take it off only because I see more advantages than disadvantages.
Just my two cents.
Better not lose your phones. No lock makes it that much easier to grab your data, regardless if you report it and the phone becomes a brick. Think of all that stuff the person who found it would be able to do. Get a list of your contacts, find the last few places you visited, make calls, etc... An exposed phone would be an identity theives dream.
And just think... you could slow them down with a simple pattern lock. Ignorant not to use that layer.
The security feature is pretty meaningless to me. I'm not ultra scared of someone finding my phone and having my friends and my weed dealers phone numbers.
Lol @ TC
This thread is so pointless
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SeanFloyd said:
The security feature is pretty meaningless to me. I'm not ultra scared of someone finding my phone and having my friends and my weed dealers phone numbers.
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Okay. Would you mind posting a copy of your contacts in this thread? Most likely not, unless of course you have zero respect for your contacts information, in which case you should let your friends know how wreckless you are being with their data.
The point is, you may not lose this phone or your next or the one after that. It is a fact that unless you take ownership of your information, you put yourself at risk of making details you consider private, public.
One word:
Children.
Without a lock screen, my kids would have done things to my phone that I can not even imagine. lol
thenotoriouspie said:
Lol @ TC
This thread is so pointless
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Not entirely pointless. It provided a chance for you to be a prick
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Not entirely pointless. It provided a chance for you to be a prick
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And for you a chance to come off as a complete moron. I guess not all is lost, eh?
Well, different strokes for different folks. I'm rarely ever more than 5 feet away from phone, so I don't worry too much about the security aspect. I do turn it on if I'm going out to a bar or club or something, but otherwise the lock screen just slows me down.
ipugh said:
One word:
Children.
Without a lock screen, my kids would have done things to my phone that I can not even imagine. lol
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..... or just don't let your kids use your phone as a toy. The lock screen doesn't keep it from going in the toilet if the kid is very young.
The lock screen strikes me as feature-creep.
NoLock was the first non-rooting-related thing I installed.