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Make Taskbar Grey?

Is there any way to change the taskbar at the top from black to gray like stock android?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730175
The dark grey it is now is useless, I'd turn it black and spare battery and burn in problems...

Hey thats my morph... The text is still white... And it should have the h symbol... It works though.. What are these burn in and battery problems you talk about?
I don't think it was ever proven a black led uses less power than white and my g1 has had a white bar for almost 2 years and no burn in problems...
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G1 was LCD pixels were lit regardless of color displayed.
On an AMOLED screen pixels represent black by turning off. Black cannot be burned in and will not use battery. The symbols could still burn in eventually but fortunately the time is always changing as are the signal bars on tmobile
There is plenty of proof floating around from the nexus one (also amoled) saving battery by having a black theme. I'm not gonna dig it up, it's there. They ran multiple tests on identical phones black saved most then red, I think green and blue were mid and of course white is the worst.

So your saying lcd screens don't have burn in? Or that oled is worse? Not meaning to put words in your mouth... I just enjoy a white/light look..
I still think that is a marketing ploy by apple not to buy oled screens..
I think the phone will be obselete by the time it starts to deteriorate...
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junkdruggler said:
So your saying lcd screens don't have burn in? Or that oled is worse? Not meaning to put words in your mouth... I just enjoy a white/light look..
I still think that is a marketing ploy by apple not to buy oled screens..
I think the phone will be obselete by the time it starts to deteriorate...
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LCD does have burn in, the difference is on LCD any color can cause it, so on a g1 making the bar black has no benefit.
I'm not trying to tell you what to like, believe me I love android's ability to let us have this choice/conversation.
Clearly google agrees with you on preferring a white look: first the notification bar, then the market, now maps.
I agree deterioration will probably not be an issue for most, as long as you don't set it to stay awake while charging and leave it in a browser window or something all day every day.

Also, what did apple say about oled? I dint know they had a stance on it. I figured they would be going there soon for either phones or laptops

You think there'd be an easy way to do this.. I don't know why but I'm highly turned off by the black bar. Brings back memories of the WinMo nightmare. Lol

I'll send a message to cloverdale and manup... See if one of them went to change the xml so we can have black font in the status bar...
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Actually modern LCD displays do not suffer from burn in. I have had an LCD monitor on my windows computer with the exact same taskbar displayed for months and even years, with zero burn in. I have no idea about OLED though.
What's more, even if LCD did suffer burn in, changing the taskbar to black would then cause the taskbar area to not burn in while the rest of the screen did, leading to a situation where you could still see the spot on the screen where the taskbar resided. That's why a lot of plasma TVs and dvd players have the option of putting grey bars on the side of an image that does not fill the screen, with the idea that the grey is closest to what the rest of the display is showing.
The bottom line is I don't think anyone needs to worry about burning in their LCD screen. This is the Vibrant forum, so we should be concerned only about OLED here. So, does anyone have a real answer about burn in on OLED screens? Wikipedia seems to think so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED.

So the life is 5 years at 8 hours a day? Half life is about 30 months... Like I said before... We will probably have a new phone by the time out screen starts to be less "vibrant"
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So can anyone confirm that the striations or lines on the screen are normal??
Im talking about when you pull down the notifications bar there are light lines that come down vertically and soma cases are horizontal.
Please let me know I got 30 days with it. thanks!

azzeh3 said:
So can anyone confirm that the striations or lines on the screen are normal??
Im talking about when you pull down the notifications bar there are light lines that come down vertically and soma cases are horizontal.
Please let me know I got 30 days with it. thanks!
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my first nexus s had darker whites than the display model at the store. I would recommend comparing yours with the store display or another persons nexus s, I think this is the best way, since we cant physically see how your phone screen looks. good luck

Are you referring to the gray section where your service provider is listed? Or the very dark area where the notifications are listed?
If I stare I can see some lines in the gray area.
I do see a slight grid pattern in the power control widget.

No I'm talking about grey section where your messages show up
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I think its screen burn in already
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I don't have a Nexus S, but I have a Galaxy S i9000M which has a similar (if not exactly the same) screen. If I bring up a screen that is a solid colour, I do notice some imperfections like you describe. They are hardly noticeable though.

Weird. My nexus doesn't have that and I would know, I modded my nexus 1 to be pretty much like gingerbread 6 months back, massive burn in.
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actually no.... mine doesn't have any lines or defects.
the only lines are the horizontal ones separating the notifications.

I think I know what you mean. My N1 on certain backgrounds has very faint grey lines. Not always visible, even on white web pages
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dudeimgeorge said:
Weird. My nexus doesn't have that and I would know, I modded my nexus 1 to be pretty much like gingerbread 6 months back, massive burn in.
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Why would that cause burn in more than anything else?

I don't know but I don't want it to get worse over time
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Yes, I can see it. I can see it on any AMOLED/SAMOLED phone I've ever come in contact with. It's the nature of AMOLED screens unlike most LCD screens. With AMOLED, each pixel is individually powered, and it's impossible to have each pixel (or subpixel) be identical, which leads to slight differences in output and color reproduction. An LCD screen is backlight by either florescent tubes or recently, LEDs, which produce an even backlight (usually) where the colors are controlled by filtering each pixel, rather than having to illuminate each pixel.
Anyway, I only really notice it when the brightness is at the minimum and it's very dark in the place I'm using my phone. If I crank up the brightness or if I'm in a well lit area, I don't notice it at all really. Although if it's VERY obvious, you might have a screen that's significantly lower quality than average... it happens, bad QC or something, exchange it.
Oh, and if you stare at a plasma TV long enough you'll notice the same thing... similar technology, each pixel illuminated individually.

screen border/banding that affects the atrix?

noticed today that on dark colors a thin gray border will appear all around the screen. it is quite annoying....and affects anything displayed on the atrix...well mine at least...and at least a few others too im sure...
i first noticed it with the menu buttons on opera mobile...thought it wad a design element but rather it is a display limitation.
attached is a darkish background downloaded from google images. view and zoom the picture to fill the entire screen. on my atrix the gray border is as clear as day...how bout for you guys?
edit: this isnt backlight bleed nor qhd compatibility issues...it is an actual thin gray line that appears on the screen.

Nope. Just you.
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.

pukemon said:
Nope. Just you.
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No. Its not just him. There was a thread about this before. I for one have the issue but don't notice it 99% of the time.
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ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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it isnt backlight bleed...it is an actual thin gray line that goes around the entire screen...but it only appears when theres a darkish color present at that location. when the background is pure 100pct black it doesnt show up though.
on my phone it is very apparent when viewing the attachment pic in the op and zooming in so that it fills the screen.

Well I'm glad to hear it's not just me. And yes, it's very noticeable and really distracting when I'm watching a video.

ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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Try again.

I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.

I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.

silentecho13 said:
I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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Likewise
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Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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datumdei said:
I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
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how long did you own the atrix before you swapped it out? just wondering since this atrix is about half a year old now...

I just came here to ask about this... I've had my atrix for about 2 days and this is quite distracting.
I probably need to lock bootloader and unroot if I want to get a new phone right?

Here's a quick shot of it.

i just can see this bandings on ur photo with full brightness!
its not important! take it easy!
i think its because of LCD!

vinay427 said:
Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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CM7 doesn't support qHD, might be why.

taitrt said:
Here's a quick shot of it.
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yes! that's the problem exactly...should spread that pic around so people are aware. look at the ghostly rectangle that is created...can see it clearly even on normal brightness. maybe you can find a non-affected atrix like datumdei did...

I would relate it to the gingerbread update. I didn't have it before in Froyo and I tried everything to replicate it, now I can also see it. They must've tune the colors, saturation and other settings because now I don't see the gradient banding in the calculator app and even the XDA app isn't that obvious anymore.
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taitrt said:
Here's a quick shot of it.
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Mine isn't that wide, only about 1/8th of an inch.
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Hey guys, i just got my Atrix yesterday and only notice this when the screen is grey. At first I thought it was screen burn-in from a static image, but after finding this page I feel better knowing its not just me.
Are there any other web pages that you have found related to this issue?
Also, could the android market update have caused this?
If you want to test to see if your phone is doing this, downlod dead pixel test from the android market and tap the screen until it turns grey.

Status bar Image retention / “ burn in ” ?

Just got my HK version of the 16GB Wi-Fi only model last week. So far the 7.7 is pretty darn great. One issue I'm noticing though:
For the first few days I was using the Screen Filter app by haxor industry, so I could comfortable use the tablet at night in bed. The app, however, did not properly dim the status bar containing the navigation buttons & notification tray. I changed my dimming app to ScreenDim, which did the trick.
Now however--when dimming is enabled, and holding the tablet in landscape--- I'm noticing that there is discoloring in the exact area where the portrait-oriented status bar is positioned. The tablet looks fine when I'm working within any of the built-in brightness levels.
Anyone else experiencing anything similar?

Had mine now for just over a week. Have not noticed any burn in so far. Will watch out for it..

Many people claim to have seen the burn in effect of AMOLED. I been using my Galaxy S i9000 close to a year now but I do not notice anything. Maybe is my usage pattern. I don't usually spend more than an hour continuously on the screen. I'll pay more attention to the display unit when I drop by the phone shop next time.

If you are worry, you can try the HideBar apk that hide the status bar, but you need root. I tried it and it's working.
http://ppareit.github.com/HideBar/

I've had mine since the 7th Jan and I have the image burn - the status bar.. Not bothered by it though..
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This is likely due to the fact that the notification icons are blue coloured. In OLED displays, blue sub-pixels degrade faster than either red or green due to the fact that they have to be run at higher power levels to produce the same light levels as the red and green.
All OLED screens degrade and suffer burn-in sooner or later; you cannot avoid this.
Personally, I haven't yet experienced the burn-in effect with my unit, but perhaps another solution to delaying this inevitability is to create a modified build.prop which changes the overall blue theme to green instead?
The SAMOLED+ screen on my SGS2 from last May hasn't shown any signs of degradation yet, probably from the green theme of gingerbread.

Just thought I would chime in here. I just recently sold my GS2 which never did what my Galaxy Nexus does. From time to time when I move about through apps or screens I can still see feint remnants from the previous screen. The best example is going from my home screen to the market where my clock widget is still visible for a few seconds. I can turn my screen off and then on or just continue navigating until it disappears. If this is similar to what my Galaxy Nexus does then I believe it's not really an issue at all. (Although I was expecting differently from the Tabs screen since it's a Plus whereas this is not.)
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Okay, while I don't have the status bar "burn in" yet, I notice that when using the Screen Filter apps to dim the screen, the lower part of the screen (near the Samsung logo) is dimmer than the rest of the screen no matter when it is view in portrait or landscape. I'm not sure if this is cause by the apps itself or the display panel having unequal brightness. No problem when operating with the device standard lowest brightness.

earthman5678 said:
Okay, while I don't have the status bar "burn in" yet, I notice that when using the Screen Filter apps to dim the screen, the lower part of the screen (near the Samsung logo) is dimmer than the rest of the screen no matter when it is view in portrait or landscape. I'm not sure if this is cause by the apps itself or the display panel having unequal brightness. No problem when operating with the device standard lowest brightness.
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Yes; this is exactly what I am experiencing. Assuming it's not the dimming applications' doing, I was wondering if Samsung configure the screen like this on purpose...perhaps as a preventative measure thinking the edge by the Samsung logo would have the static image of status bar the majority of the time in daily use.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
This is likely due to the fact that the notification icons are blue coloured. In OLED displays, blue sub-pixels degrade faster than either red or green due to the fact that they have to be run at higher power levels to produce the same light levels as the red and green.
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Yeah Samsung are geniuses. They can produce the screen, but don't know the limitations. You would think they would avoid using blue for cumpulsory static images that you can't turn off. I don't know why they couldn't use red, green, or yellow in that area and avoid any color with blue in it, including white.
Dumb. dumb. dumb.

DaveC1964 said:
Yeah Samsung are geniuses. They can produce the screen, but don't know the limitations. You would think they would avoid using blue for cumpulsory static images that you can't turn off. I don't know why they couldn't use red, green, or yellow in that area and avoid any color with blue in it, including white.
Dumb. dumb. dumb.
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Agreed. It is quite an oversight.
Having said that, I haven't yet had any burn-in issues with my unit, even with my screen at full brightness just about all the time.

I found a yellowish mark in the same place of status bar when I hide it or change from portrait position to landscape position .. and I can see it only in gray screen like market or settings. I use my tab only for 1 week . Is it burn in? . Dose it go away by itself when I hide the status bar for a long time?

I think it won't go away. Mine got the same yellowwish on the status bar. Actually I love this phone more than any other devices I used to use before but it actually annoy me with this bug screen.
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I was going to sell mine and buy another one.. but now I think I will keep it because this screen bug will be in the most of this device

I must be lucky! I've had my device for almost a month now, run my screen at 100%, and I have yet to experience any issues whatsoever! Odd... Not complaining though!

I'm just wondering is there anyways to fix this bug screen? Is that any firmwares can fix it? I think we should complain to Samsung for this burn screen. It is very annoying :-(
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This bug is more visable at low brightness

I have mine for over three weeks now and I've no discoloration in the status bar area and I'm using the Tab a lot.
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Not all screens are created equally so others may not have burn-ins over 2yrs while others will get it as early as 2 weeks.
Just have it replaced and hope for a better screen.

How much u pay for replacement? Mine can't cuz here no warrenty :-( so sad
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[Q] Screen burnin?

I think I have a problem with my phone, but not too sure if it's normal. I got my phone last Friday. Whenever the screen's on a grey or white background I get discoloured faint thick lines going down it. It is like a hologram.
Just wondering if anyone has the same and how are your display's like
Thanks

your screen is defective, or your gray page isn't actually solid gray. go into a drawing app and make a solid black or white or gray page and confirm it's actually the screen and not the apps you're using.
there's no burn in on amoled. only defective screens
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shinzomask said:
Whenever the screen's on a grey or white background I get discoloured faint thick lines going down it. It is like a hologram.
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You can also test your display dialing the code *#0*# and checking the 3 solid color screens (red, green, blue).

soraxd said:
your screen is defective, or your gray page isn't actually solid gray. go into a drawing app and make a solid black or white or gray page and confirm it's actually the screen and not the apps you're using.
there's no burn in on amoled. only defective screens
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As far as i know Amoled suffers in burn in. My friend's S1 and my S2 has it. Noticeable especially in low brightness. When backgrounds are gradient of black to gray, the screen looks dirty on low brightness. I saw an S3 on Samsung shop had a very visible burn in of a clock widget even on max brightness.

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there's no burn in on amoled. only defective screens
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Due to the different aging characteristics of the individual subpixels you will get a burn-in like screen after a while, especially where content is frequently shown. Like the clock in the notification bar. After a while/few months that spot will be seen when watching a solid colored background for example. Is the case on EVERY amoled screen there is.

Thanks for the replies.
I have tested it using a lcd test app and it is noticeable on a solid grey or white background. It's patches of faded pixels.
Was wondering if anyone with a S4 has the same problem and where would I stand with getting it replaced.
I can understand that amoleds suffer from screen burnin after sometime but not when it's brand new. My old s3 is perfect and I've had that for nearly a year.
Thanks

IMHO get it replaced.

My S4 also does this. Black and white are very good, but grey isn't very good. Check te picture below. I have also added the picture I tested it with.
Should I return it?

JoeyLe said:
My S4 also does this. Black and white are very good, but grey isn't very good. Check te picture below. I have also added the picture I tested it with.
Should I return it?
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i wouldnt put up with that. I had the same thing on my first s4, had it for an hour and said im not living with that, took it back to att and got a new one. now its perfect!
swap that out