My camera lense is broke and I have insurance...I want to get a replacement but I'm s off and rooted can I undo this?
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You can find instructions on how to go back to stock and turn S-on in the development section. The Search button is your friend
Shouldn't be an issue. Reverting back to stock would be advisable for a warranty claim, but is irrelevant as far as insurance is concerned.
Bro, I just received my 5th incredible within 3 months, just make sure you do s-on while you are still rooted as that is required, so s-on, then just run the 2.2 RUU and golden goose.
Thanks guys ill try after school gets out.
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ACD168 said:
Bro, I just received my 5th incredible within 3 months, just make sure you do s-on while you are still rooted as that is required, so s-on, then just run the 2.2 RUU and golden goose.
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Segway...
How the heck do you break a phone 5 times in 3 months? I am curious to know, hah
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Segway...
How the heck do you break a phone 5 times in 3 months? I am curious to know, hah
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Considering a gravitational constant and base atmospheric pressure, the only info we need is:
a. Distance to the ground from the point of origin
b. Nature of material composing the "ground" (see concrete)
c. Tendency of individual to forget phone is in lap when exiting a vehicle
Nitrogenus said:
Considering a gravitational constant and base atmospheric pressure, the only info we need is:
a. Distance to the ground from the point of origin
b. Nature of material composing the "ground" (see concrete)
c. Tendency of individual to forget phone is in lap when exiting a vehicle
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^^ Love this
Nitrogenus said:
Considering a gravitational constant and base atmospheric pressure, the only info we need is:
a. Distance to the ground from the point of origin
b. Nature of material composing the "ground" (see concrete)
c. Tendency of individual to forget phone is in lap when exiting a vehicle
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I ALWAYS do C.....lol
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Nitrogenus said:
Considering a gravitational constant and base atmospheric pressure, the only info we need is:
a. Distance to the ground from the point of origin
b. Nature of material composing the "ground" (see concrete)
c. Tendency of individual to forget phone is in lap when exiting a vehicle
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huh, i have a tendency to drop my phone, and i accidentally threw it accross the floor of a turkey hills once, and my phone hardly got a scratch
kyuubi08 said:
huh, i have a tendency to drop my phone, and i accidentally threw it accross the floor of a turkey hills once, and my phone hardly got a scratch
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Yeah, my phone has popped out of the belt clip a number of times due to catching on my seatbelt when getting out of the car, but it's always held up with little more than a teeny-tiny scratch in one corner.
Granted, I use this Verizon shell - and, that has likely helped minimize any external damage. It adds a small lip around the phone's glass that helps keep it from smashing directly into the ground during a fall.
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One morning woke up to find that my lock screen on my phone has changed sides. Before to unlock it I had to slide the triangle from the lower left in an arc to the right, now the unlock sits on the lower right of my screen and I have to slide it to the left? Don't know how or what has caused this. Anybody have this issue?
1. Wrong section
2. Follow the restore path in reverse direction to change allignment
1. Yeah I realized after I submitted it that it should have been in the General section.
2. Thanks for the info
If you hold down on the lock, you should be able to set which side you want it to scroll up.
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Hi Mr Moe,
On the lock screen, hold your finger down on the top of the arc and simply slide your finger to the left or to the right and you will see the lock arc switch sides, when you remove your finger the arc will stay to the side you set.
Cheers
Stu
Something to note as well. The occurence with the lock screen isn't really a problem as some may suspect.
What happened was, while you were sleeping, your "phone" activated the dimension reverso portal chip. This will cause the phone to operate as a "sliding" device. You see, a worm hole is opened, ripping through the very fabric of time and space, which allows you (or any owner of an X10) to "travel" to other dimensions. In order to return to the when and where from whence you left, your gps must be activated.
If you dropped or banged your phone against something the chip may have been activated erroroneously causing the reverso lock screen dilemma.
The only sure fix is to eat a peanut butter, onion, and mayonaise sandwich while holding down the power button. Most important, lest I forget....The sandwich most be microwaved for 5 minutes and eaten within 45 secs upon removal from said microwave.
If that solution doesn't work I have a team of "homeboys" on stand-by around the clock to lend assisstance.
Something to note as well. The occurence with the lock screen isn't really a problem as some may suspect.
What happened was, while you were sleeping, your "phone" activated the dimension reverso portal chip. This will cause the phone to operate as a "sliding" device. You see, a worm hole is opened, ripping through the very fabric of time and space, which allows you (or any owner of an X10) to "travel" to other dimensions. In order to return to the when and where from whence you left, your gps must be activated.
If you dropped or banged your phone against something the chip may have been activated erroroneously causing the reverso lock screen dilemma.
The only sure fix is to eat a peanut butter, onion, and mayonaise sandwich while holding down the power button. Most important, lest I forget....The sandwich most be microwaved for 5 minutes and eaten within 45 secs upon removal from said microwave.
If that solution doesn't work I have a team of "homeboys" on stand-by around the clock to lend assisstance.
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had to quote the whole thing lmao. you got me at a bus station laughing out loud for real...
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daeshawn said:
had to quote the whole thing lmao. you got me at a bus station laughing out loud for real...
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Good to see some cats around here have a sense of humor.
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Something to note as well. The occurence with the lock screen isn't really a problem as some may suspect.
What happened was, while you were sleeping, your "phone" activated the dimension reverso portal chip. This will cause the phone to operate as a "sliding" device. You see, a worm hole is opened, ripping through the very fabric of time and space, which allows you (or any owner of an X10) to "travel" to other dimensions. In order to return to the when and where from whence you left, your gps must be activated.
If you dropped or banged your phone against something the chip may have been activated erroroneously causing the reverso lock screen dilemma.
The only sure fix is to eat a peanut butter, onion, and mayonaise sandwich while holding down the power button. Most important, lest I forget....The sandwich most be microwaved for 5 minutes and eaten within 45 secs upon removal from said microwave.
If that solution doesn't work I have a team of "homeboys" on stand-by around the clock to lend assisstance.
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lmao someone has a little too much time on their hands
daeshawn said:
had to quote the whole thing lmao. you got me at a bus station laughing out loud for real...
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hahaha great post m8 made me laugh in front of my 1st chef
wcdisciple said:
Something to note as well. The occurence with the lock screen isn't really a problem as some may suspect.
What happened was, while you were sleeping, your "phone" activated the dimension reverso portal chip. This will cause the phone to operate as a "sliding" device. You see, a worm hole is opened, ripping through the very fabric of time and space, which allows you (or any owner of an X10) to "travel" to other dimensions. In order to return to the when and where from whence you left, your gps must be activated.
If you dropped or banged your phone against something the chip may have been activated erroroneously causing the reverso lock screen dilemma.
The only sure fix is to eat a peanut butter, onion, and mayonaise sandwich while holding down the power button. Most important, lest I forget....The sandwich most be microwaved for 5 minutes and eaten within 45 secs upon removal from said microwave.
If that solution doesn't work I have a team of "homeboys" on stand-by around the clock to lend assisstance.
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That has got to be one of the most detailed fixes I've read on this forum - without your help Mr. wcdisciple I would've been stuck in a rip in time where the past, present and future all collide and the only source of food is infact watermellon and grapefruit - luckily enough for me I had a bag of peanuts, a bunch of onions, a tub of whole egg mayonaise in my nap sack. Unfortunately I had to reverse engineer a 1000W microwave from a picture I saw on a local cooking show I saw the night before my untimely depature from this universe.
I thank you from the depth of my snapdragon loving heart.
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That has got to be one of the most detailed fixes I've read on this forum - without your help Mr. wcdisciple I would've been stuck in a rip in time where the past, present and future all collide and the only source of food is infact watermellon and grapefruit - luckily enough for me I had a bag of peanuts, a bunch of onions, a tub of whole egg mayonaise in my nap sack. Unfortunately I had to reverse engineer a 1000W microwave from a picture I saw on a local cooking show I saw the night before my untimely depature from this universe.
I thank you from the depth of my snapdragon loving heart.
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That was good.
Just trying to lighten up this forum a little.
Lol funny thread.. think everyone's pretty frustrated waiting for root..lol
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hmmm i have this same problem but I've ran out of bread... :S
can i just put peanut butter on my phone and microwave that?
sungrad said:
hmmm i have this same problem but I've ran out of bread... :S
can i just put peanut butter on my phone and microwave that?
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Actually you can! But of course you realize the repercussions that comes with such bravado?
But before you go to such extremes, I suggest you call me. I can be reached at 968-277-4653. ext 389
psst...it's not on par with the code the Navajo's used during WWII, but you should be able to figure it out.
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Actually you can! But of course you realize the repercussions that comes with such bravado?
But before you go to such extremes, I suggest you call me. I can be reached at 968-277-4653. ext 389
psst...it's not on par with the code the Navajo's used during WWII, but you should be able to figure it out.
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lol - this is getting funny!
MOD EDIT - Moved to general forum as not related to android development
Here we go
Well best of luck and I WILL be keeping up with this !!!
Subscribing lol
holy crap, already? Subscribed...
would love it if you could check to see if you see the nand chip (probably a square flat pc, soldered on one of the boards) and if it sez "SEM04G" or "SEM02G" on it
that would resolve the issue on internal memory
also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -
tks in advance and definitely subscribed
Wow, OK.
Why?
smasraum said:
Why?
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Lols are you really asking why ?
larryccf said:
also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -
tks in advance and definitely subscribed
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It's hard to take a picture of gravity
AZ2ENVY said:
Lols are you really asking why ?
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In the name of phonecology
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He is taking a huge step noone else will take to find the case of the missing 2GB+
of ROM
Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.
May I ask why your taking it apart?
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WTF !?!? ^^^^ Does anyone read the replies ???
JCopernicus said:
It's hard to take a picture of gravity
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not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -
then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -
probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.
there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves
Well, if we can get proof that it's not a 4GB chip like T-Mobile's claiming, they won't be able to refuse returns/exchanges.
Arcadia310 said:
Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.
May I ask why your taking it apart?
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Damn, this is interesting!
larryccf said:
not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -
then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -
probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.
there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves
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Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.
Salute for this astonishing attempt
One hinge is easy the other is not. The one up with the copper strip (which must be pealed to reveal another screw) is a *****. The mobo is very thin. Will try again tomorrow after I have fun upgrading vCenter servers at work.
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Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.
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try what i described -
Guys,
As the needs for extra juice without "downgrading" features, with preference to maintain slim profile for the handset, looks like an additional battery is a must.
Coming from Streak, the flimsy battery cover design for Note is new to me. It seems that it had exactly the same design as SGS 2, which I never owns. Streak's battery cover is made of metal, and if done carefully, battery cover removal/reinstallation in daily basis won't harm it.
Any ideas on Note's battery cover?
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
- Frank
not very difficult to remove. i just yank out the stylus and use the little corners there to get a few clicks off, then i just take it off from there.
the covers are very cheap anyways.
ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
- Frank
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Omg it seems that the cover is indestructible! Thanks for the vids!
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ChodTheWacko said:
It's quite strong, I wouldn't worry about it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA
- Frank
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WHO-EVER says anything/comments about the SGS2 or Note's back cover I will just reply with that video. Just the link. Nothing more.
On a second thought I might even drop a line, like: "It might be cheap, but it's more durable than many phones as a whole."
Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.
I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.
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I have both devices. The back plate will wear well.
Removal is easy on both, but reattaching is easier on the Note. You have to start at the bottom and work your way up to get all the fasteners to click properly. I've needed to remove it and restart on occasion with the SGSII. Not a huge deal but with the note, you can just put it in place and start mashing it down. No worries.
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Thanks. But the fasteners, do they ever get loose or broken? On the plate or (hopefully not) the phone?
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That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.
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Why do you think you need an extended battery on this phone?
I can use mine for two days of solid use without it dying.
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I always get the display to be the highest battery drain on my usage. It's almost 2-4 times of other components like Android OS, etc. So I'm not sure how I'm going to get longer uptime unless I stop using the screen -- which is the reason I bought it at the first place
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That would be very hard to do. The fasteners are on the plate, not the phone itself.
If you were to mangle something, you'd bend or crease a fastener. You could bend it back, or more severely, cut it off. There are enough fasteners where you could afford to loose one with minimal problems.
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Perfect! Thank you!
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There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page
ZoinksS2k said:
There is a thanks button *just* a wee bit up the page
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I swear there was something like thanks button on posts, but since yesterday the forum seems to change to a different theme. Not sure what happened, but thanks button or whatever it was on posts seems to be missing?
Even more curiousing it seems that image attachments are resized
While reading the conspiracy theories, defects, issues (you know the ones that you never knew you had an issue until someone else told you theirs) threads..
I got to wanting to know how many of the "hard to open" box owners have had any issues with their units.
I realized my original hard to open box unit had double/ retaped seal.
Might they have taken a few of the units out and done something to them prior to shipping. Perhaps a last min fix (not a firmware update, as my unit got them after I opened it) or was that just to stick the FCC sticker on?
-CC
What do you define as a "hard to open box"?
just lou said:
What do you define as a "hard to open box"?
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This; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775785&highlight=hard+unbox
There are more threads about having a hard time opening it, suggesting to use a blender, sledgehammer, microwave or little sister to get it open. Not coming up on searches atm tho...
Interesting. :laugh: I can't say I had a "hard to open box" then.
Mine had 4 stickers on it .. one on each side of the box. After about 10 minutes of use ... my digitizer goes crazy and will not register in spots.
Mine wasn't exactly a slide-out easy open but it wasn't all that hard. I have no issues with mine.
Mine was exceptionally difficult to open, no issues with my unit.
Ah, that could be it? Makes sense.
Mine had been double taped back up, and left on to run down, so perhaps the screws had been tightened and they'd turned it on to test, without powering off.
Good theory.
With a box cutter I had my N7 out of the box in about 30 seconds.
Do people no longer use sharp objects to open boxes any more?
The box was most likely opened to add your account.
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Mine was opened, no screen problems though
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I find it hilarious people are basing quality of hardware on how hard it is to open a box.
For the record my box was low to medium hard to open and my nexus 7 is awesome.
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It's all about the technique. Most people will squeeze the sides causing a suction making it difficult to open. The people with technique slightly pull out all four sides to loosen top cover, lift under the opposing corners of top cover and shake out the bottom. No problem getting it opened and got a perfect first unit. Second unit from B&H in transit.
Mine was ridiculously hard to push out, I slid a v v thin bread knife down all the sides, not much help, much application of even pressure got a tiny bit of movement enabling me to pinch the rim of the sleeve then mm by mm 1 edge at a time I got movement then it slid off, I've thoroughly inspected the device NO sign of any of the common issues and a very happy consumer.
Just for more emphasis the sleeve was on TIGHT, my collar is blue and my arms are strong but this was so tight I was concerned that tightness might cause damage.
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The box was most likely opened to add your account.
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Add my account? How'd the store know I was gonna buy that unit at that store to put in my account without knowing the details?
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I find it hilarious people are basing quality of hardware on how hard it is to open a box.
For the record my box was low to medium hard to open and my nexus 7 is awesome.
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The question is it perhaps those with the harder to open boxes was because of the retaping to reseal a unit that may have been fixed last minute after the fact?
Once I got mine out I realized the tape glue and additional unintended to the design thickness of the added tape caused it to stick to the sleeve.
My second unit slid out almost by itself. It too had double tape but it seems the gamestop employees had already slid the sleeve off before. The inner box had smege on it, the sleeve was less than pristine, as my original unit.
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Add my account? How'd the store know I was gonna buy that unit at that store to put in my account without knowing the details?
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That is a good question. But mine was very difficult to open, I was surprised by it.
When I turned it on, it had my email and name there, I only had to enter my password.
Somehow it knew that unit was for my account.
My box wasn't hard to open at all. Yes the tapes were sturdy and can't be easily "cut" with your finger nails but it didn't stand a chance against my key. I opened my box in less than 30 seconds. Not sure what all the fuss is about.
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That is a good question. But mine was very difficult to open, I was surprised by it.
When I turned it on, it had my email and name there, I only had to enter my password.
Somehow it knew that unit was for my account.
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If you ordered from Google Play, there was an option to add your Google account before shipping.
The outer sleeve on mine was extremely tight, tight, tight! But the box itself was a breeze. A perfect unit inside. Loving it.
Idk if this has already been pointed out or not... On the back of the Note 2, the part of the back cover that covers the speaker is brought outward. I'm assuming this was so you could add keychain accessories. I just put a keychain on mine and it doesn't harm the speaker at all. Anyway, just thought it might be an interesting find. Hopefully somebody can get something out of this post! Cheers!
-Ken
That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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Agreed. Its there to raise the back from any surface in order to let the sound out.
Lol imagine key chain or strap there and Note 2 back cover is coming of whilst u hold the strap and phone is plummiting to the concrete floor face down OUCH ..
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That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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If I had a case on my phone would it make much of a difference? It seems pretty sturdy with the case on my phone.
I wonder if this guys for real...
UtkarshGupta said:
That is meant to let the sound out.
Don't put key chain there.
You might break it.
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I wonder if this guys for real...
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I just got this phone yesterday... I was really hoping that it was a spot for keychains because I have one that my girlfriend gave me. Yeah, I'm serious. I guess it was just wishful thinking.
I do use it for a wrist strap and have shaken it quite a lot just holding the strap and I do not believe the back will come off due to the weight of the phone as the back stays on very well.
i dont prefer you deal with that hole..... as thats not designed to hold something,
it might pull out the whole back cover and if so, yr battery will drop too
haha
i think it's okay, if its not heavy . and always becareful when taking out your phone from pocket..
If you get the protection+ (search google) cover from Samsung it has on the upper left corner the holes for the accessories you want to attach.
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If you get the protection+ (search google) cover from Samsung it has on the upper left corner the holes for the accessories you want to attach.
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Note 2 - wrist tether strap
I've been thinking about registering for a couple of months on here just so I could let people know about this very idea. Odd that it turned out to be on the front page on the same day.
As far as those of you are concerned about this ruining the speaker sound quality or breaking the cover or pulling the back off of the phone, so far it hasn't been an issue for me. I have been using it ever since I purchased one of the TrustFire XML C8-T6 5-Mode CREE LED 1000 Lumen Flashlights (or maybe it was the Ultrafire Wf-502b, I can't remember).
The good thing about having the phone tethered to the wrist like this is that I don't have to worry about putting a case on it to keep it safe. Pretty much the only time I have dropped any of my phones has been while actively using it, especially on this phone due to the necessity of stretching my fingers across the screen to hit the upper left hand corner. Now that I have this, it doesn't matter how awkwardly I balance it, I don't have to worry about dropping it. Now I slip the phone in top first into my pocket and then I pull my hand out of the tether as it enters my pocket and then I leave some of the loop hanging out of my pocket so when I try to get at it later, i can slip my fingers through as I pull it out and slide it onto my wrist. Now, whenever it leaves my pocket, it is securely attached to my hand. This makes it faster and easier to get to it in my pocket when I have several other things in there as well. I also have my mother using it and it makes it easy to put the phone in here purse and leave the tail of the band hanging out so that she isn't rummaging through the thousands of things in her clown car of a purse.
I thought about getting one of those fly grips or whatever they are called that you place your middle and ring finder through and secures the phone to your hand. While that is almost assuredly a more efficient and ergonomic grip, I prefer to have my phone without out any extra added weight/thickness unless it makes it vastly superior for certain uses (such as a 6200 mAh battery that would last for international flights etc). Otherwise, I just have a Spigen screen protector and the wrist strap. I don't really care much about scratching the back since the replacements will soon be cheap enough not to matter to most people.
edit: although one can obviously jerk it away hard enough to pull the cover off, I've never had it happen and only while swinging it around and jerking it back to my abruptly to test to see how well it would hold, it only pulled two of the tabs loose and it was still securely attached. As far as breaking the grille itself somehow, as long as you aren't putting a metal ring through it, it should be plenty strong enough for the most demanding everyday usage. I've seen youtube videos bend some previous samsung cases in half without snapping, so I am assuming it would be sufficient for most people. your mileage may vary, especially if your back cover doesn't seem to fit as tightly as other peoples.