People want summaries of the Android builds, so here we go:
1. For the most stable builds, pick the ones which are simpy Froyo 2.2 based, or based on the cyanogen mod (CM6) without sense, and are usually based on builds for the Google Nexus.
2. Then you have froyo + sense. now there are different versions of sense out there and froyo. you have the 'supersonic' over the air update which made it 2.2.1 versus the original 2.2. FRG** and FRF** denote different versions of android core.
Following that you have all the ones which are (usually) based on 2.2.1 android....BUT...the magical sauce is in the sense build they use. Unlike WM with 2018 and 2016 etc for sense we now have a few variants as defined by the phone they run on:
2a) Desire
2b) Evo (sense build: 3.29.651.5)
2c) Desire HD roms (sense build: 1.24.405.1)
2d) Desire Z (1.22.405.1)
2e) Lexicon ()
Lexicon seems to be a quick sense build, BUT things like compass and gsensor and camera dont seem to work.
Desire Z seems to be visually nicer, almost as nippy, much newer....but the font sizes are not optimised for the HD2 - the PPI is too low and fonts bigger - i.e. you see less on the screen at the time. same gsensor, camera and compass issues as above.
Desire HD builds are the biggest resource hogs...but nevertheless remain fast if you have a taskkiller and are visually the most stunning. same gsensor and compass and camera issues as above. Having used this more extensively I can also confirm that I get data disconnects (which plague all recent builds), but the HTC reader does not work, and the HTC locations/latitude does not work fully. HTC hub etc works fine tho.
Evo - more stable and more fully featured than any of the above, but not quite as quick nor as pretty. also font scaling not as good as on Desire HD rom. Data disconnects still on this build. Has voice activiation/dialing with long send key.
Desire - the oldest set of builds - or was it HTC ACE/bravo??/ I can't quite remember. very stable, but not very quick. I think this came with voice dialing activated with long send key.
I am using the Desire HD based mdeejay ROM 24/7 now. seems very good. I don't like the gmail email app tho...fortunately I dont need the camera. I get no music stuttering. BT works perfectly (stereo+mono), as does GPS. Voice search/commands work when you launch the app, but it does not seem to be triggered by a long send...can't remember if voice command works triggered from BT headset.
It does use more battery than WM - I barely get two days solid use whereas I used to get a solid 3 on WM only. I have installed setcpu and run it quite aggressively with my own settings to really get the most out of the battery. Without setcpu mdeejay's desire HD build would often run at 1138Mhz constantly.....
Also remember that not only do the builds differ in terms of Android build, and sense build (if included), but often come with different kernels - such as by hastarin, michyprima and the more stock ones based on the zimage database maintained by the htc-linux team. The kernel will usually determine what works and what doesn't.
Hope this helps.
Setcpu settings r same for rach build. Or u use different
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I run it much more aggressively than set in most builds. I use the conservative and powersave clock governor settings and have it staged at different battery %ages and whether the screen is on or off to adjust the min and max cpu speeds.
Nice summary man, thanks!
@chris_ah1
AWESOME!! This post is much appreciated! I am sure that this is the information many users were looking for and hopefully are willing to join this project!!
again: GREAT JOB!
chris_ah1 said:
People want summaries of the Android builds, so here we go:
1. For the most stable builds, pick the ones which are simpy Froyo 2.2 based, or based on the cyanogen mod (CM6) without sense, and are usually based on builds for the Google Nexus.
2. Then you have froyo + sense. now there are different versions of sense out there and froyo. you have the 'supersonic' over the air update which made it 2.2.1 versus the original 2.2. FRG** and FRF** denote different versions of android core.
Following that you have all the ones which are (usually) based on 2.2.1 android....BUT...the magical sauce is in the sense build they use. Unlike WM with 2018 and 2016 etc for sense we now have a few variants as defined by the phone they run on:
2a) Desire
2b) Evo (sense build: 3.29.651.5)
2c) Desire HD roms (sense build: 1.24.405.1)
2d) Desire Z (1.22.405.1)
2e) Lexicon ()
Lexicon seems to be a quick sense build, BUT things like compass and gsensor and camera dont seem to work.
Desire Z seems to be visually nicer, almost as nippy, much newer....but the font sizes are not optimised for the HD2 - the PPI is too low and fonts bigger - i.e. you see less on the screen at the time. same gsensor, camera and compass issues as above.
Desire HD builds are the biggest resource hogs...but nevertheless remain fast if you have a taskkiller and are visually the most stunning. same gsensor and compass and camera issues as above. Having used this more extensively I can also confirm that I get data disconnects (which plague all recent builds), but the HTC reader does not work, and the HTC locations/latitude does not work fully. HTC hub etc works fine tho.
Evo - more stable and more fully featured than any of the above, but not quite as quick nor as pretty. also font scaling not as good as on Desire HD rom. Data disconnects still on this build. Has voice activiation/dialing with long send key.
Desire - the oldest set of builds - or was it HTC ACE/bravo??/ I can't quite remember. very stable, but not very quick. I think this came with voice dialing activated with long send key.
I am using the Desire HD based mdeejay ROM 24/7 now. seems very good. I don't like the gmail email app tho...fortunately I dont need the camera. I get no music stuttering. BT works perfectly (stereo+mono), as does GPS. Voice search/commands work when you launch the app, but it does not seem to be triggered by a long send...can't remember if voice command works triggered from BT headset.
It does use more battery than WM - I barely get two days solid use whereas I used to get a solid 3 on WM only. I have installed setcpu and run it quite aggressively.
Also remember that not only do the builds differ in terms of Android build, and sense build (if included), but often come with different kernels - such as by hastarin, michyprima and the more stock ones based on the zimage database maintained by the htc-linux team. The kernel will usually determine what works and what doesn't.
Hope this helps.
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Simply put: KERNEL is a model, different designer put different clothes on her, its still her.
We have two models, Nexus one base, and Evo base model
thanks for this summary!!! it is really helpfull info you provided here.
I will try mdeejay Desire HD build. Currently I have Darkstone Froyo Stone 3.1, but battery life is horrible for me. Even with Set Cpu, Task Killer and JuiceDefender I can't make a day... and I barely use my device during a day...
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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jgunna405 said:
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I'm not sure about yahoo mail, but everything else works on shubcraft
Thanks chris_ah1, nice breakdown of the builds. Simple and informative. Any volunteers to do the same for kernels? That'd be awesome!
anap40 said:
I'm not sure about yahoo mail, but everything else works on shubcraft
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Shubcraft? I'll check it out and report back. Thanks.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I want it to have Sense as well.
thanks a lot for this info!
Now this is clear, I hope the devs will kinda keep us informed about which version they're using
As I'm having serious battery issues (using setcpu and all) I'll try Froyo 2.2 or cyanogen mod.
Too bad there hasn't been an update to those builds lately
android.hd2roms.com !
jgunna405 said:
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Take a look at the Core Droid build! Very nice build with good batterylife (out of the box), great stability, almost fully working and sexy looks. Tried various sense builds, but this one i really recommend at the moment.
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you rock!
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android.hd2roms.com !
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genius, thankyou! its so much easier to take in. love it. its absolutely fantastic!
Thank You
thank you very much this a very informative and useful post
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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-what do you mean by yahoomail linkability? I'm curious cause I'm only using yahoomail app for android.
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tnx for this handy overview
Please stick this. It finally answered my question about what is the difference between desire, desire hd, desire z and other base of roms. I was prepared to post a topic when I stumbled upon this.
Great guide.
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15th November 2010 -Welcome to phireMOD Vision!
Based off official RUU 1.34.405.5
I will not be updating this build any longer. Please use phireMOD Ace linked in my signature if you wish to use the newest sense on your HD2. Thanks to everyone for your support!
What’s the difference between this and SkinnyEVO?
HTC Vision (or Desire Z) has many visual changes over the Evo sense roms. A few of the differences you’ll notice are flipping animations with the clock, fading transitions between programs, and the ability to apply skins (themes) to your phone from right inside of Sense. There are many other minor graphical changes, and a few functional ones such as “Recent Apps” showing in your notification bar.
This build is multilanguage.
What doesn’t work
Ereader
Camera/Camcorder
Live Wallpapers
Navigation is glitchy
Install Notes
You may encounter odd flickering of the boot animation and then a black screen. If this is the case, just wait longer, it is still booting.
Please change to a static wallpaper first thing!
Huge thanks to
football for the ROM
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hastarin
mdeejay
Downloads
phireMOD Vision v1.0
I am not asking for donations, however I have added the option of you feel so inclined. Thanks
Changelog
v1.0
First release!
Based off latest offical RUU 1.34.405.5
Removed bloatware
Kernel: hastarin r8.2
Includes 512MB data.img
Includes File Manager
Includes Superuser
If someone is willing to post a mirror/torrent, I will post it in the OP.
sense
love the new desire-hd and desire-z builds, not enough of them here i think..
just a question- does this build sync with htcsense.com or not ?
great to see another new generation sense build
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Great to have up-to-date Desire Z/HD build.
Does anyone know if any dev's working on camera? I've seen some active work few weeks ago, but not recently.
I do like the release, but the fact is the ereader and navigation problem, make me wait for an othe release, but your work is appreciated as i'm big fan of hastarin kernel
Great job on this man, always good to see more Z and HD ROM's.
terminal 7 said:
love the new desire-hd and desire-z builds, not enough of them here i think..
just a question- does this build sync with htcsense.com or not ?
great to see another new generation sense build
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I didn't get a chance to test that.. So I'd appreciate some feedback
Thanks for the build/share. I would also like to see more of these roms posted around here. Did a quick search and did not find any others besides yours. Then again, forum searches have not always been my friend
update:
build does sync with htcsenseDOTcom. Ask for your information/register account at the android phone setup.
Thanks Phire for this rom. I am currently using your beautiful themed Evo 1.7 rom. I am so happy to see that you have now cooked a Desire HD/Z rom. I know when the HD/Z rom is fully functional I will be moving to use it as my daily rom in place of the evo rom. And certainly I will be sticking with your roms. I am really looking forward to the fix for the htc eReader and the the camera. I love the htc reader so much so that i keep on booting to windows whenever am reading books instead of using the readers availabel in android market.
I have a personal request. Is it possible sir to cook a themed HD Desire rom similar to the themed Evo 1.7. I so much love the themed evo rom such that stock sense looks like something the cat dragged in......
By the way boss is it possible to install the theme separately or it must be cooked into the rom? I have in mind something like the GTX theme for winmo which can be installed as a cab.....
phiredrop,
I am using your great EVO1.7. Do you will continue update that serials?
Jackie
this thing is legit!
Had some trouble at first (Device wouldn't wake up, and some lag), but changed kernel to MDJ's S4 and now works great!
Geo_Ros said:
Had some trouble at first (Device wouldn't wake up, and some lag), but changed kernel to MDJ's S4 and now works great!
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+1
I also changed the Kernel to Hastarin 8.2UVOC and setCPU to "on demand" and now it works very well and fast.
So far I found two little bugs, not clear where they came from:
- On home screen, after wake-up, something is flickering, i guess it's the weather animation, but it's not quite visible
- A transparent bar appeared at the bottom of the home screen(and other screens), when I started playing music.
The camera is not working right?
No the camera is not working yet. When it is- you will hear a lot of happy yelling al over the xda community
Love the new sence but my own experience tells me that these roms are not as fast and smooth as mdj's eVo builds etc.. on the other hand: will keep an eye on this one more feedbacks!
Keep up the good work!
Nice build. So far seems to work just fine. It`s great to see that HD build is not ded Thanks a lot!
Great job! Thanks a lot of your effort!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I am glad to see that someone has started developing this rom again. Most of the older projects are dead. Hopefully we will get a working camera at some point. Thanks for taking on this project!
THanks again mate
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
I love to know this too. I want stable and not care much of nice animation. i think you will get different answer because i don't think anyone know what the best out there. You will have to try different one to see which one work for you best. Every single one out there will the different issue you might run into? The good thing are alot of developer actively working on these rom for FREE. That really nice of them. I really appreciate all the hard work.
The common response to this question is that it's really about personal preference at this point. There may be some small features not working in each build but I can't say that any of them have any particular major flaws unless it's a "work in progress" build like Gingerbread MyTouch4G or whatever. I recommend bookmarking this http://android.hd2roms.com/ and get a better idea of the different Roms and see which are staying updated or w/e. I like to have 2 types of Roms, a Stock-like or Cyanogen-based and a Sense-themed. Of these types, I have found the following to be particularly good for me:
- Cyanogen-based: HD2ONE (all though he is not developing any longer, this one should be solid for a long time.. my personal favorite) - JDMS (could easily replace HD2ONE for me if JDMS stays in the game and keeps new Cyanogen builds rotating in and doing the testing\tweaking for us)
- Sense-themed: MDJ Froyo HD (I'm most impressed with MDJ's commitment to keeping his roms up to date. Sense based are often bulky so I have to overclock them a tad but MDJ compensates by undervolting nicely)
- Stock-like: Darkstone SuperRam (I may be biased for Darkstone's builds but this one loads super quick) - NexusHD2 (Solid and Slick... nothing wrong with this one)
- Experimental: MDJ Gingerbread (Really looking forward to the last couple things to get ironed out on this build)
So yeah, there are 6 right there that I use. Which one I use the most is kinda hard to say. I currently bounce between HD2ONE and MDJ FroyoHD. I use Excellar boot loader and just customize my Rom names and just reboot in each and play/test them all for speed/stability/functionality at my leisure. I just load up my card like this and figure out what works for me the most:
/HD2ONE
/MDJFroyoHD
/SuperRAM
/JDMS
/NexusHD2
Bottom-Line... all of them are excellent, have fun and try each on. And don't be afraid to try something new. A lot of new guys are trying to get their stuff out there for us and need testers and feedback to help them perfect it. Sorry for being long winded, there really is no simple answer. They are all good!
For me its MDJ Revolution HD v.1.2 with hastarin 8.6 kernel
Its apsolutly fast, stable and good looking. I have tried almoust all versions and this one is definitly winner for me.
I vote for option A - Try them all and see which one you like best.
Mdeejay Sense Clean 2.3 build as posted in Mdeejay thread by Hastarin. It has Hastarin kernel 8.53b included but you can update to 8.6. It's totally stable and I haven't found anything to replace it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Android
SupeRam by darkstone, top notch
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
HD2ONE is the best for me. Smooth Quick & Stable for everyday use. Also installing Luncher Pro from market place makes it unbelievably smooth.
which rom do you use with hd2one? chucky or ozdroid or energy? i want to have a wm rom that is very lite and starts android automatically
mdjee jay evo sense revolution
pone- htc hd2 leo
android version- 2.2
kernel version- 2.6.32.15r7
build no- mdjee jay evo sense revolution
dis si the best
fast
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
Evil_enc said:
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
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The Nexus build from TyTung is the most stable and there is nothing "not" working...check it out.
MCCM's builds are perfect. Everything works and they are fast without overclooking. I get 1662 on quadrant with stock CPU settings. with his builds. I'm using his Desire HD build.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App
Also, they are rock solid stable and battery draws 5 - 7 mA in standby.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App
ttibbetts83 said:
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
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but it doesnt work for me for calling.no sound when i call soneone.but music plsys fine.
Nexus build by TyTung, it is very smooth & stable, with very low battery consumption
i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
Any build can be as good as you want if you know what to do. For me, I simply like sense builds. I have mdj 1.7 as main but I am currently testing moto my touch 4g and dandiest desire z.
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dan138zig said:
i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
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There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
deadmansink said:
There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
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my gps was already off.
sorry but i can't find your post in your signature. do you mind showing it?
Custom ROM for the Desire Z Bell NAM phone? Please post you opinions if you have used a custom ROM with the Bell Desire Z and have had a good or bad experience. I ask this because the Bell and C2 threads are intertwined for the most part but there has to be subtle and not so subtle differences due to carriers, services, etc.
Most of the customs ROMs are built around T-Mobile G2 platform.........sooo any recomends for the Bell platform specifically? I read a whole bunch but the ROM threads are seriously long, lol, and I may have missed a few things that may be missing for specific providers.
Use the latest Virtuous ROM and kernel. They run flawlessly on my Desire Z from Bell (on the Rogers network). I use the Sense version for the social phonebook functionality and other functions. The Vanilla version is great if you want stock Android, but you miss the awesome Sense widgets which I believe creates an amazing Android experience.
I'm currently running CM 6.1.1 on a Bell DZ (although i'm unlocked and on Telus) and haven't had any issues. GPS works, WiFi works, haven't tried Bluetooth yet however. Everything runs smoothly and I got a cool new boot animation as well
bongd said:
Use the latest Virtuous ROM and kernel. They run flawlessly on my Desire Z from Bell (on the Rogers network). I use the Sense version for the social phonebook functionality and other functions. The Vanilla version is great if you want stock Android, but you miss the awesome Sense widgets which I believe creates an amazing Android experience.
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Yes. I second this. It runs very well "out of the box" and the latest (0.9.0) version the "default" (not "advanced") flavour is comfortably overclocked to ~1GHz when running tasks and underclocked when screen is off so it has great battery life too.
I've been using it as my daily driver. I, too, like the Sense integration of social networks and contacts. This is a really great communications device with this ROM.
MIUI , no questions
I've used Virtuous and it is one of the best I've tried. It doesn't have many new things, since the DZ already has Sense, but it's still a really nice ROM.
From my experiences, cm 6.1.1, virtuous 0.9.0 and MIUI are all reliable enough to use daily, and dangit! you couldn't ask for 3 more diverse choices.
Give each one a try, set them up how ya like em, do nandroids of each, then restore a different one every couple of days and just settle into one.
I prefer Virtuous because I personally dig Sense...But MIUI with laucher pro is sick and slick. Then again, CM6 has to be the most popular custom ROM out there...for good reason!
I guess you'll just have to try em all!
Oh yeah, I used gingervillain for a day. Think it has a little bit of work before it's a daily rom, but yeah, that'll be great when cm7/gingervillain get all sorted out.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Thanks guys.....will give the Virtuous first try.
I've used stock, the Euro WWE, CM6, Virtuous 0.8.1, MIUI, and CM7 nightly #11.
My feelings towards them all:
Stock - Overloaded with crap. Slow. Takes forever to boot (excluding the fast boot, ie Sleep mode).
Euro WWE - Same as stock w/o the extra apps
CM6 - I did not like this AT ALL. It also ate my battery. Cool boot video though.
Virtuous 0.8.1 - I liked this one quite a bit but there was an annoying bug with the trackball wake and I was almost never being notified of new emails. I used this on 3 desire z's with the same results. I recommend Virtuous if you are into Sense. It's not too different than stock, though.
MIUI - This one opened my eyes and I really wanted to stick with it, but it had a ton of issues for me. The lockscreen kept disappearing and Wifi would not stay on after reboots. The trackball wake option would not turn off after turning it on the first time. Things like that made me weary of this ROM. I tried an early version and also a later one from the beginning of Jan. I don't see anyone else complaining of those specific issues, though, so it may have just been me.
CM7 nightly #11 - This one is my new favorite by far. I really like gingerbread and this ROM is very lean and mean. Between trying MIUI and CM7 I have ditched Sense completely. It's so much more of a 'cleaner', 'pure' experience without Sense. There's less clutter, things just seem simpler, there's less crap that I don't use (browsing facebook stuff through contact list, etc.) The stock dialer is so much better since the contact list is just on another tab, instead of another app completely, and it has a favorite contacts tab (which also automatically adds frequently called people to the list).
I would definitely recommend trying a non-sense based ROM such as MIUI or CM7. They both have better dialers, contact lists, and SMS apps (the HTC one has bugs). They are both leaner and simpler. HTC menus are packed with way too many options, even just adding items to homescreens is overkill. There are some nice things such as the way you set the time on alarms in Sense, and the HTC hub (some nice ringtone sets in there), but not I don't miss much else. CM7 and MIUI both come with a lot of great rings as well. One of the things I liked most about Sense (the 'people' app) is now one of the things I dislike the most. I miss the Sense camera a lot, I am hoping someone can port that over to non-sense ROMs eventually. However the stock Gallery app is much better than the HTC gallery. Another reason not to use Sense is because certain things such as bluetooth are slightly crippled (can't use Wii-mote), and Samba wifi sharing has issues on sense too. Who knows what else. I found HTC sense syncing also brought my phone to a crawl at least once each day.
Hope that helps you in your journey!
I use a DZ on Bell and I would recommend updating the radio to the latest version as I had constant connection problems with reception for calling/data after using custom roms.
I'm currently using GingerVillian and its working great, very smooth and no lag. No major issues so far and I haven't had any fc's. The only issue so far is that I don't get voicemail notifications (not sure if its the rom or Bell). Also, keep in mind that this rom does not have Sense (I like sense, but I'm willing to use a rom without it so I can try out Gingerbread).
RiTZiE
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Virtuous 0.9.0 works great with me. A lot of issues cleaned up since 0.8 Modified stock kernel is plenty fast and has no bugs. Everything just works. If you want to OC, use the virtuous kernels; I noticed a few bugs with the other.
In my personal opinion MIUI was great, but I found it slower and less consistent than virtuous.
Gingervillain was also really nice.
Last time I used a cm7 nightly, it was obvious that it was still a work in progress...
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Im running gingervillain 1.5 on my NAM and I absolutely love it. Its smooth, no lag, pretty much perfectly stable.
Currently testing the Virtuous 0.9.0 Sense ROM with the advanced kernel and quite happy with it so far, 3 days now no issues at all. Stable and smooth.
Will back up in a few days and test the MIUI, Cryo and Ginger as well, may as well........
Tried out the GingerVillian 1.5 & wow!!! Really smooth ROM & works perfectly with NAM Bell! Will keep this baby for a while!
cmccollough said:
Im running gingervillain 1.5 on my NAM and I absolutely love it. Its smooth, no lag, pretty much perfectly stable.
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HTC Vision Baby
Still using GV 1.5 and will not change it for quite a bit. Every thing works beautifully with Bell.
HTC Vision Baby
Hell yea it is lol. Can't wait til 2.0 comes out that thing is gonna be vicious..
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Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
Anybody?...
For one, the rom is so big because it's a sense rom. Track pad wake works out the gate. Theres no home replacement that you can use sense widgets with
Marine6680 said:
Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
Depends on your personal hardware. I run mine at 1.8 on the smaetass kernel with no problems, but some can't do that.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
Stocks (and widget), myfaves (and Widgets), twitter widget, flicker, and a few others.
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
It is huge compared to an aosp rom like was on the Nexus, but that's because of all the stuff added with HTC sense.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
No, sadly there isn't. The sense Widgets are so deeply integrated with the rest of the launcher that such is not possible. However, it is possible to find some Widgets that do similar things.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
That was on stock as well, and most custom roms will incorporate this highly popular feature.
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Well, the best thing I can say on this is to not expect it to be like aosp. That's the point of being sense, its unique in its look. It just wont always be the fastest on the block.
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
Not really sure how to answer this question, really. Grankin has a few good kernels for iced glacier that can bring the speed up to 1.7 Guzman, and the smartass governor built into dumfuq's kernel (built for cm, but has since been modded to be compatible with sense roms like iced) enables it to get better speed and battery life.
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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jmwils3 said:
Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
Marine6680 said:
Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
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Yeah, but speaking as a user of said kernel (albeit on cm7), it's worth it.
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EDIT: also, I dont think I mentioned this previously, but the default setup for the cm6 kernel will break wi-fi on sense ROMs, so be sure to set up the wi-fi fix that he added today.
I am currently on ice glacier also but I really like eVil's Desire ROMs. there's a Z and HD flavor. they are more full on stock sense experience than iced which is a more/less clone of espresso.
I personally prefer the stock sense to espresso...there's more HTC Widgets and some other cool stuff. I also really like the trackpad unlock in addition to wake which is built in on those as well. the only thing I REALLY miss on those ROMs is the espresso dialer which has the built in VIP calls (allows a VIP contact to ring even with ringer / sound off).
I haven't tried gorillas DHD sense port yet but prob will in a couple days.
and before you ask - the difference between the Z and HD ROMs is Z has a landscape rotating home screen and larger fonts by default and HD doesnt have the homescreen rotation and has a smaller font. they're about identical as far as I can tell aside from that. I had no real problems on 0.2.x versions of Z and HD but eVil just released 0.3 and it seems a couple ppl are complaining of a quirk here and there..btw both of those eVil ROMs have a 1.49ghz kernel with built in smartass scaling which I really like.
I'm currently oc'ed to 1.2 max on iced 1.1.6 to try and maximize battery.
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I NEED to find the best ROM out there for the G2/Desire Z! let me know what you think it is!!
-Post what rom it is.. INCLUDING Build Number
-Explain why it is the best!
-Post a screenshot of your favorite screen i.e wallpaper..favorite widget etc..
If you could, let me know how good battery life is and stability!
-Looking for an everyday rom.. if possible
-Thanks!
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
I enjoy Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 because I find it to be consistently fast and responsive, everything works for me all the time, and I still have enough ram to run a couple of apps in the background, unlike every sense 3.0 rom/hybrid I've tried.
Highly highly recommended.
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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LMFAO.
Cyanogen MOD 7 RC 1 or if your so inclined, nightly build #156.
- So far after testing a few ROM I've been back to CM7. Why? Once installed and running and even with keep all my favourite apps open and running in the background, I still manage to keep about 80mb of ram and CPU usage is usually between 2% and 82% with an average of 4 or 5 programs running. Ok a bit excessive I know but it still works.
I have custom memory script running that's available here on XDA and various other gadget. Battery life is usually fairly consistent with 1day 9hours of use. I use the device quite a bit in a day.
Power saving options: Brightness is set to 20% only, Juice Defender installed.
Running background application is limited to my email mostly unless I'm doing some work. Most of the time email, exchange, Facebook and twitter are sync.
I'm using Launcher Pro with the license for my main interface. Here are some screen captures for your pleasure.
aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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...like, donut, dude? You are my hero
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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How would I go about doing that??
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DroidCell said:
How would I go about doing that??
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Too bad you're probably right. I would have been pumped if someone ported a G1 rom for the vision XD
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Personally, my favorite ROM is MIUI.us
The stock Music app in it, is my favorite music app by far, I especially love how it not only gets the lyrics, but also scrolls them karaoke style with the song. It also has a nice theming system, and a great built in theme. Everything overall looks nicer than stock Android.
Another great thing about it is the status bar, you can enable/disable USB Mass Storage using an on/off slider in the notifications, and I love the way the switches work in the status bar.
Then there's the stock Launcher, which is much nicer than the stock Android launcher in my opinion, though I still replace it with Go Launcher, again, my personal favorite.
If you're looking for a responsive, nice looking, and user friendly ROM, MIUI.us would be my suggestion. It also has a nice backup feature with their servers. You just need to make an MIUI account. Not sure if it's still necessary, but back when I did it, I had to go to the chinese MIUI website and use Google Translate to make my account <_<
sorgo said:
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
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Amen, Brotha
The best rom is hardest to define because it's really up to personally preference. MIUI? Sure if you're into that whole thing,but frankly I have trust issues with Chinese tech companies for reasons that have been in the news here and there.
Cyanogenmod is a great AOSP rom even though it's not 100% AOSP it's quick, intuitive, and has lots of options that would allow you to customize it as you want.
There are other roms such as OTA roms that have been made that are also very quick, but not quite as intuitive and they are not as easily customized as some other roms.
Now we get into Sense. There are ports of great roms from other devices that may have a minor bug here and there. Unity is a great rom but I know it needs work on it simply because of little bugs here and there, lack of ram of the Vision, and the battery drain of 1.31 is not so appealing. These roms do not perform as well as Sense roms made for the Desire Z, how ever you do not have some sense 3.0 features that make Sense so much more enjoyable to use.
I currently run Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 and it's a very quick rom, but it lacks the eye candy that we all would love with Unity. However what I love about the sense community is that there are many themes and many ways to enhance sense with add-ons here and there which I have done.
I want to clearly state that this is just my opinion and you should try out the roms for your self to get your own opinion and know your personal preference what appeals to one person is not always the same as the next.
Virtuous unity 1.31
Just test it , good for daily use
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Super cm7 is still my favorite. I keep trying other roms but I always come back to this one because it is super fast and clean. Mexdroid is pretty good to but it is too themed for me. I think they are working on a more stock version which could be pretty sweet.
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ChristianFS1 said:
Amen, Brotha
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Actually, I'm now running the "Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 :: Enhanced & Optimized Stock ROM (2.42.405.2)". I miss the Sense 3.0 features, but I can try to flash some available mods. Especially the brightness setting in the quick setting.
But it's a small tax for a stable ROM without restarts.