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Are you going to get the Nexus S or not POLL

So here it is, the Nexus S.
I think a lot of people are mad because the sites like engadget fueled mad rumors about the device and now people are like, meh!
Personally i expected to be like a GSG with some added bonuses.
So what would you do?
I have voted the #2

I feel burned by samsung with the GPS and magnetic compass problems on my Vibrant. I don't know if I will ever get a Samsung again. I had HTC phones for years and never had hardware problems. So I think I can safely say no to the new phone.
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greenstuffs said:
I think a lot of people are mad because the sites like engadget fueled mad rumors about the device and now people are like, meh
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Never expect the very best and you'll never be disappointed
I think of the Nexus-S as a good upgrade to the Nexus-1 and I am debating about buying it or not. The Nexus One is the best phone I've ever had and when Google closed down their webstore I thought there would never be another pure Google phone again so I figured I would keep the Nexus-1 for 4 to 5 years (its that good) until it stopped working...
But that damn SuperAMOLED and 4' screen is an evil temptress!!! Sigh decisions decisions

Shagman68 said:
I feel burned by samsung with the GPS and magnetic compass problems on my Vibrant. I don't know if I will ever get a Samsung again. I had HTC phones for years and never had hardware problems. So I think I can safely say no to the new phone.
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To tell the truth i have used the vibrant for a month after the N1, the Vibrant felt a better phone, sure the plastic build don't help but it is nicely build and the plastic used in the vibrant is from high grade, the molds used by samsung must have been very expensive as the parts were so precise, yes people don't notice that but its there. And overall the vibrant was a nice solid piece.
HTC phones are heavier sure a nice heft is nice but weight does not equal quality, I.E N1 had the ****tiest digitizer, the power button sucks big time. The G2 has hinges problems, the MT4G has the LCD lottery and the FFC being not centered. I don't know why people don't mention that when they say things about HTC. It seems like they only have praise for them. For the record HTC warranty isn't any better than samsung. You have to send the phone in and wait 3 weeks. The only good warranty experience i had with them is the warranty swap of Nexus One but that is the ONLY phone they have such a program.

Shagman68 said:
I feel burned by samsung with the GPS and magnetic compass problems on my Vibrant. I don't know if I will ever get a Samsung again. I had HTC phones for years and never had hardware problems. So I think I can safely say no to the new phone.
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HTC never had hardware problems? Are you forgetting about the huge multi-touch issues on the majority of their Android devices up until the latest ones? A much huger ****up than Samsung software screwups. GPS is flawless on my Vibrant running JK2 and JK6 froyo leaks. Was on JI6 2.1 leak as well.

I have found a buyer for my N1, selling my baby on Wednesday, waking up going to Tmobile and getting my new baby on Thursday
Shagman68 said:
I feel burned by samsung with the GPS and magnetic compass problems on my Vibrant. I don't know if I will ever get a Samsung again. I had HTC phones for years and never had hardware problems. So I think I can safely say no to the new phone.
Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.
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the N1 and the misaligned soft keys

slowz3r said:
I have found a buyer for my N1, selling my baby on Wednesday, waking up going to Tmobile and getting my new baby on Thursday
the N1 and the misaligned soft keys
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Don't you mean Best Buy? You won't see this at T-Mobile store

Anderdroid said:
Don't you mean Best Buy? You won't see this at T-Mobile store
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I dont know where i read that Tmobile would have it, and last time i walked into my Tmobile store they confirmed they would have it
but maybe im tired and seeing things, either way i dont mind a trip thursday morning to best buy

slowz3r said:
I have found a buyer for my N1, selling my baby on Wednesday, waking up going to Tmobile and getting my new baby on Thursday
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How much did you sell it for?

ap3604 said:
How much did you sell it for?
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$350
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slowz3r said:
$350
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Thanks slowz3r for the response
I was wondering about doing this option as well and it seems like $350 - 400 is the going rate on Craigslist atm...
Hrm is it worth the $350 (off N1 sale) + $220 out of pocket to upgrade to the Nexus-S?
Maybe I'll just wait the 4 - 5 months for a Nexus-S to go on Craigslist and scoop it up

If I buy the NS unlocked, can I use it with AT&T's sim? If yes then I'm so will be there.

MiteMouse said:
If I buy the NS unlocked, can I use it with AT&T's sim? If yes then I'm so will be there.
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Yes but you *may* not get 3g support. Only EDGE.

Shagman68 said:
I feel burned by samsung with the GPS and magnetic compass problems on my Vibrant. I don't know if I will ever get a Samsung again. I had HTC phones for years and never had hardware problems. So I think I can safely say no to the new phone.
Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.
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I replaced my first MT4G because of a dead pixel, now I found out that the second one has Inferior display after I did the comparison and the bottom of the phone creaks too. How many times do I have to try my luck now? I think I will give the NS a shot now.

ap3604 said:
Thanks slowz3r for the response
I was wondering about doing this option as well and it seems like $350 - 400 is the going rate on Craigslist atm...
Hrm is it worth the $350 (off N1 sale) + $220 out of pocket to upgrade to the Nexus-S?
Maybe I'll just wait the 4 - 5 months for a Nexus-S to go on Craigslist and scoop it up
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I figure it would cost around 220 to do it with a upgrade so i figure i would be paying the same thing anyways.

Business FAIL: Yes I WOULD order the phone the moment it goes live, BUT Best Buy doesn't want my money.

Shagman68 said:
I feel burned by samsung with the GPS and magnetic compass problems on my Vibrant. I don't know if I will ever get a Samsung again.
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But those were not hardware problems, they were software problems. Any software problems on the Nexus will be fixed by Google, because Google knows how to program.
Google makes great softare, Samsung doesn't. Samsung makes great hardware, though.

shrivelfig said:
But those were not hardware problems, they were software problems. Any software problems on the Nexus will be fixed by Google, because Google knows how to program.
Google makes great softare, Samsung doesn't. Samsung makes great hardware, though.
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Interesting, both of those issues are 100% software? absolutely nothing to do with hardware used?
You just blew my mind

Already got rid of my Galaxy S because I didn't like the plasticky build, not going to buy another one just because it says "Nexus" on it

bobbytomorow said:
Already got rid of my Galaxy S because I didn't like the plasticky build, not going to buy another one just because it says "Nexus" on it
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People dont buy this phone for the Nexus name, people buy this phone for the "pure android experience".....and the google and developer support.
I dont like the Galaxy S phones either because of how they feel but I will be picking this up
Its a matter of preference and to me support means more than being aesthetically pleasing

Advice Regarding Moving on From My Nexus One

I've had my Nexus One since April, and right now after seeing the new Nexus S (which is some-what disappointing in terms of upgraded hardware) I've decided it's time to move on. I'd like to sell before the Nexus S comes out since I believe the price of the Nexus One will decrease. I'm currently considering the following: G2, Nexus S, Captivate, Galaxy S i9000, and Mytouch 4G. The problem I'm having is deciding, see I would really love to have a front facing camera which would come in handy for me but, the phones that offer it don't work with AT&T 3G (except the i9000). So, I would like to get a captivate or i9000, but I'm not really fond of the i9000's design nor either's Touchwiz & Samsung's updates. I would really love a G2, since I could easily sell my Nexus and buy one with money to spare in some occasions and it's a very attractive device with great build quality (except for that hinge issue), but again, no AT&T 3G and no FFC. The Mytouch has the FFC, and is a nice phone and all but probably the ugliest thing EVER in my opinion. The Nexus S has everything I want (except for AT&T 3g) but, I would probably have to shell out $100-$200 to get it. So, what I need is advice. If you were in my situation, which would you choose? Thanks!

move to tmobile?

miketlo said:
move to tmobile?
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Still in a contract for another year :/

if i was in your situation i would not sell for a couple reasons
u will get STRESSED going back to edge. i mean its ridiculously slow coming for a 3g one
In a couple months they will be releasing some kick ass phones..wait patiently ..regardless the n1 is already depreciated
You will be trading one of the most customizables phones for some that you are not sure if it ll get the same support
IF you sign up for tmobile you buy one g2 and get 1 free (just got an email about that)

Nexus s is quad band so what's the deal?
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solidmac said:
Nexus s is quad band so what's the deal?
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Quad band GSM not HSPA
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I would suggest u either sell and wait some months with a dumb phone or sell later. Cuz no phone right now on the market is an upgrade

Zephyrs said:
I would really love a G2, since I could easily sell my Nexus and buy one with money to spare in some occasions and it's a very attractive device with great build quality (except for that hinge issue), but again, no AT&T 3G and no FFC
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Get a Desire Z from bell canada, unlock it, and that's your G2 with AT&T 3g support.

The one I am impatiently waiting for is the Motorola Olympus for at&t. They say q1 of 2011, which is just when my warranty is running out for the n1.

the nexus one is still one of the best phones currently out there. my opinion at least. i hope to keep this phone another year before i get another itch. til then i hope my N1 doesn't get any scratches.

I'm looking at the desire Z also for the next phone. I'd like the price to come a bit first though. I haven't found it for less than 650 yet.

Wait a month 2 c whats new in 2011...

Went from a Nexus to a G2 then back to a Nexus to make some extra cash to get rid of the keyboard.
Currently I traded my Nexus for a new Mytouch 4G.
It is a very fast phone, solid build, decent camera, and its 4G, not to mention it has some nice novelties like front facing camera and a hard button for the camera and 720p recording out of the box.
Alot of people complain about the UI but i havent seen much slowdown or problems with it. It's a pleasure to use and i have yet to remove the battery bc it froze.

I went from a Galaxy S to the N1.
The screen is definitely a BIG step up from the N1, both in responsiveness and quality.
The phone itself though, frustrating. Good hardware potentially but crippled by bad implementation. Out of the box they are laggy and unstable. The GPS is basically useless for anything other than telling you where you are at that point. Start moving about, and its gone. Then its the going into a coma for no apparent reason.
The N1 is probably just about a more dependable device. Not sure I'd go for the SGS over an N1.

I would try to get a dual core phone with vanilla android. So I recommend that you wait.

my advice is it sucks but you have to just wait for an ATT 3G version to come out. just wait for a nexus S with att 3g is your only choice. the nexus one is still awesome enough to ride it out for a bit longer.

RogerPodacter said:
my advice is it sucks but you have to just wait for an ATT 3G version to come out. just wait for a nexus S with att 3g is your only choice. the nexus one is still awesome enough to ride it out for a bit longer.
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Well, see im stuck in a dilemma. I can either a. sell my nexus one on eBay right now for $450 (offer I just got) and add $for a Nexus S OR b. wait it out. The only thing i'm afraid of is that the nexus's value goes down and when NS comes out everyones gonna be selling and their gonna be a dime a dozen....
SO, what do you guys think I should do? I have until tomorrow to decide to sell...

Personal finances are different for everyone. If U need the bread now for an upgrade, then sell at the best price.

I say wait it out. The Nexus one is going to get Gingerbread soon and the value wont depreciate as fast as you're afraid it will. In a couple of months it will be on a very small list of phones running Gingerbread and people will be willing to pay top dollar for it.
I'm in the same boat. I can upgrade right now but there's nothing on AT&T compelling enough to make me switch. Hopefully CES will give me something to look forward to. That LG Star is actually looking surprisingly good, as is the Olympus, and I definitely want Tegra2 on my next phone.
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if the Vibrant 4g...

Let's say a couple of months from now, the vibrant 4g comes out, do you think we can just change the antennas and all that other good stuff and just slap all that new junk into the old vibrant?? just wondering

Addel said:
Let's say a couple of months from now, the vibrant 4g comes out, do you think we can just change the antennas and all that other good stuff and just slap all that new junk into the old vibrant?? just wondering
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probably...but Samsung might be smarter that that....if we figured out that the vibrant was supposed to have a FFC...then they'll know that we could rip out those antennas and put em in our phones....then they'll lose money cuz no one but noobz will buy it.....just my opinion.

Not tryin to lmao....but if you had a 4g wouldn't you just keep it and throw out the old one?

well, it was worth a try since we jacked the ffc from the i9000 phone. then again, samsung will be smart about it... lol

The antenna is not what makes the 4g guys, wish it did. The phone we have right now can do 4g, we do not have the mimo modem software required for 4g. That is why we do not have 4 g I would guess once it is out we will figure how to clone the modem, but I bet they will tie the 4g to a ID number buried inside a ck-sum portion of the software. This will probably be the way they will control hacking And, that will take time to find this and hack into a usable patch BUT we can hope they are not that sophisticated.........

Anyone else actually considering the Vibrant 4G?

I'm a serial phone swapper , but I'd have to say that the Vibrant (all GPS issues, the plasticy feel about it and lack of Samsung updates aside) was one of my favorite Android phones.
I'm seriously considering picking up the Vibrant 4G when it comes out. I love the screen, the call quality , and signal strength that it had. If this 2nd edition of the Vibrant lives up to those qualities of the first, I have no worries about picking one up!
Anyone else considering getting one?

If it was time for me to update on my contract I probably would.
I absolutely love this phone! Thankfully I've had no issues with GPS and honestly it doesn't feel as solid as my old G1 made by HTC. I only have a cheapy silicone case on it that I literally got for $3 from Japan thru ebay, and I've dropped it a few times from around 2-3 feet and the phone didn't miss a beat.
So even tho it feels light and cheap it def holds up, even with just a cheap case.
And yes , Samsung is horrible with the updates, but we've also found that it is also TMO's fault as well.
But IDC bout updates, we have the greatest devs giving us ROM's that make my phone feel literally 10 times faster and smoother than my g/f's stock Nexus S!
Also, I got a front facing camera from a buddy for $20. So My phone will be exactly like the 4G, aside from the fact of the 4G speeds of course.

i really was thinking about getting it and actually got as far as almost completin gmy ebay listing to sell my current vibrant before the price drops....but then i looked up some more details about the 4g and found out that it only has 1gb internal memory. Also, since the devs currently have vibrants, and the vibrant 4g isnt ThaT MUCh of an upgrade, i think they will stick with the current vibrant. So then the dev community will not be that strong for the 4g. Agreed, its an easy port between the two phones, but I personally have no idea how to do it and im pretty sure that all devs will be busy porting 2.3 etc to the current vibrant to pay much attention to the vibrant 4g....so im not jumping ship just yet

no
maybe when my 3g speeds max out everywhere i go, t-mobile lifts the 5gb throttle limit, or i actually find a use for a FFC. until then, i'm fine with the original

Not with Pyramid around the corner.

I figure by the time that the Pyramid comes out I'll be shopping around again LOL

I rather get nexus s...
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I am actually considering it, first i will see how far i get with customer loyalty(because my gps never truly worked on any rom), we've been with tmobile since voicestream(Probably won't matter to them anyways). If customer loyalty is willing to send a vibrant 4G at a reasonable price i will get it, if not i will wait for dual core. Honestly unless another manufacturer comes out with a super amoled+ display i don't see myself leaving samsung. They suck with updates but xda pushes out way better roms than stock.

My wife works for Tmobile so I'll be getting it She gets 3 free phones a year...so yeah

I won't be spending money on it, but I will be calling the customer loyalty department and finagling a free Vibrant 4G out of them for pulling a shenanigan like this.

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Not with Pyramid around the corner.
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My thought exactly.
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If i didnt have the vibrant now i would, but im just gonna wait til the N2 comes out

Maybe this will change your minds..
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/02/t-mobile-wins-msnbc-speed-contest-with-samsung-galaxy-s-4g/
Nuff said..I'm getting one!!

Can't get over the 1GB of internal storage... so no. Plus, it's not much of an upgrade without dual cores.
However, I'll be keeping a close eye on that Galaxy S2. Here's to hoping it's 4G!

htc pyramid ftw!

Is the battery bigger and will it fit in my vibrant? If so I'm just buying that.
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en oh...
no

What happened to #neveragain?
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blackerwater said:
Is the battery bigger and will it fit in my vibrant? If so I'm just buying that.
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Yes It will fit in your vibrant
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Oxirane said:
Can't get over the 1GB of internal storage... so no. Plus, it's not much of an upgrade without dual cores.
However, I'll be keeping a close eye on that Galaxy S2. Here's to hoping it's 4G!
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It's not 1gb internal. It's 16gb and comes with 16 external micro SD card. U start with 32gb.
1gb is for apps. And I believe its like 1.8 not 1gb.
Same as ours. Only difference is the back cover, battery, ffc, and it supports 4g.
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Unlocked G2

Today I just got an unlocked G2 (a new rom needed to be flashed. It was stuck in a boot loop and they had no idea how easy it was to fix so traded my moto backflip and $25 for it)
I have AT&T. I'm running an miui rom and am really loving it. Plus I only like phones with a physical keyboard.
The only downside is I only have EDGE.
AT&T doesn't offer a high-end, dev friendly android phone with a physical keyboard.
My question is, is it worth having a 4G phone and only have EDGE?

I'm not sure if any phone is worth being stuck on edge.
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Lol trust me I know. The only thing saving me is my wifi.
It's just the only phone out with a physical keyboard is the flipout, and that's not really booming in the dev community.
Do I have any other options?

Ya a couple years back I was using an unlocked iphone on tmobile, obviously was stuck with just edge. It was RIGHT at the precipice before edge became the mobile equivelant of dialup. I don't think there is any way in hell your gonna have a decent experience with just edge. Just take the huge profit you just made and flip it on craigslist for an Att phone.
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That sucks. You need to get a Desire Z version A7275. It is compatible with AT&T 3G bands. It is also known as the Bell unlocked version.
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I looked at the bell version and I don't have $400 for it, if I did I would go with that option.
I would just trade it for an att phone but I need a physical keyboard. (always had a keyboard on every phone to date starting with my sidekick 08)
I was looking toward the captivate but, I saw the a captivate with a custom rom vs a stock g2 in benchmarks, and the captivate wasn't ahead by much.
I'm stuck ):

search in the market place here on xda or make a thread looking to trade a g2 for an 850mhz desire z, maybe someones in the same situation as you

nonione said:
search in the market place here on xda or make a thread looking to trade a g2 for an 850mhz desire z, maybe someones in the same situation as you
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Very smart! Thanks!

Unless you can get a trade for 850mhz DZ I don't think you're going to want to stick with it. You're printing money at this point getting the G2 so cheap so might as well try to get a trade up for a phone you can use 3G on. EDGE Is so painful.
Sounds like you wanted the keyboard, but if you don't absolutely have to have it you can just sell the G2 and put that towards something else. The Nexus S is offered on AT&T on contract now as well if you need it cheap.

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Unless you can get a trade for 850mhz DZ I don't think you're going to want to stick with it. You're printing money at this point getting the G2 so cheap so might as well try to get a trade up for a phone you can use 3G on. EDGE Is so painful.
Sounds like you wanted the keyboard, but if you don't absolutely have to have it you can just sell the G2 and put that towards something else. The Nexus S is offered on AT&T on contract now as well if you need it cheap.
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Yea I know. I just checked my upgrade status. I'm due in October so if I can tuff it out two more months, I should have more options for me. Thanks for the help guys!

Try to find a Canadian who is using BELL and wants to upgrade their phone service to Globalive. Globalive *requires* AWS band (won't work without), so any phone from bell will not work at all. Get them to do a straight up trade.
Personally though, I couldn't care less about mobile data, as long as it'll do email. I say you're better off with an HTC VISION on Edge than you are with an iTrash.