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[Q][Opinions]Benefits of rooting?

So my question is pretty simple. What are the benefits of rooting? Do they outweigh voiding your warranty?
Opinions please.

you can install the RUU and revert back to the original. Apparently no one should be able to tell if it was rooted before.

If you have to ask you dont need it.

streaming video like hulu or megavideo.
wireless tether for free
uncapped fps for a snappier feel.

I guess I'll reply to the two helpful posts.
Uncapped FPS definitely sounds good, as well as the ability to theme and set cpu speed. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.

nscott89 said:
I guess I'll reply to the two helpful posts.
Uncapped FPS definitely sounds good, as well as the ability to theme and set cpu speed. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
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Just because im nice... Better battery life, fps unlock, theming, modding, overclocking/underclocking, free hotspot/tethering, app's not currently released for phone such as "swype" and because damnit you have an android and it's cool!

DirtyShroomz said:
Just because im nice... Better battery life, fps unlock, theming, modding, overclocking/underclocking, free hotspot/tethering, app's not currently released for phone such as "swype" and because damnit you have an android and it's cool!
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Haha. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
One last question: Will this stop the 90-100% power cycle?

DirtyShroomz said:
Just because im nice... Better battery life, fps unlock, theming, modding, overclocking/underclocking, free hotspot/tethering, app's not currently released for phone such as "swype" and because damnit you have an android and it's cool!
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Don't think you need root to install swype

nscott89 said:
One last question: Will this stop the 90-100% power cycle?
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unfortunately, no

nscott89 said:
One last question: Will this stop the 90-100% power cycle?
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negative...

Ability to install ROMs without Sense installed, such as CM6. In particular, this is a benefit (to me, and many others) because it unlocks HID bluetooth compatibility (e.g., Wiimote application, Apple Wireless Keyboard)

no warranty and bad or corrupted wimax.

netmasta10bt said:
Don't think you need root to install swype
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You're right
Sent from my Evo beeesshh

eggypadua said:
no warranty and bad or corrupted wimax.
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please explain?

Root voids warrenty period. There is your answer. Can still get away with it. Also future reference. There is a search option. I answered this same topic 2 days ago. There isn't a reason not to. And winmax is fine. Some peoples Mac changes and have to fix it. Some roms don't have 4g. Its worth it to just tether for free.
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sintricate said:
please explain?
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CM6
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I'm new to the Evo, and android in general, so a couple of quick questions -
When you guys say the fps limit is unlocked, is that just for the screen? Or is that also when recording 720p video (the framerate seems quite low in that)?
Can you root an Evo from Linux? I don't have a windows or mac PC, and the tutorials I've seen (I haven't done an extensive search yet) all seem to use windows.
What is the 90-100% power cycle? I don't believe I've seen reference to that before.
Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread, it just seemed an appropriate place for the questions.

I remember when this "what is root/why should I root" question plagued the G1 forum years ago.
The 90-100 power cycle is when when the phone % drops within minutes of unplugging the charger. Correct? I think thats what thats all about, apparently its driving some of us crazy.
Im pretty sure you can root using Linux, you probably have to search for instructions. You couldn't just use a friends pc? The one click is just a simple exe file that works in minutes. Oh you do have to install the Android driver the ln the exe.
Im not sure about the fps cap, I do know HTC did put one on and some roms removed it. I bet it had to do with battery life or something.

phatmanxxl said:
I remember when this "what is root/why should I root" question plagued the G1 forum years ago.
The 90-100 power cycle is when when the phone % drops within minutes of unplugging the battery. Correct? I think thats what thats all about, apparently its driving some of us crazy.
Im pretty sure you can root using Linux, you probably have to search for instructions. You couldn't just use a friends pc? The one click is just a simple exe file that works in minutes. Oh you do have to install the Android driver the ln the exe.
Im not sure about the fps cap, I do know HTC did put one on and some roms removed it. I bet it had to do with battery life or something.
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Had to do with the HDMI output I thought.
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phatmanxxl said:
I remember when this "what is root/why should I root" question plagued the G1 forum years ago.
The 90-100 power cycle is when when the phone % drops within minutes of unplugging the battery. Correct? I think thats what thats all about, apparently its driving some of us crazy.
Im pretty sure you can root using Linux, you probably have to search for instructions. You couldn't just use a friends pc? The one click is just a simple exe file that works in minutes. Oh you do have to install the Android driver the ln the exe.
Im not sure about the fps cap, I do know HTC did put one on and some roms removed it. I bet it had to do with battery life or something.
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Thanks for the response - I read somewhere on this forum that if you charge the Evo via USB, that it got a full charge, and wouldn't drop off in the first couple of minutes, as opposed to using the stock wall charger. Has that not proven to be the case for you?
I reckon I could use a friends PC...but I don't want to use a one click method - I want to be as hands on as possible, to fully understand what's going on.

Engadget Review Atrix

Nice review.
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/#disqus_threadhttp://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/#disqus_thread

One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?

smitty1 said:
One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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same could be said about the iphone

smitty1 said:
One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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AT&T hasn't finished the enhanced backhaul to most of the network and it won't be ready to go till the end of March at the earliest. Seems like something Engadget should have mentioned.
It's a pretty solid review, I think, but now I'm wondering about bloatware. CNET's review said this:
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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but Engadget disagrees:
We're a little disappointed by the fact that Motorola and AT&T are loading up the Atrix with a considerable amount of bloatware, and there's nothing you can really do about it. Vlingo, a handful of AT&T apps, Blockbuster, and a smattering of other programs all ship on the handset with no option to delete them.
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Which is it? Rooting will take care of bloat, but it would be nice if we could get rid of it before rooting is available.
ETA: The review was updated with this:
Update: Some of the pre-installed apps can be deleted, but not all.
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Huh.

again, AT&T hasn't finished the backhaul necessary. Also, I always get lower speed tests with the Speedtest.net app than I do with XtremeLabs app. When I get my phone, I'll test the speeds, should be about 2200-3500 in Stl. if it's like the N1. That's WITHOUT the '4G'

They tested it against the iphone and the iphone beat it hands down.
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The odd thing is that if you compare the device against the iPhone 4 on AT&T's network -- tested in exactly the same locations -- you see much different results. On the iPhone, data speeds were consistently in the 2 or 3 Mbps range for downloads, and hovering around 1 Mbps for uploads."
That is a bowl of suck right there.

Battleship said:
AT&T hasn't finished the enhanced backhaul to most of the network and it won't be ready to go till the end of March at the earliest. Seems like something Engadget should have mentioned.
It's a solid review all around, I think, but now I'm wondering about bloatware. CNET's review said this:
but Engadget disagrees:
Which is it? Rooting will take care of bloat, but it would be nice if we could get rid of it before rooting is available.
ETA: The review was updated with this:
Huh.
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check the article again, there's an update.

smitty1 said:
One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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I've heard that 4G services will be launching in the coming months on AT&T.
Battleship said:
AT&T hasn't finished the enhanced backhaul to most of the network and it won't be ready to go till the end of March at the earliest. Seems like something Engadget should have mentioned.
It's a solid review all around, I think, but now I'm wondering about bloatware. CNET's review said this:
but Engadget disagrees:
Which is it? Rooting will take care of bloat, but it would be nice if we could get rid of it before rooting is available.
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I was curious about this, too. Perhaps Joshua Topolsky doesn't know about "Manage Apps >> uninstall" because he isn't a regular Android user? I doubt the CNET guy would have said that if it weren't possible.

smitty1 said:
They tested it against the iphone and the iphone beat it hands down.
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The odd thing is that if you compare the device against the iPhone 4 on AT&T's network -- tested in exactly the same locations -- you see much different results. On the iPhone, data speeds were consistently in the 2 or 3 Mbps range for downloads, and hovering around 1 Mbps for uploads."
That is a bowl of suck right there.
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They are testing in New York. AT&T in New York sucks. This is not news. It will probably be much better as long as you don't live there.

kennethpenn said:
I was curious about this, too. Perhaps Joshua Topolsky doesn't know about "Manage Apps >> uninstall" because he isn't a regular Android user? I doubt the CNET guy would have said that if it weren't possible.
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He did update the review with this:
Update: Some of the pre-installed apps can be deleted, but not all.
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so now all we need is an itemized list. Ha. Must say I'm WTFing about that Blockbuster app. I hope that's one of the apps that can be uninstalled out of the box.

Battleship said:
so now all we need is an itemized list. Ha. Must say I'm WTFing about that Blockbuster app. I hope that's one of the apps that can be uninstalled out of the box.
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On the droid x I have I could only uninstall updates, not delete it (without root). Motorola has a deal with Blockbuster, so they put it on all their phones.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if z4root worked right out of the box. It's already designed to work on Motorola phones running 2.2.1, so it probably will work for this too. Once that's done, TiBu will remove everything extra anyway.

On the battery side, the Atrix 4G packs an impressive 1930mAh battery inside, and even though Android is data intensive, we found ourselves squeezing more than 24 hours out of the device on a single charge with fairly heavy use. You can probably get more time out of the device if you avoid calls when possible and keep your brightness settings in check, but we were pleasantly surprised by the performance we saw.
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This is excellent news!
The battery was the one thing I was really concerned about. I am very pleased to see this working so well. Maybe there is hope for the Atrix after all...
Oh and on a side note:
That camera looks awful!

Seriously you idiots on XDA who gives a **** on about the bloatware one quick flash and you will be... oh wait its completely locked. FU MOTO AT&T go **** yourselves. Im waiting for a PYrimid scheme and some qualcomm 2x at Tmobile. Im sure ill be missed at Att but ill be sure to spread the already ****ty word that has been plaguing them as well.

No comment on the gps? That's like my main concern now since my captivate has a pretty crappy gps lol

sdlopez83 said:
Seriously you idiots on XDA who gives a **** on about the bloatware one quick flash and you will be... oh wait its completely locked. FU MOTO AT&T go **** yourselves. Im waiting for a PYrimid scheme and some qualcomm 2x at Tmobile. Im sure ill be missed at Att but ill be sure to spread the already ****ty word that has been plaguing them as well.
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You ok man?

lol, yeah, don't hold back or anything. This phone is sounding like a winner to me assuming it can be properly rooted and custom roms installed. I never had an interest in the docks anyways so the overall beatings they are taking in the reviews isn't a concern to me. Like engadget I love the concept but the laptop dock cannot replace a laptop as is making it a third wheel for me.

Well, all I wanted to see in that review was info on the bootloader, and... it's locked... Not really a surprise, but hey, I was holding onto hope. The fact that this phone won't be getting much dev support, and because it's all plastic, means I'll be crossing it off my list... My perfect Android device, has yet to surface.

doesn't the Droid X have custom roms? If so, couldn't there be custom ROMs on this phone as well?

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im pissed off, I have TP2 and desperate for a new phone. I was looking forward to the Atrix but not happy with att nor there unwillingness to make it easy for devs. Motoblur is a joke as well as froyo with this thing. Are you kidding me?

sdlopez83 said:
im pissed off, I have TP2 and desperate for a new phone. I was looking forward to the Atrix but not happy with att nor there unwillingness to make it easy for devs. Motoblur is a joke as well as froyo with this thing. Are you kidding me?
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I am willing to bet that custom roms will start rolling out after about a month. I don't understand what the big deal is with bootloader, with it unlocked, we might see roms a few weeks sooner, but either way it will get done. I know it will get rooted within a week, that is a fact. Once it's rooted, feel free to ASOPify the phone however you like...
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Occassionally, phone doesn't ring and missed no. not displayed

I did not come across this issue being mentioned, but if it has been, please point me in the right direction.
I have noticed the following behavior after upgrading/flashing to stock EB13, using ODIN:
On more than a few occassions, the phone does not ring or vibrate when a call comes in. Not only this, but the missed call no. does not display in the log of missed/received calls. This is quite annoying. Has anyone come across this?
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I've had the same problem to. I just get a voicemail but no record of any calls in my call log and the.phone didnt ring
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Lately this has been a DAILY occurance for me and im PISSED about it. I use my phone for BUSINESS and my "business" is pretty important so I cant afford to be missing calls like this.
However I think that it has something to SPRINTS service and not the device itself.
Just odin'd back to STOCK DK28 & rooted last night.....It hasnt happened since....at least not yet...LOL

Yeah I think its sprint service too. My phone has done it on di18,dk28 and now eb13
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musclehead84 said:
Yeah I think its sprint service too. My phone has done it on di18,dk28 and now eb13
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Ditto on this. I suspect it is either Sprint or it's the crappy RIL they're talking about in the CM7 progress thread. I think this mostly because I had the same problem on my Moment.
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Same here,its happened twice today and once on my brothers Epic as we were sittin there waiting on our ride to get here and call; So he had a voicemail telling us he was outside,was there for 5m before we checkd the phone because I brught up the fact that my phone dosnt ring sometimes. That sucks.
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Is there someone who can confirm if this is an issue with Sprint's service, or the firmware? I am having a hard time believing it would be Sprint's service, as I haven't read about this issue much - this does not prove anything, but still.
I use my phone for business, too, and definitely cannot afford to lose calls, and on top of that, not even have the missed calls appear in the call log.

Actually I was just talking to my wife and to be honest I don't ever rememrher evo doing that. Also I had an evo as well and I don't remember this issue as well. Maybe it is the epic then. Anyone else??
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I've had that on every phone I've had with sprint in the last 10 years, sprint tech called it tower lock said if you remain for an extended period of time within one towers rande then move to another sometimes the calls won't get routed right, oddly enough when I've had it happen its not all calls, don't know if this is true or just bs from sprint, first time they had me take the battery out and wait 10 mins and it was fixed, second time they had to do something on their end and I had to update my prl
Haven't had it happen for about a year but I've since then moved and regularly travel between multiple towers

This has happened to me since I got this phone. Sometimes I can be calling my chick and she right in front of me and she won't receive 2 to 4 calls till the phone actually rings. Same on the receiving end she can be calling me and no calls come thru. She'll be all pissed telling me off why I don't answer my phone and ill check to see if its on silent and no, and no calls missed. I think it samsung cause my chick has an htc evo and this **** doesn't happen to her. This will probably be my last samsung purchase.

Same.here. my wife has an evo and she gets all her calls. I don't get them and I get the same thing as you. Why didn't you answer your phone? Cause the damn thing didn't ring!!!!!
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musclehead84 said:
Same.here. my wife has an evo and she gets all her calls. I don't get them and I get the same thing as you. Why didn't you answer your phone? Cause the damn thing didn't ring!!!!!
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Lmfao... "Why are you not answering your phone?" This is the text from my wife about a couple hours ago.. I was at my neighbors with avg 4 bars of signal... I think my touch pro was the absolute worst with this issue.. text messages hours late and VMs with no missed calls...
I don't think that many ppl use 'slydial'.
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I can tell you it isn't a Sprint thing, as my HTC Aria does this as well and I am on AT&T.

Im applying for jobs right now and really need to receive phone calls. Does anyone have a fix at all for this? Ive updated the PRL and it just seems to get worse.

Well at least I know I'm not the only one.... I've had issues since going to EB13, never noticed it on other base-builds tho.

Yea its started on EB13 for me too

I've had this issue for years. I always presumed is was a CDMA thing. I have email, facebook, twitter, baseball news and others using 3g to check for new items. Since all these are on different timers, they may take up a not insignificant amount of bandwidth. As CDMA sends incomming calls to voicemail if you are using 3g, I thought this was what was causing the issue. But I never turned off all updates to see if the problem went away. Might be worth trying.

meinken said:
I've had this issue for years. I always presumed is was a CDMA thing. I have email, facebook, twitter, baseball news and others using 3g to check for new items. Since all these are on different timers, they may take up a not insignificant amount of bandwidth. As CDMA sends incomming calls to voicemail if you are using 3g, I thought this was what was causing the issue. But I never turned off all updates to see if the problem went away. Might be worth trying.
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By your logic, if I go back to JuiceDefender, the problem may be resolved to a point.

I've had it happen from candybar and flip regular phones and dumb phones and smartphones. This is nothing new. I've experienced it for years. My suggestion is to tell people to try calling a second time. It usually gets through then. It's not the phone, its the service or technology. The phone might be in a sleeping cycle.

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Lmfao... "Why are you not answering your phone?" This is the text from my wife about a couple hours ago.. I was at my neighbors with avg 4 bars of signal... I think my touch pro was the absolute worst with this issue.. text messages hours late and VMs with no missed calls...
I don't think that many ppl use 'slydial'.
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QFE - Both my TP and TP2 were awful about this. Still have it happen pretty frequently with the Epic. I'm sure it's issues in the network.

Wireless Tether redirecting to Verizon site

I've recently upgraded to the newest ROOTED OTA GB for my DROID X and noticed that my Wireless Tether no longer works.
Instead it directs me to the Verizon Customer Service site where it shows pricing for their tether plans.
Is anyone else having this issue??

That is because you are not paying for the service. It is a paid service and they are able to track if you are trying to do it. Solution: don't tether, or pay for it

incredibly unhelpful.......they're sucking enough money out of us already for the data plans on both the phones and tablets, i see no reason for them to get more money out of me for a small amount of tethering. Especially if I've never come close to using even 3/4 of the data my plans allow.
any other answers out there, minus the self-righteous undertones?

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incredibly unhelpful.......they're sucking enough money out of us already for the data plans on both the phones and tablets, i see no reason for them to get more money out of me for a small amount of tethering. Especially if I've never come close to using even 3/4 of the data my plans allow.
any other answers out there, minus the self-righteous undertones?
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I think you found your answer buddy. You're running a non final build that isn't out yet and we all knew this was going to happen. It's like saying hey I stole a car before it was released and I want to use a pay feature for free.. Can't get much support buddy.

Aside from the "buddy" stuff, that was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Makes perfect sense and I had a suspicion it was something like that.
Why does everyone talk down to everyone in here? Honest questions deserve honest answers, no preaching necessary.
cstrifee999, i appreciate your input. thanks!

I find it so funny that a lot of the same people that are rooting, loading roms, and tethering are now all snotty about it with the little "well you're stealing buddy, its unapproved, youre not holding it right, blah blah blah I'm a dirty whore" bs. That said I have still been tethering using the old methods and haven't been redirected. Search around and see if it still works for you.G Good luck.

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I find it so funny that a lot of the same people that are rooting, loading roms, and tethering are now all snotty about it with the little "well you're stealing buddy, its unapproved, youre not holding it right, blah blah blah I'm a dirty whore" bs. That said I have still been tethering using the old methods and haven't been redirected. Search around and see if it still works for you.G Good luck.
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To be completely honest, I do not support this attitude eeither even though I am one who was just guilty of it. This is just what everything is turning into. When people ask questions that have been answered days ago (no offence in any way to OP, just trying to make a point) by the person giving us information, we tend to be annoyed be people who don't know the answer to these things because we think it is obvious and we've already answered questions on it several times. And another reason that we have so much of this is just that SO MANY threads have been made about whether or not someone could tether or why it's not working. Personally, I visit these forums several times a day because I have no life and I guess I just got sick of seeing thread after thread after thread on this subject. I apologize for my attitude

You might try the workaround that was used for the official wifi tether where you disable and re-enable 3G during a tether.

Also you can try going to the wireless tether website and download the experimental 3.0 pre10 version. That was how I got mine to work. It'll have a yellow icon.
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ur stock 3g hotspot is free w/the gb dont know if u care 2 use that theres another thread on that subject somewhere think its free until may 20th along w/the thunderbolt hotspot as a promotion
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Get the TBH 3G application patch.
It changes some redirection parameters in the NVRAM.
It works. Using it now.

tech_head said:
Get the TBH 3G application patch.
It changes some redirection parameters in the NVRAM.
It works. Using it now.
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where can we get the 3G patch at?

jestercing said:
where can we get the 3G patch at?
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/5156-tbh-droid-3g-hotspot-nvram-hack.html

gdogmcstyles said:
Aside from the "buddy" stuff, that was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Makes perfect sense and I had a suspicion it was something like that.
Why does everyone talk down to everyone in here? Honest questions deserve honest answers, no preaching necessary.
cstrifee999, i appreciate your input. thanks!
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I'm just sarcastic so my tone sometimes seems inappropriate. Not to defend the people on here the jump all over others, but some of us have been asked the same question hundreds of times multiple times a day. It's not your fault or any poster of a thread that asks a question. I myself have realized I am less patient. I guess the more you know about a subject you just assume everyone has a base knowledge and that if they don't some people treat others as "lower beings" or something. So basically going to XDA is like jumping into a shark tank... Sometimes you come out missing an arm.. lol

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I'm just sarcastic so my tone sometimes seems inappropriate. Not to defend the people on here the jump all over others, but some of us have been asked the same question hundreds of times multiple times a day. It's not your fault or any poster of a thread that asks a question. I myself have realized I am less patient. I guess the more you know about a subject you just assume everyone has a base knowledge and that if they don't some people treat others as "lower beings" or something. So basically going to XDA is like jumping into a shark tank... Sometimes you come out missing an arm.. lol
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Very well put and I agree with your feelings completely. It gets very tiring to see so many threads on the same topic

I post very infrequently, but read at least once a day. And yes you do find a threads about the same questions in here. But for me it helps, it allows me to find what I am looking for easier. The more posts the more hits you get back.
Just another point of view.

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Is this confirmed to work on the 588 release of gingerbread? I had it working on my 2.2.1, but I haven't tried it on the new release.

xious1 said:
Is this confirmed to work on the 588 release of gingerbread? I had it working on my 2.2.1, but I haven't tried it on the new release.
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It never worked for me on 573 or 588. However, there are others that claim success with it. It seems as though it is hit or miss.
As a matter of fact, the first time I flashed 573, wireless tether worked. When I flashed the patch, it stopped working.
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It works intermittently
I'm running the TBH NVRAM hack and it works for me. Make sure you have the 3.0-pre12 wifi tether app. I have noticed that occasionally i lose tether so toggling airplane mode seems to fix it. Good luck.

The stance that AT&T and Verizon(aka Baby Bell's) are taking with tethering is the same crud cable companies tried to pull by saying you cant have a router with multiple computers attached w/o paying them for it. It's more of the same old telcos trying to return to their glory years driven by monopoly business plans. We don't have to pay them to tether. It's a hardware feature and they don't own the hardware. They charge for data plans. We pay for the the data plans. We can use the data plan however the heck we want. They will lose this battle just like they did with wireline service.

I don't know if it's just me......

But this whole downgrade to being considered a "Low Activity Device" is kinda messing with me a little...
I kinda really don't like it, lol...
If there is anyone else with me, let's all email the Super Mods, and see if we can bring it back
Please,
Taylore

The sad thing is that there has been more activity in here the past month than there was before, and it then gets the downgrade

As much as I hate to agree with this, we are a low activity device. Other than the general chatter about upgrading to froyo, we have a couple of ROMs and kernels that haven't been updated in quite some time, a gingerbread theme and some Ticker tweaks. Compared to other devices that is low activity.
We would need to kick up the development to really justify getting it moved.
-weudel
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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.

What does it mean to be downgraded? Can we still find all the dev stuff on our favorite sure?
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It just means that we have been moved... Which in theory would be no big deal if there wasn't a handful of people who have been trying to keep this board alive and just got there efforts thwarted.... -__-

trailblazer101 said:
Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.
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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.

I have no idea why Verizon hasn't pushed that update out. It's incredible that they could just let the Continuum people hang like that. I'm going to talk to my media relations contact (I'm a product journalist by trade) and see what they say off the record. I'm sure it will go something like this "No comment at this time".

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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon

imnuts said:
You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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I like the sound of this!
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imnuts said:
You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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Kind words but I'm still not getting my hopes up. I was just starting to get comfortable with the idea I was gonna be stuck with Eclair..
I'll stay silently hopeful.

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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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please be serious. if there is anything i can do to help, just ask. i really do like this phone, but the lack of 2.2 is a huge deal breaker. im going to try to get a different one unless i can be assured of froyo. if you provide it, i will be a very faithful follower

I activated this phone on a verizon pp before july 7 and so far I've kept my unlmtd data but I don't get upgrades....so I might have phone for awhile which means I don't care where the froyo comes from lol
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"Legacy & Low Activity Devices", Wow.
That's low. But I guess it's the sign of the times.
I purchased my Continuum in January and I'm so fed up with samsung. RSS feeds don't work at all. Very dissappointed. I've decided not to purchase a single samsung phone/tablet product in the future. Lots of other makers that I see updates happening. 2 of my kids have Fascinates and they love them but updates are really slow coming out.
If it wasn't for you guys working on it and making it better, I would have canned the phone. Thanks for all your efforts and I hope we'll get 2.2 soon.

Start posting again! Now that we have Froyo, it's time to kick things up again.
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I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?

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I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?
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there is no loophole...verizon grandfathered in all smartphone users who had unlimited data (3g or 4g) for the near future (they can always change **** down the road if they want)
but for the time being u can upgrade on contract or activate new devices from 3g to 4g or 4g to 3g and keep ur same plan no restrictions (although 4g to 3g would burn ur 4g sim after 24 hours and ud need to get a new one)

Shouldnt all this activity and the Froyo Update bump us back up out of the low activity section? Just saying....
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