[Q][Opinions]Benefits of rooting? - EVO 4G General

So my question is pretty simple. What are the benefits of rooting? Do they outweigh voiding your warranty?
Opinions please.

you can install the RUU and revert back to the original. Apparently no one should be able to tell if it was rooted before.

If you have to ask you dont need it.

streaming video like hulu or megavideo.
wireless tether for free
uncapped fps for a snappier feel.

I guess I'll reply to the two helpful posts.
Uncapped FPS definitely sounds good, as well as the ability to theme and set cpu speed. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.

nscott89 said:
I guess I'll reply to the two helpful posts.
Uncapped FPS definitely sounds good, as well as the ability to theme and set cpu speed. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
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Just because im nice... Better battery life, fps unlock, theming, modding, overclocking/underclocking, free hotspot/tethering, app's not currently released for phone such as "swype" and because damnit you have an android and it's cool!

DirtyShroomz said:
Just because im nice... Better battery life, fps unlock, theming, modding, overclocking/underclocking, free hotspot/tethering, app's not currently released for phone such as "swype" and because damnit you have an android and it's cool!
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Haha. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
One last question: Will this stop the 90-100% power cycle?

DirtyShroomz said:
Just because im nice... Better battery life, fps unlock, theming, modding, overclocking/underclocking, free hotspot/tethering, app's not currently released for phone such as "swype" and because damnit you have an android and it's cool!
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Don't think you need root to install swype

nscott89 said:
One last question: Will this stop the 90-100% power cycle?
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unfortunately, no

nscott89 said:
One last question: Will this stop the 90-100% power cycle?
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negative...

Ability to install ROMs without Sense installed, such as CM6. In particular, this is a benefit (to me, and many others) because it unlocks HID bluetooth compatibility (e.g., Wiimote application, Apple Wireless Keyboard)

no warranty and bad or corrupted wimax.

netmasta10bt said:
Don't think you need root to install swype
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You're right
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eggypadua said:
no warranty and bad or corrupted wimax.
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please explain?

Root voids warrenty period. There is your answer. Can still get away with it. Also future reference. There is a search option. I answered this same topic 2 days ago. There isn't a reason not to. And winmax is fine. Some peoples Mac changes and have to fix it. Some roms don't have 4g. Its worth it to just tether for free.
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sintricate said:
please explain?
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CM6
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I'm new to the Evo, and android in general, so a couple of quick questions -
When you guys say the fps limit is unlocked, is that just for the screen? Or is that also when recording 720p video (the framerate seems quite low in that)?
Can you root an Evo from Linux? I don't have a windows or mac PC, and the tutorials I've seen (I haven't done an extensive search yet) all seem to use windows.
What is the 90-100% power cycle? I don't believe I've seen reference to that before.
Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread, it just seemed an appropriate place for the questions.

I remember when this "what is root/why should I root" question plagued the G1 forum years ago.
The 90-100 power cycle is when when the phone % drops within minutes of unplugging the charger. Correct? I think thats what thats all about, apparently its driving some of us crazy.
Im pretty sure you can root using Linux, you probably have to search for instructions. You couldn't just use a friends pc? The one click is just a simple exe file that works in minutes. Oh you do have to install the Android driver the ln the exe.
Im not sure about the fps cap, I do know HTC did put one on and some roms removed it. I bet it had to do with battery life or something.

phatmanxxl said:
I remember when this "what is root/why should I root" question plagued the G1 forum years ago.
The 90-100 power cycle is when when the phone % drops within minutes of unplugging the battery. Correct? I think thats what thats all about, apparently its driving some of us crazy.
Im pretty sure you can root using Linux, you probably have to search for instructions. You couldn't just use a friends pc? The one click is just a simple exe file that works in minutes. Oh you do have to install the Android driver the ln the exe.
Im not sure about the fps cap, I do know HTC did put one on and some roms removed it. I bet it had to do with battery life or something.
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Had to do with the HDMI output I thought.
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phatmanxxl said:
I remember when this "what is root/why should I root" question plagued the G1 forum years ago.
The 90-100 power cycle is when when the phone % drops within minutes of unplugging the battery. Correct? I think thats what thats all about, apparently its driving some of us crazy.
Im pretty sure you can root using Linux, you probably have to search for instructions. You couldn't just use a friends pc? The one click is just a simple exe file that works in minutes. Oh you do have to install the Android driver the ln the exe.
Im not sure about the fps cap, I do know HTC did put one on and some roms removed it. I bet it had to do with battery life or something.
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Thanks for the response - I read somewhere on this forum that if you charge the Evo via USB, that it got a full charge, and wouldn't drop off in the first couple of minutes, as opposed to using the stock wall charger. Has that not proven to be the case for you?
I reckon I could use a friends PC...but I don't want to use a one click method - I want to be as hands on as possible, to fully understand what's going on.

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WHY should I root and modify my new G1? What are the benefits?

I am new to the forum, and I just bought a new G1 off craigslist tonight. ($150, new in box, with two protective cases). Why should I root and modify it? What are the benefits? What will I be able to do that I can't do right now? Links?
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
EDIT: Oh, I should have said that I am not looking for another hobby or technological fun (I get plenty of that!). I just need to know what I have to gain before I dig in. Thanks.
If you have to ask that, just don't bother.
soo many XXXX on here.
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No need to be offensive. Post reported.
My reply is perfectly valid.. If you don't even know why you want root, what's the point..? Just be happy with what you've got.
Do a search for "Root" and just read.
Tethering (use your 3g connection on your laptop)
Apps to SD (the g1 only has a few megabytes of memory for apps/games, so you can use a lot more)
Eclair(live wallpapers, more features)
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
Hero/Sense (to get a different android experience)
SPEED! (some roms like superd/fastTest/CSDI are fast as hell!)
Themes (so you can make your phone look any way you want (pink notification bars ftw))
Thats about it.
goldenarmZ said:
No need to be offensive. Post reported.
My reply is perfectly valid.. If you don't even know why you want root, what's the point..? Just be happy with what you've got.
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you don't have to give a smart answer. the guy new and just wants some help.
Zibga said:
Oh, I should have said that I am not looking for another hobby or technological fun (I get plenty of that!). I just need to know what I have to gain before I dig in. Thanks.
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Really, if you aren't looking for something you need to put a lot of work into, rooting and modifying your device probably isn't for you. Unless you want to be left with outdated and obsolete features. There are a lot of things about rooting that you really should keep up with. And if you can't make the commitment to it, it's probably best to just skip this.
But like I said before, you can do it now, forget about everything else and just keep outdated and obsolete features.
THANKS! It is a beautiful thing when a person chooses to be helpful and kind. I appreciate it.
I guess apps to the SD and the increased speed are the only two things that I would be interested in.
If the phone memory fills up, will anything else I install automatically go the the 2gb sim card?
I do not have a data plan and plan on just connecting to home and work wi-fi networks when I need to access the Internet. Will moding the G1 help with anything wi-fi related?
mejorguille said:
Tethering (use your 3g connection on your laptop)
Apps to SD (the g1 only has a few megabytes of memory for apps/games, so you can use a lot more)
Eclair(live wallpapers, more features)
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
Hero/Sense (to get a different android experience)
SPEED! (some roms like superd/fastTest/CSDI are fast as hell!)
Themes (so you can make your phone look any way you want (pink notification bars ftw))
Thats about it.
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Thank you for your honesty. I appreciate it.
grandomegabosses said:
Really, if you aren't looking for something you need to put a lot of work into, rooting and modifying your device probably isn't for you. Unless you want to be left with outdated and obsolete features. There are a lot of things about rooting that you really should keep up with. And if you can't make the commitment to it, it's probably best to just skip this.
But like I said before, you can do it now, forget about everything else and just keep outdated and obsolete features.
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mejorguille said:
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
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Anymore info on this?
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
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Anymore info on this?
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Don't get too interested. Due to the G1's slow processor, most multi-touch will be more like.. a bad synonym that I can't think of. Upgrading to the Nexus last week from this device.. was worth it.
grandomegabosses said:
Really, if you aren't looking for something you need to put a lot of work into, rooting and modifying your device probably isn't for you. Unless you want to be left with outdated and obsolete features. There are a lot of things about rooting that you really should keep up with. And if you can't make the commitment to it, it's probably best to just skip this.
But like I said before, you can do it now, forget about everything else and just keep outdated and obsolete features.
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That's basically what I meant, but with more words.
Well, after a couple days of using the phone and downloading productivity apps and games that I think I will use on a regular basis, I only have 10MB of space left on the phone. So, it looks like I will be rooting/modding out of necessity.
Why root/mod the G1?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645967
6 Things they don't tell you before you ROOT your phone
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f28/6-things-they-dont-tell-you-before-you-root-your-phone-14792/
Zibga said:
Why root/mod the G1?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645967
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Wow, my post used to help someone else. Guess it was not a stupid question after all. LOL.
Personaly I like being able to run Eclair on my phone. I just like the look and feel of it. That and using setcpu helps battery life. Just my 2 cents.
Zibga said:
6 Things they don't tell you before you ROOT your phone
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f28/6-things-they-dont-tell-you-before-you-root-your-phone-14792/
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I wouldn't listen to that article, it's VERY outdated.
Also, another reason: (see my sig)
Care to elaborate/give details why? Thanks.
Meltus said:
I wouldn't listen to that article, it's VERY outdated.
Also, another reason: (see my sig)
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Care to elaborate/give details why? Thanks.
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Well, it's over a year old, and something in the Android world is pretty much outdated after a few weeks
But here is some other reasons:
1) Not sure about this. Although, i'm pretty sure i remember using a multi-touch gallery a while ago.
2) I'm not sure why you'd want that anyway, it's pretty pointless. Also, that's only true for the home screen. There are apps on the marketplace that have 180° rotation. Cyanogen has also built in 180° rotation into his Nexus ROM so it could be possible on the G1.
3) I have no idea what the author means by this. Saving apps to your SDcard only means you can potentially install thousands of apps because they get saved to the SDcard instead of the phone. Also, i believe you can move the CACHE to the sdcard now too.
4) Downloading themes is very easy and incredibly simple to do now with Metamorph. It's pretty hard to 'soft-brick' your phone with this.
5) Not true at all. Everything is explained in very detailed tutorials. The only way you can mess up the Linux commands is if you can't read. Obviously, having a knowledge of Linux is very handy.
6) The firmware we have on our phones are MILES better than anything T-mobile releases, purely because devs get the OTA, mod it, and release something awesome, usually, the same day. Oh, you'd also lose root if you flashed one of these OTA's.
I'm not blaming the author of that thread at all, It's just things have improved ten fold since this time last year
Cyanogen has his 180 degree rotation in his newest Donut ROM (if you even really want it?)
If you use nandroid, there's never a reason to worry about a soft-brick. I nandroid every other day actually. Flashing something or not.
Finally, the person who got me into rooting was still running cyanogen 4.0.4 about a month ago and still loved it. you don't have to be "dedicated." of course, you'll be lacking some features you might find useful if you never update, but you'll still always be on top of a stock phone.
And, yes, meltus' famous louder volume hack. (If it wasn't for this I never would have been up for work with my mytouch alarm.)
Apps2sd - get a bigger sdcard. I have an 8gig class 6. payed 18 dollars for it on ebay (with free shipping) got it in 3 days. and yes, apps2sd might not free up your internal storage because of cache and all that.... but: it lets you install more apps. and: there are apps the clear your cache. you can even set it to clear periodically (mines clears every 24 hours.)
yes: I would suggest rooting, but I would also suggest that you read VERY closely and learn wtf to do before you ever even try.

Well hello there Nexus One

Hello all I got my first Nexus One yesterday I know I should root it but I've never dropped the cash I did for a device I know there is a chance of a brick. I need to let the newness wear off.
But the purpose of this post is any suggestions on specific apps for the Nexus I can try out in the market. There are some that Ive read in this forum some but maybe some were left out.
Thanks in advance.
Just sayin, but the only real chance of a brick is to let your battery die or pull it while flashing the radio. (to my understanding)
try the XDADevelopers app, it's pretty nifty.
done and done has anyone ported swype to nexus yet
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Try these threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644536
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664764
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It gets annoying reading this over and over and there is an option in your settings to turn of this spam. Consider this a polite request to do so, thanks.
boom done thanks for the heads up
crachel said:
Try these threads
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664764
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Thank you for these
Just make sure your battery is charged, you probably won't brick this phone unless your trying to.
While there's not much of a chance for bricking, it supposedly does void your warranty. Some people have been able to get work done even after unlocking though.
With that said, I thought the same thing and thought I would wait about a month before I unlocked it, but that lasted about 2 days lol.
I unlocked it and flashed Cyan's ROM and haven't looked back since.
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wondercoolguy said:
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It gets annoying reading this over and over and there is an option in your settings to turn of this spam. Consider this a polite request to do so, thanks.
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+1
I wanted to say this but thought it might be rude....
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LOL That is funny
It was funny although I have seen that one (with firefox) already. Thanks for the killing the spam.
wondercoolguy said:
Hello all I got my first Nexus One yesterday I know I should root it but I've never dropped the cash I did for a device I know there is a chance of a brick. I need to let the newness wear off.
But the purpose of this post is any suggestions on specific apps for the Nexus I can try out in the market. There are some that Ive read in this forum some but maybe some were left out.
Thanks in advance.
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If you didn't engrave it, don't root it yet. Use it for a week or two, make sure there's no reason to return/replace it due to some defect. If there is no reason, then root it =)
My only 2 reasons for rooting it are: WiFi tethering and Flashlight. Imo, there are no other real reasons to do it, stock rom is extremely well done and I didn't notice much difference between it and Cyan.
Just root it..you'll truly own your phone then. Unless you don't know how to read and follow instructions properly or are just plain incompetent..which I doubt you are since you found this forum~ the chances of bricking are low.
Root it and never look back.
Nah, give it a few days to let any hardware issues make themselves known, then root it if your of a mind.
If you don't root it, all you are going to be able to think about is rooting it. I say use it for a few days to make sure all the hardware is good and go for it. I think I lasted about 36 hours before giving in and I told myself that I wasn't going to do it!
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I, too, have the same fears and concerns... so I've never really attempted to root the phone nor tried to. I guess I just like it the way it is.
DarkDvr said:
If you didn't engrave it, don't root it yet. Use it for a week or two, make sure there's no reason to return/replace it due to some defect. If there is no reason, then root it =)
My only 2 reasons for rooting it are: WiFi tethering and Flashlight. Imo, there are no other real reasons to do it, stock rom is extremely well done and I didn't notice much difference between it and Cyan.
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My reasoning for wanting to root it, is so I can put the Desire rom on the device. I really enjoy the HTC Sense and android. The stock android on the Nexus One is fantastic I agree just IMO missing the Sense UI.

[Q] Worth the effort to go Android for 6 months

I'm probably looking at a new phone in about 6 months, maybe less. My HTC Touch is old and I'd love to see some of the new Android builds and software.
My question is, is it worth it to put the effort into finding, flashing, and tweaking a ROM for such a short period of time. More importantly, will the experience on this much older hardware be worth it considering my upgrade will likely be much newer and more powerful hardware-wise.
Along those lines, is a fully tricked out Android Touch worthy of forgoing the newest 4G phones and thus avoiding the $10 surcharge, assuming that my current 3G web browsing is tolerable as long as I get over the screen size issue?
Thank you in advance for any thoughts you have.
Android on vogue is totally worth it. it runs really nicely. not as nice as a new phone, but, hey - you've already got it. and it's pretty easy to get installed. you can always run it via haret for a week or two to 'try before you buy'
Yes, it runs nicely, although because of the somewhat low resolution, some apps are cut off like robo defense, but it's playable. (also kitten cannon, makes the menu buttons all squished up but it is still playable). Remember to use the NAND method because while i used the sd card method, its SUCKED. And you can test out android and all to see if you like it. Not sure if you can do this, but to my understanding you can use a phone for like 30 days and then return it if you don't like it. but that might only be if you are getting a new plan with a new carrier or something.
Thanks for the answers and for the tip on which method to use.
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Thanks for the answers and for the tip on which method to use.
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One last thing, if you are thinking about getting a device with 4G to eventually ditch your Vogue, make sure that you do it when 4G is available in your area. Otherwise, you will find those extra $10 per month to be a cause for rage against an otherwise really good carrier.
The Vogue should be perfectly fine as long as you can use it.
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One last thing, if you are thinking about getting a device with 4G to eventually ditch your Vogue, make sure that you do it when 4G is available in your area. Otherwise, you will find those extra $10 per month to be a cause for rage against an otherwise really good carrier.
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Speaking from personal experience?
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Speaking from personal experience?
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lol, how could you tell?
I try to water down my rage with apps and Angry Birds
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lol, how could you tell?
I try to water down my rage with apps and Angry Birds
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A fine remedy, sir.
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Maybe a suggestion to Developers

This is alittle thing that really spoiled me and kept everything on my phone nice and organized. When i had the moto droid and i was using bugless beast pete came up with a script that when you turned the phone it would automatically overclock your phone and the phone its self would adjust its self according to the situation. I dont really like using set cpu and would love to see a developer integrate something like this into our roms.
Maybe it could turn into a popsicle when you turned it? Sounds like something you would be into.
no....its just one of those things that made a rom feel alot more complete and run smoother. It just seems like every so often i have to reopen set cpu because android closed it
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Maybe it could turn into a popsicle when you turned it? Sounds like something you would be into.
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Why was this post even necessary? Just seems spiteful. To the OP, that was a nice feature, one less process in the startup and background running.
That script did nothing that setcpu will not.
And before you say, well setcpu makes my phone unstable--a script like that would do the same.
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Why was this post even necessary? Just seems spiteful. To the OP, that was a nice feature, one less process in the startup and background running.
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Its necessary because everyone wants things handed to them on a silver platter. You can't have everything done for you.
A script to automatically overclock..want me to flash the rom for you too?
scriz said:
Its necessary because everyone wants things handed to them on a silver platter. You can't have everything done for you.
A script to automatically overclock..want me to flash the rom for you too?
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So suggestions on how to improve a ROM are really just lazyness on the part of the person who thought of it?
Could have provided a simple explanation instead of being a jerk about it.
No wonder XDA gets the reputation that it does with Posts like that.
fibofan said:
So suggestions on how to improve a ROM are really just lazyness on the part of the person who thought of it?
Could have provided a simple explanation instead of being a jerk about it.
No wonder XDA gets the reputation that it does with Posts like that.
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There are already apps readily available in the app market that do that.
Regardless of all the arguing, this is in the wrong section.
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There are already apps readily available in the app market that do that.
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Then point him in that direction, there is no need to flex your e-go. Maturity is evaporating at such a quick pace in this board.
There's way too much flaming goin on up in dis piece - someone call the fire department! Or the Ohio Players (heh heh)
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FDro said:
Then point him in that direction, there is no need to flex your e-go. Maturity is evaporating at such a quick pace in this board.
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Did you read the OPs post? He mentioned setcpu in it. Why would I direct him when he already knows it exists?
Ive never had to deal with so many jackass's in my life. If you dont like the idea keep your mouth shut. I was just thinking maybe some of you people would appreciate something like this for your phone. As for set cpu....i swear every hour android is killing that process. Dont worry i wont ever suggest anything again if this is the bull**** im gonna get thrown at me.
Yea, I was going to suggest that you ask on irc... But who cares what I think...
Maybe I'm stupid, but what would be the point of having your phone overclock when turned?
Maybe you could try excluding SetCPU from your task killer? I don't run a task killer and the setcpu service has been running for the last 36 hours....
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I dont use a task killer either. Maybe its cause im not using a widget?
I think you're getting flamed because that's exactly what setcpu does. Not sure why it gets killed for you though.
How do you know it is being killed? You know there are more tasks running than the last 6 that the viewer shows, right?
You realize that the system will automatically clock up/down depending on system load. The only reason you'd need setcpu if you're running an OC kernel is if you wanted to run at max speed all the time. If that were the case, you'd kill your battery because you'd be running at the highest voltage level constantly. This script that you want sounds useless for our devices.
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Munching popcorn from the Froyo seats

I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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Technically with the locked bootloader everybody is running a Motorola released version. This new version of gb that was released was by an ota to a few phones. While not a full fledged update to gb it is very stable and reliable. I have been on it and have zero problems. All of my apps appeared. And no bootloops. The directions for everything that needs to be done are very well done and there is almost a zero percent chance of truly bricking your phone. And with sbf'ing and everything I had to do to get to gb it only took me about fifteen total minutes to get there. Enjoy your stable Froyo and popcorn and I will enjoy my stable Gingerbread.
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I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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lol that's funny.
He must have got this site confused with facebook.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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+1. With the locked bootloader and no way for people to try to flash the radio or kernel. It has made this phone nearly impossible to hard brick. I only know of one. Every other person has worked through there problems by the helpful people and guides on this and other forums. You stick around here long enough and you will be eating gingerbread instead of popcorn.
Edit: I should say no way to flash a custom kernel or custom radio.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
I'm not trying to go against the tone of the thread here by saying this, but I have Gingerbread and am really not looking back. Stock Froyo was boring, everyone will agree with that. From there you had either ApeX or rubiX (or later Liberty). I ran all three actually and settled between Apex and rubiX Focused. Apex is/was good for battery life and overall stability. rubiX Focused is/was good for speed and stability, battery life was a bit less than Apex. But to me Gingerbread is the best of both worlds. 30-40 hour battery life PLUS the much improved (for most) Quadrant scores and overall speed and snappiness is like rubiX + ApeX. (video here)
I guess all I'm trying to say is that *when done properly*, if you flash from your favorite ROM to Gingerbread it's completely doable without any hitches or hangups. The thing to remember here is this: you're going from your favorite build/ROM/setup to something completely foreign. When I first flashed 2.3 (the most recent OTA, deodexed & rooted) there were some things I complained about. Then, with time and just playing around with it, I figured them out. I think most people are "having issues" with it because it's really that much of a change. It's not the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1. It's a whole new setup, interface and all. I think it's the process that scares people, and that's understandable, but just remember.. it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to brick your phone. With SBF, you'd almost have to be trying to mess things ups. Find a decent guide and give it a shot. You can always flash back to your current setup.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
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Just a heads up, be careful with Wireless Tether on 2.3.. or even 2.2 if you're going over 5GB. People are saying that's being watched now.
I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I am definitely getting better battery life. The other day I calibrated my battery and had to wait for 1 day 13 hours and change before the thing finally died. Also if the drivers aren't working for you try this. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
just put it on a cd and go. It is linux. I haven't used it since my windows 7 64 bit system did the job for me just fine, but I have heard a really good response with this. Also, if you have any questions about it the guy is really good at answering them.
Since you are on stock....you are really in the perfect position to upgrade to gb the easiest. Root, Droid 2 Bootstrap, wipe, run the 3 files from tbh, wipe, and reboot. Off you go.
Just to note TBH has put out a rooted version of the GB leak....
I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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1. No it will redownload after you flash
2. Yes. No idea why or how to fix
3. Over-the-air. It is an update sent directly to your phone from Verizon.
4. No. But SBF'ing is not difficult at all, it's just the idea that scares people and that people make stupid mistakes
5. I think two, or four maybe. But that is completely unrelated. Look it up
Thx....damn quick response.
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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all links work here
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...3-3-4-5-588-install-patch-root.html#post68035
No joy.
Got an abort on the first file. (Good place to get one I guess). These files were downloaded to the wifey's laptop and copied over.
One distinction ...instructions here included "wipe", but the instructions from the modderX site did not mention wipe.
Furthermore there are 2 wipes .... I tried wiping the cache...no joy. The other wipe looked too scary..sumpin about reset factory blah blah blah.....
Its good to be on vacation.
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