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max hsdpa speed?

Does anyone know what is the maximum HSDPA speed on th TyTN? 1.5 or 7.2 mbits?
Thanks

1.5mb. That is the max speed for the chip in the tytn.

I thought the protocol of first generation was 1.8Mbps.
Second gen. is 3.6Mbit/s

HSDPA - theoretical vs actual
Yes, the theoretical speeds are 1.8 Mbps, 3.6 Mbps, 7.2 Mbps, 14.4 Mbps download speed for HSDPA. Of course the emphasis here is on "theoretical" assuming ideal environment, no other users, sufficient backhaul capacity, proximity to base station etc. The next generation, HSUPA will support faster upload speeds as well, also in multiples of 1.8 Mbps.
The Hermes supports, again theoretically, 1.8 Mbps download speed based on HSDPA. HTC Kaiser is expected to support HSUPA as well, but not sure at what bandwidth.
Practical speeds I've seen on my Dopod 838 Pro range from 650 - 850 kbps most of the times, with very rare peaks of 1.1 Mbps max. Plentiful in any case ...
Some interesting bits on HSxPA market adoption and trends here http://www.gsacom.com/.

Indeed it comes down to theory. However the point of the question was how fast the Tytn can be.
The point is that is not the chip that dictates the speed but the protocol that "chip" is usibg. You know just to continue the whole chip metaphor.
I myself have never reached anything over 500kbps... ever. But remember that no one is ever going to hit 1.8mbps due to packets and the way info is transferred through the architecture.
Wikipedia has some interesting breakdown of all the technologies.

I've seen 1.2mbps on my laptop through HSDPA here in Brum (whilst using the phone as a wireless modem) - once you let the device settle down, leave it in one place, it gets pretty decent speeds. It's VERY picky about where I have it in my room though, because the house kills all the 3G signal. In town, it's fine, but the handset's CPU just slows everything down anyway.
Most I've ever seen is a peak of 1.28Mbps, I've seen regular near-500kbps upload speeds though! Which is very nice. @ agovinoveritas - sounds like you're not HSDPA-enabled, you're just surfing at regular 3G speeds (576kbps, iirc?)... You tried ringing up your network operator and blagging HSDPA off them?

^^^^^^ Here in Canada, they have only "soft" released it. Basically what that means is that since most people here are not very tech savvy, the providers announces HSDPA to be available but they are still testing it. Just to show you how cheesy that is, they have not even released any HSDPA enabled devices yet. Just a Sierra Aircard, and since the amount of people out of the general population who would use just a Sierra aircard is minuscule you can see where they are going with this....
They get PR points for releasing the technology first even though they do not give anyone any phones to go along with it. For those of use WHO HAVE hsdpa devices, if we call, the CSRs either do not know what the hell they are talking about or they will use the "we do not support your handset" cheat out.

I've peaked just above 800kbit on the Hermes so far. Same as what I get with my Treo 750v + HSDPA hack.

On my Cingular 8525 the fastest I've got is about 800kbps.

1.2mbps here. Thing is my device doesnt show its connected to HSDPA?!?
Both the icon and fieldtest_157 dont show that im connected!? (this is during a download)

hsupa firmware
the upgrade from umts to hsdpa was made possible in the samsung chip on the treo 750 via a firmware upgrade, maybe it is possible to firmware upgrade to hsupa

computerlove87 said:
the upgrade from umts to hsdpa was made possible in the samsung chip on the treo 750 via a firmware upgrade, maybe it is possible to firmware upgrade to hsupa
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for the hermes no it is not

HSUPA reqyires a different chipset ( QC 7200 ). Hermes cannot be upgraded
UPA basic will be available this June in the USA. The full featured HSUPA is not ready yet.

just wanted to say that here in little old denmark i get speed between 170-180 Kb\s translated thats about 1.4 mbit.. and very stable must be close to a good station as for upload i get the full 384 kbps

ive gotten 1333

charon72 said:
just wanted to say that here in little old denmark i get speed between 170-180 Kb\s translated thats about 1.4 mbit.. and very stable must be close to a good station as for upload i get the full 384 kbps
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Mike

In Australia on Telstra you get about 1.2 Mbps - 1.4 Mbps.

Hmm well considering you are paying through the nose for data if you are wish Telstra than I'd say a "lowly" 800kbit is better than 1.4mbit.
$79.95 for 1GB? No thank you. I'm happy with 1GB data + unlimited email + other stuff for $30

^^^^ I trump you! $50 (CAD) for UNLIMITED.
Just last month I downloaded over 2gigs!!!!
Yeah, I am the biggest geek on this hill.

PPCNUT said:
In Australia on Telstra you get about 1.2 Mbps - 1.4 Mbps.
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when your close to a tower and not in a building...

3g speeds

what kind of 3g speeds are you guys getting.... i'm only averaging about 350-400 kbps here in hawaii on stock rom.

We're lucky where I live...mobile speed test says: 4325kb/s...not the worst ever...lolol...and I get about that when I speed test while tethered...
~Jasecloud4

I only get 700-800kbps the couple times I tested mine.

228 kbps

jasecloud4 said:
We're lucky where I live...mobile speed test says: 4325kb/s...not the worst ever...lolol...and I get about that when I speed test while tethered...
~Jasecloud4
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What speed test utility do you use when you're tethered? mobilespeedtest.com is known to give wildly inaccurate (sometimes even impossible) results..

Hello Everyone,
I find if I use Opera Browser for www.mobilespeedtest.com I get realistic results.
If I use IE browser, I get some very unrealistic results.
Also, Read My Thread Here, I think we are being throttled but T-Mobile's network limiting the RWIN.
Even run the TCP/IP Analyzer yourself.
Thank you,
Monnie

700-800kbps pretty much always (but i'm in the middle of nowhere so I'm not surprised)

230 kbps in dallas TX. Every time i call them they say there's a outage i sip code blah blah blah. When i tell them im no using those towers they say well its the entire city....And there script is "we don't guarantee high speed internet as long as your able to connect" On my Nexus one i got 500kbs all the time...I don't know what to say but lease sprint hurry with EVO

600-700 kpbs depending where I'm at

HA you guys are all lucky im in CT and get 200kbs and max of like 230 lmao! horrible!

I just ran it again
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I just got mine at a whooping 63 kbps!
Update: Re-run it and got it down to 33!!!!
Update 2: Oh no, it went up to 447!
Sweet!
Hey Ma! Look I gots dialup in me pokets!

fort wayne, IN
600-900 kbps down
80-110 kbps up

1030 Kbps Down
280 Kbps UP
Tim Brazil
TMOUS HD2 in Hsdpa
Test made in speedtest.net with IE mobile with Kumars rom
I have never got it that fast in a mobile in Brazil before, very pleased.
Connected to PC as modem, I get from 1000 to 4500, but this is a problem from TIM, I don't know why but they cannot limit my connection when connected to PC, normally it should be limited at 1Mbit for my plan.
Greeting Santroph

mine is waaaaaay faster at night than it is during the daytime. like 10x faster. in the daytime i linger around 100-200k at night i am upwards of 1200k

sirphunkee said:
What speed test utility do you use when you're tethered? mobilespeedtest.com is known to give wildly inaccurate (sometimes even impossible) results..
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Miami, Florida is where the tests were run: Speak Easy speedtest when tethered (as speedtest.net doesn't like to work right ). On mobile I speedtested using dslreports speed test. Tests were run at 7:30pm. Hope this helps.

i get about 3500-6000 kbps with opera mini, and like 500-1200 kbps with opera 9 or 10

illconn said:
HA you guys are all lucky im in CT and get 200kbs and max of like 230 lmao! horrible!
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Sam here in fairfield county, CT. Im getting 126kbps in opera mobile...even though I have an 'H' icon on the task bar! PIE gives me unrealistic results, which never translates into real world usage speeds. im gonna be so jealous when the Evo 4G drops for sprint. Ive always gotten upwards of 2 or 3MB in my area with sprint's 3G service. I love my HD2, but tmobile's crappy, unstable data speeds, kinda brings down the excitement a few notices.

Is anyone trying to use the hd2 w/ the flex pay internet plan?
I'm paying $10 a month for unlimited internet. It worked fine on my unlocked iphone 3gs.

jasecloud4 said:
Miami, Florida is where the tests were run: Speak Easy speedtest when tethered (as speedtest.net doesn't like to work right ). On mobile I speedtested using dslreports speed test. Tests were run at 7:30pm. Hope this helps.
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Ok cool, thanks...I just thought you were saying you had used speedtest.net, and I just cringe whenever I hear anybody referring to test results from there. Sometimes they're spot on, but sometimes they're flat out rediculous, and the results are all over the place...enough so for me to not be willing to guess which ones can be believed and which can't

Data speeds on the Vibrant?

Coming from an N1, anyone noticing decreased data speeds? They both support 7.2 and T-Mo isn't above that, so shouldn't you see roughly the same?

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Coming from an N1, anyone noticing decreased data speeds? They both support 7.2 and T-Mo isn't above that, so shouldn't you see roughly the same?
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wifi 9,842 down, 1,589 up best
3G 920 down, 602 up best
My n1 never seen above 5,200 down on wifi
my n1 never seen above 800 down and 550 up on 3g
I don't know if this has anything to do with it but I have mine set for GSM atuo prl

Slightly faster data speeds and I run them all........the.............freaking.............time.
Not a world of difference from the N1 and it may only be a placebo effect but I'll put it this way: You certainly won't lose speed when you upgrade to this phone. First speed test went north of 3Mbps and that area consistently got me 2.4-2.6Mbps with the N1.

First time I ran speedtest app I got 565kbps down and 1258kbps up...looked reversed to me.
Ran it again just now and got 979 down 582 up.
It's seems to be pretty random on the test, but real-usage on the browser is fast enough to have me very satisfied.
I'm in Miami, FL

Hmm.. I am getting anywhere from 2 to 2.4 Mb/s Down and 1.7 Mb/s Up (Raleigh/Cary NC).

The Vibrant doesnt support HSPA+ so the max you could get is 7.2mbps. Not sure if the N1 is HSPA+ compatible though.

niether does the N1...its maxed at 7.2 also

2-3Mbs down, 1-2Mbs up. Norfolk, VA.
400-600kbps down, 400-600kbps up. Virginia Beach, VA.

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2-3Mbs down, 1-2Mbs up. Norfolk, VA.
400-600kbps down, 400-600kbps up. Virginia Beach, VA.
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those are twice the speeds i'm seeing here in richmond, va with a MyTouch 3G (still waiting for my vibrant to arrive)

I'm in Tampa, FL and it depends on the latency on my end. When it says I ping at around 150 ms, the speeds hit below 1 Mb/s. When it's below 120 ms, my speeds are always above 2 Mb/s. This is download of course, upload just sucks period.

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Im getting like 3.0 mbps everywhere i go. Even no bars, seems fast to me.

I haven't been able to test 3G yet but I'm getting:
(With wifi) 1 out of 3 bars, Imagine what it would be if I had full bars!
12172 kbps Down
2047 kbps Up
I love having wireless N support in this phone as my last one only had G and it was getting 7900 down.

On WiFi:
16416 Down
1508 Up
I pull about the same speeds on my desktop over a wired connection.
On 3G
5581 Down
576 Up
This is in Milwaukee, WI to a server in Chicago. I think the speed is great, especially when I compare it to my daughters speed on Sprint and friends on AT&T.

first speed test i took i for 4.7mbps down, ~500kbps up
in dallas our downstream is ****in awesome, upstream has always suffered.

Wifi -
N1 specs- 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
54 Mbit/s
Samsung Vibrant - 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
108 Mbit/s
Should def be seeing faster wifi speeds.
Should see faster and better bluetooth also since N1 is 2.0 and Sammy is 3.0

NexVision said:
Wifi -
N1 specs- 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
54 Mbit/s
Samsung Vibrant - 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n
108 Mbit/s
Should def be seeing faster wifi speeds.
Should see faster and better bluetooth also since N1 is 2.0 and Sammy is 3.0
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the vibrant has an 802.11n radio, but only in the 2.4GHz operating freq.

wifi
14.37 down 2.10 up
3g
3.23 down 1.46 up

I have 4.5mb down and 1.3 up. Coming off the my touch 3g it is faster
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what are your speeds?

ok, so like many of you i've had the phone since the 15th and unlike some of you, i like it. lol it's actually my 1st android smartphone. i think it's decently fast, and according to the specs, it's supposed to be. i was just curious what people's speeds were.
i live in chicago and am gettin on average .65 mbps download and .55 mbps upload. are these good numbers? now when i'm on my wireless i've gotten 9.58 mbps download and 3.00 mbps upload. which is obviously way better but just on tmo's 3g, are those good??? i cant wait for HSPA numbers here in chicago but it's not here yet. :/ anyways, what kinda numbers are you guys gettin? thanks...

I get close to 3mb dl and 1.5ul when I'm at work at the port of l.a. and around .45 dl and .75 ul when I'm at home in long beach, ca. on my wireless I get around 14.9mb dl and 3.5mb ul on verizon fios.
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I average about 1mb downloads and .6 uploads. Most ive seen was about 1.4 mb

2.2 Mb Down 1.2Mb Up in New York City.

It's in my sig.

so are my 3g speeds ok? lol i mean i dont really notice it bein that slow like some others complain but bein my 1st andriod phone, i'm not really sure what kinda speeds i'm supposed to get. i'm assuming regardless of you being on tmo, the 3g speeds still vary from city to city or region to region rite?

They're not HSPA+ but they are normal for the regular 3G network.

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Considering I was getting about 800-900 Kbps on the G1, I think this is pretty darn good.

zephiK said:
2.2 MB Down 1.2MB Up in New York City.
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stop lying 2.2MegaBYTE/sec download over 3G? right. and 1.2MegaBYTE upload? wow

3-4.5 dl 1.2-1.5 upload
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i get about 2-3/mb down, 0.5-1/mb up on average over 3g in minneapolis, i have peaked at about 6mb down, i dont see that too often though

UMTS. What I find odd is that my phone will say I'm connected to HSPDA but then after a moment it kicks over to UMTS..but overall, I get good speeds.

2.14d/.44u from in my apartment where my 3g signal seems to be finicky sometimes.
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Heres mine.... 4.5 MB/s down and 1.3 MB/s up
http://www.speedtest.net/android/7712264.png

I get about x3 MB download and.5 mb upload

ok, mine is in my sig, but these are not average results. Its really weird that I can sometimes get up to 6mb down and almost 2mbs up but only at the rear entrance of the building I work in. My average is about 600k to 900k all over northern Georgia.
I thought that 600k was really slow thats because I was using a G1, with the Vibrant 600k is plenty fast for what I use it for.

J3ST3RM4A3 said:
UMTS. What I find odd is that my phone will say I'm connected to HSPDA but then after a moment it kicks over to UMTS..but overall, I get good speeds.
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UMTS is 384Kbps. It's safe to say that you're not really on UMTS 3G

jrwingate6 said:
Heres mine.... 4.5 MB/s down and 1.3 MB/s up
http://www.speedtest.net/android/7712264.png
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people, please understand that Mb and MB are not the same thing. You guys are getting 4.5 Mb not MB.

boodies said:
stop lying 2.2MegaBYTE/sec download over 3G? right. and 1.2MegaBYTE upload? wow
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Mb whatever makes you happy

zephiK said:
Mb whatever makes you happy
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it's not whatever makes me happy, it's about not making yourself look dumb. you're welcome

Speed Test results

just downloaded the speedtest.net app and my "H" speed is really slow. With no wifi, I get download speed of 219kbps and upload of 473 kbps.
Anyone know why? is is with my signal with H and full bars.

What type of latency are you seeing?
I only ask this because at night around 10pm or so, I notice I get speedtest results like this but my latency reads around 275ms. It doesn't recover until about 7 am.
I am in the NW suburbs of Chicago.
An interesting note, other speed test sites do not seem to reflect this slowdown so I am inclined to think that my problem is related to the speedtest app and not the connection. IDK..

I am in Detroit and I get crappy speeds too. I found out that even though it says "H" in the mortification area, it still could be 3g or even the old edge for data.
I called tmo about this last week, and the response I got was HSPA is not official in your area yet. This could be the same for you as well. Let me know what you find out.

I'm not 100% sure if HSPA+ has hit my area yet (Phoenix), it's been a while since I last checked. I don't seem to be having any speed troubles like you have stated. My best score so far is 4162 down, 599 up. Consistency is my only problem. I average anywhere between 2000 and 4000 kbps depending on my area.

Depending on what app you use I guess and location. I'm in Houston and I use mobilespeedtest.com app.
I can get most of the time 23000-26000+ Kbps and on occasion 36000+ Kbps which is blazing fast I use the 7mb test.

"mobile signal widget" will tell you what you're actually connected to, E, 3g or H.

bobsbbq said:
Depending on what app you use I guess and location. I'm in Houston and I use mobilespeedtest.com app.
I can get most of the time 23000-26000+ Kbps and on occasion 36000+ Kbps which is blazing fast I use the 7mb test.
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The mobilespeedtest.com app gives out wrong speeds. You can't get those kinds of speeds with this phone. Literally, it can't support that over UMTS. Speedtest.net APP will give you legit speeds.

bobsbbq said:
Depending on what app you use I guess and location. I'm in Houston and I use mobilespeedtest.com app.
I can get most of the time 23000-26000+ Kbps and on occasion 36000+ Kbps which is blazing fast I use the 7mb test.
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narunetto said:
The mobilespeedtest.com app gives out wrong speeds. You can't get those kinds of speeds with this phone. Literally, it can't support that over UMTS. Speedtest.net APP will give you legit speeds.
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I think he accidentally added extra zeros.
The speedtest in my sig is from my Vibvrant, but I've gotten as fast as 7.44 on my G2.
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Most of the time when i run speedtest i pulled a steady 4.5 mbps to 5mbps and some times when i just turn the phone on i can get 6.2 mbps down but w.e i do i always get a constant 1.25 to 1.3mbps up

gravis86 said:
I think he accidentally added extra zeros.
The speedtest in my sig is from my Vibvrant, but I've gotten as fast as 7.44 on my G2.
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Sorry no I did not add any extra zeros. Whether the app is correct or not I can't comment on that.
Out of curiosity what do others get with this same app? There is a obvious difference in that the mobilespeedtest app is in kbps vs the other test is in Mbps.
I also think the fact that the size of the file downloaded could have an impact on the results.

What is a mortification area??
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