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max hsdpa speed?

Does anyone know what is the maximum HSDPA speed on th TyTN? 1.5 or 7.2 mbits?
Thanks

1.5mb. That is the max speed for the chip in the tytn.

I thought the protocol of first generation was 1.8Mbps.
Second gen. is 3.6Mbit/s

HSDPA - theoretical vs actual
Yes, the theoretical speeds are 1.8 Mbps, 3.6 Mbps, 7.2 Mbps, 14.4 Mbps download speed for HSDPA. Of course the emphasis here is on "theoretical" assuming ideal environment, no other users, sufficient backhaul capacity, proximity to base station etc. The next generation, HSUPA will support faster upload speeds as well, also in multiples of 1.8 Mbps.
The Hermes supports, again theoretically, 1.8 Mbps download speed based on HSDPA. HTC Kaiser is expected to support HSUPA as well, but not sure at what bandwidth.
Practical speeds I've seen on my Dopod 838 Pro range from 650 - 850 kbps most of the times, with very rare peaks of 1.1 Mbps max. Plentiful in any case ...
Some interesting bits on HSxPA market adoption and trends here http://www.gsacom.com/.

Indeed it comes down to theory. However the point of the question was how fast the Tytn can be.
The point is that is not the chip that dictates the speed but the protocol that "chip" is usibg. You know just to continue the whole chip metaphor.
I myself have never reached anything over 500kbps... ever. But remember that no one is ever going to hit 1.8mbps due to packets and the way info is transferred through the architecture.
Wikipedia has some interesting breakdown of all the technologies.

I've seen 1.2mbps on my laptop through HSDPA here in Brum (whilst using the phone as a wireless modem) - once you let the device settle down, leave it in one place, it gets pretty decent speeds. It's VERY picky about where I have it in my room though, because the house kills all the 3G signal. In town, it's fine, but the handset's CPU just slows everything down anyway.
Most I've ever seen is a peak of 1.28Mbps, I've seen regular near-500kbps upload speeds though! Which is very nice. @ agovinoveritas - sounds like you're not HSDPA-enabled, you're just surfing at regular 3G speeds (576kbps, iirc?)... You tried ringing up your network operator and blagging HSDPA off them?

^^^^^^ Here in Canada, they have only "soft" released it. Basically what that means is that since most people here are not very tech savvy, the providers announces HSDPA to be available but they are still testing it. Just to show you how cheesy that is, they have not even released any HSDPA enabled devices yet. Just a Sierra Aircard, and since the amount of people out of the general population who would use just a Sierra aircard is minuscule you can see where they are going with this....
They get PR points for releasing the technology first even though they do not give anyone any phones to go along with it. For those of use WHO HAVE hsdpa devices, if we call, the CSRs either do not know what the hell they are talking about or they will use the "we do not support your handset" cheat out.

I've peaked just above 800kbit on the Hermes so far. Same as what I get with my Treo 750v + HSDPA hack.

On my Cingular 8525 the fastest I've got is about 800kbps.

1.2mbps here. Thing is my device doesnt show its connected to HSDPA?!?
Both the icon and fieldtest_157 dont show that im connected!? (this is during a download)

hsupa firmware
the upgrade from umts to hsdpa was made possible in the samsung chip on the treo 750 via a firmware upgrade, maybe it is possible to firmware upgrade to hsupa

computerlove87 said:
the upgrade from umts to hsdpa was made possible in the samsung chip on the treo 750 via a firmware upgrade, maybe it is possible to firmware upgrade to hsupa
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for the hermes no it is not

HSUPA reqyires a different chipset ( QC 7200 ). Hermes cannot be upgraded
UPA basic will be available this June in the USA. The full featured HSUPA is not ready yet.

just wanted to say that here in little old denmark i get speed between 170-180 Kb\s translated thats about 1.4 mbit.. and very stable must be close to a good station as for upload i get the full 384 kbps

ive gotten 1333

charon72 said:
just wanted to say that here in little old denmark i get speed between 170-180 Kb\s translated thats about 1.4 mbit.. and very stable must be close to a good station as for upload i get the full 384 kbps
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In Australia on Telstra you get about 1.2 Mbps - 1.4 Mbps.

Hmm well considering you are paying through the nose for data if you are wish Telstra than I'd say a "lowly" 800kbit is better than 1.4mbit.
$79.95 for 1GB? No thank you. I'm happy with 1GB data + unlimited email + other stuff for $30

^^^^ I trump you! $50 (CAD) for UNLIMITED.
Just last month I downloaded over 2gigs!!!!
Yeah, I am the biggest geek on this hill.

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In Australia on Telstra you get about 1.2 Mbps - 1.4 Mbps.
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when your close to a tower and not in a building...

how fast is your 3g??

I currently live in los angeles but on g1 I average about 600kbps. But before the update I averaged about 800-900kbps. Maybe its just a radio issue/

This is from Niagara Falls Canada on the Rogers network

I'm in markham Ontario Canada. In a building with 2 bars signal on the Fido Network.
Thanks for the test link AC!

How accurate is that site? It says I have 13,128kbps on edge xD

Dladu said:
How accurate is that site? It says I have 13,128kbps on edge xD
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wow i wish i could get that speed
edit: just ran the test twice and got 6.01Mbps and 7.41Mbps(i'm on EDGE) i think it lies

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How accurate is that site? It says I have 13,128kbps on edge xD
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are you sure you're reading it right? if so...JEALOUS.

Yeah I think its something up with the site, ran again now I have 8969 kbps which is still way off for edge
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It's pointless to fine-grain compare bandwidth test results of an internet connection with a shared interface (in this case the 2G/3G air interface) since the amount of load on the interface is changing constantly. At best you could use your speed test to get in the ballpark (i.e. to confirm you are really on HSDPA) but to say 'my radio dropped my download speed from 800Kb/s to 600Kb/s' is probably erroneous because a difference of 200Kb/s is definitely well within the variation of an air interface. Unless of course you conduct a controlled experiment with both radios with many data points and you can actually draw a distinct correlation.
Edit: By the way a somewhat more accurate bandwidth test is here:
http://i.dslr.net/tinyspeedtest.html

Atleast most of you have the 3g network. Here in my area of CT we only have the Edge network. I wonder what's taking tmobile so long to make it available in my area.

I generally get 400-600kbps on good 3G signal.

You're being measured by kiloBITs per second, not kiloBYTEs
http://www.unitconversion.org/data-storage/kilobits-to-kilobytes-conversion.html
Edit: Added link

Speed test is wrong
the way the cellular internet works: all data in all networks are sent in packets of information. if you run a longer test then you will get a more accurate reading. mine said 572kb/s

dwright48 said:
the way the cellular internet works: all data in all networks are sent in packets of information. if you run a longer test then you will get a more accurate reading. mine said 572kb/s
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Not wrong, but not accurate.
There is no accurate way of testing, as there is no constant speed.
Somedays you might get a really high measure on speed test, while you might get a low speed that is unheard of on other days.
So I mostly agree with you xDDD

dwright48 said:
the way the cellular internet works: all data in all networks are sent in packets of information. if you run a longer test then you will get a more accurate reading. mine said 572kb/s
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b=bit B=byte, just so you know.
One should also keep in mind that bandwidth tests usually only test the speed of a single connection. As anyone who has used a multi-part download manager knows, you can usually get a higher overall throughput with multiple connections going. This seems especially the case with UMTS networks, where carriers probably throttle down individual connections to try ensuring that each user gets a fair slice of the pie.
I notice that I get the fastest speeds on my 3G when I am downloading usenet files (10 concurrent connections, each connection only downloading a few hundred kb at a time). While I might max my single connection download speed at 400 Kb/sec (50KByte/sec), I can usually get about 1.5MBit/sec when running multiple connections to a fast server. It's not the 3.6MBit/sec advertised, but not bad either.

scrub scrub

edge:
inside my apt 8480 kbps
outside my apt 8436 kbps
3g:
inside my apt 6206 kbps
outside my apt 6400 kbps
I did 3 test for each one and chose the fastest of the 3
and they wonder why i leave my phone on edge....
this was in northwest Austin Texas

842 kbit/sec (dslreports.com/mspeed) Near O'Hare Airport

xjreyes said:
edge:
inside my apt 8480 kbps
outside my apt 8436 kbps
3g:
inside my apt 6206 kbps
outside my apt 6400 kbps
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This CAN NOT be real. you can't even get 10% of that speed on EDGE.

3g speeds

what kind of 3g speeds are you guys getting.... i'm only averaging about 350-400 kbps here in hawaii on stock rom.

We're lucky where I live...mobile speed test says: 4325kb/s...not the worst ever...lolol...and I get about that when I speed test while tethered...
~Jasecloud4

I only get 700-800kbps the couple times I tested mine.

228 kbps

jasecloud4 said:
We're lucky where I live...mobile speed test says: 4325kb/s...not the worst ever...lolol...and I get about that when I speed test while tethered...
~Jasecloud4
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What speed test utility do you use when you're tethered? mobilespeedtest.com is known to give wildly inaccurate (sometimes even impossible) results..

Hello Everyone,
I find if I use Opera Browser for www.mobilespeedtest.com I get realistic results.
If I use IE browser, I get some very unrealistic results.
Also, Read My Thread Here, I think we are being throttled but T-Mobile's network limiting the RWIN.
Even run the TCP/IP Analyzer yourself.
Thank you,
Monnie

700-800kbps pretty much always (but i'm in the middle of nowhere so I'm not surprised)

230 kbps in dallas TX. Every time i call them they say there's a outage i sip code blah blah blah. When i tell them im no using those towers they say well its the entire city....And there script is "we don't guarantee high speed internet as long as your able to connect" On my Nexus one i got 500kbs all the time...I don't know what to say but lease sprint hurry with EVO

600-700 kpbs depending where I'm at

HA you guys are all lucky im in CT and get 200kbs and max of like 230 lmao! horrible!

I just ran it again
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I just got mine at a whooping 63 kbps!
Update: Re-run it and got it down to 33!!!!
Update 2: Oh no, it went up to 447!
Sweet!
Hey Ma! Look I gots dialup in me pokets!

fort wayne, IN
600-900 kbps down
80-110 kbps up

1030 Kbps Down
280 Kbps UP
Tim Brazil
TMOUS HD2 in Hsdpa
Test made in speedtest.net with IE mobile with Kumars rom
I have never got it that fast in a mobile in Brazil before, very pleased.
Connected to PC as modem, I get from 1000 to 4500, but this is a problem from TIM, I don't know why but they cannot limit my connection when connected to PC, normally it should be limited at 1Mbit for my plan.
Greeting Santroph

mine is waaaaaay faster at night than it is during the daytime. like 10x faster. in the daytime i linger around 100-200k at night i am upwards of 1200k

sirphunkee said:
What speed test utility do you use when you're tethered? mobilespeedtest.com is known to give wildly inaccurate (sometimes even impossible) results..
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Miami, Florida is where the tests were run: Speak Easy speedtest when tethered (as speedtest.net doesn't like to work right ). On mobile I speedtested using dslreports speed test. Tests were run at 7:30pm. Hope this helps.

i get about 3500-6000 kbps with opera mini, and like 500-1200 kbps with opera 9 or 10

illconn said:
HA you guys are all lucky im in CT and get 200kbs and max of like 230 lmao! horrible!
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Sam here in fairfield county, CT. Im getting 126kbps in opera mobile...even though I have an 'H' icon on the task bar! PIE gives me unrealistic results, which never translates into real world usage speeds. im gonna be so jealous when the Evo 4G drops for sprint. Ive always gotten upwards of 2 or 3MB in my area with sprint's 3G service. I love my HD2, but tmobile's crappy, unstable data speeds, kinda brings down the excitement a few notices.

Is anyone trying to use the hd2 w/ the flex pay internet plan?
I'm paying $10 a month for unlimited internet. It worked fine on my unlocked iphone 3gs.

jasecloud4 said:
Miami, Florida is where the tests were run: Speak Easy speedtest when tethered (as speedtest.net doesn't like to work right ). On mobile I speedtested using dslreports speed test. Tests were run at 7:30pm. Hope this helps.
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Ok cool, thanks...I just thought you were saying you had used speedtest.net, and I just cringe whenever I hear anybody referring to test results from there. Sometimes they're spot on, but sometimes they're flat out rediculous, and the results are all over the place...enough so for me to not be willing to guess which ones can be believed and which can't

Sprint download speeds on the Evo?

What should I be expecting to see for download speeds on my Evo with Sprint. I just ran a speedtest app from the market and I'm getting higher upload speeds that download speeds.
I seem to average around 450 or so kbps. I topped out at 700 kbps. My signal seems to be full bars.
Upload speeds seem to be equal to or higher than my download speeds.
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I'm getting close to the same siting at my house with 4 bars. 565/418
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i've seen upwards of 6mbps

I got between 256kbps to 500kbps download speed 3G . Some time less than 256kbps. It suck, I think depend the area and how far is the towers

Usually get around 1Mbps, on average, around the house. Give or take a little fluctuation.
3G, usually don't have full bars but I'm not usually paying much mind to them either. So not sure.

Just ran it from my office. I have 5 out of 6 "bars" on 3G for what it's worth. This is in Baltimore and I am pinging the Philadelphia server.
Ping: 94 ms
Download: 919 kbps
Upload: 617 kbps
Wimax doesn't do as good a job with the whole "bars" thing but they're always an estimate at best anyway. It's showing 2 out of 3 at the moment.
Ping: 135 ms
Download: 3640 kbps
Upload: 992 kbps
Typically my downloads are around 600-1000kbps on EVDO and 3000-5000 on Wimax. Uploads vary more but Wimax usually tops out around 1000-1100kbps.

Wimax in Chicago
This is what i got. The fastest I've gotten was about 8mbps down (not shown here).

With -40 dbs (full signal) I've gotten 2310 kbps down and 721kbps up...

Forgot to mention I was on 3g. Dunno how to add the pic from my phone...

3G speeds increased with -B modification

Mine tops 1.2mps
EVIL PHONE

Can we focus on 3g speeds?
I'm pretty sure I'm picking up an Evo tomorrow and these posts have been very interesting to me. I will be in 3g territory 99.8% of the time I have this phone. My sprint rep guy told me that the towers in my town are sprint towers (no idea if that really means anything,) so I'm hoping for excellent 3g data coverage here.
If anyone have any 3g reports for Beaver Dam, Wisconsin (which i'm sure you dont) feel free to post!
And if any of this doesn't make any sense, I blame it on the Ambien Walrus that is distracting me here. See below for details.
Edit: Apparently I cannot post my fabulous picture. Anyways: 3G>Madison Area>How Good???

With 4G, 1 bar, 4-5 Mbps is the usual around here. I hate the **** quality of building penetration. I don't know if that will forever be a given, but GOT DAYUM, if I could just post my phone up by the window and rock the hotspot that'd be cool ... or if when I was laying on the couch (head / phone close to window) it'd somehow pick it up. Not a huge deal.
3G though, I should start taking more speedtests (which are known to be inaccurate anyways - but I try a few to get a "somewhat" average reading. or so I hope) just to see. I see speeds that FAR outweigh what I pull in. I don't get it. 3G is solid, never experience any shortages but some places just have MAX signal?

Is everyone just using the Speedtest app that comes with the phone to determine their speeds? I had read that it gave incorrect results. Mine are all over the place, but even if I use DSlReports or SpeakEasy, the results vary significantly.

This is with my laptop wirelessly connected to my phone.

csmall said:
What should I be expecting to see for download speeds on my Evo with Sprint. I just ran a speedtest app from the market and I'm getting higher upload speeds that download speeds.
I seem to average around 450 or so kbps. I topped out at 700 kbps. My signal seems to be full bars.
Upload speeds seem to be equal to or higher than my download speeds.
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I get around 500down,250 up here on 3g. In strong Wimax areas I get around 6M down (dont recall upload speed). They seem to be getting a new tower up around me now. As these things go,they are spotty at first,then they get them fully online. When I can get a signal in my house (by putting the phone in the back rooms window) I can get around 2M down and 400K up. Im actually typing this while tethered (I rooted today and installed wifi tether.) Its working pretty good.

3g speed test- post your 3g speed

Wanting to get some feedback on everyones data speeds I'm using speednet app from market. I get an average of 300kbs down and 220kbs up. Vzw says 600-800 avg for a 3g network so they want to replace my phone?? Friends at work are getting same so I don't agree with phone exchange. Please share I would like to see how other areas fare. I'm in down state Il for reference.
Edit- currently running stock froyo update after com rom had same issue so went back to stock for sake of troubleshooting..
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I'm not using same phone as u are but mine on 3g averages 1.5mbps - 2.6mbps. Southern Louisiana.
Infected Thunderbolt.

I get .3 mbps down and .3 mbps up. Compared to a vzw iPhone right next to me, they're getting .6 mbps down and .5 mbps up. Dumb ****.

We have 5 tests here at work all five different phones fascinate droid x tbolt blackberry og droid and incredible 4 tests all same 3-400kbs down then we all got 2 tests at 1.1 -1.3 mbs still looking for more ppl to test here.??
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I get .89 Mbps download and .2 6Mbsp upload with two bars of 3G.
Did a second test and got 1 Mbps down and .5 Mbps up.
Third test: 1.27 Mbsp down and .15 Mbps up with three bars.
Fourth test: .81 and .29
Fifth test: 1.35 Mbps down and .42 Mbps up.
All tests done from the same phone and location.
Located in Virginia and running ComRom v1.3

with 2 bars of signal i get around .6 mb, with three bars around 1.2mb, full signal between 1.5-2mb.

I've got a cell tower right next to my place of work (4 bars) and consistently get between 1400-1500kbps down and 500-700kbps up.

I always get between .6 and .7 mbps download and .4 mbps up.
Running com rom 1.2.
SE Washington
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Atlanta,GA area
1400kbps down
600kbps up
Current rom: Evil Fascination v3.5.1
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Alright well it seems that my 3g is slower than most. Tested more phones outside of work and in my area seems it is network related since different phones are doing same speeds some rooted others not. at home speed is better and close to 5-6kbs? Still slow considering my wifi at home nets me an average 7mbps sometimes later at night I can see 9 strong mbps. I'm guessing a phone swap is the only support they know how to give?
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I have gotten 2.2 mbps down on the EC01 modem before. Had the best results with that, although I would like to run more tests on ED01.

ilprobu2 said:
Alright well it seems that my 3g is slower than most. Tested more phones outside of work and in my area seems it is network related since different phones are doing same speeds some rooted others not. at home speed is better and close to 5-6kbs? Still slow considering my wifi at home nets me an average 7mbps sometimes later at night I can see 9 strong mbps. I'm guessing a phone swap is the only support they know how to give?
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Try taking off the factory battery cover and see if your signal improves. My signal was like yours until I removed the stock cover. I pull 18mb down 4mb up on my wifi now, where before 7mb was the best it could do on a 25mb broadband connection right next to my router lol. I bought a new case and the signal is great...tried umpteen times now switching back and forth from the factory cover...the signal drops from -78db to -100db everytime. One guy said it didnt work on his fascinate, but maybe certain versions of the phone have the antenna mounted differently,, not really sure. my SF is v.11 running rooted stock 2.2.1 froyo.

EC01 radio, Evil Fascinate, and 1.3 OTB kernel would give me an average of 1.2-2.4 MBPS. The only time I get anything lower is at my girlfriends house(average around .7-.8 down). Anywhere else in Pittsburgh is 1.2 MBPS or better.

Seem to average 1900 kbps down 700 up. This is from various times of day in my apartment. And I had similar results with EC01 (sc 2.9.2). Denver, CO area.
Beautifully working (so far) CommRom 1.3/ED01

Nice, I usually get 3-4 average during the day, but this was at 2:34, and I love the speed. <3 (Running KB5 modem for Vibrant)
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Here's my blazing fast 3G speeds from midtown NYC. Tested twice from an nyc server and one in NJ. I used kB/s for one and Mbps so people can compare, point, and laugh. These are my best speeds from about 5 attempts. this is why I usually have WiFi turned on when it's available.. I can hear the 56K Dial-Up modem sounds when I connect to web pages.
Samsung Fascinate on Verizon Wireless. Community Rom v1.2. ED01.

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Here's my blazing fast 3G speeds from midtown NYC. Tested twice from an nyc server and one in NJ. I used kB/s for one and Mbps so people can compare, point, and laugh. These are my best speeds from about 5 attempts. this is why I usually have WiFi turned on when it's available.. I can hear the 56K Dial-Up modem sounds when I connect to web pages.
Samsung Fascinate on Verizon Wireless. Community Rom v1.2. ED01.
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How do you guys handle such slow speeds on 3G? I get 3-5 mbps on T-Mobile with around 60-80 ping and it's a little slow haha. But Verizon has much more 3G coverage....
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