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[Q] U.S.A HD2 and Android

hay guys sorry id some of you get mad for me posting this here but this is the only place i know my qustion will get answered. OK im new to the windows phone deal. i have a mytouch slide and a g1 rooted so i under that hole part here is my ?.
From what i have read on the forums only build roms work with the hd2. well i would like to put android on it but after looking around most the roms on here and the links on here for putting android on the phone all lead to the LEO forum is the correct or no if not can someone tell me were to get the most resent android rom for the hd2 usa, now there seems to be two ways of installing it one is from sd card and 2 is from boot i would like to do it from boot any help would be grate thanks all and happy modding

Someone correct me if I am wrong...
There are not TWO ways of doing android.
Android is ALWAYS installed on the SD card. The only way to "boot" to it is to have your WM configured to boot the two files from your SD card required to run it, in essence there are a few apps that can do this at WM startup.
You will still need an Android friendly Windows Mobile ROM, so the stock from will not work. You also need a compatible radio.
I would check out the HD2 Android Dev forum for more info though.

JonSolo said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong...
There are not TWO ways of doing android.
Android is ALWAYS installed on the SD card. The only way to "boot" to it is to have your WM configured to boot the two files from your SD card required to run it, in essence there are a few apps that can do this at WM startup.
You will still need an Android friendly Windows Mobile ROM, so the stock from will not work. You also need a compatible radio.
I would check out the HD2 Android Dev forum for more info though.
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The Android port cannot replace the WinMo OS just yet. The only way is to install it to your SD Card and it will run off of that. There are apps that allow you to choose between WinMo and Android on bootup. The LEO Android forum is correct since Android builds do not matter which device it is booted on.
Android is able to run on the Stock ROM, but people have said it runs better with a different ROM/Radio.
The build I recommend is Energy ROM / Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and an Android Build of your choice, but you can always run it on the Stock if you feel like it.

gaarry said:
The build I recommend is Energy ROM / Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and an Android Build of your choice, but you can always run it on the Stock if you feel like it.
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+1 EnergyROM w/ 2.12.50.02 radio works very nicely for me.
pactive73 said:
can someone tell me were to get the most resent android rom for the hd2 usa
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I would look Here (FroyoStone thread) first and see how you like it. Latest release Sep 2nd.

Also when you download the Rom your prob wanna need the rmnt version. Froyostone is the best my far for me and bootloaders are for people with more then one Android Rom on there sdcard
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A Big Step Into The Scene

Ok im going to take the plunge and try to run android on my HD2 i havent really messed about with my mob it too much but when i first got the Phone i flashed from the 02 ROM to the WWE i think i had to run Hspl or something like that cant quite remember.
basicly before i start i would like to ask a few questions in the hope some can open the door for me
to enjoy android on my HD2
1) I have downloaded FroyoStone Sense - Version 3.2
I know its preference but is this a good starting block i.e most support stable relese and so on. or would you recomend a different build?
2) I hear windows roms can cause issues when running android my phone is currently at this stage below.
will this cause problems do i need to change to a custom rom and if so again whats most people using
OS - 5.2.21869
Manila - 2.5.19211619.0
Rom - 1.66405.2 WWE
Radio - 2.06.51.07
BARE BONES WM ROM FOR ANDROID BY NRGZ28
[ROM][WWE]★★★Astraios Roms★★★[REG/BUUF/GTX][23569][22nd July]
ELEGANCIA ROM Series™
ChuckyROM GTX + CHT 1.8.5 - 23128 ~ 2.10.1
¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.- Energy -.¸¸.·´¯ | 21911||23129 * Sense 2018
or other?
3) Question 2 brings me on to radios i guess if the above is necessary then a radio is needed,
Again what are people preference?
4) If the above questions are required then i know im required to hspl my HD2 but what version should
I use and does it matter that i have used a previos version?

Can some please just take 2mins out to help me please?

Westie69 said:
Can some please just take 2mins out to help me please?
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Sorry this has to be done mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=743&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch

Westie69 said:
Can some please just take 2mins out to help me please?
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Instead of asking to be spoon-fed, you could try taking 2 mins out of your own day to do a little reading. These questions have been asked (literally) hundreds of times before.
Enjoy.

Its not about being spoon feed i think i have ask valid questions if you follow a scene right from the begining of corse you will know exactly what to do, but as im coming into this scene 9 months too late theres a lot to learn i have done the searching and the reading.
I dont think im that far off from understanding what the procedure is all im asking for is a few simple questions to be answered by people in the know!
Nice to see that this community is willing to help out new comers i hope that you try to get into a scene and no one helps you out because you will understand what it is like!
At the end of the day its my mobile phone that i use daily for work i carnt really afford to be fashing dodgy unstale roms diffrent radios and so on.

Westie69 said:
Its not about being spoon feed i think i have ask valid questions if you follow a scene right from the begining of corse you will know exactly what to do, but as im coming into this scene 9 months too late theres a lot to learn i have done the searching and the reading..
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I sold my Nexus one only last week, and purchased this phone.
I did not start a thread asking what to do?
Ive tried a lot of Win mobile roms, radios, sdcards and android builds to get to a stable setup..
No one can tell you what is best for you.... there are many factors that will effect your experience and you would know this by doing some quality reading instead of waiting to be told...

I can't be bothered with the "do this" "do that" and "search the 1,000,000 threads for something I know" thing.
Upgrade your radio to a minimum of 2.08.50 (I'd recommend 2.12.50 or higher, even 2.15.50 - the current latest).
I use FroyoStone Sense v3.1 (so I can't speak for v3.2) and I find it the best version I've tried. I've only tried a handful though, so I'm no expert.
As for HSPL, if you've already got a custom ROM on there then don't worry about that. If you can, use the latest official ROM from HTC. That comes with the latest radio and doesn't care about HSPL.

Help.

OK ive been looking and looking for a simple solution.
everyone knows about the robotic voice on HD2 when you get android. ive been searching old links and posts but most of it doesnt work, people say use miri, i dont really even understand what miri is. but i dont want any WinMo, i like using android on my phone, i was wondering if someone could just point me in the direction of a android build that doesnt have a robotic voice or a simple solution. Please dont be rude, ive been looking for maybe weeks, i would just like some help. i dont really mod my phone much so anything that is simple or helpful will be greatly appreciated.

Vercetor said:
OK ive been looking and looking for a simple solution.
everyone knows about the robotic voice on HD2 when you get android. ive been searching old links and posts but most of it doesnt work, people say use miri, i dont really even understand what miri is. but i dont want any WinMo, i like using android on my phone, i was wondering if someone could just point me in the direction of a android build that doesnt have a robotic voice or a simple solution. Please dont be rude, ive been looking for maybe weeks, i would just like some help. i dont really mod my phone much so anything that is simple or helpful will be greatly appreciated.
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You`ve searched for weeks and never stumbled upon something like :http://www.google.ro/#hl=ro&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=645&q=android+robotic+voice&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=d194facf2c53bcbc
I sincerely doubt that...
Then again, there are three main reasons you are having problems with your audio part.
1. You fail to run CLRCAD.exe before HaRET.exe;
2. Your radio is causing these issues;
3. Your ROM (WinMo ROM, NOT Android build!) is causing these issues;
Make sure you first run CLRCAD.exe, then HaRET.exe. If this is done and the issue is still present, try and flash another radio version, such as 2.10 or 2.12 (try some and see which fits you and your surroundings best). If this is taken care of as well and the issue is still present, try and use another ROM (the more basic it is, the better; I`m using one which has absolutely nothing but the old WinMo 5 interface, so it boots in about 4-5 seconds).
Good luck and please refer from posting such "famous" questions before using every option you have available.
EDIT: FYI, MIRI is a WinMo ROM customized for Android. For more information, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778398

MOD EDIT: Unacceptable language removed

Vercetor said:
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I don`t remember insulting you in any way, everything I said was that by simply googling "android robotic voice" you could have found your answers and I bet you would have found your answers by hitting the "search" button and finding everything right here on XDA. I am truly sorry for your cultural and intellectual gap, but I`m not going to lower myself to your level, so you will hear no insults from me. You, my dear sir, are the one who should refrain from calling someone who helped you an "asshole".
Have a nice day and enjoy your Android HD2.

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wow dude! wow!
you aperently lack reading comprehension. he did give you answers.
if all you had read was just the OP in the stickies, you would have found answers, so you obviously had not been reading verry much.
you ask for a polite answer, i think you got as polite of an answer as you deserved concidering theres atleast 5 threads with the same topic going on. then you go absolutely postal? post reported! grow a little thicker skin and get an education so you can learn to read.

Thread cleaned of language and flaming.
OP, please mind the language

please help
for more than a month trying to install android flashing, hard reseting, restoring
i am really tired i even forgot why i wanna use android any way.
my current software information is:
stock rom from htc website arabic enabled
OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
manila version 2.5.19211619.0
rom version 1.66.415.9 (76641) WWE
radio version 2.15.50.14
protocol version 15.42.50.11U
HSPL 3
can any body tell me which of the above needs changing and which android version should i use and is IT possible to keep using stock rom?
my current android version is froyostone and mp3 not working and incoming and outgoing calls robot sound i cant hear any thing
thanks

sleven711 said:
for more than a month trying to install android flashing, hard reseting, restoring
i am really tired i even forgot why i wanna use android any way.
my current software information is:
stock rom from htc website arabic enabled
OS version 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
manila version 2.5.19211619.0
rom version 1.66.415.9 (76641) WWE
radio version 2.15.50.14
protocol version 15.42.50.11U
HSPL 3
can any body tell me which of the above needs changing and which android version should i use and is IT possible to keep using stock rom?
my current android version is froyostone and mp3 not working and incoming and outgoing calls robot sound i cant hear any thing
thanks
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Everything seems to be okay, as far as the radio goes. I dunno much about 2.15 but at least theoretically it should perform flawlessly. Try and use this combination of radio/ROM, it works for me:
Link to radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705098
Link to ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734238
Also, as I have mentioned before, make sure to manually run CLRCAD before HaRET (at least for the first time) so that you can be sure this is not causing it all. Keep me posted, I look forward to hearing from you.

Does Android require root?

The phone isn't mine. It is a lady friend of mine and I'm just curious if it would run on the default OS because her phone isn't rooted and I don't want to root her phone for insurance purposes.
If it can run on it is it the same process as doing it on a Touch Pro? I used to have a Touch Pro and it was as simple as putting the downloaded files on the memory card and launching Haret.exe so I do have some experience with Android on Windows builds.

Some people reported that it does run on the defaul OS. But you still have to flash HSPL and I think you'll maybe need an other radio like 2.12 or 2.14.

JanssoN said:
Some people reported that it does run on the defaul OS. But you still have to flash HSPL and I think you'll maybe need an other radio like 2.12 or 2.14.
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Thanks... I guess I'll have to void it and if anything tell her I can flash it back to normal if anything happens to it.

Yes, I think you'll have to but flashing back and gettin it to factory settings is easy.. so you don't have to hesitate if you know what you are doin.
Edit: Chance to brick it actually is very small, just be shure you don't use a radio with .51 then is everything ok

JanssoN said:
Yes, I think you'll have to but flashing back and gettin it to factory settings is easy.. so you don't have to hesitate if you know what you are doin.
Edit: Chance to brick it actually is very small, just be shure you don't use a radio with .51 then is everything ok
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What the hack are you talking about first you don't need hspl to run android from sd. Just the radio has to be higher than 2.08. You get this if you update your phone tothe latest version. For United states people you can do it on t-mobile site as far as I know. For evry other user the htc site should work.

jan-willem3 said:
What the hack are you talking about first you don't need hspl to run android from sd. Just the radio has to be higher than 2.08. You get this if you update your phone tothe latest version. For United states people you can do it on t-mobile site as far as I know. For evry other user the htc site should work.
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I'm pretty sure you need HSPL for flashing another radio, but that it is possible to do it on the HTC odr T-Mobile site I didn't knew. So sorry for my ignorance

JanssoN said:
I'm pretty sure you need HSPL for flashing another radio, but that it is possible to do it on the HTC odr T-Mobile site I didn't knew. So sorry for my ignorance
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Sorry I maybe was a little bit rude to you
Maybe it was because it looks like bad news for our great devices wich it isn't
HTC just released an update for all other versions except the t-mobile version. Wich the latest radio 2.15. As far as I know t-mobile roms had always higher than 2.08. And with latest updates it is 2.12 I tought.
But you are right for flashing another radio.

jan-willem3 said:
Sorry I maybe was a little bit rude to you
Maybe it was because it looks like bad news for our great devices wich it isn't
HTC just released an update for all other versions except the t-mobile version. Wich the latest radio 2.15. As far as I know t-mobile roms had always higher than 2.08. And with latest updates it is 2.12 I tought.
But you are right for flashing another radio.
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No it's okay. It's not like I would have to cry now
Well, you have to know my last visit on the HTC site is long time ago since I'm using Android on daily base and a custom WinMo ROM When I started my phone had a 2.05 radio and I didn't knew they have released such a big update. I'm not very interersted in WinMo anymore. But thanks for the update anyway.
Cheers

Thanks guys well I'll be updating her phone as I'm sure she hasn't done so at all. If I need anything else I'll post back here. I don't plan on doing it until Monday regardless so I haven't had much time with her phone.

You don't need HSPL to run Android. I don't have HSPL and I use Android every day.
Before you bother to update, turn the phone on and look next to the letter 'R' down near the bottom in red that appears before Windows loads up.
Those numbers next to the 'R' are the radio version.
If the third number is 50 (X.XX.50.XX) instead of 51 or 52 or anything else, then you don't need to update your radio or ROM or anything.
You just need a X.XX.50.XX radio.
If it's not, then yes, you'll need to update.
But after that, it's really easy.
Just download your preferred build, unzip it, and place the Android folder on the root of your sd card (inside of no folders, just on the sd card, dont put your Android folder int a folder).
I would also suggest installing in Windows Mobile the Exceller Android/Ubuntu loader. Then its easier for your lady friend to launch Android from Windows, and you can set the loader to automatically launch Android when she turns her phone on.
As far as 'root', all that means is having permission from the operating system to access and write to the root filesystem in Android. By default, users are denied access to this, and so cannot change much in Android and thats what the big deal about having root is. But guess what? These builds that run from the sd card already have root access, so you are already a step ahead of a person who goes and buys an Android native phone. They have to go through some hackery to get what we already have ;-D

Running Android on HD2 (originally WinMo 6.5 Phone) - both TMOUS and International ones - doesnt require you to have HSPL the phone (if u want to know this... for HTC warranty sake)
Android will run from your SD card. Android flavour will be rooted or mat not be rooted depends on the developer.
First unzip the Android flavour in your SD card and run android.. if there is Robo voice then its all along a different story

Update:
Well I tried using one android build with a stock HD2 with the proper radio xx.xx.50.xx etc. After the linux screen starts loading only 4 lines of text quickly flash then I'm shown an HTC logo which it gets stuck at. Any rom recommendations for stock HD2's not rooted?
Any info would be great. Thank you all for your help.

michaelm718 said:
Update:
Well I tried using one android build with a stock HD2 with the proper radio xx.xx.50.xx etc. After the linux screen starts loading only 4 lines of text quickly flash then I'm shown an HTC logo which it gets stuck at. Any rom recommendations for stock HD2's not rooted?
Any info would be great. Thank you all for your help.
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It can take a while the first time you boot sometimes... it may stay on the htc logo screen up to 15 minutes first boot depending on build, data size, and sd card speed.
Otherwise just try another build.

[Q] Clarifying Android for my HD2

Hi all,
I was wondering if you guys could help me getting Android on my HD2.
I've been digging this forum for several weeks now, there is so much information that I don't know what to do!
I've got a European HD2, not the T-Mobile one. The reason I would like to have Android running on it is because Windows 6.5 hangs quite often and it's too slow in my opinion.
After finding out how to check my SPL version, I found that I have 3.03.0000. Is it actually possible to run Android on it?
I've also seen some topics about dual boot and switching back and forth between Android and WM. That's not a requirement for me, I actually prefer just running Android without having the opportunity for WM.
Some specification which I don't know it's useful, but I'll post them anyway;
- OS Version; 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
- Manila-Version; 2.5.20181527.0
- ROM Version; 3.14.404.2 (04666) NLD
- ROM Date; 10/06/10
- Radio Version; 2.15.50.14
I would appreciate your help a lot!
Kind regards,
Jerome

Flash from SPL to HSPL might going to work, but work better with custom ROM along with the HSPL.
Some user reporting that they can run Android with their stock ROM and SPL, but I don't know. Try it. You should wait a few minute for the first boot....possible at least 5.
If it don't work, then I hope you use the statement I mention in the first sentence.

Could you tell me what do you and what SPL and HSPL is exactly?
I don't have much knowledge yet, but I'm willing to learn!
Thank you for your reply anyway!

If you are willing to learn then you best option is to actually read the threads that already exist instead of creating a pointless one.
First go into the HD2 Rom thread and learn how to get HSPL on your phone and a custom rom and updated radio.
After yu have done that come back to the Android sections and learn how to boot android.

First.. Check what ROM you have currently. By the looks of it with radio 2.15.50 you look to have the latest ROM from HTC installed. Unfortunately there is no HSPL Software for the latest ROM from HTC so you will have to downgrade your rom which will let you use HSPL3 (Linkage)
SPL is the "software" on your phone that stops you flashing non HTC Roms. You use a utility called HSPL (above) to install HSPL on your phone to enable you to flash a custom rom.
Once you have HSPL on you can them flash a custom rom from the forums. I use the OzDroid 1.11 as it has been very stable at running android.
Once that is Flashed to your phone you will need to choose which android version you require. I use MDJ FroYo HD V4.3. Download it and copy the ANDROID folder onto your SD Card.
Re-boot OzDroid and you will be presented with the Choose screen. Windows or Droid. Select Android and it will boot into android. You will need to wait 5-15 mins for android to boot on first run.
Hope this helps.

TheATHEiST said:
If you are willing to learn then you best option is to actually read the threads that already exist instead of creating a pointless one.
First go into the HD2 Rom thread and learn how to get HSPL on your phone and a custom rom and updated radio.
After yu have done that come back to the Android sections and learn how to boot android.
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man its not that easy, if someone has little background knowledge in all this all the unfamiliar information and new terms can be too confusing. Sometimes you just have to ask questions...
...although i do understand that there are probably thousands of posts started by asking the same exact questions ("which is the best android rom for HD2")and that can actually make it that much harder to wrap ones head around.

Do you need WM ROM, or can u run just Android?
TheATHEiST said:
If you are willing to learn then you best option is to actually read the threads that already exist instead of creating a pointless one.
First go into the HD2 Rom thread and learn how to get HSPL on your phone and a custom rom and updated radio.
After yu have done that come back to the Android sections and learn how to boot android.
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Q: Do you have to load a "custom rom", I assume you mean WM ROM?
Isn't there a way to load Android straight onto the EPROM Memory of your phone, so that only Android runs and not the full WM in the background? Surely that would save RAM and battery?
I found this thread useful, also trying to wade thru the info.
Thanks

farcry27 said:
Q: Do you have to load a "custom rom", I assume you mean WM ROM?
Isn't there a way to load Android straight onto the EPROM Memory of your phone, so that only Android runs and not the full WM in the background? Surely that would save RAM and battery?
I found this thread useful, also trying to wade thru the info.
Thanks
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no there isnt a way to do this yet without WM on the phone as well.
however, the "full WM" is not running in the background, its just needed to get the linux module started and then boot Android. Nothing is really "running in the background" but it is running from the sd card.
hope some of this helps.

dezaras6 said:
no there isnt a way to do this yet without WM on the phone as well.
however, the "full WM" is not running in the background, its just needed to get the linux module started and then boot Android. Nothing is really "running in the background" but it is running from the sd card.
hope some of this helps.
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there then a way to get both android and WM on the ROM of the HD2. Since its about 512MB, there won't be space for much else, but that should save the battery, since android wont be running from the SD card.

5haddex;
Thank you so incredible much on helping me here! I've got OzDroid running now, it looks awesome already, now I need to find my preferred Android built, but that shouldn't be a problem.
Again, thank you so much!

I've got OzDroid up and running now, works great too!
But when I try to boot into Android with the provided CleanDROID, or with CLRCAD and hared, the phone hangs after showing the command line;
Jumping into custom kernel...
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Even when I let the phone untouched for 6 hours, it won't do anything.
I've tried several Android builds, also trying to "repair" startup.txt with CleanDROID which gives me an error too.
Any thoughts? Maybe try another custom rom? Any tips or links on that one?
Cheers
edit;
what about the EnergyROM with Sense 2.5 Reference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8581816&postcount=3

Anybody please?

I would appreciate your help a lot!
Different Android builds don't fix the problem too. HSPL 2.08 running..

I've changed my radio to 2.10, the HD2 proceeds to the HTC booting logo, but stays there for an hour now...
Any ideas?