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Anyone else's rear bottom plastic ill fitting?

This is literally the only thing I don't like about the phone. On my ~3 day old ATT Nexus One, the right side (When looking at the screen), on the side, the plastic is just loose enough that your fingernail can catch it. It seems insanely minor, but it's a huge annoyance because that's where your fingers rest, so it's constant sharp plastic edge.
Is there any way to remove and refit it, or maybe order a replacement cover? It's the plastic part with "HTC" on it. I really don't want to fight with HTC over a return for such a niggling issue

Mine was, sent it to HTC and they sorted it. Looking at the tear down pics, it wouldn't be hard to DIY it.

Rusty! said:
Mine was, sent it to HTC and they sorted it. Looking at the tear down pics, it wouldn't be hard to DIY it.
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Exactly. I'm torn as to rather I want to screw with it myself or go through the hassle of sending it in. Did they just send you a new phone and a box to return your old one, or did you have to actually send it in for repair?

I sent it to them (well, they collected it), had it for a few days and returned it. Not a replacement, which I was happy with as my unit appears to be a goodun.

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I sent it to them (well, they collected it), had it for a few days and returned it. Not a replacement, which I was happy with as my unit appears to be a goodun.
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Yeah, but I sold my iPhone already and can't really be phoneless for a few days

You might be able to get an advance replacement if you ask. Or Google for the tear down, it pops off.

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You might be able to get an advance replacement if you ask. Or Google for the tear down, it pops off.
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Yeah, I saw the teardown vid, seems to just pull off with enough force, I'm just unsure if I can make it any better. I'll wait and see if anyone has DIY'ed it

Same problem here, I thought I was the only one. =) I agree that it's really minor, but if it's something that could be fixed that would be nice.

Mine sticks out on the right side, too. NBD for me, but that's odd.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one too. In the teardown vid on youtube they just pull it off with a plastic iphone tool. I'm kinda tempted to try, and see if I can tell what's making it do that.

i have this issue too. to me, it's a minor cosmetic issue. and how will you know that the one they send you doesn't also have that issue?

My beef is the glass on the screen sits just below the sides of the metal.. leaving a sharp ledge on both sides of the screen where it should be flush

vexingv said:
i have this issue too. to me, it's a minor cosmetic issue. and how will you know that the one they send you doesn't also have that issue?
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Exactly, hence my hesitation to try to warranty it.

I had a chance to look at several at&t N1s and I noticed this too. The bottom part on about half of them had a larger gap than there should have been. Hopefully it's easy to DIY fix.

How can AT&T N1s be different from T-Mobile one's exactly? There all being made by HTC, just of course with different radios.. why would there be cosmetic differences..? I didn't know carriers had an input in how [HTC] made their phones.. if you know what I mean.

Eclair~ said:
How can AT&T N1s be different from T-Mobile one's exactly? There all being made by HTC, just of course with different radios.. why would there be cosmetic differences..? I didn't know carriers had an input in how [HTC] made their phones.. if you know what I mean.
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It's possible that the t-mobile ones had the same problem. Luckily my phone hasn't had any problems really. But it's also possible for the manufacturer to make small adjustments on their lines to increase efficiency, that's why different batches/serial numbers come out screwy sometimes.

Just got my Epic :) Now what?

Ok, Just got my epic in the mail. It's charging as I type. I ordered a Realook screen protector immediately and I'll probably keep the one that ships with it on there until that one comes in.
So my question is...What should I do first? I want to customize it as much as possible to keep the battery life as long as possible. Should I root it? What roms do you guys recommend? I'm waiting on a case with a kickstand to come out...so i'll baby it for the first month I guess.

Definitely Root it!!! So many benfits with rooting (Free Wifi Tether,No ADS, Custom roms, Kernals, Get rid of crapware like sprint stuff and more.
Im running andromeda rom with andomeda kernal. I couldnt be happier.

This might be a silly question but if I root it before I activate it will that affect the activation process?
The reason I ask is because I don't have a screen protector yet so I was just going to continue using my other phone until it came in. I know its ridiculous, but I just want to make sure I don't give myself any opportunity to scratch the screen on this expensive phone.
So I'll just play with it until I can actually start making phone calls. Hilarious...adults with their toys.

Just realize the epic uses Gorilla glass.. Unless you continually drop stuff and try hard to scratch the screen your not going to be able to.

Envynet said:
Just realize the epic uses Gorilla glass..
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Do you happen to have a respectable source on that one? I have heard that it does, it doesn't, it might and really would just like to know for certain.
Thanks

search for gorilla glass on youtube.

1st?? Why not make sure the phone works as advertised? My suggestion is to check how the well your GPS and other features actually work. Once you get a good feel for the phone, then the rooting should start...

crabjoe said:
1st?? Why not make sure the phone works as advertised? My suggestion is to check how the well your GPS and other features actually work. Once you get a good feel for the phone, then the rooting should start...
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I am so accustomed to rooting, modding, or putting a rom on every smart phone I have ever had that it only seems natural to start that way from the get go. Besides, I'm fairly confidant that stock performance is going to pale in comparison to what I'll see once I've customized it a bit.
But, you are right I'll give it a go stock for a little bit (a day ?) to get a feel for the device before I start slicing and dicing it.

063_XOBX said:
Do you happen to have a respectable source on that one? I have heard that it does, it doesn't, it might and really would just like to know for certain.
Thanks
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http://www.corning.com/gorillaglass/devices.aspx
It states plainly that the Galaxy S has gorilla glass, so I think we can safely say that the Epic has it since the Galaxy S is AKA the Epic.
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Just realize the epic uses Gorilla glass.. Unless you continually drop stuff and try hard to scratch the screen your not going to be able to.
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So, I understand that Gorilla glass is supposed to make this thing nearly indestructible, but I've read around these very forums that people are still getting scratches on the screen. Might as well protect my expensive overpriced phone....Sometimes I think who the heck cares since I have insurance and why bother with a case either?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-EPIC-PH...772937?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c57c02bc9
Getting this cheapo ebay case for the time being until they release a functional case with a kickstand that I like. I read a review on this site here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797833 that gave me some hope in buying the triangular shape case. *Crosses Thumbs* Hoping it will hold me over.

I scratched my screen within a week of getting the phone. I customarily leave my keys in the same pocket as my phone. I did this for 2 years w/ an iphone and didn't have a single scratch so i figured the epic would fare similarly. 1 week and there were little micro scratches all over the epics screen. I had other problems with that phone so sprint exchanged it for another one and i promptly got a screen protector. Hopefully i'm the exception and not the rule.

houkah said:
I scratched my screen within a week of getting the phone. I customarily leave my keys in the same pocket as my phone. I did this for 2 years w/ an iphone and didn't have a single scratch so i figured the epic would fare similarly. 1 week and there were little micro scratches all over the epics screen. I had other problems with that phone so sprint exchanged it for another one and i promptly got a screen protector. Hopefully i'm the exception and not the rule.
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I do the exact same thing...I constantly put my phone in my pocket with my car keys. I notice every little scratch...they gnaw at my subconscious even when i'm not using the phone lol. I thought the Iphone and epic both had gorilla glass...odd that you would scratch one and not the other under similar circumstances.

If times get desperate, you could always trade it for crack...
Just kidding!
I haven't been a smartass in the forums for a while, so I couldn't resist!
Use it dude! Don't put it on your mantle and worship it while burning incense and chanting, USE IT. Lol

herbthehammer said:
If times get desperate, you could always trade it for crack...
Just kidding!
I haven't been a smartass in the forums for a while, so I couldn't resist!
Use it dude! Don't put it on your mantle and worship it while burning incense and chanting, USE IT. Lol
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haha....I wasn't going to burn incense...just chant and worship. I'm trying to get a mini keyless remote for it, so I can leave it out with no fear

houkah said:
I scratched my screen within a week of getting the phone. I customarily leave my keys in the same pocket as my phone. I did this for 2 years w/ an iphone and didn't have a single scratch so i figured the epic would fare similarly. 1 week and there were little micro scratches all over the epics screen. I had other problems with that phone so sprint exchanged it for another one and i promptly got a screen protector. Hopefully i'm the exception and not the rule.
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You sir fail I know for a fact that this would scratch the iFails screen. Who in their right mind would keep their keys in the same pocket as their phone?

Zzim said:
You sir fail I know for a fact that this would scratch the iFails screen. Who in their right mind would keep their keys in the same pocket as their phone?
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Sorry man, it's the truth. I'm not flaming the phone or anything, and i'm pretty sure my experience is a rare one. But yes. I'm a fool who keeps his keys in the same pocket as his phone. Miraculously there were no scratches on the iphone3g after about 1.75 years. In case you think i'm somehow trolling the epic you need to realize i disliked everything else about the iphone and even paid the early termination fee to switch to the epic. BTW beside that one negative experience w/ the scratch and wobbly screen (the same unit) i love this phone.
So back on topic. I recommend a screen protector of some sort.

make a phone call? Congrats on your new phone! you'll be satisfied!

bomix said:
make a phone call? Congrats on your new phone! you'll be satisfied!
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You know I've waited this long for this phone...I think I can hold out another few days before my screen protector comes in.
I'm probably going to root it today...I'll ask again does anyone know if rooting will hinder activating this phone?
Otherwise, I'm just using it as a PMP for now .

Rooting won't hinder activation, however using an aosp rom might. So if u just root and use noobs rom or just leave it stock rom u will be fine.
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ravizzle said:
Rooting won't hinder activation, however using an aosp rom might. So if u just root and use noobs rom or just leave it stock rom u will be fine.
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Thanks! I might just wait then to activate it first before rooting because the main reason I wanted to root is to install a custom kernal/rom.
Battery life sucks on stock so far by the way...I'm getting about 7 hours a day with light usuage before I have to recharge. Admittedly, I have not done much to tweak it, but its a shame that a stock offering from sprint can't hold a whole days charge. I mean what if I wasn't as inclined to rooting/tweaking...I would have to live with the phone like this? Definitely, unacceptable. If I don't see at least a days charge with some light usage on a custom rom/kernal I might consider waiting for another droid phone with a better battery life. I have read some positive results from people with custom roms achieving the battery life I'm looking for so I'm hopeful.

Broken screen

Hey yall nothing special but I reancently drop my phone 1 too many time and crack the screen. Does anyone happen to know what phone I get as a replacement from assurion. I've heard people geting the EVO 3d. I have the white version of the EVO now and seems so slipery when I pull it out of my pocket. Also anything special I should do I had it, but i already flash it back to stock non rooted.
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You may get an Evo as a replacement; the 3D if they're out of stock.

Evo4g is what you get
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If it's slippery, get a case.

I would suggest buying an otterbox for your new phone either way. It might be expensive but ive had my evo since release and my brother (ever since I got the case) thought it would be funny to show everyone who saw it and says "look! its indestructable" :\ Ass! You might also find that you can actually salvage it by buying a new lcd screen and digitizer glass for under 70.00 on ebay! just tell your carrier you lost it! you pay the same premium regaurdless if you have insurance! then you can turn it around and sell it as refurbished! Keep in mind some skill and technical knowlege of the EVO might be required along with tools if it is not included!

What's crazy is, my wife's Evo has had two cracked screens and every time we took them to the Sprint stores, they only charged us 25 dollars for a replacement Evo (Just the body, no battery/case/sd card/accessories). Are they not doing this anymore?

I've head my screen replaced countless times by sprint (with root) for free.
Edit: not to mention speakers replaced, bezel, camera lenses. All free. Never unrooted my phone, ever. Same root from day after launch.
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How many *is* countless?
I'm not trying to be flip, I think it's an important point (only semi-related to the OP, but definitely something that occurred to me lately) : if you're having to replace that many things on your phone, that doesn't reflect well on the build quality of the phone.
My observation, from this and other remarks on XDA, as well as my own experience (below) is that Evo's tend to break a lot. Probably less than other brands, and possibly less than other HTC phones, but probably more than certain other phones also (dare I mention the iPhone or is that just going to get me banned on XDA?)
On my original Evo, which I had less than a year, I had to replace the camera lens cover, the internal ear piece speaker (not the speakerphone speaker) and the digitizer. The last one I took to a Sprint store - 35 bucks was pretty reasonable, but they don't just replace a digitizer, they also swap out a whole assembly from some other returned phone including someone else's glass, LCD, and bezel. The other two jobs I did myself using parts I got on Ebay. I thought I did a good job too until, a few months after I did the speaker, the screen started acting funny and I realized I had screwed it together oh-so-slightly wrong and torqued the motherboard just a little. The problem got progressively worse and I finally had to buy a replacement Evo on Ebay. So much for saving a buck going the DIY route.
And those are just the problems I was able to solve. I also had to live with the famous crack in the bezel near the volume button, various dings in the relatively soft plastic of the bezel, and a down-volume button that just stopped working (too much use in recovery sessions I guess? )
Evo's *feel* pretty solid, and they're definitely not cheap plastic toys, but I don't remember having these problems with the fruit flavored phone I used to have.
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My few is everytime I take it out of my pocket... Oh well geting a purple 3d so can't complain too much besides being purple
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VenomousViper said:
Keep in mind some skill and technical knowlege of the EVO might be required along with tools if it is not included!
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just remeber guys/gals I did say you would have to have the specifications. tourque specs is a large portion of this BEFORE you finish your work. This is a highly complicated peice of technology and any wrong tweeking might cause you to screw up your phone. I suggest addiquate research before you attempt any repairs to your phone Also, there have been some instances where the carrier WILL NOT work on your phone if they deam that you have voided the warrenty. I have had this problem before. Again, it is really up to the shop if they want to fix it. Do this at your own risk.

VenomousViper said:
just remeber guys/gals I did say you would have to have the specifications. tourque specs is a large portion of this BEFORE you finish your work. This is a highly complicated peice of technology and any wrong tweeking might cause you to screw up your phone. I suggest addiquate research before you attempt any repairs to your phone Also, there have been some instances where the carrier WILL NOT work on your phone if they deam that you have voided the warrenty. I have had this problem before. Again, it is really up to the shop if they want to fix it. Do this at your own risk.
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Well, yes, it is a calculated risk. The old rule applies : don't gamble if you can't afford to lose.
To me, it's just a phone, so I gambled (and lost). I survived just fine, but I agree that not everyone would/should make the same choice.
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OK. So it wasn't countless.
But
3 screen (2 my fault and 1 the tech installed wrong - about to go for a 4th screen cuz I recently dropped and cracked it again, but this time it's not shattered)
2 or 3 external speakers
2 cam lens covers
And 1 badly dinged bezel (that I didn't even ask for, they did it while replacing the screen)
Never had to pay a dime.
I think the build quality is great. Maybe they could use a better speaker, but I think I was using a kernel with audio gains when it blew (i.e. my fault).
Busted screens were obviously my fault.
And HTC has GOT to find a way to protect camera lenses better. I had camera scratches on my HTC diamond, too, but all the Evo and newer HTCs have an even less protected lens.
I never unrooted. I usually try to make it look sorta stock, though. But the last time I brought it in with ICS, and even had ROM toolbox right on my homescreen lol
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Is it safe to buy a nexus 7 yet ?

I had one with screen raise ... otherwise great. I don't want the hassle of endless refund cycles.
So, for new (or recent) orders from the Play store which I am assuming is the fastest clearing channel... do they still have the screen lift problem.
i.e. has the hardware been rev'd yet ? Anyone with a recent delivery know....

I just got my replacement today. I don't want to speak too soon but it's been out of the box for about 2 hrs and hey it looks fine right now. I'm gonna charge it and use it a little and see if anything pops up so to say and I'll update later tonight.
Edit: I wish there was a way to tell the hardware revision if there is one at all. I might crack these both open before I send my other one back and see if I can spot any differences.

I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.

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I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.

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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.

Got my second unit Wednesday. It has screen lift as well.
I would definitely advise against buying retail, but I think Google can be trusted. I'm just going to hold onto this defective one for a month or two. Then I'll ask for a replacement.
No regrets, although I was pretty miffed about opening a new one with the same flaw when it happened.

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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
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Did I say it would bork the device....no. If you want to use it with the screen lift good for you.

Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....

tribestros said:
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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i got a cherry 87 buick I would like to sell you
Maybe your right, my touchscreen stopped working after use and the screen lift. I guess I should have kept it

I bought mine retail from Office Depot on 7/17 and haven't had a single problem with it.

In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google

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In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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Careful with buying in store. It may not be considered a fault (for the reasons expressed elsewhere in this thread) and if you do not have UK DSR law then you may not be able (allowed) to make a return. I wouldn't fancy my chances in CPW or Currys of doing a return if the device is functioning (but just not quite flush).

Most UK retailers allow you to return for simply not liking the product. In Tesco the guy told me it didn't matter if it was faulty as it was within their X days return. They'll be selling them in store in a couple of weeks apparently.
tribestos, fail to see how OCD relates to finding a fault on a piece of hardware. It's not like people are obsessively looking for faults. The screen isn't supposed to lift but it does. That's a design flaw.

So somebody must be taking the hit for all the returns... is it the retailer or do they just return the units back to the manufacturer and not pay for the duff ones ?

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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
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The replacement 7s poll has gotten sunnier, although people are voting prematurely. Also, it's not public, but I don't think many would tamper with it.
Although I have not seen a unit without this defect, there are at least a few posters there who should know exactly what to look for and haven't found any separation in their replacement whatsoever. That's a good sign, and that poll was pretty ugly last Wednesday, so the vast majority of respondents since then have been ticking perfect.
As for when this flaw will be officially dealt with, probably never. But don't hold that against Google. They can make right by rooting out the manufacturing flaw and dealing with unsatisfied customers on an individual basis. No need for any headlines.

Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).

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Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.

tribestros said:
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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You have that choice. But when I spend my money on something I expect it to be built w/o flaws. Hope the glass dont fall out on you when the screws get to lose! Oh you wont care tho it will still be irrelevant right?

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Yeah, I hope she wasn't blowing smoke up my butt. That happens too. But I figure with the 16GB Nexus 7 suddenly returning to the Play store and the CS telling me this, it's hopefully correct.

Is it worth the risk ?

Hey guys...this is my first post in here, so please go easy on me. So, i have been in love with The nexus 7 since the day it was released. I have seen all kind of videos/reviews and thought that it is a perfect fit for me. But what i'm scared about is the durability of Nexus 7's screen. I have been hovering over Xda and specially in the Nexus 7 forum and found a lot of criticism regarding its screen cracks and poor build quality.
The thing is I live in Bangladesh, where i wont be able to enjoy any warranties or guarantees(actually I will get a one-day replacement warranty and that's it). Also, it is highly likely that i wont find the necessary equipment to fix it myself. I found only a single case cover for the Nexus which is the poetic brand slimline(Is that any good ? ). Nexus 7 16Gb version costs around $320 here
All this makes me doubt to purchase the awesome gadget and rather settle for the sub-standard Galaxy tab 2 7.0 3G which costs around the same.
But then again...i feel like I wont be able to happily enjoy any other set as i have been in love with Nexus 7 for the last 6 months. So, as u guys can seen that i'm real in pickle. So any advice will go a long way for me. Is Nexus 7 really worth the risk ?
Thanks.

Just don't drop it, any screen can crack that way. Also get a screen protector, the glass does scratch relatively easy.

Fun story. I got an 8gb nexus from the first batch that were made. But I don't currently live in the US, so I ran a huge gamble by ordering one and having my family send it out to me in Asia. Worked *perfectly* until I went back to the US for Thanksgiving. Then, somehow, I blew out the speaker. I was able to get in touch with Google and get it swapped out in under a week, returned to Asia with my new 8GB (no magic upgrade, drat) and we've been happy ever since.
I don't think it's really any risk. The majority who complain about the nexus are a minority of the owners.

Also keep in mind you will hear more horror stories from pissed off owners than stories of folks reporting zero issues
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nisamtetreb said:
Just don't drop it, any screen can crack that way. Also get a screen protector, the glass does scratch relatively easy.
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Well...yeah i do know that but still scared to find cracked screen appearing without any reason.
Sharpen3d said:
Fun story. I got an 8gb nexus from the first batch that were made. But I don't currently live in the US, so I ran a huge gamble by ordering one and having my family send it out to me in Asia. Worked *perfectly* until I went back to the US for Thanksgiving. Then, somehow, I blew out the speaker. I was able to get in touch with Google and get it swapped out in under a week, returned to Asia with my new 8GB (no magic upgrade, drat) and we've been happy ever since.
I don't think it's really any risk. The majority who complain about the nexus are a minority of the owners.
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Aah how I wish I could have that opportunity of returning it, if any problem arises. Thank for sharing your story
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Also keep in mind you will hear more horror stories from pissed off owners than stories of folks reporting zero issues
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Well that is true and reassuring.

I'd say go for it. As for screen cracking for "no reason", I always wonder just how much truth there is to those stories. I've been perfectly happy with my nexus 7, and it has none of the "so common" problems.
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95Z28 said:
I'd say go for it. As for screen cracking for "no reason", I always wonder just how much truth there is to those stories. I've been perfectly happy with my nexus 7, and it has none of the "so common" problems.
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My friend got his 16gig N7 the day it came out and has had zero hardware issues with it. Gotta give credit to magiconthetire as well, he hit the nail on the head. When things go wrong it's the end of the world. But when things go right, you won't even know anything is happening at all.
Also I picked up the Poetic Slim case you mentioned and I really like it. The only draw back is how close the case comes to the bezel on the edges of the screen; if you have big hands or don't hit the bottom navigation bar or top notification bar at the right angle...the case sort of gets in the way. My solution to that is using a stylus for more accurate precision. The stylus also makes typing significantly easier, especially if you use gesture typing such as Swype, SwiftKey Flow, etc.

OP if you know someone you trust in Europe, USA, or even Australia. Get them to buy the tablet for you and ship it out to you. Even with shipping it will be a lot less than $320, if it breaks for something that is under warranty send it back to them and they can return it for repairs.
Cheers Danny

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My friend got his 16gig N7 the day it came out and has had zero hardware issues with it. Gotta give credit to magiconthetire as well, he hit the nail on the head. When things go wrong it's the end of the world. But when things go right, you won't even know anything is happening at all.
Also I picked up the Poetic Slim case you mentioned and I really like it. The only draw back is how close the case comes to the bezel on the edges of the screen; if you have big hands or don't hit the bottom navigation bar or top notification bar at the right angle...the case sort of gets in the way. My solution to that is using a stylus for more accurate precision. The stylus also makes typing significantly easier, especially if you use gesture typing such as Swype, SwiftKey Flow, etc.
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Thanks. Could u tell me a bit more about the case. I have read some reviews and found out that their cover wears a bit after a couple of weeks. Is that true and about the stylus.....could u kindly recommend me one ? Thanks again
toidimaet said:
OP if you know someone you trust in Europe, USA, or even Australia. Get them to buy the tablet for you and ship it out to you. Even with shipping it will be a lot less than $320, if it breaks for something that is under warranty send it back to them and they can return it for repairs.
Cheers Danny
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Sadly, not a single person is willing to take that minute hassle.

Excellent protection: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970566

Farhad1909 said:
Thanks. Could u tell me a bit more about the case. I have read some reviews and found out that their cover wears a bit after a couple of weeks. Is that true and about the stylus.....could u kindly recommend me one ? Thanks again
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I've only had mine for a couple of weeks and so far no issues here. This is under pretty heavy use as well, as I take my Nexus 7 with me everywhere that I go. The case works really well though, it has a snug fit on the N7 so it doesn't move around inside of it at all, the smart cover that turns the screen on when you open the flap back has worked flawlessly, the hand strap for the back is really nice for using it in portrait mode while laying in bed or for just holding it up during prolonged periods, and the landscape stand is a little tricky to figure out at fist...but works just fine once you figure it out. I'd recommend some kind of sound toggle app for your notification bar as well, because the case does make it a bit of a pain to reach the physical buttons. But that's not really Poetic's fault, the way the buttons angle down with the curve of the backside of the tablet makes them kind of annoying for any case that doesn't have the same slope on it.
As far as stylus' go, I heard good things about this one and it was still fairly cheap...I just got it in the mail a couple of days ago but so far, so good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MOHLVC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

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Excellent protection: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970566
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The thing is i need to wait for 3-4 months to receive any accessories for the nexus 7. So, meanwhile i need to live with the poetic brand as its the only one around.
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I've only had mine for a couple of weeks and so far no issues here. This is under pretty heavy use as well, as I take my Nexus 7 with me everywhere that I go. The case works really well though, it has a snug fit on the N7 so it doesn't move around inside of it at all, the smart cover that turns the screen on when you open the flap back has worked flawlessly, the hand strap for the back is really nice for using it in portrait mode while laying in bed or for just holding it up during prolonged periods, and the landscape stand is a little tricky to figure out at fist...but works just fine once you figure it out. I'd recommend some kind of sound toggle app for your notification bar as well, because the case does make it a bit of a pain to reach the physical buttons. But that's not really Poetic's fault, the way the buttons angle down with the curve of the backside of the tablet makes them kind of annoying for any case that doesn't have the same slope on it.
As far as stylus' go, I heard good things about this one and it was still fairly cheap...I just got it in the mail a couple of days ago but so far, so good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MOHLVC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
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Wow that was more then helpful. Thanks a lot.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D2POAS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
This is the case I purchased. Sounds about the same as the poetic, but also includes a good screen protector.
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I have dropped mine a few times from different heights on different surfaces and its fine. But if you drop it right it will probably shatter, just get a case. Something like this if you are really clumsy.
http://www.amazon.com/Bobj-Rugged-C...3SQAI9BQY42F6&qid=1355563353&s=generic&sr=1-6
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Asus have international warranty for it.
Beamed from my Maguro.

If you ever want to buy a case throughout the internet I'd be more than happy to help a fellow owner out and re-ship to you!

I don't want to persuade you not to get one because I love the n7 and think everyone should have one, but i just broke my second one. My daughter dropped the first one and the corner of the screen shattered. I didn't have insurance because I've never dropped or lost a phone or laptop or anything, so it cost full price to replace it.
I had the second one in my back pocket, bent down, and screwed up the screen. My pants aren't tight but my butt put a little bit of leverage on the middle of the screen and broke it. When I turned it on later, the screen has a discolored line through it and a pattern of random lines on each side and no normal picture. The screen glass didn't crack, but the screen internals must have. I paid $50 for insurance so I hope it will be replaced with no hassle.
Long story short, I'll never use an n7 without a protective case again, and I've never used a case on any device.

Thanks a lot guys....I have taken all the advice into consideration and have found a satisfying solution. Gonna wait three months and buy through a friend in US.
Edit : How can I close the thread ?

Farhad1909 said:
Thanks a lot guys....I have taken all the advice into consideration and have found a satisfying solution. Gonna wait three months and buy through a friend in US.
Edit : How can I close the thread ?
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The thread will close its self or help some one else ..
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