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Story on Engadget about the screen coming loose

Mine apparently is doing it also I didnt notice it until I looked in the dark. Mines mild right now, but its def coming up...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-glass-separation-issues/

psufan5 said:
Mine apparently is doing it also I didnt notice it until I looked in the dark. Mines mild right now, but its def coming up...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-glass-separation-issues/
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not a big surprise. probably exactly the same crappy screen adhesion problems that were leading to all the dust under the nexus screens... :/

mine is starting to do it as well, I can feel it slightly raised above the bezel

What problems will manifest due to this problem?
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What problems will manifest due to this problem?
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Dust under the screen. And you can see light leaking out of the bottom of the phone
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Wow this is totally sh*tty
I just placed my order for the Evo and should be receiving it sometime this week.
I am wondering if maybe keeping the phone in a tight-fitting silicone case might help to reduce any possible "DISPLACEMENT" of the screen

glad to see this is getting media attention. i'm sick of htc and their crappy quality control. i went through this whole thing with my hero already...
and yes, my screen is coming apart too. it definitely wasn't like that when i got it last week.

redrazr7791 said:
Wow this is totally sh*tty
I just placed my order for the Evo and should be receiving it sometime this week.
I am wondering if maybe keeping the phone in a tight-fitting silicone case might help to reduce any possible "uprising" of the screen
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Yeah can't have the screen gathering up and revolting

mrono said:
Yeah can't have the screen gathering up and revolting
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I couldn't think of another word to use
If HTC continues to mass produce phones that fall apart because of faulty manufacturing...then the customers just might revolt

Dang it!!! mine starting to raise up as well I love this phone and Sprint service but I'm afraid the problem will worsen up as the time passes. I'm not the type to switch devices after every new released and perfer to hang to something until I feel it's not doing what I ask it to (still have HTC Uni, 8525, Treo 750 and Axim x51v).
This and the 30 fps capped is my only main concern about this phone, especially this screen separation (more light leakage or dust problem). The rest of the problem doesn't really bother me much such as the laggy touch input, improperly grounded screen and other problem doesn't apply to my device.
Is it worth the hassel of exchanging it hoping to get one without the screen separation or do they all have this problem? I'm hoping the newer hardware version (version 3) doesn't have this sort of problem, mine is hardware version 2. What you guys think?

I have been noticing more and more light leaking. I thought at first I was maybe just getting paranoid (still possible) but I saw a line about 1.5 cm long along the lower left side last night... That was definitely not there before.
What should I do? Would getting the TEP plan be prudent at this point, to cover this issue if/when it gets worse? Or would be the kind of thing HTC would be more... lenient about replacements?

Think the hairdryer method will work like it did on the Nexus? My nexus had this issue and the hairdryer method fixed it up permanently.

booloobunny said:
Think the hairdryer method will work like it did on the Nexus? My nexus had this issue and the hairdryer method fixed it up permanently.
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Doesn't hurt to try. If it worked on the NX-1, it might work again

redrazr7791 said:
Wow this is totally sh*tty
I just placed my order for the Evo and should be receiving it sometime this week.
I am wondering if maybe keeping the phone in a tight-fitting silicone case might help to reduce any possible "DISPLACEMENT" of the screen
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I know this is off topic but...
How are you getting yours that fast? Where did you order from

booloobunny said:
Think the hairdryer method will work like it did on the Nexus? My nexus had this issue and the hairdryer method fixed it up permanently.
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Yeah I actually just tried this and it worked pretty well only a little of leakage left, I figure I'll seal it up some more when I have the time and Im pretty sure I did not hold it down long enough to let it cool effectively. but the parts that are still down work like a charm. way better than having to go back, lose all your apps, headaches of customer service, etc.

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Dust under the screen. And you can see light leaking out of the bottom of the phone
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So this is the reason I see light under the buttons when their off and the screen is off, and its dark in the room? because my screen seems to be holding up well, and I have it in my pocket all day, no case or screen protectors. then again, I haven't been messing with it, trying to apply things or mods to it.

Hair dryer, bubble gum, tape and what else?! These are high-end devices (Evo Nexus One, etc) and they should NOT need a MacGyver handbook to keep them together after days of ownership. HTC needs to do right by us from the design stage period!

Dear Babies,
This is a site about hacking phones. Stop *****ing and use your brains for a change. Get some black silicon caulk from Lowes. Rub a small small amount in the crack where the buttons meet the case where the light leaks. Congratulations, your phone can now be left in the desert for 10 years and nothing will get through that seam including light... I swear, you guys can spend all day rooting phones but cant use some damn common sense to fix the hardware itself. I had tons of light leakage when i got the phone. Zero now, and you cant tell i did anything to it.

AshMa said:
HTC needs to do right by us from the design stage period!
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This is very true, but there seems to be a gray area when it comes to (S*** HAPPENS and a bug that can be fixed)... And it seems to get grayer everyday.....

hair dryer seems to have worked fine on my evo

Will Tmo replace my Vibrant with scratched screen ?

Noticed today that screen is scratched even though i have never dropped my phone and was very careful.....will tmo make the switch if i ***** about gps and lag ?

kolyan said:
Noticed today that screen is scratched even though i have never dropped my phone and was very careful.....will tmo make the switch if i ***** about gps and lag ?
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No.
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kolyan said:
Noticed today that screen is scratched even though i have never dropped my phone and was very careful.....will tmo make the switch if i ***** about gps and lag ?
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do you have anything else worng with it? rattling volume buttons? i returned mine for that... i would say maybe if you try and brick it and say that you loaded something from your cpu to the phone and it turned off and never came back on might work

skater4690 said:
do you have anything else worng with it? rattling volume buttons? i returned mine for that... i would say maybe if you try and brick it and say that you loaded something from your cpu to the phone and it turned off and never came back on might work
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volume buttons do rattle...and usb slide is a bit broken

if you just complain about GPS they will tell you an exchange won't solve the issue so you will have to wait until update. If there is anything else wrong, yes they will replace it, they won;t care about scratches since it is from normal use (u said u didn't drop it)

skater4690 said:
do you have anything else worng with it? rattling volume buttons? i returned mine for that... i would say maybe if you try and brick it and say that you loaded something from your cpu to the phone and it turned off and never came back on might work
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kolyan said:
Noticed today that screen is scratched even though i have never dropped my phone and was very careful.....will tmo make the switch if i ***** about gps and lag ?
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No, you should be careful with your phone
it's not T-Mo's fault you scratched the damn thing, and returning it for no reason at all just drives prices up for people that are honest.

hydrogenman said:
No, you should be careful with your phone
it's not T-Mo's fault you scratched the damn thing, and returning it for no reason at all just drives prices up for people that are honest.
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Can you read? The person posting this thread already stated they are very careful with the phone and never droped it.
It is possible the phone was already scratched when he/she purchased it.

SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Can you read? The person posting this thread already stated they are very careful with the phone and never droped it.
It is possible the phone was already scratched when he/she purchased it.
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Getting an exchange because you have a scratch on your screen? What? If he actually told them that's why he wanted an exchange he wouldn't be getting one so that's why hes asking a story to tell them. They won't exchange it because the screen is scratched, or because the GPS doesn't work.

Can you post a pic of the scratched screen, I dont use screen protectors and its been Impossible to scratch mine, So I would like to see a pic.

This is why you don't place your phone facedown or put it in a pocket with keys or change.. and most of all.. don't ever let a drunken grizzly bear with tourettes use your Vibrant.

A friend of mine got his screen scratched when his wife used his phone and her diamond earring put a small but noticeable gash on it

I don't use a screen protector either. No scratches this puppies tough.
I also have my right pocket dedicated to my phone and only my phone. Everything else goes in the left. Soon it'll be second nature and you will never put your phone in your pocket with stuff.
If TW as a scratch its from neglect. I baby mine and unless I drop it or put it in a full pocket, I'm golden...
And I never let anyone use mu 500 dollar phone.. no way no how..

Rizz good to know.. I'll keep that in mind when handing this baby over to others..
My phone has been flashed more than Girls Gone Wild...

Why don't people get screen protectors? Sure the screens are scratch resistant not scratch proof. I use a realook screen protector and you cant even tell its on there. Also I carry my phone in my left pocket and my keys in my right pocket. Carrying my phone and keys in the same pocket make my pocket bulge way to much plus your more likely to scratch up your phone.

heygrl said:
Getting an exchange because you have a scratch on your screen? What? If he actually told them that's why he wanted an exchange he wouldn't be getting one so that's why hes asking a story to tell them. They won't exchange it because the screen is scratched, or because the GPS doesn't work.
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If you are withing your remorse period, you don't need permission from t-mobile to return your phone for the GPS issue. They may not exchange it for another one, because thats just silly, they all have the problem. Yet, you certainly can return it.

As I said, I have few another issues as well, but i didnt consider returning before....
I also thought that it was impossible to scratch, yet somehow i see a half inch scratch on the screen. i have body glove case as well.....

That really sucks bro, I noticed a tiny few cm long scratch on the side of my phone.. It's not that bad but it made my heart crack a little.
Using an ugly Zagg screen protector on it atm. I'm wanting to take this crap off and just be really careful with it though.

[Q] Screen Scratched?

So I just noticed a decent sized scratch on my fascinates screen.
It's in the middle of the screen, and I can feel it with a fingernail. The phone spends all day in my pocket, and I baby it, so I'm surprised. Never been dropped or anything.
Though I know it's morally ambigious, I was thinking about returning it to verizon under the guise of faulty GPS/not getting a lock so I could get a new one with a clean screen.
Anyone know of any reason this wouldn't work?
If I do this or not though, will def be getting a screen protector.

reasons it wouldn't work would be if the rep there knows the gps problem affects all fascinate units so they may only offer swapping to a different model. Also, the devilish giggling sounds you make as you try to scam them might give you away.
good luck!

Worth a shot. I'll have to return to stock and see. Nothing really to lose beyond having to re root if they say no.
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Let me know if that works lol
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UPDATE:
Returned under the guise of malfunctioning GPS, no problem at all.
She checked to see if the update had been applied though, and it was.

If I do this or not though, will def be getting a screen protector.
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On a related subject, whats the best screen protector? I would like one that covers the entire front. Also, I thought these screens were hard to scratch except with sand? I have no scratches yet.

I find this hard to believe....these phones have gorilla glass....same as iphone.....go google it and watch some youtube videos of people stabbing their phones. I will never use crappy screen protector again.....i swear they are a scam. Just my two cents.
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umm teeharding... gorilla glass isn't indestructable :/ I'd like to see a youtube video of someone rubbing sand paper on a display and then we'll talk.
how are screen protectors a scam when they tend to the need for which you bought them? sure we can say they are costly, but thats just one of those inequalities in life we should learn to deal with in a capitalistic society. :/

I can assure you that it is possible to scratch Gorilla Glass, as I did it.
What exactly did it? Couldn't tell you, but I was careless and overconfident in the GG, and had it in my pocket with keys and my headphones, and it was scratched up in a few weeks, though only one scratch was deep enough to feel with a fingernail.
Since I've gotten the new phone I decided to order the realook screen protector from amazon, and it has its own pocket, free of anything else. besides my wallet (leather, no metal or edges).
Trust me, I don't need to google the greatness of GG, I've had my own real life test done, and it failed. Phone was never dropped or handled roughly.

Yikes. Glad I got an Invisible Shield installed. So how is the new GPS? I'm considering returning mine as I also have GPS issues. It scared me when I read that it may be a hardware issue on these forums today.

poisonousjuice said:
reasons it wouldn't work would be if the rep there knows the gps problem affects all fascinate units so they may only offer swapping to a different model. Also, the devilish giggling sounds you make as you try to scam them might give you away.
good luck!
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If its a known issue with the unit it specifically means they will NOT exchange the device. And def not for another one, given its the 1st one.
You will be told to wait for them to release an update that "fixes" the issue, and at which point, it doesn't, THEN the device is swapped out, for another identical model.
You can try returning the phone at that point, and depending who you get or what not, they may waive the restock fee, especially if you point out that you're returning a phone for an issue thats CLEARLY not your problem, and mention that the rep who sold you the phone didn't point it out.

@ [OP] How did the realooks do for you?
good day.

Is it worth the risk ?

Hey guys...this is my first post in here, so please go easy on me. So, i have been in love with The nexus 7 since the day it was released. I have seen all kind of videos/reviews and thought that it is a perfect fit for me. But what i'm scared about is the durability of Nexus 7's screen. I have been hovering over Xda and specially in the Nexus 7 forum and found a lot of criticism regarding its screen cracks and poor build quality.
The thing is I live in Bangladesh, where i wont be able to enjoy any warranties or guarantees(actually I will get a one-day replacement warranty and that's it). Also, it is highly likely that i wont find the necessary equipment to fix it myself. I found only a single case cover for the Nexus which is the poetic brand slimline(Is that any good ? ). Nexus 7 16Gb version costs around $320 here
All this makes me doubt to purchase the awesome gadget and rather settle for the sub-standard Galaxy tab 2 7.0 3G which costs around the same.
But then again...i feel like I wont be able to happily enjoy any other set as i have been in love with Nexus 7 for the last 6 months. So, as u guys can seen that i'm real in pickle. So any advice will go a long way for me. Is Nexus 7 really worth the risk ?
Thanks.

Just don't drop it, any screen can crack that way. Also get a screen protector, the glass does scratch relatively easy.

Fun story. I got an 8gb nexus from the first batch that were made. But I don't currently live in the US, so I ran a huge gamble by ordering one and having my family send it out to me in Asia. Worked *perfectly* until I went back to the US for Thanksgiving. Then, somehow, I blew out the speaker. I was able to get in touch with Google and get it swapped out in under a week, returned to Asia with my new 8GB (no magic upgrade, drat) and we've been happy ever since.
I don't think it's really any risk. The majority who complain about the nexus are a minority of the owners.

Also keep in mind you will hear more horror stories from pissed off owners than stories of folks reporting zero issues
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nisamtetreb said:
Just don't drop it, any screen can crack that way. Also get a screen protector, the glass does scratch relatively easy.
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Well...yeah i do know that but still scared to find cracked screen appearing without any reason.
Sharpen3d said:
Fun story. I got an 8gb nexus from the first batch that were made. But I don't currently live in the US, so I ran a huge gamble by ordering one and having my family send it out to me in Asia. Worked *perfectly* until I went back to the US for Thanksgiving. Then, somehow, I blew out the speaker. I was able to get in touch with Google and get it swapped out in under a week, returned to Asia with my new 8GB (no magic upgrade, drat) and we've been happy ever since.
I don't think it's really any risk. The majority who complain about the nexus are a minority of the owners.
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Aah how I wish I could have that opportunity of returning it, if any problem arises. Thank for sharing your story
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Also keep in mind you will hear more horror stories from pissed off owners than stories of folks reporting zero issues
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Well that is true and reassuring.

I'd say go for it. As for screen cracking for "no reason", I always wonder just how much truth there is to those stories. I've been perfectly happy with my nexus 7, and it has none of the "so common" problems.
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95Z28 said:
I'd say go for it. As for screen cracking for "no reason", I always wonder just how much truth there is to those stories. I've been perfectly happy with my nexus 7, and it has none of the "so common" problems.
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My friend got his 16gig N7 the day it came out and has had zero hardware issues with it. Gotta give credit to magiconthetire as well, he hit the nail on the head. When things go wrong it's the end of the world. But when things go right, you won't even know anything is happening at all.
Also I picked up the Poetic Slim case you mentioned and I really like it. The only draw back is how close the case comes to the bezel on the edges of the screen; if you have big hands or don't hit the bottom navigation bar or top notification bar at the right angle...the case sort of gets in the way. My solution to that is using a stylus for more accurate precision. The stylus also makes typing significantly easier, especially if you use gesture typing such as Swype, SwiftKey Flow, etc.

OP if you know someone you trust in Europe, USA, or even Australia. Get them to buy the tablet for you and ship it out to you. Even with shipping it will be a lot less than $320, if it breaks for something that is under warranty send it back to them and they can return it for repairs.
Cheers Danny

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My friend got his 16gig N7 the day it came out and has had zero hardware issues with it. Gotta give credit to magiconthetire as well, he hit the nail on the head. When things go wrong it's the end of the world. But when things go right, you won't even know anything is happening at all.
Also I picked up the Poetic Slim case you mentioned and I really like it. The only draw back is how close the case comes to the bezel on the edges of the screen; if you have big hands or don't hit the bottom navigation bar or top notification bar at the right angle...the case sort of gets in the way. My solution to that is using a stylus for more accurate precision. The stylus also makes typing significantly easier, especially if you use gesture typing such as Swype, SwiftKey Flow, etc.
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Thanks. Could u tell me a bit more about the case. I have read some reviews and found out that their cover wears a bit after a couple of weeks. Is that true and about the stylus.....could u kindly recommend me one ? Thanks again
toidimaet said:
OP if you know someone you trust in Europe, USA, or even Australia. Get them to buy the tablet for you and ship it out to you. Even with shipping it will be a lot less than $320, if it breaks for something that is under warranty send it back to them and they can return it for repairs.
Cheers Danny
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Sadly, not a single person is willing to take that minute hassle.

Excellent protection: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970566

Farhad1909 said:
Thanks. Could u tell me a bit more about the case. I have read some reviews and found out that their cover wears a bit after a couple of weeks. Is that true and about the stylus.....could u kindly recommend me one ? Thanks again
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I've only had mine for a couple of weeks and so far no issues here. This is under pretty heavy use as well, as I take my Nexus 7 with me everywhere that I go. The case works really well though, it has a snug fit on the N7 so it doesn't move around inside of it at all, the smart cover that turns the screen on when you open the flap back has worked flawlessly, the hand strap for the back is really nice for using it in portrait mode while laying in bed or for just holding it up during prolonged periods, and the landscape stand is a little tricky to figure out at fist...but works just fine once you figure it out. I'd recommend some kind of sound toggle app for your notification bar as well, because the case does make it a bit of a pain to reach the physical buttons. But that's not really Poetic's fault, the way the buttons angle down with the curve of the backside of the tablet makes them kind of annoying for any case that doesn't have the same slope on it.
As far as stylus' go, I heard good things about this one and it was still fairly cheap...I just got it in the mail a couple of days ago but so far, so good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MOHLVC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

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The thing is i need to wait for 3-4 months to receive any accessories for the nexus 7. So, meanwhile i need to live with the poetic brand as its the only one around.
Vepaot said:
I've only had mine for a couple of weeks and so far no issues here. This is under pretty heavy use as well, as I take my Nexus 7 with me everywhere that I go. The case works really well though, it has a snug fit on the N7 so it doesn't move around inside of it at all, the smart cover that turns the screen on when you open the flap back has worked flawlessly, the hand strap for the back is really nice for using it in portrait mode while laying in bed or for just holding it up during prolonged periods, and the landscape stand is a little tricky to figure out at fist...but works just fine once you figure it out. I'd recommend some kind of sound toggle app for your notification bar as well, because the case does make it a bit of a pain to reach the physical buttons. But that's not really Poetic's fault, the way the buttons angle down with the curve of the backside of the tablet makes them kind of annoying for any case that doesn't have the same slope on it.
As far as stylus' go, I heard good things about this one and it was still fairly cheap...I just got it in the mail a couple of days ago but so far, so good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MOHLVC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
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Wow that was more then helpful. Thanks a lot.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D2POAS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
This is the case I purchased. Sounds about the same as the poetic, but also includes a good screen protector.
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I have dropped mine a few times from different heights on different surfaces and its fine. But if you drop it right it will probably shatter, just get a case. Something like this if you are really clumsy.
http://www.amazon.com/Bobj-Rugged-C...3SQAI9BQY42F6&qid=1355563353&s=generic&sr=1-6
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Asus have international warranty for it.
Beamed from my Maguro.

If you ever want to buy a case throughout the internet I'd be more than happy to help a fellow owner out and re-ship to you!

I don't want to persuade you not to get one because I love the n7 and think everyone should have one, but i just broke my second one. My daughter dropped the first one and the corner of the screen shattered. I didn't have insurance because I've never dropped or lost a phone or laptop or anything, so it cost full price to replace it.
I had the second one in my back pocket, bent down, and screwed up the screen. My pants aren't tight but my butt put a little bit of leverage on the middle of the screen and broke it. When I turned it on later, the screen has a discolored line through it and a pattern of random lines on each side and no normal picture. The screen glass didn't crack, but the screen internals must have. I paid $50 for insurance so I hope it will be replaced with no hassle.
Long story short, I'll never use an n7 without a protective case again, and I've never used a case on any device.

Thanks a lot guys....I have taken all the advice into consideration and have found a satisfying solution. Gonna wait three months and buy through a friend in US.
Edit : How can I close the thread ?

Farhad1909 said:
Thanks a lot guys....I have taken all the advice into consideration and have found a satisfying solution. Gonna wait three months and buy through a friend in US.
Edit : How can I close the thread ?
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The thread will close its self or help some one else ..
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What did you do in the first couple of days with your Note 4?

Finally got my Note 4 today, pretty content with device. Being very overprotected in terms of keeping device mint. I've decided to stick with the Commuter Case, Alpha Glass, and Skinomi Techskin. Defender Series case was too difficult to install with third-party screen protector. Zagg Glass was absolute brittle.
Device is immaculate, S-Pen is hard to remove at times, and screen uniformity is pretty consistent. There's always going to be variation in the each AMOLED display.
So far so good, looking forward to a good time with the Note 4.
What did you do in the first couple of days with your Note 4?

disable some samsung apps i didnt need and tmobile apps. and THIS PHONE IS ROCK SOLID. i thought my last samsung phone was S4, but boy i was wrong. this thing is a BAD BAD BOY. Nova launcher with this thing is a piece of beauty

I odined and flashed mine within 2 hours of receiving it.

I stared at the amazing QHD display.
Then rooted it.
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I rooted mine immediately and installed fire Kat rom. Then disabled all the stock apps I didn't use. Love this phone!

I rooted mine and installed FireKat

I literally open every program and setting to discover any new features or removed features. Then i protect it like a pterodactyl egg unti i get my case cuz i never buy both at the same time. Then i contimplate voiding my warranty by rooting and flashing and of coarse I do the next day after all the fear blows over. Now i have a T Rex on roids.

Nothing other then not putting it down. Showing her off naked.

Now that's an inspiration. I have to learn how not to overprotect my devices. :laugh:
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Nothing other then not putting it down. Showing her off naked.
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arjun90 said:
Now that's an inspiration. I have to learn how not to overprotect my devices. :laugh:
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I'm very careful with my phones. I have Jump and know a guy that works at T-Mobile so I would have to beat the phone up pretty good for him not to take it. The Note 4 is a nice looking phone and don't want to hide it in case plus I just like how the metal feels when it's cold. lol

Never thought of the metal that way, haha. There are a lot more things than just a phone to think about in life. I'm due to upgrade in as little as six months, thanks to the Jump Program. Leasing phones is the way to go. :highfive:
Edit: I just hope that S-Pen loosens up as time goes.
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I'm very careful with my phones. I have Jump and know a guy that works at T-Mobile so I would have to beat the phone up pretty good for him not to take it. The Note 4 is a nice looking phone and don't want to hide it in case plus I just like how the metal feels when it's cold. lol
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Disable bloat, drop animations to .5, and mod youtube to watch 1440p.

arjun90 said:
I just hope that S-Pen loosens up as time goes.
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Mine did. I liked how stiff it was when I first got it compared to how it is now.
First thing I did was turn it on to make sure it worked. Then I rooted it, flashed TWRP, deleted/froze a bunch of crap, added my apps, and began enjoying it.

I had one from AT&T back in November, just wondering why that wasn't so stiff.
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Mine did. I liked how stiff it was when I first got it compared to how it is now.
First thing I did was turn it on to make sure it worked. Then I rooted it, flashed TWRP, deleted/froze a bunch of crap, added my apps, and began enjoying it.
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Anyone having concerns with the rear facing speaker?
I watch a lot of video/shows/movies on my N3 and the sound is nothing to write home about.
90% of my phone conversations are on speaker phone.
Im concerned about hearing the caller clearly if im holding the the phone with the speaker facing my palm.
How are u guys dealing with this, (its my only concern upgrading)?

Rooted it and started working on a kernel for it

Made a couple of calls. ?

From the should I root thread:
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
We of course have more roms, now.

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Android_Monsters said:
From the should I root thread:
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
We of course have more roms, now.
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This should probably be in Q&A.
But, in the touch wiz roms it's just there.
In the aosp roms you can't. At least for now.