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Can we disable sense

now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense

Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!

titos1997 said:
now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
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You can't just disable sense, it IS the UI and for all intents (lol) and purposes, the OS. Vanilla Google Android 2.1 is a different kernel than Android HTC Sense 2.1, so it has to be replaced, lock stock and barrel. Go over and look at the Dream forums, the Sense&Espresso camp is quite different from the Donut, Eclair, Froyo camp. If you've ever used linux, the difference between Gnome distros and KDE distros is a pretty apt (lol) comparison. They can run each others' programs (usually), but they are built up from the kernel differently. So like the other dude said, just wait a sec

gospeed.racer said:
Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
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There's some serious work to be done unless we get some test keys. Don't think that customs ROMs will be coming within the next week.

You can start by using a different launcher. I like launcherpro from the market. Its really nice and fast compared to sense. Once you install a new launcher, make sure you set it as your default and then reboot your phone.
You can also remove a lot of sense apps while in recovery. Just be careful what you remove. Some things are needed or your phone will boot loop or you might get a mess if fc's upon rebooting. you might want to try just renaming them first to see if there is any bad side effect before actually removing it. You can also copy the apps you remove to your phone for backup purposes. Be careful 'cuz I am not responsible for you bricking your phone.
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So we basically we should just wait for a fresh 2.1 rom from one of our devs, Ill just sit here and twittle my thumbs in the mean time

If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.

gospeed.racer said:
If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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I agree with you all I want is simple android 2.1 (or 2.2) without all the verizon crap they feel I need on my phone

Just use AWD or Launcher Pro... you won't see anything sense related using those unless you hunt for it.

if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.

gospeed.racer said:
if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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I have used both.... and after giving sense a try and not listening to others.... I actually prefer it over vanilla... everything works better imo with better integration.

...and thats fine for you...but not really correct to say that a Launcher will remove the feel of Sense. There is enough room in this world for Coke AND Pepsi...as well both Vanilla and Sense roms

Cyanogen based ROMs are the best. Sense sucks ... IMO.
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I "replaced" my SenseUI with ADW, and it works great. I say "replaced" because by installing ADW or Launcher Pro, you're only replacing the UI part of Sense. Sense will still run underneath. Until custom ROMs come (which won't happen until we get an unlocked NAND), that's what we've got.

I am really looking forward to getting Froyo. I came from a Moto Droid where I had just recently installed Froyo, and it was so fast. I actually like the Incredible more because of the better screen and lighter feel with no keyboard, but the Droid was so much faster on Froyo it almost makes me want to go back until they get the Incredible figured out.

I think if you came from WinMo and are used to Sense then you will like it on Android. If not then most will hate it.

Not to clutter this post or change subject
I dont see you you can say the screen on the incredible is better. I have both and I still think the Moto droids screen is better higher res and easier to see in sunlight. again its my opinion.
Dont get me wrong they are very close in resolution but the Moto droid is slightly higher. Inside with no sun on them they are very close I'll give it that.

Incredible has leaked 2.2 with everything working w/Sense

Now I know they don't have 4G but everything works with Sense. Can we get this ported?
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Is it really nessecary? Ava-FroyoV2 already has Sense and everything but BT and 4G working. I would expect it to be more work to port this than just have Ava fix BT and have basically the same.

Given the similarities between the Evo and Inc, the 2.2 update should be right around the corner. Also remember that Verizon is notorious for long testing before a software update.
Having said that, I'm sure a Dev will figure out a way to port this over.

But we already have CyanogenMod with everything but 4G working.
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The advantage of using the Incredible's 2.2 over the current 2.2 Sense that we have is that it will work better with what we have. The other one we have is for the Desire. So, for instance, the camera may work better. If it has a newer kernel we may be able to use that, etc. So, yeah, I'd say it would be worth porting over. Either way, I'm sticking with CM6 as I have missed Cyanogen since my days with the G1.

Well I suppose we'll have to wait again for the new kernel's source code, hopefully it doesn't take as long this time.

There is more issues with that rom then those listed, for example exchange doesn't setup correctly
trogdor182 said:
Is it really nessecary? Ava-FroyoV2 already has Sense and everything but BT and 4G working. I would expect it to be more work to port this than just have Ava fix BT and have basically the same.
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I would like to see a port of it. I like the Stock look with the speed under the hood.

Is it an unpopular opinion to actually like SenseUI around here? I vastly prefer Sense over the stock UI, TouchWiz and MotoBlur.

Unfortunately, since CyanogenMod has just about everything working, the only real improvements for the EVO that could be pulled out of the Droid Incredible's code is the FM radio, assuming they're even the same chip(which, without doing some research, I highly doubt).

From what I have seen and played with Sense is pretty nice, but I really like the look/feel of ADW.Launcher and Stock apps myself.
To each their own.
Although an official HTC Release of 2.2 would be interesting to see performance wise.

I like sense as well but I am not married to it, but I don't see why all the hate
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Sense has some really good apps like music and email. Don't argue with me about music app. It is by far the smoothest and streamed lined music player for android. Even froyo music is a piece of crap. Google really need to work on the music players for Android. iPhone and.most likely the Zune based Windows Mobile 7 music player are/will be vastly superior.
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Sense isn't bad, but it's not as useful for me. There are maybe one or two widgets that I'd like to have, but with all the other bulkiness it's not worth it. Like the 3 button dock. I'd much rather have the ADW where I can put 4 shortcuts plus the drawer. Once I tried CM6, I don't think I can go back to Sense.
It's all about preference.

The only thing I liked about Sense was the Mail/Exchange app. At least it gave me the option to select and delete multiple items at a time. With the current e-mail app (Froyo) i have to "tick" each e-mail, kinda tedious when you have over a hundren e-mails you want to delete at a time.

I don't plan on flashing a 2.2 rom until I know 4g works. I'd rather be able to use the service I'm paying for.

cosine83 said:
Is it an unpopular opinion to actually like SenseUI around here? I vastly prefer Sense over the stock UI, TouchWiz and MotoBlur.
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Sense is just a pretty pointless bit of eyecandy that vastly slows down updates received by HTC phones. It is completely tangled up in the OS, and it just slows things down and provides very limited customization due to its closed-source nature. AOSP Android is extremely fast and smooth, and you are free to add all of the eyecandy and additional apps you want.

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Sense is just a pretty pointless bit of eyecandy that vastly slows down updates received by HTC phones. It is completely tangled up in the OS, and it just slows things down and provides very limited customization due to its closed-source nature. AOSP Android is extremely fast and smooth, and you are free to add all of the eyecandy and additional apps you want.
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While I do agree with you, I really wish there were Marketplace equivalents of some of the HTC widgets (Email, Bookmarks, and NewsReader in particular). Pure Messenger is the closest I've found to the HTC email widget but after spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get it set up the way I like, I gave up. And, don't get me started on my K9/Exchange integration issues.
And, I'm a geek! I can only imagine the frustration the average non-techie, Android owner without a Sense phone goes through.

okolowicz said:
While I do agree with you, I really wish there were Marketplace equivalents of some of the HTC widgets (Email, Bookmarks, and NewsReader in particular). Pure Messenger is the closest I've found to the HTC email widget but after spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get it set up the way I like, I gave up. And, don't get me started on my K9/Exchange integration issues.
And, I'm a geek! I can only imagine the frustration the average non-techie, Android owner without a Sense phone goes through.
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Well final-damn-ly, somebody without their head stuck up their ass realizes this lol. But really, they did a good job with the widgets and to me are worth more than the hassles i have to put up with. And don't forget copy/paste; stock google's is the most godawful take on copypasta i've ever seen. While I've gotten used to launcher pro plus, returning back to sense would definitely be a welcome home for me.

I agree that Sense, although a resource hog, has the best widgets. Just wish I could use wiimote.
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HTC Sense

I notice there are a few different ROM's for the DHD, some with Sense some without.
Whats the actual difference, does Sence in some way slow the phone down?
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
So, are there advantages to running a more vanilla android version with some widgets over the sense style ROMs.
I am on mike1986's Android Revolution.

I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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Trig0r said:
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
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If you root the phone using VISIONary+ you can delete/rename the Lockscreen.apk I believe and it will return to the vanilla lockscreen. As for jazzy widgets that's a Sense thing, unless you buy and install LauncherPro over ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro has People, Bookmarks, Calaendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook & Friends widgets that can be used. There is also music widget control using Cyanogen.
I find sense slow and garish, it slows down the phone for no good reason, ASOP ROMs are much lighter and look, IMO, much prettier and unique.

jokies said:
I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.

i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water

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i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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People like the simplicity of Cyanogen. Sense slows even the DHD down, it's aweful. And to boot pretty much everyone with an Android phone has it. It's better to be unique.

you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others

rosswaa said:
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.

rosswaa said:
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Point well made.
I really can't notice nay slow down due to Sense whatsoever. I really do think that someone should clearly "sell" the advantages of dumping Sense, other than just plain old enthusiasm for hacking something. I think it is more down to aesthetics than anything else. Try other ROMs and see if you like them, you might. I like the fact that HTC have at least tried to add value to Android.
A further irony is having come from the Magic I can vouch for the fact that much effort was put into porting Sense to that plain Android phone.
Sorry, no lag when I scroll my SMS or App drawer. The DHD can definitely deal with the demands of Sense.

Sense is pretty cool and only lags if you try to make it. I think that if all Android phones came with Cyanogen as the stock ROM then the Sense ROM would be a massive hit. Cyanogen is definitely a good choice because it's clean and fast but until i actually need my Desire HD to run faster and more efficiently i won't use it. That's why i will go sort of halfway and flash a cooked sense based ROM like Leedroid.

Kalavere said:
Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not

sHaHiN786 said:
I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
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I have to admit I didn't try it out on desire hd but I tried it when I'm with a hero. Say, cyan is for dev and sense is for users. Whatever you get what you want.
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rosswaa said:
look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.

If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?

eozen81 said:
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.

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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?

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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Not that, I know of. Sense Copy & Paste is one of them, there is no magnification window when you copy and paste on the DHD, and the louder ring, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
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lol who said it had to be standard? sense comes with to much bloatware, so i remove most of it
have you tried this theme addon? http://classical-gas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jamt-htc-desire-cyanogenmod-610rc2.html
works real nice i have cyan set up alight atm but hopefuly not long till the ginger comes along

I am back on a sense rom. Rcmixhd since adfree and other components work correctly unlike on the other sense roms I've tried. I used to love Cyanogen on my Nexus One but the new sense is very slick indeed.
It does not lag. It does take a little longer to boot and use more memory but who cares when we have so much ram on the dhd. I don't know how the amount of room it takes can be an issue either considering we have 1.5gb rom. I still have 0.9gb free with 54 apps installed.
tbh I still love cyanogenmod but its htc locations which is keeping me on sense. Its the best android offline navigator I've tried in terms of routing here in New zealand and I love the fact I can just buy a cheap 1 month subscription for navigation in another country when I go overseas. Any other app one is forced to buy a complete package for that country at considerably larger cost.
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I really don't like the Sense launcher, I use adw, but sense has lots of little modifications that are just nice to have. Text selection, quick lookup, freaking awesome dialer, flip to speaker etc
I'm running android revolution hd, no lags, excellent battery (whole day with pretty heavy use. Needs charging every night but I can use all the phones features as much as I like and not give the battery a second thought) also 2400 in quadrant. So all in all i really rate sense.

I refuse to use MIUI

looks too much like iOS, any1 else feel the same way?

it does and i said the same thing but iv been running it for a month now, switching off to new sense roms but within a hour im back it works way to good. All the sense roms out battery life sucks, it lags, and even after switching to a new kernel seems something breaks like wifi.

Personally I like savzen I agree that sense eats up battery life but I enjoy the Widgets but I can do without
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erawtik said:
it does and i said the same thing but iv been running it for a month now, switching off to new sense roms but within a hour im back it works way to good. All the sense roms out battery life sucks, it lags, and even after switching to a new kernel seems something breaks like wifi.
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love sense, but ran it for so long it got boring, went to MIUI then found out it had no app drawer like iOS, and i didnt like that experience lol, now im running an AOSP rom

Really can't stand Sense anything. I tried the MIUI for about 10 minutes. Definitely not for me. CM7 does everything I need it to.
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MIUI is ios if ios was designed really, really well. It may "simply" look the same, but it isn't remotely close. I highly recommend you try it before you bash it for not having an app drawer.

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MIUI is ios if ios was designed really, really well. It may "simply" look the same, but it isn't remotely close. I highly recommend you try it before you bash it for not having an app drawer.
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i did try it, for almost a day, but the feel was too much like iOS, i get what ur saying, but it really doesnt feel like i have an android on my hands if u kno what i mean

I'm using the MIUI Tim and I love it I guess my only issue is that I'm not experiencing that long battery life everyone is speaking of am I doing something wrong... help lol I have the cyotogen 7 kernel if that helps
sttonydamunsta luv my evo4g

I wasn't thrilled with the lack of the app drawer but that's easily fixed by loading another launcher. When I was using MIUI it was Launcher Pro.

MIUI looks like iOS after a fresh flash, but it doesn't have to. That's what I love most about it, I can theme every aspect of it. I use Alt Drawer, so I have an app drawer.
Plus it's smooth, has a lot of neat apps, and is different than any other rom I've seen. I switched to it because I was bored with CM7 and didn't like Sense. That was in April and I haven't looked back.
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tempe38 said:
I wasn't thrilled with the lack of the app drawer but that's easily fixed by loading another launcher. When I was using MIUI it was Launcher Pro.
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hmm never thought about doing that, thx for the idea hehe
plainjane said:
MIUI looks like iOS after a fresh flash, but it doesn't have to. That's what I love most about it, I can theme every aspect of it. I use Alt Drawer, so I have an app drawer.
Plus it's smooth, has a lot of neat apps, and is different than any other rom I've seen. I switched to it because I was bored with CM7 and didn't like Sense. That was in April and I haven't looked back.
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dont get me wrong, the Rom looked super neat, and smooth, except for the keyboard, couldnt keep up with my typing but thats easily fixed
and alt drawer? never heard of it, might give it a try see how i like it

Or just throw all your apps into a folder and put it on the dock.
~ I'm a fungi

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Or just throw all your apps into a folder and put it on the dock.
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i tried that, but the more apps i put in, the laggier it got for some reason, and it was really cramped, kind of annoying to try to find an app lol

I am on the dislike MIUI bandwagon too. I'm not going to bash it as I agree it has some sick features. The killer for me was the app drawer and 4g. I think if I gave it more than a day I could customize it to my liking but I just like Sense and all the Sense features.
I thought about maybe a custom launcher but then I thought "why change from a Sense rom that is native to my HTC phone that guarantees GPS ect to work by default and install one that isn't just to put a launcher over it and defeat the purpose"
I got bored with Sense launcher and Rosie so I currently have ADW ex installed and still have flawless gps, the dialer I like, everything synced how I like, email app I like apps where I want ect... right from the start.
I could do that with MIUI or CM but then I have to install DialerOne, GoSMS and a few other things to get what I like. I can't stand any of the AOSP dialer and sms layouts.
If I didn't live in such a 4g rich area I would probably give MIUI the turn it deserves but that is a killer before I start. It's also what's really irking me about the new Sense 3.5 Roms. Runny~Bliss(i think) hybrid looks gorgeous to me..... but I'll wait it out.

Miui isn't a bad rom at all. At first I refuse to use it because it did remind me of my old iPhone. But ended up trying it and loving it.
I get better battery life with miui compared to sense. Plus there is alot of built in apps and features to miui that is bad ass. And who can forget all the sweet customizing you can do to it. For example just did this setup below a few minutes ago...
One somewhat downside for me is the no 4G but then again that only effects me when I go visit my parents up state. That's when I backup Miui and switch to a sense Rom problem solved haha.
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MIUI is AMAZING. I love it. And the theming? NO ROM beats it! Its fantastic the way you can make your phone look. The only reason why I won run it, is because of the laggyness of the keyboard.

Here is my current setup of MIUI, and it damn sure doesn't look like iOS to me...
BTW, my GPS snaps perfectly, syncing all 8 SATS in about a millisecond. I really don't get why people make comments without knowing how to do something.

Maybe it does look a bit like iOS. But I don't care, it's still the smoothest and best ROM I've flashed on my Evo. (and particularly this week's build is quite stable so far).

HipKat said:
BTW, my GPS snaps perfectly, syncing all 8 SATS in about a millisecond. I really don't get why people make comments without knowing how to do something.
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Not sure if that was directed to my gps comment but either way...... It's a know fact that aosp based roms are more subject to gps issue and have had numerous "fixes" posted to resolve.
It's not a matter of what I KNOW how to do it what i WANT to deal with. I never said aosp or miui were bad by any means. Just not my cup.
Posted a long time ago in the future.

I used to think the same. Now, I have customized Miui to my liking by creating my own app drawer and installing a new theme via the built in theme manager. It is very fast, very advanced, highly customizable and finally pulled me away from Sense (though I do have two Sense Roms in my Boot Manager slots).
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Why Sense? What do you like?

Just wondering what people like about sense and any/all of the sense roms? I don't mean this to bash anybody's favorite rom and definitely not bashing any developers, I respect all the time and effort that's gone into any custom rom. I just wanted to know what I'm missing and/or if I just haven't given any enough quality time yet. Every time I've tried one it's just seemed a bit laggy and slow compared with some of the other rom's I've tried based on cm7. Again, don't start flaming me, I want to hear objective, reasonable reasons why you sense people like it.

The last time I used Sense was on my HTC Hero before I tried CyanogenMod. What I think Sense does right is it provides a UI and functionality where everything just works the way you would expect them to, without needing additional tweaking or apps. For example, there is no denying that the HTC dialer is infinitely superior to the AOSP dialer. I find it incredibly ironic that a glorious top-of-the-line smart phone cannot do something like smart (T9) dialing of contacts, something every single dumbphone can do. Also, since the beginning of Sense, the mail, phone, and text messaging icons automatically display an unread count badge on them, which I think everyone can appreciate. If you want that in AOSP you have to install separate widgets (like SMS Unread Count) or different home launchers that pretty much only enthusiasts would look for. HTC Sense also gives power controls and other shortcuts in the notification pull-down whereas stock AOSP does not (unless you're using CyanogenMod, which again, is only for enthusiasts). Also, I imagine that people also like the overall refined look (clean, dual-tone textures) that Sense provides over AOSP's rather plain and basic look. Just my two cents.

i hate sense but i can't live without it

For me it is all about lack of lag and uptime, plus a rotating rosie that works great - so i'm back on Virtuous 1.0.2
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bradley_e_smith said:
For me it is all about lack of lag and uptime, plus a rotating rosie that works great - so i'm back on Virtuous 1.0.2
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Sense 2.1???????

Like sense 2.1.. Coz its smooth ui then android platform ui..
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Z!GZA!G said:
Sense 2.1???????
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Yes, 2.1 running froyo
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The ONLY thing i miss about Sense is the zoom function of most included camcorder apk's. Not sure if it's something that can ONLY be achieved with sense but I've never seen it on non sense roms.

- Calender
- Clock app ( alarm, timer, stop watch) all in one
- contextual menus
I dont use sense launcher, I more like launcher pro.
unity 2.37

I just love Sense, tried other ROM's but couldn't get used to the UI which was a bit boring. Of course you can modify it all yourself, but I like the ready-to-go package Sense provides me. Now running Virtuous Affinity and Sense 3.5 looks great!

I wonder if it's what you get used to, in other words I wonder if I gave it more time and forced myself to use it for an extended period I'd get to like it more?

Sense is great for its integration with the ROM. in other words, if you prefer to have a GUI and sense's style happens to click with you, then it's awesome.
ofcourse. the dialer is best.

One thing I really really like about Sense : Internet passthrough. This needs to be in every ROM IMHO...

ArmedandDangerous said:
One thing I really really like about Sense : Internet passthrough. This needs to be in every ROM IMHO...
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i thought it is in every custom rom out there?? or atleast most of them...

mputtr said:
i thought it is in every custom rom out there?? or atleast most of them...
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Internet passthrough =/= tethering. Internet passthrough is when you plug your phone through the USB to your PC and uses your PC's connection. Tethering is using your phone's data FOR the PC.

Thijs_W said:
I just love Sense, tried other ROM's but couldn't get used to the UI which was a bit boring. Of course you can modify it all yourself, but I like the ready-to-go package Sense provides me. Now running Virtuous Affinity and Sense 3.5 looks great!
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Yeah, the same to me. i like sense because it seems so cool and there are so many functions that i have never imagined before. So i think sense 3.5 and other coming sense will be greater

ArmedandDangerous said:
Internet passthrough =/= tethering. Internet passthrough is when you plug your phone through the USB to your PC and uses your PC's connection. Tethering is using your phone's data FOR the PC.
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I know the difference between both. I could've sworn the older roms that I use for the DZ offered internet passthrough as well. I wasn't referring to tethering.

when it WORKS (as in doesn't encounter force closing) it is one of the smoothest and most intuitive interface's i've ever seen. I'll admit, it has problems and is still in need of work, it does take some CPU and RAM away from other things but over-all it is a beautiful UI and one of the most interesting and beautiful UIs of all of the custom ones out there. Now, with that said, I don't mean to say that the other's aren't nice.. however other companies just haven't gone as far into making a different and flowing interface

I like the look of sense but I just can't get past the lag.
I tried the two versions of 3.5 out there recently and they were so slow they were basically unusable. I tried with swap and enabled and without and overclocked up to almost 1500 and it still was so slow.
(used superwipe, etc before/between flashes)
2.1 ran a bit quicker but I still found it laggy and there were always odd things that did not work for me.
What was ironic is there was no "problems" at all with the 3.5 that i ran across as far as bugs, reboots, etc , it was just slow.
If one could even approach the speed of stock or cyanogen I would gladly use it.

It all about the widgets (Email especially ) that HTC provides on the sense I like.