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Like many others I have very poor battery life with my handset and if I forget to charge overnight it's empty in the morning.
To try and get as much out as possible I am disableing everything I can in terms of wifi, bluetooth and sync.
Now this is where I'm confused. The phone is linked to my Exchange server for contacts and email with push updates enabled. However even when I disable sync and background data I'm still having email pushed to the device.
This is definately not helping on the battery life front but short of doing a full reset and setup is there anywhere else I should be looking to turn this off when not needed?
harwooda said:
Like many others I have very poor battery life with my handset and if I forget to charge overnight it's empty in the morning.
To try and get as much out as possible I am disableing everything I can in terms of wifi, bluetooth and sync.
Now this is where I'm confused. The phone is linked to my Exchange server for contacts and email with push updates enabled. However even when I disable sync and background data I'm still having email pushed to the device.
This is definately not helping on the battery life front but short of doing a full reset and setup is there anywhere else I should be looking to turn this off when not needed?
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you can't, what you can do is to change it to sync once every hr.
Go to Settings > Accounts and sync > Tab on your exchange account > Account Settings > Email check frequency, change it to "Every Hour"
and Amount to synchronize to "1 day", it won't delete email you have downloaded to SGS, it just don't try to sync older day data. --> This will help your battery life
Thats just daft.
Why have the options to disable sync if it's then compleatly ignored. Is this the same for the google account as well? I only have this on the phone for market access but will manually disable all sync on this account if it will help battery life.
harwooda said:
Thats just daft.
Why have the options to disable sync if it's then compleatly ignored. Is this the same for the google account as well? I only have this on the phone for market access but will manually disable all sync on this account if it will help battery life.
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Google Mail sync will be manual
even with 1 hr + 1 day setting, I get significant battery life improvement.
does anyone know if its possible to run juice defender and still have background sync work for gmail? or is it that you just end up with syncing 1 time out of every 15 minutes? I enabled gmail to use the data connection but i assume that would only be when gmail is actually open. so what happens now when gmail trys to sync, will it just fail?
I'm curious about this as well. I use K9-Mail as well as GMail. If my sync interval is set to 5 minutes, but Juice Defender only turns on data every 15 minutes, which one wins? I assume Juice Defender and that the apps will just silently fail to update and try again later. Is that right?
beats me, but I'm probably going to uninstall this, I don't mind turning off the data, but not to the extend that i'm neutering my 2010 phone to do it. I mean seriously, it can't just check for sync on applications and activate the 3g? and turn off when the thing has the screen closed except for syncing? I'd expect an app to work like this one does 10 years ago. the phone is smarter than the app attempting to control it.
Yes, the inboxes won't sync while data is off. So worst case scenario you have a 15 minute delay between getting emails. You can set it to a faster data sync time - like 5 minutes. But you might only be able to do that with the paid app - UltimateJuice - I'm not sure.
I don't think the phone can do what you're wanting to do because of the way push email works. Generally, and I could be wrong here, Gmail works like other push email systems in that it requires a constant data connection (Like IMAP Idle) to notify when a new email comes in. The sync'ing you're talking about is more like a pull than a push. The problem with pulling is that it is way more taxing on the battery since it's actively checking at certain intervals if there are new emails. And if juicedefender was set to turn on 3g whenever something tried to pull - firstly the service would use way more battery than it's saving since it would constantly poll to see if anything is requesting a data connection, secondly, data would almost always be on - defeating the purpose.
robl45 said:
does anyone know if its possible to run juice defender and still have background sync work for gmail? or is it that you just end up with syncing 1 time out of every 15 minutes? I enabled gmail to use the data connection but i assume that would only be when gmail is actually open. so what happens now when gmail trys to sync, will it just fail?
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Actually yes. The free version allows you to specify which 1 app that can bypass the data blocking. The paid version let's you specify more. (click on the "Apps" button then "configure apps" in juice defender setup)
I have JD & UJ installed, i think i have it configured ok, I have it set so no data while screen is off but I still get gmail come thru when screen is off.
I have the schedule set to check every 2 hours, does this over rule the setting for no data while screen is off.
I wish there was an extensive guide provided with these types of apps
djcsurf said:
I wish there was an extensive guide provided with these types of apps
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That's why JD just got uninstalled.
Grr, I want my Blackberry back. I could have everything ON and still get 3+ days between charges.
I use the free version and can confirm that it is at most a 15 minute delay between emails. Its not really a big deal. It is just as responsive.
I get about 50% more battery life with the default settings.
JD is easy to understand and setup. You guys need a guide?
And no, you can't have Gmail syncing automatically by setting that particular app to keep data connection active or you have basically just made juicedefender useless.
You set it up to prefer wifi, turn data off with the screen. You set the timer to allow data connection on whatever schedule you want, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours. Then you are done. Do you really need a guide written to explain this? Then your emails will come through during whatever window you set up, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours.
muyoso said:
JD is easy to understand and setup. You guys need a guide?
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Isn't it funny people on a developers forum want a guide for one app......
muyoso said:
JD is easy to understand and setup. You guys need a guide?
And no, you can't have Gmail syncing automatically by setting that particular app to keep data connection active or you have basically just made juicedefender useless.
You set it up to prefer wifi, turn data off with the screen. You set the timer to allow data connection on whatever schedule you want, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours. Then you are done. Do you really need a guide written to explain this? Then your emails will come through during whatever window you set up, ie 5 minutes every 2 hours.
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I just have one JD question.. probably a dumb one..
I typically toggle my data manually. But I think I'd like to try letting JD do it's thing (turn data on for 2 minutes, twice per hour)..
So do I leave my manual toggle in the on, or off position? Their instructions are unclear (or I'm looking in the wrong place..)
In other words, if I have data manually toggled off, will JD override that and do it's thing?
Or do I have to leave data toggled on for JD to work?
Since Froyo, my Galaxy S suffers from battery drain if an exchange emailaccount is setup (irrespective of the update interval set). The only ROM & kernel which didn't do this was XWJPA with the Speedmod kernels.
Battery drain was easy to spot: SystemPanel would show that the CPU load while the phone was asleep was a steady 10-20%. Once the exchange account was removed, behaviour was back to normal immediately (idle CPU floating between 1% and 3%).
Since i like JVH very much, i have come up with a workaround in Gingerbread JVH: in Settings, Accounts and Synchronization, i untick 'Auto-sync' . This stops the idle CPU load.
Next, i have set up a task with Tasker, the task enables auto-sync every 4 hours, waits 5 minutes, and disables auto-sync again. This way, stuff is still synced every now and then without the battery drain.
Hope this helps someone.
Pls post your task settings for us to import. Thks
This does not solve the "suspend" bug.
Just tried it but after playing some game for testing this solution the suspend bug came back.
maartenlaeven said:
This does not solve the "suspend" bug.
Just tried it but after playing some game for testing this solution the suspend bug came back.
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well you could try removing software update app.
Already deleted the software update app. Doesn't seem to help.
Any other (new) sugestions?
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I have also seen this with my phone - but more importantly I have seen it on the server side as we have a number of Android phones, and we end up with a lot of processes running on the server.
I discovered by looking in the server logs that the email application is polling the Calendar on a constant basis. It is not just pinging the folder as it should do - it is also doing a sync every 5 minutes or so as far as I can tell.
My workaround is to uncheck the option for Calendar sync.
Other items Email, Contacts and Tasks all sync just fine as they are supposed to do.
Then every once in a while I check the Calendar sync option - perform a Sync Now to bring the calendar up to date - then uncheck the option again.
I do hope thy sort out this issue soon - as otherwise they have done a great job with enhancing the email application as far as ActiveSync integration goes.
LiverpoolFCfan said:
I have also seen this with my phone - but more importantly I have seen it on the server side as we have a number of Android phones, and we end up with a lot of processes running on the server.
I discovered by looking in the server logs that the email application is polling the Calendar on a constant basis. It is not just pinging the folder as it should do - it is also doing a sync every 5 minutes or so as far as I can tell.
My workaround is to uncheck the option for Calendar sync.
Other items Email, Contacts and Tasks all sync just fine as they are supposed to do.
Then every once in a while I check the Calendar sync option - perform a Sync Now to bring the calendar up to date - then uncheck the option again.
I do hope thy sort out this issue soon - as otherwise they have done a great job with enhancing the email application as far as ActiveSync integration goes.
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Exactly the same issue I am having.. Calandar is syncing like mad.... Im using Enhanced Email for my exchange email and thats bulling 46% of my battery.
Have removed the calandar sync and will update on results once i have a few hrs usage
Update: stopping exchange calendar sync has fixed my battery drain issues on jvh.
Sammy may have made changes to the sync app and stopped it from behaving properly. Guess its manual calendar sync until they fix
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update II:
Enhanced Email battery drain has gone from 40% to 4% since disabling calandar sync i now have more than 5hrs battery life
i m ready to disable all the calendar to get just few hours of battery
Krieg Noobie said:
Pls post your task settings for us to import. Thks
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Please note that this needs the program Tasker, available in the Market.
1. create a new Profile with the context Time, name the profile as you wish
2. set the From: field to 00:00, tick Repeat an set that to every x hours (i use 4 houres)
3. tap Done
4. Add a New Task, name the task as you wish
5. add an action, from the category Net, choose action Auto-sync, Set to On, tick Done
6. add an action, from the category Tasker, choose action Wait, Set to 5 minutes, tick Done
7. add an action, from the category Net, choose action Auto-sync, Set to Off, tick Done
8. Tick Done
9. Tick Apply
This way, its still possible to sync (even Agenda) without battery drain
LiverpoolFCfan said:
I have also seen this with my phone - but more importantly I have seen it on the server side as we have a number of Android phones, and we end up with a lot of processes running on the server.
I discovered by looking in the server logs that the email application is polling the Calendar on a constant basis. It is not just pinging the folder as it should do - it is also doing a sync every 5 minutes or so as far as I can tell.
My workaround is to uncheck the option for Calendar sync.
Other items Email, Contacts and Tasks all sync just fine as they are supposed to do.
Then every once in a while I check the Calendar sync option - perform a Sync Now to bring the calendar up to date - then uncheck the option again.
I do hope thy sort out this issue soon - as otherwise they have done a great job with enhancing the email application as far as ActiveSync integration goes.
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Thanks! This is consistent with something i have seen multiple times: if i opened up Settings, Accounts and Synchronization on the phone, and tapped the Exchange account, the grey spinning circle would always show next to the calendar entry, indicating it was in a sync loop or something.
I guess, this could very well be related to Android being sensitive to recurring appointments (and exceptions in recurring patterns) and appointments with large notes attached to them.
Could you point me to the logs on the Exchange server which lead you to this discovery. I'd like to dive in deeper.
Hi
Not sure if there is anything that will do this..
Normally I have my 3G/wifi disabled.
I'm looking for an email app that will periodically (every xx mins ) enable the 3G, login to multiple mail accounts ( SMTP & Gmail ) check for new messages, disconnect from the 3G and tell me account A as 2 new messages, account B has 1 new.... etc.
I'm not to bothered about receiving the full message, but getting the headers would be nice !!
Is there any thing like that ?
Thanks
Mate...
Not too sure if there is, but I'd be keen too.
I think your best bet is probably going to be standard email programs with some additional manager like tasker or automateit sitting on top doing the switching on and off.
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I use juice defender on my wildfire, turns 3g/WiFi off when my screen goes off, but you can set it up to ping autosync at set time intervals........ valuable tool for my poor battery life.
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+1 on Juice Defender.
Hello, in the last couple of days googleservices drain my battery more than screen. In the battery usage stats ,googleservices is everytime around 25-30%.
I disabled location settings (in the phone settings and in the google settings). im not using google now, nor any other google apps (books,games,music). nothing. What could be the reasons and is there any way what app or process causes so much "googleservices" activity?
Same issues here as well. 4.3 is very heavy on google services. had this issue on 4.3 note 2 as well but never had it on 4.1
sohebq said:
Same issues here as well. 4.3 is very heavy on google services. had this issue on 4.3 note 2 as well but never had it on 4.1
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Don't synch Gmail.
Use samsung email client and you'll see a BIG difference in terms of battery life
EliaAlberti said:
Don't synch Gmail.
Use samsung email client and you'll see a BIG difference in terms of battery life
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u mean, not to use gmail application and use integrated client for google emails instead or u mean disabling sync emails within google account sync options?
ixinho said:
Hello, in the last couple of days googleservices drain my battery more than screen. In the battery usage stats ,googleservices is everytime around 25-30%.
I disabled location settings (in the phone settings and in the google settings). im not using google now, nor any other google apps (books,games,music). nothing. What could be the reasons and is there any way what app or process causes so much "googleservices" activity?
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Try this delete your Google account and sign back in worked for me
ixinho said:
u mean, not to use gmail application and use integrated client for google emails instead or u mean disabling sync emails within google account sync options?
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Yes I actually mean both
Don't use Gmail and use integrated email client AND go to accounts > google > untick Sync Gmail.
Let me know how it goes! Ciao
EliaAlberti said:
Yes I actually mean both
Don't use Gmail and use integrated email client AND go to accounts > google > untick Sync Gmail.
Let me know how it goes! Ciao
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Ok i disabled gmail sync so my gmail app doesnt work anymore, but i have a problem with adding gmail acc to my native email client. As far as i know it should work automatically when i enter username and pass and click next (i added my yahoo acc like that) but it says authentication failed.
I checked in my gmail settings, imap is enabled , so is there anything else i need to enter manually?
ixinho said:
Ok i disabled gmail sync so my gmail app doesnt work anymore, but i have a problem with adding gmail acc to my native email client. As far as i know it should work automatically when i enter username and pass and click next (i added my yahoo acc like that) but it says authentication failed.
I checked in my gmail settings, imap is enabled , so is there anything else i need to enter manually?
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Do you use a two-steps log in for Gmail?
If so enter the Gmail app password. I do have 2 steps verification system and rather then entering my Gmail password I use the password I've got for my app account.
I'm sorry I can't be more precise but I reckon that is why you're not able to log in.
Ciao
EliaAlberti said:
Do you use a two-steps log in for Gmail?
If so enter the Gmail app password. I do have 2 steps verification system and rather then entering my Gmail password I use the password I've got for my app account.
I'm sorry I can't be more precise but I reckon that is why you're not able to log in.
Ciao
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Hm, yes i activated 2 steps maybe few weeks ago, but im not quite sure which app password you mean. I have only one gmail password.
Oh, found it under google settings for 2 step verification. will try now.
ixinho said:
Hm, yes i activated 2 steps maybe few weeks ago, but im not quite sure which app password you mean. I have only one gmail password.
Oh, found it under google settings for 2 step verification. will try now.
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thanx , it worked : ) will see if it reduces battery drain and will post here.
can you just explain me what does sync under native email client mean? i have now 2 accounts in native email client and they both have only sync option under account settings. should that be disabled as well even though i disabled it under google account settings?
If I disable gmail sync, should I keep the contacts sync on with gmail? or use the samsung contacts sync?
Same issues google has big sync to drain battery. Mine was 334mb today just for auto backup image
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Terrible results.
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Google play services is draining too much battery. Is anyone else experiencing this? It's really not normal to have more battery drain from this instead of screen on. On my note 2 this never happened and from 7:00 am to 11:00 PM my phone was at 50% with 3 hours of screen on and about 300 apps. Now with GN3 with this rom stock kernel and fresh install with about only 20 apps I can hardly go until 10:00 PM with only 2 hours screen on.
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I am near to find solution. Hold on.
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From 700+ wakelocks, I have reduced it to 340 after playing with autostarts. Also its not appearing in battery stats.
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I actually had some results by going to Google settings and disabling some stuff from there including Google now etc. I will test tomorrow and if I see some good results I will explain in detail the settings I changed.
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Update google play services to fix it. Dont forget to thanks
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I had same thing, what I done just switched off location reporting and "use wireless networks " under location settings. Now it is all fine
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ALERTas said:
I had same thing, what I done just switched off location reporting and "use wireless networks " under location settings. Now it is all fine
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I hate having to turn that off because I want the Goggle Now services to work, and I've found on mine I keep all of that on and still get rid of the Google Services drain. The problem comes from the fact that even when you switch WiFi off, network location keeps it running all the time for location purposes. In 4.1 there was nothing you could do about it, but under 4.3 if you set the following:
Keep Wifi on during sleep > Never
Scanning always available > Unticked
This allows WiFi location to work when you're actually using Wifi, but not if it's only keeping Wifi on for location purposes. I have been running this for a while now, and the Google Services drain is pretty much gone, but full Google Now and Location Services are still available.
Just as a footnote - I'm not actually using the "Wifi during sleep" setting, I use DS Battery Saver Pro with a custom profile that just forces Wifi off when the screen is off, but the settings above should have the same effect.........