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Samsung Galaxy S: The Nexus One's successor has arrived

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-android-smartphone
http://www.samsungunpacked.com/#
- 1 GHz Snapdragon
- Super AMOLED, meaning you can view it in full sunlight
- 4" screen
- Android 2.1
- HD video recording
- DivX / XviD / Avi / MKV playback
- Front facing camera
- 1500 mAh battery (N1 is 1400)
- 16 GB memory + microSD
- 9.9mm thin (N1 is 11.5 mm!)
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Only problem? Samsung. They've never been amazing with firmware updates. Their app drawer is also really, really ugly.
"Successor" seems a bit of an exaggeration, too, considering this uses a 1 GHz Snapdragon anyway. It's the same generation. I'd consider a device a "successor" if it's the next step up--1.5 GHz processor at the very least.

I bet it will be awesome...until the next version of android comes out.

what about rom/ram?

I'm impressed they have xvid/divx playback in there. I imagine it won't be long until we get that on our nexus one.

And the size??
I mean 4" screen is cool to have, but the whole phone gets bigger...SamsungPad ...but I like the front camera

grainysand said:
Only problem? Samsung. They've never been amazing with firmware updates. Their app drawer is also really, really ugly.
"Successor" seems a bit of an exaggeration, too, considering this uses a 1 GHz Snapdragon anyway. It's the same generation. I'd consider a device a "successor" if it's the next step up--1.5 GHz processor at the very least.
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That's true. I'm eagerly awaiting the next batch of processors, but who knows when that will be?
In the mean time, this has me salivating.

grainysand said:
Only problem? Samsung. They've never been amazing with firmware updates. Their app drawer is also really, really ugly.
"Successor" seems a bit of an exaggeration, too, considering this uses a 1 GHz Snapdragon anyway. It's the same generation. I'd consider a device a "successor" if it's the next step up--1.5 GHz processor at the very least.
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LOL, the exact same thing I thought when I saw it say Samsung.
While I am impressed at all the support for various files, they couldn't force that hideous UI on me.

rori1 said:
And the size??
I mean 4" screen is cool to have, but the whole phone gets bigger...SamsungPad ...but I like the front camera
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N1: 59.8 x 119 x 11.5 millimetres, 130 grams (battery included)
From: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2200&c=google_nexus_one_us_htc_passion
S: 64.2 x 122.4 x 9.9mm, 118g
Thinner and lighter. Width and height are just barely larger, which is impressive considering the extra 0.3" on the screen size.

Paul22000 said:
N1: 59.8 x 119 x 11.5 millimetres, 130 grams (battery included)
From: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2200&c=google_nexus_one_us_htc_passion
S: 64.2 x 122.4 x 9.9mm, 118g
Thinner and lighter. Width and height are just barely larger, which is impressive considering the extra 0.3" on the screen size.
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hmm, you are right..that looks good

nexus one still looks sexier than the samsung lol

htc fan89 said:
nexus one still looks sexier than the samsung lol
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This I can't disagree. The S looks like an iPhone clone. The N1 has its OWN style.

Also, there's the HTC Supersonic: basically a HD2 but with Android on it. Sleek as hell, WiMax/4G support, and an even bigger screen! It's about the only phone currently that makes me lust a little.

cool phone, unfortunately looks too much like an iDoesNot.
I just want the codecs/binaries ported!

Super amoled is amoled and touch sensors in the same layer

Htc supersonic ftw!!!!!!!!!

I dont see this phone being thinner as a good thing. The N1 is thin enough as is. Make the Samsung a little thicker than the N1 with a hard keyboard and im sold.

Hmmmmm...
No sir, I don't like it.

WHY DON'T WE GET THE GOOD PHONES IN CANADA I hate that....

Not bad, not bad at all.
Would ditch that UI though.

Already have a Nexus One

I bought my N1 with no contract, so on T-mobile i can get a Vibrant for like 160 if i renew for 2 more years. I already have my N1, is there a compelling reason to go for the Vibrant? Besides the nice screen does it do anything better than the N1 already can?

Better Camera for pictures
720p HD video recording and playback (not sure if N1 can do 720p play back)
Pocket $200+ when you sell your N1

I just sold my Nexus One this morning. I'm having a lot more fun with the Vibrant!

There are some people on this forum that went from the N1 to Vibrant; I don't know if I would. The Vibrant is really nice, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. If I were in your shoes I'd wait and see what comes out later this year. Gingerbread will be out by the end of the year, and there are supposed to be some killer devices coming out to go with it.
However I did come from an N900 so it's not like I was really doing that bad, either...

If I had a N1 I would wait for the next gen phones before upgrading (end of year, early 2011). Unless you have to have the latest and greatest, then buy the Vibrant and get the next gen when it comes out as well.

Here's a new vid that just came out,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPtV8I2BRQ&feature=player_embedded#!

I sold my n1 for this. I think its a good upgrade... there's a few things I miss but the fact that its harder to replace since I can get it replaced in stores and Google's done making em..
Also I needed a true MT screen and the gpu. Other than that I thing there pretty even. Oh and this gorgeous screen....

Non-rooted Nexus One can't do 720p.. but if you root it and apply the hack (or ROM includes it) then it can do 720p recording on the Nexus.

The Vibrant cannot do 720p playback, the resolution of the phone can only do 480p at the most. It can play 720, but it will have no benifit vs a 480 version of the same clip. The nexus can play the same resolution clips that the vibrant can, but the vibrant has more video codecs to play.

I wouldn't have gone from N1 to Vibrant. There is not enough of a difference

I have the N1 and won't be changing. I bought a Vibrant for dev at work and thought I might switch personally but you currently give up as much as you gain. The positives are listed above, but you lose:
-froyo (for now)
-trackball (nice sometimes)
-camera flash
-future 'first' Android updates
Plus, the annoying home button lag is real. Sounds like the only way to currently fix is is rooting and moving over all the apps to NAND, which negates the app storage advantage (which was initially my biggest want).

Seraph321 said:
I have the N1 and won't be changing. I bought a Vibrant for dev at work and thought I might switch personally but you currently give up as much as you gain. The positives are listed above, but you lose:
-froyo (for now)
-trackball (nice sometimes)
-camera flash
-future 'first' Android updates
Plus, the annoying home button lag is real. Sounds like the only way to currently fix is is rooting and moving over all the apps to NAND, which negates the app storage advantage (which was initially my biggest want).
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- Trackball: Swype has a trackball in it.. sort of but works well
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- Camera flash: People exaggerate the importance of it but really its not even needed.. Check: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/is-the-samsung-vibrant-night-mode-a-worthwhile-replacement-to-flash/
- Future 'first' Android update: thats what rooting is for. CyanogenMod6 is in the works on being ported to Vibrant with WesGarner (well known dev) working on it.

Droid 2 versus Droid Incredible

Well, the D2 came out today, and I'm still within my 30 days return window... I'm wondering what people think about swapping the Dinc out for the new D2? I like the Incredible because of its screen, but the bump-charge battery and lack of QWERTY slider is a bit suckage. What would you do?

The d2 has a 720 mhz processor...thats a downgrade.
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The d2 has a 720 mhz processor...thats a downgrade.
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That shows it as a TI OMAP 1ghz.

partizan81 said:
Well, the D2 came out today, and I'm still within my 30 days return window... I'm wondering what people think about swapping the Dinc out for the new D2? I like the Incredible because of its screen, but the bump-charge battery and lack of QWERTY slider is a bit suckage. What would you do?
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Camera > downgrade
Processor > extremely slight upgrade
Keyboard > Hate the physical keyboard causing the device to be larger
Root / Roms > nobody knows if this will be possible to unlock (like the droid x) and you also have to wait for root now, if it's even possible

It's also worth noting that the Droid 2 has a much better GPU then the Incredible. If flashing ROMs is important to you I'd think long and hard before switching. If not I'd say go for it.

Yeah, it really comes down to what you like more. Also I don't know if you've had experience with Motoblur before, but since the Droid 2 is not an HTC phone, you will be getting Motoblur instead of Sense as the UI. I have a good feeling it will be rooted in time, as I'm sure it's going to be a popular product so lots of devs will be playing with it.
The Droid 2 GPU smokes the DInc, however there really aren't a lot of applications that can take advantage of that right now and I can't tell you if that is going to change in the future or not. Also do you care about having a hardware keyboard vs a soft kb? If you plan on texting, e-mailing, inputting a lot of data then that should seal the deal.
If you are looking for an answer like "Which phone is better?", then I can't give you that since it's mostly based on personal preference. Yes the Droid 2 has come out later so it is more advanced (except for the fact that I haven't heard a lot of positive feedback about Motoblur) and even though the camera might have a fewer MP count, based on the data I've read you will still be able to achieve the same if not better quality pictures than with the DInc (which requires a lot of manual option settings to get an optimal picture in most cases), plus it comes with some cool video features =).
I would skim over the differences between the two and not focus so much on statistics and more of how you would use the phone on a daily basis, then decide based on that which phone allows you to do such things the easiest.

the Dinc is the best and last of the fully NAND unlocked 1 ghz androids (for VZ anyway). It would take a serious hardware upgrade like a 1.5 ghz process with Wi-Di or HDMI output without discrimination against DRM protected material to get me to make a switch. But that's largely because I value having a fully unlocked OS over most anything else. I also had the option to get the Droid X and didn't get it if that tells you anything.

Incredible all the way; Motorola doesn't know how to make quality phones. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/droid-2-review/

HTC Zeta, 2.5GHz Quad-Core CPU & ICS

HTC Zeta rendered, rumored to pack 2.5GHz quad-core CPU and Ice Cream Sandwich
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We just got handed imagery and specs of a possible HTC device in the works codenamed the Zeta. It's a quad-core handset, much like the Edge that was leaked last week, but it has a much faster 2.5GHz APQ8064 CPU along with 1GB of RAM running the show, on a 4.5-inch 720p HD display. According to our source, the uniquely shaped smartphone will come with Ice Cream Sandwich pre-installed with Sense UI (version 4.0 wasn't specified, but we'd be surprised to see it any lower on an ICS device) and have 32GB of internal storage space, an 1,830mAh battery, Beats Audio, Bluetooth 4.0, an 8MP rear camera with dual LED flash, 1080p video capture and a 1.3MP front-facing cam. Dimensions? We have those, too: the Zeta is said to measure at 109.8 x 60.9 x 9.8mm (4.32 x 2.4 x 0.39 inches) and weigh 5.15 ounces (146g). Pricing and availability aren't known, and we're still digging for more info. It certainly has an intriguing look; the sharp corners would be a huge departure from HTC's recent design choices, though it appears to have HTC's signature unibody build in the back. So are we just looking at a cool concept or is this the next flagship phone? We're hoping it's the latter.
Source: Engadget

can we merge these two? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348603

kioshi said:
can we merge these two? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348603
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Crap...goes to show how well I looked over the page. I wouldn't have created this thread had I seen that one.

justsayinbro said:
Crap...goes to show how well I looked over the page. I wouldn't have created this thread had I seen that one.
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No worries man. It happens.
Yours has the image embedded, which is more suitable for lazy people like myself

Lol. Thxz.
Zeta looks to be kick ass. Battery is stepped up nicely as well (for HTC).

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Crap...goes to show how well I looked over the page. I wouldn't have created this thread had I seen that one.
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Haha, it's all good man, I like the picture in there better too.
Anyways, this thing looks sharp! I wonder how it'd feel to actually hold it though. And 2.5GHz, quad-core is a ridiculous amount of processor power for a phone, it's crazy.

Yeah and the 2.5ghz??? My laptop sits at 2.1ghz...I could probably use Solidworks or Adobe Illustrator off of this phone sitting in class haha.
I wish they would up the camera sensors on it and bump up to Asia's megapixel and lens technology...13 megapixels and LUMIX lens~

kioshi said:
Yeah and the 2.5ghz??? My laptop sits at 2.1ghz...I could probably use Solidworks or Adobe Illustrator off of this phone sitting in class haha.
I wish they would up the camera sensors on it and bump up to Asia's megapixel and lens technology...13 megapixels and LUMIX lens~
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They should just make it a damn tablet with these specs, lol. Give it about a 2-inch bigger screen, it'll pass as a nice small, powerful, tablet

This would be more powerful then my laptop. I think its time to get a new one.
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all we need there is USB port, and joystick ti stick in it and play PES

I didn't see this thread, I post another one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19403897#post19403897

also needs hdmi out,gorilla glass,3d camera and display like the supersonic

nice baby
Amazing, powerful, will wait to see more to comes up to 2012.

wait this is for a PHONE? Holy crap ..... this would be better off in a tablet I think ... bt hey, some people crave power, so why not sell it to them?

This will probably be my next phone

FPS capped at 59 with every kernel or tweak

I have a problem,my nexus 7 (as the title suggests) will not pass 59 fps. I've tried various roms,kernels and tweaks.
I'm not New to android and my sensation gets 70+ fps benchmarking, anyone know of any reason for my woes?
Getting really annoying to be honest. My sensation is ranked #1 in its device section of antutu and I want to push the nexus just as far

bonesy said:
I have a problem,my nexus 7 (as the title suggests) will not pass 59 fps. I've tried various roms,kernels and tweaks.
I'm not New to android and my sensation gets 70+ fps benchmarking, anyone know of any reason for my woes?
Getting really annoying to be honest. My sensation is ranked #1 in its device section of antutu and I want to push the nexus just as far
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thats how it is, 59fps is the limit. kernel developers can raise the panel frequency, which can raise the fps to 109. but its not real, so they stopped doing that. what was your highest antutu, i bet i beat it with my n7. anyways, your 59fps on your n7 is is better than what you get on your sensation, you failed to take in account screen size, more pixels to push.

Thanks for the reply, i get 8229 with my sensation clocked at 1836mhz and with my N7 clocked at 1800mhz i get 9815 on antutu. Seems a bit naff to be quite frank, my dual core phone can nearly bench the same as the Tegra quad. I found some kernels with the fps limit disabled and i still only get 59 fps

bonesy said:
Thanks for the reply, i get 8229 with my sensation clocked at 1836mhz and with my N7 clocked at 1800mhz i get 9815 on antutu. Seems a bit naff to be quite frank, my dual core phone can nearly bench the same as the Tegra quad. I found some kernels with the fps limit disabled and i still only get 59 fps
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i get 12000-16000 on antutu depending which kernel im using(and cpu speed), at 59fps. but its the screen size really that is the difference. and antutu isnt a good benchmark for graphic performance. its outdated and the test itself limits the scores.
here, nearly twice your sensation.. id say youre using the wrong rom/kernel
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Thats more like what i expect the score to be like! Just to check without starting a thread.... Is the latest bootloader 3.34?
To be fair i am severely disappointed with this device, never had any problems with any if the HTC devices and within 3 days of owning this the micro usb cable has fallen apart, the screen has lifted in one corner and is displaying stress marks on the LCD trying to contact google or asus is becoming a stressful task.
What ROM is eveyone using? I'm guessing cyanogenmod??

I just run stock. It doesn't matter what rom/kernel I wind up running, it never seems to be as stable in the long term as the stock setup. Since I have bought my N7 I have flashed a ton of roms to it, when heading back to stock for a while out of boredom I found that I have an up time of well over a month now. I never got that lucky with custom roms after a week or two I always had to reboot it because of random issues including lagging and slow performance, to apps misbehaving.