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Ok, Ive got a Droid X and I love it hands down.
I honestly have no real complaints about it. But the Fascinate came out and although it has a slightly smaller screen and less mega pixel camera and no HDMI.
But the Fascinate display blows the DX out of the water. I know it is a Super AMOLED and thats cool.
But I ran Linpack on both my DX and the Fascinate and they both got around 1160-ish
I ran Quadrant Advanced and got around 1150 up to 1220's
But with Quadrant, the Fascinate only got around 900
So i guess my question is how many of you would let this deter you from changing out to the Fascinate and keeping the DX?
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I had the X when it first came out got it rooted and tweaked out as of current. Then I exchanged at verizon for the Fascinate. Don't get me wrong the x is still a good phone but the fascinate is better.
* camera on the fascinate is better (not talking about megapixels im talking about real world use.)
*video is shot at 30fps
*screen is better, fascinate is only .3 of an inch smaller hardly noticeable.
* no encrypted bootloader
* no moto blur
* better GPU for graphics
* higher rated processor then any processor on the market.
* long battery life, my personal use I was able to get 13 hours med/heavy use .
* lighter
>>> my x distorted alot of my apps it had to stretch out the picture to fit the long and skinny screen. Very pixelated.
>>> pretty much the X has three mics and dual antennas. The rest the fascinate kills it.
>>> right now I believe the fascinate will get more support then the X because of its specs, and lack of limitations. You will soon see a full cyanogen port for the fascinate, can't say the same for the X.
-Via Fascinate Courtesy Of Tapatalk

Yeah, the encrypted BL was something that always bothered me with Motorola and the DX. I lime being able to make my own ROMs as i did with WiMo and sad to say, Motorola didn't make it as easy. Thanks for the comparisons. It really helps.

weedahoe said:
Ok, Ive got a Droid X and I love it hands down.
I honestly have no real complaints about it. But the Fascinate came out and although it has a slightly smaller screen and less mega pixel camera and no HDMI.
But the Fascinate display blows the DX out of the water. I know it is a Super AMOLED and thats cool.
But I ran Linpack on both my DX and the Fascinate and they both got around 1160-ish
I ran Quadrant Advanced and got around 1150 up to 1220's
But with Quadrant, the Fascinate only got around 900
So i guess my question is how many of you would let this deter you from changing out to the Fascinate and keeping the DX?
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Note on the benchmarks you posted that the Fascinate has a higher cpu and gpu score out of the box. The I/O can be attended to via lag fix, or hopefully by an upcoming update. If not, I have faith it will be corrected via various roms on a go forward.
Once 2.2 hits both, the difference is going to be very, very noticeable.

The hummingbird is an amazing SoC. It blows away Ti's current offerings and even the next gen qualcomms are playing catchup. The SGX 540 will be king of the hill for a good few months to come, so I'm a happy phone whore right now

Best Quadrant Score?

Hey guys I was just wondering what's your best Quadrant score you've had on your HD2? I got what I think is a fairly high quadrant score today and I was fairly impressed.
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i think 2300 or 2700 somewhere in between

I don't know the reasoning behind it, but from what lots of others have said, Quadrant scores are totally irrelevant. I can only assume it's because we're using ported software, rather than something that was built specifically for our devices. That's my guess anyway.

You beat my score!

johncmolyneux said:
I don't know the reasoning behind it, but from what lots of others have said, Quadrant scores are totally irrelevant. I can only assume it's because we're using ported software, rather than something that was built specifically for our devices. That's my guess anyway.
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Not totally irrelevant, but sometimes close to it. Quadrant standard is useless, pro is a little better.
The problem with Quadrant is:
1) Disk IO test, if you try some of the builds with very high score you'll see it's coming from IO, you can just mount that one part that Quadrant use in RAM, get crazy high score, but that won't speed up any other apps/system as you still use your NAND/SD card
2) Video speed, as on early Darkstone builds video score was very low as that build had something turned off (because with it's ON there were other bugs), but all apps were using some other API for video, so only Quadrant was slow on it
3) Quadrant tests doesn't show real system performance, so higher score might have no increase in speed in other apps. For example you can put newest CPU on your PC, but having only 256mb RAM would make everything slow, no matter how fast your CPU is, but CPU score would be higher
This doesn't mean that Quadrant is bad, in my opinion if you're using pro version and you get some component score (for example CPU score) higher on one build then on other - that's good. If you get total score higher, build might be actually slower then other build with low score.

this is the old 1.32... at 1200mhz cedes sd build.
with the new 1.72... dhd base i get max 5000 cpu points and approx 5000 I/O points with data on ext4 partition. that makes 2400 overall quadrant points. at 998 mhz. but if i put all data to nand the I/O points are 1250, but the device feels faster and boots faster. for now i only put app folder on the ext4 partition, dalvik and data remain on internal memory. i am still testing whats the best combo, it takes lot of time

johncmolyneux said:
I don't know the reasoning behind it, but from what lots of others have said, Quadrant scores are totally irrelevant. I can only assume it's because we're using ported software, rather than something that was built specifically for our devices. That's my guess anyway.
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I think your right there.
I don't use Quadrant much but i got over 3000 before (using Darkstones SUPERAM)

Mine was when I didn't even overclock the CPU.
Thought that was pretty good, I usually get about 1600.
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Skellyyy said:
Mine was when I didn't even overclock the CPU.
Thought that was pretty good, I usually get about 1600.
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thats not bad man what build do you have on your phone?

SuperNAND got about 4000.
Proof:
Someone beat this . Quadrant scores are garbage, it proves nothing.

jonny68 said:
thats not bad man what build do you have on your phone?
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As I'm on my phone right now I can't get the link but its the DHD build by Andrew something. Should be on the first page in the NAND forum.
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Quadrant Advanced scores!!!!

samsung galaxy s quadrant advanced scores 1.2 ghz custom rom ext 4 fps uncapped
Total 2014
Cpu. 1691
Mem 1780
I/o. 5359
2d. 359
3d. 1027
samsung galaxy s2 quadrant advanced scores 1.2 ghz stock rom
Total 3381
Cpu. 7046
Mem 3823
I/o. 3929
2d. 888
3d. 1199
Im getting it! Lol

7000 for CPU?!

screenshot or link would be nice

demo23019 said:
screenshot or link would be nice
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I think it's this one:
Yep it is:
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-galaxy-s-2-benchmark-tests.html

Yeah that's the link. Wait until the devs get a hold of this phone and tweak the I/o speed, uncap the gpu and of the cpu. Imagine the score then. Sanding as redeem themselves from the behold 2 and the gps issues of the original sgs. IT ALSO SCORED A 47 MFLOPS IN LINPACK IN 1.55s. BEASTING.

MikeyMike01 said:
7000 for CPU?!
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Yeah seems rather weak, get over 7500 on a stock tegra 2.

KingKuba13 said:
Yeah seems rather weak, get over 7500 on a stock tegra 2.
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Try comparing GLBenchmark scores
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golf2vr6 said:
I think it's this one:
Yep it is:
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-galaxy-s-2-benchmark-tests.html
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Rotating planets missing textures , there is not suppose to be pale planets and white background. Also reports of several high profile games not working...
I really wish Samsung used Nvidia tegra or PowerVR SGX , those two companys were in GPU business long time they can write proper GPU drivers , mali is peace of crap.

Quadrant standard works ok, and Advanced worked for me after a few runs. Im sure these issues will be fixed in later firmware releases.

Take a look at this if you think Mali is inferior to Tegra.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060416
Oh and in my experience Quadrant is flawed. Badly.
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rovex said:
Quadrant standard works ok, and Advanced worked for me after a few runs. Im sure these issues will be fixed in later firmware releases.
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Its actually issue with Quadrant. Quadrant advanced and professional editions are stuck at version 1.1.6 which is known to have issues with phones running Gingerbread ROMs like SGS2.
So those scores are flawed.
Standard edition has been upgraded to version 1.1.7 which works without these issues with gingerbread. Ironically those who paid are left in ditch at the moment with lack of update

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lol quadrant

Makes sense. Its probably why Advanced gives me consistently 5 to 10% lower scores. The textures do seem unstable, sometimes they work, sometimes not.

MaBlo said:
Take a look at this if you think Mali is inferior to Tegra.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060416
Oh and in my experience Quadrant is flawed. Badly.
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Checkout Smartbench 2011 Gaming.....
All these benchmarks should be take with a grain of salt.
Anyone have a SG s2 with tegra 2 tested yet?
With 2.3 and less pixels to push should have interesting results.

KingKuba13 said:
Checkout Smartbench 2011 Gaming.....
All these benchmarks should be take with a grain of salt.
Anyone have a SG s2 with tegra 2 tested yet?
With 2.3 and less pixels to push should have interesting results.
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i wonder if samsung is going to cap the frame rate on the tegra 2 version of the phone?

Desire Z vs Galaxy S performance

I've just saw Galaxy S Antutu Benchmark screens that had 3900 score @ ~~1400MHz and I'm wondering why our device even if it's pretty similiar does score only 2900 ? It's a huge difference.
Even oldie like tuned Xperia X8 can score 2400 which isn't even ARMv7 and has 256MB RAM with older GPU.
I'm a bit disappointed by our ROMs, because there are many of them but none is perfect. ILWT seemed to me the best (and it is), but has lower score than ARHD, which needs swap and many improvements to work smoothly and it isn't still capable running games like GTA3, MC3, ICS can't run them too because phone just reboots (ICS is in beta stage so I'm not looking at stability yet, but that's bad ).
ILWT result in best performance as for GTA3, this game was running great.
Here's screen of SGS Antutu:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg855/scaled.php?server=855&filename=1331989260894.jpg&res=medium
X8 (for reference, score is without sdcard): http://iv.pl/images/61942066283720320721.png
and our Desire Z's in this thread, which is highest
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560772
Why devs won't focus on improving performance? schedulers, more oc values, governors isn't everything, why then SGS can get 2x more score in RAM if it has 512MB too. Overclocking in SGS by 100MHz steps improve score by ~200, and in Desire Z it looks like it's not working as good because I didn't noticed that BIG boost, just ~50pts. I know it's not that easy to develop, but we're alot behind with performance than SGS.
SGX540 is probably better GPU and there's other processor, but if stock software had 3000pts in SGS, and they(devs) managed it to improve by 1000pts our had 2600 and got improved by 300 only.
I try to be optimistic, as I respect all the work done by developers. Every software IMO is good for everyday usage, but well, by modding I though it could be bit better

I am just dropping my two cents here, but I think that the devs go by the thought that benchmarks are - as Microsoft put it - not relevant to real day-to-day use scenarios. A phone with awesome benchmarks (or a ROM such as ARHD) may act quite sluggishly and crappily in day-to-day usage without a ton of tweaks and stuff (like ARHD does).
So, you see... the mechanic tells you that you can get 300km/h in your new Toyota, but at 160km/h the wind is screeching in the inside of the car so loud that you would *not* want it to go to 300/h.
I hope you understand my analogy. The point is - take benchmark results with a grain of salt.

I know what you mean, also saw people talking about desire z being smoother than sgs in stock config, but also there's something that sgs devs did if scores went over 25% higher

As far as I know:
benchmark =! reality
And the desire Z is worse than sgs, the gpu is worse, don't know about cpu, the ram may be different not only from how much it is (even if I've seen they're both ddr1)
Apart from this I'm not saying that we'd better have not more than 10 roms and more devs trying to add something very new to the phone. We've many ICS roms, many cyano roms, many sense 3.5 roms, many ics sense roms, many miui roms. I'd rather have two of each group and ie usb host or something a bit trickier... I mean, with all the respect possible for developers of every kind, hacking is becoming not hacking anymore, I mean everyone can with a bit of knowledge make his own rom (I remember of people under fifteen...). But hacking, imo, is when siul, OdienManSam, taz were trying to port ICS, all the work that many here are doing making things work in ics (Flinny, blk_jack), what on One X forums people are trying to do to gain S-OFF, when OdienManSam was trying to port usb host (will never know if he succeded)... I think there's much more juice to squeeze from our phones, less people willing to do it...
I'm not deplorating devs works, just my opinion...

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I'd say that it's pretty close to what the SGS performed in the benchmark (considering I was actually playing music whilst testing). Regardless, benchmarks are indeed far from everyday use scenarios.

Andromadus @ 1.2GHz. As the dude above me states, our device really doesn't score that much lower all things considered.
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Mine is at 3400, too with Andromadus ICS ROM @1,2GHz. And tested up to 1,6GHz running stable. So I have some reserves if I like, but it´s smooth enough at 1,2GHz, so why bother?
Mike

Antutu Benchmark?

Anyone else? I got 67,240 in 64bit mode on first and over 68k in 2nd. Finally figured out the screen shot.
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aaronc_98 said:
Anyone else? I got 62,740 in 64bit mode.
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WOW....Screenshot?

Hrm... that's actually a little on the low side compared to some of the numbers it was putting up on review units. Most of those I saw were hovering around 70,000.
Definitely curious to see what other folks pull.

aaronc_98 said:
Anyone else? I got 62,740 in 64bit mode.
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I'm not brave enough to install that unsigned apk. I did score almost 58k in the standard antututu. Too be honest both these numbers are a lot lower then what I was thinking. Most of the results were on par with the exynos 5420 other then the mali gpu which scored nearly 20k (double the 5420 mali). Even the storage io numbers weren't radically different Despite their claims of high performance internal storage.
Anyways benchmarks usually only tell a small part of the story and there could be other things at play here that I have yet to discover. I'm hoping we see kernel source for this device soon.

I think this kind of benchmark is more useful and interesting as it correlates with something in real-life, like actual use of the device:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHb6IlmmV2o

Here's mine for those that care.

Do you have any battery temperature readings when running the Antutu?

Hehe, I see there was a typo in your original measurement
Good stuff. Looks like the retail units are definitely up to snuff. Keep em coming guys.

Poetique said:
Hehe, I see there was a typo in your original measurement
Good stuff. Looks like the retail units are definitely up to snuff. Keep em coming guys.
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Yes, I went back and edited it cuz I saw I'm a bit dyslexic apparently...

this was the very first run in 64 bit mode, non 64 bit was 64508,

67282 with 64bit, sorry that is such a large screenshot

Here is my score, with all my apps installed 37+!

iGordy101 said:
Here is my score, with all my apps installed 37+!
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It really is a beast! My friend has this phone, but I have the HTC M9 and it only gets 60927 on AnTuTu. In fairness though, the CPU only goes up to 1.5 GHz on little core + 2.0 GHz on the big core while Exynos has it 1.6+2.2 and 20 nm process

theveterans said:
It really is a beast! My friend has this phone, but I have the HTC M9 and it only gets 60927 on AnTuTu. In fairness though, the CPU only goes up to 1.5 GHz on little core + 2.0 GHz on the big core while Exynos has it 1.6+2.2 and 20 nm process
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Yeah man, this is really a beast and so beautiful!

theveterans said:
It really is a beast! My friend has this phone, but I have the HTC M9 and it only gets 60927 on AnTuTu. In fairness though, the CPU only goes up to 1.5 GHz on little core + 2.0 GHz on the big core while Exynos has it 1.6+2.2 and 20 nm process
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the qualcomm 810 is 20nm process, exynos is 14nm

Everything stock, out of the box

lowest i scored is 67.5k, highest is around 69.5

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Andi1000 said:
Everthing stock, out of the box
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Yeah I think I got the highest score than any phone I ever owned on stock out of the box near 80000 hahah I was so scared lol

Out of box, playstore app full update, latest ITV (Vodafone) update