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I just read this and so I'm hoping we get Froyo soon too. Hopefully we will.
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/22/htc...-desire-and-legend-within-the-next-two-weeks/
Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
Vandam500 said:
Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
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I don't know but I hope we get it.maybe that's why google is updating all their apps. Google maps is also getting a update.
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We should definitely be getting it on the EVO... the only question is how soon???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3U2GXhz44
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correction....the Desire and Legend do have the SenseUI. The Nexus is stock, Vanilla Android.
itmustbejj said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
The key is the Desire and Legend aren't locked to carriers, and don't have to go through the US carrier dance whenever they want to release an update.
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
pixelpop said:
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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That would be a very beautiful thing if you are right. They would be killing multiple birds with one stone then. Almost seems to logical for htc and sprint though so i doubt this will be the case
Things needed for a fully working Froyo Build on the EVO
1 2.6.32 kernel source with drivers for the EVO. (Not Available)
2 Evo Vendor Files needed for Froyo source (Not Available)
3 Froyo Source
pixelpop said:
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
asrebel said:
HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
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If the LCD is running off of the MDDI interface, there is no way to fix it. MDDI 1.1 has a 30hz limitation. End of story.
Doesn't it stand to reason that HTC must at least wait for google to finish Froyo before HTC can release it? Perhaps HTC is able to begin designing their Sense UI while awaiting a final build of Froyo, but I doubt they'd release 2.2 for their devices based upon a beta-build of Froyo.
I certainly hope that we see an official HTC Froyo release asap, though once it's available I will wait to see what the XDA community is able to do to preserve root, and eagerly await some optimized ROMs based on an official release of Froyo.
In the meantime, I love my Evo and am enjoying it thoroughly. I just wish we'd get some 4G down here in the big-easy.
Battery issues aside, I picked up one of the chinese battery/charger bundles on ebay for $11 shipped. I don't mind carrying 2 spare (albeit, probably lower mAH) batteries for extended weekend excursions.
Vandam500 said:
Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
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G1/Dream
MyTouch 3G/Sapphire/Magic/Ion/etc...
There are more than just the N1.
Does anyone has a clue about when Froyo will be available for Aria?
I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
saint168 said:
I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
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I am hoping we'll be able to port the Legend Rom with a great deal of success once it is available. I will be looking into an unbranded 2.1 Legend ROM port for the Aria next.
eh it was just released... wouldn't expect to hear about a 2.2 release for at least a few months probably more.
Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
ryusen said:
Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
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As saint168 said, I wouldn't hold your breath. What will happen is HTC will say "we expect a Froyo update for the Aria by Christmas!" and then the day before Christmas they will say "We expect a Froyo update for the Aria by the end of February!" and then we won't see an update except in Taiwan in June.
I am going by the official Eclair update for the GSM Hero of course.
attn1 brought up a factor, as most likely we will be seeing mostly stable 2.2 Roms within the next six months or so for the Aria that will probably make the frustrations of any promised official update increase.
Shad0wguy said:
Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
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Or perhaps not remove it outright, but to figure out how to make it billable to the tune of extra $20 per month on top of "DataPro" data plan, as they've done it with iPhone 4/iOS4.
Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
jaex said:
Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
sentinel79 said:
Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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Man this is like night and day coming from the Xandroid community (new android features seem to take months to develop).
I too prefer AOSP which I used on the Xandroid builds (tested on my Pure) and I had Launcher Pro installed which I think is LEAGUES better than Sense.
I'm extremely excited to learn more about flashing android roms. Don't know anything about it yet but I saw Aria's already been rooted.
I do appreciate the WVGA of the Pure but this Aria really isn't THAT different in quality (seems more colorful though). Gotta get a screen protector from AT&T ... will have to wade through crowds of iPhone sheep no doubt.
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AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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I think you're confusing Android 2.2 (FroYo) with HTC's user interface (Sense).
cyanogenmod is based on pure AOSP code - no Sense UI.
I just completed a port of a MyTouch3G rom to the Aria. Wifi doesn't work, and my touch keys don't work. I am sure those are simple fixes. Eugene probably has answers to some of those issues, but it stands to reason that when CM 6 is released for the MTS3G, we can begin work on a port for the Liberty (Aria).
Froyo runs... it's just a matter of someone who knows what they're doing fixing all of the drivers and a few other things.
big file here
CM6 is coming soon I think!
"release later this weekend" ... running out of time but this is exciting.
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/sneak-peek-at-cyanogenmod-cm6-test-build-on-g1-and-nexus/
So what does the release of CM6 mean for us?
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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jznomoney- Read that
Sorry. Wrong thread.
im fairly new to roms, rooting, and changing/upgrading UI's and I'd love to have the new desire hd's sense UI on my stock evo 4g but I can't find a download for it..can somebody please help me find a download that doesn't involve rooting my evo?
I haven't looked into this super heavily but last I heard the Desire Sense source code was still being poked and prodded, I don't think there's anything available yet for the evo!
:'( I still got my fingers crossed for a port
Sent from my EVO's 4G You?........I thought so
dkp6676 said:
im fairly new to roms, rooting, and changing/upgrading UI's and I'd love to have the new desire hd's sense UI on my stock evo 4g but I can't find a download for it..can somebody please help me find a download that doesn't involve rooting my evo?
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You will not find what you're looking for. If such a download existed (I don't know, I haven't looked), you would need to root to apply it. The only way you'll get the new Sense without rooting is if/when HTC and Sprint release an approved update that contains it. I think it's likely they will, as this is still a flagship phone. Maybe as a part of a Gingerbread update. But I'm sure it's still a few months away.
Until then, if it were to be ported to the Evo by the folks here, you'd need to root.
There's plenty of Desire HD/Z roms floating around. I've used them all, but I don't think any had working 4G, or cameras working.
We're going to have to wait a while.
htc show new gui for sense 2.3.3, great features! (see YT link).
im wonder, do we get it on the next ota ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8azvr03z4
Thats very nice!
I'm assuming this will come with the DHD 2.3 update
Yummy!
Look forward to using that in the future.
Nice phone too.
cant wait
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What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
It lags on a 1,2Ghz DualCore... I hope this is NOT the final version...
But I really like the lockscreen!
AWBob said:
What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
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im SURE that when the roms hit for the evo 3g, rom developers for the DHD will be coaxing/ manipulating some features from there
All websites are stating that the Evo 3D gets Sense 2.1. Unless HTC are making to versions of 2.1 we'll get it to.
The current TestROMs of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 doesn't have those nice features, but they are TestROMs, so maybe HTC will include them on release.
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
First off, here's that link you wanted...
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
I really like that lockscreen in 3.0.
Also I guess its worth speculating over which gingerbread it will get. The rumors about the Droid X update had 2.3.3, but supposedly 2.4 is in the works.
As i said with Froyo, I'll believe this when I see it.
billandsebastian said:
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
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I think its "impossible" for us to get sense 3.0 because well its built to run on dual core phones as you see only two phones have been "announced" and not "released" that will run sense 3.0 and both have dual core 1.2 ghz processors and i dont think htc would give us sense 2.0 since sense 2.1 is so similar so if we get sense 2.1 or 2.0 it will be 2.1 because of it's similarities and thats only a slim chance that we will get sense 2.1 because we might stick with out original sense which will be very sad but as the other guy said if the incredible gets sense 3.0 i will also **** myself hehe.
PGleo86 said:
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
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Cheers!
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
I would imagine HTC would port Sense 2.0 to the Incredible, rather than working with Sense 1.0. That being said, I've been wrong before.
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
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And the clarification:
"Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will"
Perhaps Sense 2.1.1? Or 2.2?
Odds are we will be on sense 2.0. Engadget just posted an article saying that only the newwer phones will get 3.0 so that's a non-issue. HTC did say we will get gingerbread by end of 2nd qt 2011 so we should be good on that.
The big question is... will be it worth unrooting and loading back on all that bloatware for the 2.3 update?
I'm sure a couple of the devs around here will help all of us not make that decision.
We wont be getting Sense 3 thats for sure, but once again I don't really care what we get since I'm rooted and will always have the best stuff available before stock users
Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
incubus26jc said:
yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
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Hey incubus any chance of that getting ported to our incredibles?
I'm still happy with CM7 so IF we get it I probably won't install it.
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The evo got a leaked version with sense 1.0 so I will just assume that our phones will not receive anything better
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for me, the importang from official 2.3 from htc is, dev could get the driver2 that need for optimizing the kernel and rom (gpu, cam, etc)
badogg said:
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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I could be mistaken, but given that you can set S-off, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that you can always flash a custom recovery and then, flash a rooted ROM?
Besides, even if the update is "unrootable"... I have no doubt that smarter people than I will be able to find a way.