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Where are the ROM's?

We have so many ROM's for the G2 but no MT4G ROM's yet...what's going on devs? Show the MT4G some love please...I love my G2 and that's why I'd rather keep it in stock for when something happens to my MT4G...

Might be because we're still waiting for HTC to release the kernel?!!
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Omeer said:
We have so many ROM's for the G2 but no MT4G ROM's yet...what's going on devs? Show the MT4G some love please...I love my G2 and that's why I'd rather keep it in stock for when something happens to my MT4G...
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Jesus, the MT4G hasn't even been out two weeks yet and people are already like this. There will be roms but no developer is going to want to develop until they have the kernel source which will be released as htc has to release it they just don't have to have a set date or say when they will release it.
Just give it time.
HTC gives the source the devs will come...

Be patient... there is already Cyanogenmod in the works and as soon as the kernel source gets released there will be alot more work done to it. The phone has barely been out 2 weeks... give it time.

i was hoping with the mytouch being so similar to the desire hd that alot of that stuff would work with little to no modification like the z to g2 roms... is that true or are they not as close as i thought? i know they use different networks and have different rear cameras but what else is different about them hardware wise?

[Q] gingerbread?

has anyone heard any more speculation on what phones are gonna get gingerbread?

gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.

There are a lot less core differences between 2.2 and 2.3 than there were between 2.1 and 2.2. I would think the manufacturers would have an easier time upgrading them and the crapware on it.

Jjday7 said:
gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.
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Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.

teharchitekt said:
Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.
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True, but, don't know if you noticed that the Nexus One has yet to get an OTA Gingerbread OTA. There's a reason for that. The random rebooting issue could be to blame - but Google for Froyo (such a huge, huge change from 2.1 Eclair) pushed it out to Nexus One users like 2 weeks after announcing it. Huge. Quick.
Gingerbread will probably not come to existing devices. 2.4 (whether it is Ice Cream Sandwich or Gingerbread - who knows/cares) will probably be pushed out first. Don't expect any incremental updates to any existing device yet.
The reason the Xperia Play has 2.3 is because it's out in the AOSP and Sony Ericsson is just choosing to deploy the 2.3 code instead of 2.2. They have the right timeframe and want their device to appeal to the hardcore geeks.
Anyhow, no Gingerbread - especially not for the EVO 4G Shift anytime soon.

I'm hoping for updates to the Shift, i just got it, but i hate knowing there is a newer version somewhere lol

I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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NuAngel said:
I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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AOSP is where it's at.
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Edit: man I'm drunk. That took forever to type.

Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
Sent from my Evo Shift.

Aosp is android open source project, check out the cyanogen/evervolv roms and that's what aosp is

Waht is AOSP
bobtsunam said:
Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
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AOSP is default open source Android. Every manufacturer puts on their own overlay for HTC it is Sense and Motorola is Moto Blur. When you put an AOSP ROM on your phone it will be default android which is normally more efficient and more bare bones. For instance when you might not have all the functionality that you had with your stock setup. Personally I like how in Sense when I have my Google contacts set up in groups Sense se that and carries those groups over to my phone. When I put the evervolve or CM7 on my phone to test it out I lost that.
I don't know all the things that are different with an AOSP ROM but here are the things I have seen:
Contacts
Messaging app
Home Screen
Now I know there are more programs that are operate in the background that are included (just run titanium backup and look at all the ones that start with HTC) but I don't know what they do for the most part.
Also AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project.

I think I'll wait for a stable sense ROM to try gingerbread. I'm pretty sure I tried a bare bones ROM when I rooted my cliq and didn't like it. Definitely like having everything sync'd like contacts and such. Has anyone come up with something spectacular for a modded or themed stock ROM? Guess I could just go look...
Thanks everyone for the help. Really appreciate it.
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HTC Desire to get Android 2.3. How about Legend?

Found this in Phandroid.... http://phandroid.com/2011/02/17/coming-this-spring-android-2-3-for-the-htc-desire/
No announcement for Legend though.

w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!

dont ...
don't hold your breath for the improvements it's not really worth it especially for htc
download the 2.3 keyboard and you got 1/3 of the update
as 2.3 is mainly NFC support(dosnt apply) new keyboard(i person like htc's better cuz of the content text prediction) and improved copy and past

getan said:
w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
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Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.

Not gonna happen.

nxdu said:
Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
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I don't understand HTC... First what does that mean to use the same name of their concurrents for their new phones ??? Desire "S" ? wildfire "S" ?
serioulsy, are they thinking that people will buy their phone cause they thing of the SGS or the NS ?
Second, a new desire, a new wildfire, and no new Legend ? WTF ? It's the best design they got among their phones, and they still do some crappy plastic phone (ok it's a bit strong, not crappy).
A new Legend, more slim, maybe a bit bigger screen, new proc but still in one piece of aluminium and here we go, they would have sell that more than they will sell the wildfire "S" !
Anyway, the gingerbread roms will be available soon for Legend. There is CM7 RC, and when the wildfire S come out, some SENSE ROM will for sure be released...
Thanks to the the great developers we have the chance to have in the community !! Thx you all.

i think that Legend update will be announced... for me it about 85%
maybe after this spring

You remember how long it took HTC to announce an update to FroYo (It was about half a year after Google announced 2.2)
So if HTC will update the Legend to 2.3 it will probably be summer before they release it.

heard that a lot of devs don't think 2.3 is worth the R&D, so are waiting for 2.4.

The desire out sold the legend 10 fold on release this forum is bearly alive compared to the desire's. The wildfire sold like hot cakes because of the price so unless they priced the legend at £250-£275 it would fail just like this 1 did.
Don't get me wrong I would like to see a legend s but look at it from a marketing point of view an you will see why it makes no sense at all.
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I think that 2.3.2 is a big possibility for Legend, why you ask?
Well it is simple. Wildfire S is almost a clone of legend (600mhz, 3.2" and 480x320 screen) so the software will probably be easy to port over to Legend.
now the problem is operators. Do they rather want us to buy a new handset or upgrade.

yup... Agreed, the Legend forum is barely alive. There is only 2 almost perfected rom that is available. Unlike the desire forum, there's lots of goodies there =(

IMHO, update the htc legend to 2.3 (2.4 too) will not be.
Sorry for my english, please.

If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Why make these claims? They could very well turn round and give us a special release of 2.3 with the new Sense for the special 'few' who got the Legend, ya just never know!
My view is simple: Wait and see, and not make claims about us not getting 2.3. How many of you would still use 2.3 and HTC Sense? Most of us here are running custom ROM's anyway which don't use Sense....
Just saying...
FeaRThiS said:
If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Not for Voda Legends

For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and have rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...

I just want the new notification drop down down menu and the re arrangeable home screens from the new sense ..

segphault said:
For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and haveve rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
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I'm running CM7 full 3 (oh, full 4's out) with the radio upgrade from the dev forums, and it's pure awsome. gingerbread googness. battery life and speed are off the charts.
blayo's rom is very good, but i gotta say CM7's... gingerbread.
you'll loose flash lite, but the novelty wore off quickly for me.
lets be honest, it's pants.

new HTC Legend user
Hi, I have a new HTC Legend and i have read your posts, so i know that i can´t upgrade to 2.3. But if i want install some small aplications i need do something like hack software like in a NOKIA devices??
I would like some help.
Thanks

new and very nice GUI for the sense - DHD soon ?

htc show new gui for sense 2.3.3, great features! (see YT link).
im wonder, do we get it on the next ota ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8azvr03z4

Thats very nice!

I'm assuming this will come with the DHD 2.3 update

Yummy!
Look forward to using that in the future.
Nice phone too.

cant wait
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What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.

It lags on a 1,2Ghz DualCore... I hope this is NOT the final version...
But I really like the lockscreen!

AWBob said:
What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
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im SURE that when the roms hit for the evo 3g, rom developers for the DHD will be coaxing/ manipulating some features from there

All websites are stating that the Evo 3D gets Sense 2.1. Unless HTC are making to versions of 2.1 we'll get it to.
The current TestROMs of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 doesn't have those nice features, but they are TestROMs, so maybe HTC will include them on release.

Android Central: HTC Says 2.3 for DInc This Summer

Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]

First off, here's that link you wanted...
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...

I really like that lockscreen in 3.0.
Also I guess its worth speculating over which gingerbread it will get. The rumors about the Droid X update had 2.3.3, but supposedly 2.4 is in the works.

As i said with Froyo, I'll believe this when I see it.

billandsebastian said:
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
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I think its "impossible" for us to get sense 3.0 because well its built to run on dual core phones as you see only two phones have been "announced" and not "released" that will run sense 3.0 and both have dual core 1.2 ghz processors and i dont think htc would give us sense 2.0 since sense 2.1 is so similar so if we get sense 2.1 or 2.0 it will be 2.1 because of it's similarities and thats only a slim chance that we will get sense 2.1 because we might stick with out original sense which will be very sad but as the other guy said if the incredible gets sense 3.0 i will also **** myself hehe.

PGleo86 said:
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
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Cheers!
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/

I would imagine HTC would port Sense 2.0 to the Incredible, rather than working with Sense 1.0. That being said, I've been wrong before.

giantcrazy said:
Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
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And the clarification:
"Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will"
Perhaps Sense 2.1.1? Or 2.2?

Odds are we will be on sense 2.0. Engadget just posted an article saying that only the newwer phones will get 3.0 so that's a non-issue. HTC did say we will get gingerbread by end of 2nd qt 2011 so we should be good on that.

The big question is... will be it worth unrooting and loading back on all that bloatware for the 2.3 update?
I'm sure a couple of the devs around here will help all of us not make that decision.

We wont be getting Sense 3 thats for sure, but once again I don't really care what we get since I'm rooted and will always have the best stuff available before stock users

Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438

refthemc said:
Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706

I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.

incubus26jc said:
yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
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Hey incubus any chance of that getting ported to our incredibles?

I'm still happy with CM7 so IF we get it I probably won't install it.
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The evo got a leaked version with sense 1.0 so I will just assume that our phones will not receive anything better
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for me, the importang from official 2.3 from htc is, dev could get the driver2 that need for optimizing the kernel and rom (gpu, cam, etc)

badogg said:
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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I could be mistaken, but given that you can set S-off, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that you can always flash a custom recovery and then, flash a rooted ROM?
Besides, even if the update is "unrootable"... I have no doubt that smarter people than I will be able to find a way.