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Hi All,
I'm going to put this upfront, because it's more important than the FAQ. Though there names get repeated a bit in this post, a major credit goes to Koe & Appagom for providing a lot of know-how, testing, information sharing and answers to questions users have posted here. This thread wouldn't be half as valuable without them. They should probably consider getting donate links, as it's the popular thing to do around here anyways, and I'd surely give them a few 원 for some soju or their beverage/food of choice for enhancing my phone experience. If they do decide to do something like that, I'd encourage you to do the same if you've used their methods or have even delayed taking action until you saw and read about their successes, trials & tribulations before proceeding with anything risky.
Next important thing, please don't try to flash i9000 or any other SGS variant's firmware unless you are really prepared to experiment and fix your own problems.
I'm writing this because perhaps it will help us SHW-m110s users spread information and have a point of reference, perhaps even bookmark, to spread information specific to our phone. Many of our questions just get posted in the most recently replied to thread with the word "Korean" in it. Part of my goal will also be to provide an area that Korean users who speak little English will be able to post and have a discussion. I will start that process on my own and enlist help from others I know. Please feel free to contribute in any way you can in any of these areas.
With the Froyo update, I'd like to link to one of the more newsworthy and relevant development's due to increased system functionality we have at our disposal. Koe's guide on HowTo OpenVPN on the SHW-M110S (via StrongVPN and maybe others) can be found here Thanks KOE
Tested on FroYo firmware versions DI29 and SK05
Prerequisites:
rooted (I also recommend SuperUser)
busybox installed
You understand the benefits of being able to connect to a stateside OpenVPN server.
openVPN server account
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By request, other links to other guides or important topics available on XDA (or elsewhere) for the Galaxy S series if you haven't already come across them or just need a point in the right direction will be posted here. So, please let me know if you feel there is some other required reading before the test :
[REF] BIG FAQ! {Flash/Root HOWTO} {ADB&Tutorials} {T&T} {FW-Guide} [MUST READ!]
So, on with the FAQ/guide:
*please note, this is a highly work-in-progress thread and is meant to be supplemental to, not in place of, better, more refined guides featured in the I9000 board. I started to plan this about 24 hours ago but there continue to be questions asked out of place so I'm rushing this a bit
Where can I find ROM "(insert name)"?
How do I update my phone?
Can I put a ROM from the i9000 or another SGS family on this device?
What frequencies does the cellular radio operate on?
Does that make this a world phone?
What limited functionality have users experienced overseas?
How do I use Voice search in Korean?
What else is different from the I9000 and other versions of the SGS?
How do I root my phone?
Where is Samsung Apps/Samsung Apps store?
Are there any other ways to download games in Korea?
Does SK Telecom support OTA updates?
How do I work the DMB tuner?
Why aren't the Secret Codes aren't working?
Can I change the SMS character limit from 80 to 160 characters?
Can we get Social Hub on the phone?
I want the boot animation, do you have it?
This FAQ is terrible, but I have a question...
Where can I find ROM "(insert name)"?
Koe seems to have kept a good list, here.
How do I update my phone?
Download Kies 2.0 here > click on the magnifying glass to the right of "Kies" > click on the white button "Kies 다운로드" > run the file > install > important set your location (left box) to Korea (I assume this to be the default) and your language (right box) can be the language of your choosing.
Can I put a ROM from the i9000 or another SGS family on this device?
This is one of those, 'if you have to ask...stay far far away questions'. Essentially you can come in here if you want a suggestion on what ROMs we might be using at the time, but no, for the love of God don't ask about i9000 or other device ROMs. If you know how to get yourself out of a pickle you wouldn't even need to ask, and if you try and fail you'll be asking us to get you out.
Right now most users are content with z4mod, though there are some Korean ROMs that will be brought up from time to time.
What frequencies does the cellular radio operate on?
*To be updated*
Does that make this a world phone?
XDA users have reported some phone functionality in Russia and the Philippines. And know specific carriers in the US that the phone may/may not be compatible with, and if this will work for users in the EU. It seems that most people, if they have the right APN information, have gotten working this in a variety of countries though there will be at least some U.S. carriers that aren't available and potentially other non-standard frequency users. Still, if I were living in another country I'd probably only get this from a distributor who I'd be able to get a refund from if I couldn't get it working - anything else and you're doing so at your own risk.
What limited functionality have users experienced overseas?
User ulrauko has reported no data functionality on his device in Russia.
It is recommended to work with a local carrier to get APN information to enter into your settings in order to maximize phone functionality. Some users may continue to have 3G problems after this, it might be possible to check setting "data roaming" in wireless & network > Mobile networks, but it'd be wise to check with your carrier to see what happens if you end up roaming onto another carriers towers.
Users precious_mew has reported that he can't use MMS due to his carrier while chester_go has reported an inability for his phone to see his phone number requiring him to edit his phone number (to any number, not necessarily his actual number) to send SMS without any problems receiving SMS. Since then, Chester has been able to "program" his SIM by using the following method:
-Removing the SIM card
-Placing it in another phone that has the "My Number" option (I used an iPhone, heard that older Sony Ericssons work too.)
-Entering my own number in international format (+63917~) (Prior to this, "Unknown" was also shown in the iPhone.)
-Inserting the SIM back to the M110s.
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How do I use Voice search in Korean?
Voice Search can be changed in settings>voice & input>voice recognition settings>lanugage...
What else is different from the I9000 and other versions of the SGS?
For now, I assume that we have different cellular radios. Also, we have a T-DMB tuner. We were given different stock software, originally missing Swype and a few other things, since then we have received Swpye through a firmware upgrade. We do utilize different firmware for our SHW-m110s than the typical international versions.
How do I root my phone?
Appagom's Evolving, and well well-supported, Post.
Where is Samsung Apps/Samsung Apps store?
The Samsung Apps store in Korea is a subset of SK Telecom's store, I highly doubt this would be accessible overseas as I think it's SIM card dependent. There you will find a full version of Asphalt for a free download. Please note, some games, even western games such as Farm Frenzy only have Korean language menu, while Asphalt has both English and Korean. I'd also guess there is no 24 hour return policy, but any confirmation would be great, and I have to presume that charges will be added to your monthly phone bill. *As of Froyo SK has partially, and poorly, integrated part of their(?) app store into the marketplace in a separate tab called "SKT"
Are there any other ways to download games in Korea?
Being rooted will allow you to run MarketEnabler and fake a SIM code to be in one of a few countries. I don't think anyone on this thread knows the legality of such actions, so do so at your own risk.
*Note, as of Nov 15th, the Froyo update fast web installer is not functional. Will update if there is a change and I remember. Also, see Koe's guide to getting VPN working which can give you access to location restricted apps.
I hold out hope that fast web installer for AppBrain will be updated to work on the SGS, there are reports that some items such as GoogleEarth can be installed in this manner where users can't find the app in the marketplace.
There are also always "other ways" amongst them there are 3rd party sites such as slideme.org where you can find both paid and free games (some of which might not be available in the marketplace due to developer preference and/or marketplace restrictions). Slideme will work direct on the phone and you can also use it on your PC to download and sideload apps. As a matter of fact, games can be found by developers here at XDA which can be sideloaded. If you root your phone you will, hopefully, be able to use market enabler to sign as though you aren't in Korea (use wifi + airplane mode) and be able to download games directly from the marketplace. Additionally there are always the less legitimate ways.
Does SK Telecom support OTA updates?
User akbk84 reported to me in August that he did receive an OTA udpate. However, this was weeks after I had received my first, and I was perhaps on my 3rd or 4th update by then. He She (my apologies ) did, however, receive the most current update. I do not know what SK/Samsung plan going forward, perhaps just critical updates will be OTA. I personally have, and I kind of recall reading someone else might've, received an OTA camera update.
Update: In the t-store there is an app called T-Upgrade, we believe it is supposed to give OTA updates to the phone. After downloading it didn't help me get the newest FW, so I'll post further information when I hear of a success story.
How do I work the DMB tuner? The DMB tuner works best with the DMB antenna extended. Extend the DMB tuner, located on the top right of the phone above the power button.
The secret codes were changed, or removed from, or broken during, an August firmware update. For now, we will keep a running list of working secrete codes here:
TouchKey F/W Info - *#86824#
- Has an "F/W Update" Button
- Can set the "Menu" and "Back" key sensitivity
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SKT Admin menu (general settings, such as: network, system, sms, etc.)
From the dialer enter: 319712358
You will be prompted for a pasword: 774632
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thanks koe1974
Can I change the SMS character limit from 80 to 160 characters?
This seems to be a common question posed from people living outside of Korea. Handcent defaults to 160 characters before changing the message to an MMS, how this will affect your message setting and carrier costs have never been verified so please do some sort of conclusive test and update us. Within Korea, MMS/SMS have the same pricing and free allotment, so it doesn't seem to be necessary to have the 160 character difference, also I haven't heard anything about how this might affect the messages and how SKT would deal with and treat extra long SMS messages.
Can we get Social Hub on the phone?
As far as I know, no one has successfully extracted and loaded Social Hub onto our phones.
I want the boot animation, do you have it?
Yes, please go to this post for more information.
This FAQ is terrible, but I have a question...
Please ask, provide better answers, do whatever to help us improve our SHW-m110s experience.
Thanks all!
여기 한국어 faq 쓰겠습니다, 하지만 미국 사람 입니다. 그름, 한굴말 잘 못 합니다, 미안합니다.
i'm hoping the mods will create a subforum for this model, since they seem to be doing it for all the models
or instead of that, they should combine all the forums into one
no idea what their plans are, but it's really messy as it's right now
Agreed, if I wasn't busy writing this I might've actually posted a link in the Galaxy Tab forum regarding your proposal when I saw it pop up on my Google reader.
re. the unlimited data option. it is currently available. i called SKT a few days ago and changed my plan to unlimited.
steveohan said:
re. the unlimited data option. it is currently available. i called SKT a few days ago and changed my plan to unlimited.
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You are correct, this thread has paid for itself already!
i'm so envious.... USA and Korea, and many other countries already have unlimited data
but we in Canada still stuck with limited data
Ha, if I were still in the US I'd still be a bit jealous of the Korean system. U.S. buy a Galaxy S, get a gimped phone and be forced into a data plan (no FF camera, no tethering with the exception of Sprint in 4G areas). These days new contracts at the big two, AT&T and Verizon don't even get unlimited data IIRC (Verizon is implementing capped data, not sure on the timeframe)
In Korea you can buy a phone without a data plan, or a plan without a voice plan. Unlimited data plan with 200 texts and 300 minutes (I might've reversed those) is essentially less than half the price of the cheapest AT&T and Verizon plan with more than 1GB.
In summary, you can have:
contract free
no voice plan
no data plan
unlimited data on the super cheap
free tethering (not available on any carrier in the U.S. in the near future with the exception of Sprint but only on the 4G network)
Free wifi access points
Compared to Canada I pay less than 50CAD for my plan.
Also, not available on SKT, the carrier that has the SGS, but one more reason to be jealous of possibilities here...KT expands Wi-Fi coverage to all subways
I found these at an korean site.
It's used with odin to root the phone.
NOT TESTED
hope this help
link here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tml?id=tipn&no=80&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
i think we should link all the other relevant Korean Galaxy S question to this topic, for a quick and easy index
i'll add them here as i find them
Korean Galaxy S Missing Features and Laggy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731466
[Q] Updating a Korean Galaxy S on a Mac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766310
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761040
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761095
Korea Figures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758447
Official firmware DG07 pushed out in Korea via Kies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725407
Android 2.2 coming to Galaxy S. Starting with the Korean version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723713
[Q] m110s EDGE problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774508
Korean keyboard apk files from Korean Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778256
[Q] Samsung Galaxy S SMS Problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760159
Korean keyboard apk files from Korean Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778256
[Q] Need help on fixing boot.bin and Sbl.bin for my Korean Galaxy S (M110S)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790388
[Q] Anycall Galaxy stuck..>.> please HELP!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812106
Note: we (mods) are discussing the best way to combine/organize all the Galaxy S sections for ease of use.
In the meantime, I'm making this thread a sticky in this section for easy reference, 'till we determine if it will get it's own section in the long run.
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I found these at an korean site.
It's used with odin to root the phone.
NOT TESTED
hope this help
link here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tml?id=tipn&no=80&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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Your link is more recent than mine, I think there is some merits to using both, I think the method I have is safer and doesn't use ODIN but it'll take some research. I'll see if I can look into it tomorrow 3 am right now. In any case, I appreciate the search and the links.
*Edit* As I said before, I think the way I have posted is preferred by the Korean community, the most recent, popular hack going on there links to mine. According to the discussion at matp, I think there's a smaller chance of bricking with the method I posted. However, also like I said before, I think thought there might be merits to both, so I'll put your link on the front page as an option to those who want to use Odin. Either way, thanks again.
AllGamer said:
i think we should link all the other relevant Korean Galaxy S question to this topic, for a quick and easy index
i'll add them here as i find them
Korean Galaxy S Missing Features and Laggy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731466
[Q] Updating a Korean Galaxy S on a Mac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766310
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761040
Anycall Galaxy S?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761095
Korea Figures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758447
Official firmware DG07 pushed out in Korea via Kies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725407
Android 2.2 coming to Galaxy S. Starting with the Korean version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723713
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I definitely contemplated it, especially the most recently active thread. You have more experience here so I'll defer to your wisdom, so there wouldn't be much hard in essentially "bumping" those other threads by posting a link to here? Or is there another method that's preferable? The one thing about the most recently active thread was two people were having the same issue and I wasn't sure if they'd be in contact there. I definitely want them to be in contact in one place or the other, so bumping that might actually do them some good. I'll post the link there now.
One more question. I plan, or at least planned, on posting when we receive Froyo in a new thread (I think it'll at least give the community the "update is around the corner" feeling that they desperately crave) and they won't be going out of there way to be looking here. Also, it seems to be the general community practice, even posting rumors they here from some guy in a kiosk . Do you advise against me starting a new thread when that occurs? I could always still link here even though I think it'd be expected that a lot of the initial discussion would occur there.
thanks for the update sirphunkee , it's good to know the idea hasn't been dropped.
alovell83, feel free to create new topics for worthy information, as most likely people would like to add feedback, etc
you don't want everything in this topic, else it will become a big mess, so instead we'll use this stickied topic as an index for all new Korea SGS related topic discussions, and important announcements.
until we learn the fate of the Admin decision on how to improve the SGS family forums
Good to hear on both the integration and the sticky, sirphunkee, thanks! We're feeling more welcome here already! But now you make me wish I wrote a better thread, well, it's already Saturday here so I guess I can get to my planned improvements when I wake up. Hopefully work on getting a 3-button equipped SGS as well so I can get some better rooting info available. More importantly, I'll probably, finally, register at matpclub and tell them we have a special section over here and looking to share best practices with there community.
you might want to write up something for your fellow Koreans, about the trick to warm up the phone to enable the 3 button download mode.
I still can not believe it myself, but there have been mixed reports from people saying yes it works (3 buttons did not work before the heat), and no it doesn't work
so i'm really confused, but it's worth a try for a few guys that got the Korea SGS and got stuck because the ROM Flash failed
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thanks for the update sirphunkee , it's good to know the idea hasn't been dropped.
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Good to hear on both the integration and the sticky, sirphunkee, thanks! We're feeling more welcome here already! But now you make me wish I wrote a better thread, well, it's already Saturday here so I guess I can get to my planned improvements when I wake up. Hopefully work on getting a 3-button equipped SGS as well so I can get some better rooting info available. More importantly, I'll probably, finally, register at matpclub and tell them we have a special section over here and looking to share best practices with there community.
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No prob I too would love to see a better organization of all the Galaxy sections...and I think the odds are very good that the final structure will be at least very similar to what's been proposed in AllGamer's poll (which is what we're using as the reference in the mod discussions).
Anyway, thanks for both of your efforts on all this, it is very much appreciated by both myself and the other users around here!
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Your link is more recent than mine, I think there is some merits to using both, I think the method I have is safer and doesn't use ODIN but it'll take some research. I'll see if I can look into it tomorrow 3 am right now. In any case, I appreciate the search and the links.
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Since we can root the device, in theory we can easily fix the 70 chars limited sms and so on...
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Since we can root the device, in theory we can easily fix the 70 chars limited sms and so on...
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For people using the device outside of Korea, please fix for yourself. For domestic users who text alot, I wouldn't look for a fix, I'm under the impression you'll be charged for 4 texts if you use 241 bytes. While if you use MMS instead (the default when you go 81+ bytes) is counted as 1 message.
You need to have 3G on to send the MMS, which used to be annoying for me because I used to leave 3G off bc of 500mb limit, but they just started their unlimited data program so I now use 3G on 90% of the day.
In any case, do what is convenient for you.
Thanks for creating this thread alovell83.
Just to clear things out for FAQ #3, I was able to solve the issue PERMANENTLY by:
-Removing the SIM card
-Placing it in another phone that has the "My Number" option (I used an iPhone, heard that older Sony Ericssons work too.)
-Entering my own number in international format (+63917~) (Prior to this, "Unknown" was also shown in the iPhone.)
-Inserting the SIM back to the M110s.
There
PS I wasn't able to reply to you in the other thread, but 3G works now. I just had to enable data roaming on startup and use apndroid (avail. in market) to switch data on/off.
Hello,
I just got a Focus v.1.3 unlocked from AT&T.
I am living in Europe and my carrier is Vodafone.
It's unclear to me how updates work.
I currently have updated the phone to 7390 using Zune desktop app.
However no sign on the 7392, I've been checking about that.
I know that updates are delivered by the carrier and that AT&T doesn't deliver yet the 7392 update for Focus v.1.3
But, in the case of using the phone by Zune, shouldn't the updates be available?
Thanks in advance!
Anyone throw some thoughts?
Thanks
HKLM\System\Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator
Edit it and instead of "ATT-US" (original value) leave blank
You will get an update. I did and I have Focus v1.3, originally on AT&T.
After that update you can revert back to the original value.
Also, read my post here.
Thanks for your comment EnderPsp.
But I don't get it really.
Since you update by Zune, why isn't the phone getting the updates?
This what I don't understand.
andreiuc said:
Thanks for your comment EnderPsp.
But I don't get it really.
Since you update by Zune, why isn't the phone getting the updates?
This what I don't understand.
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Either take my word on it and do the suggested change in registry (you need to be unlocked for this) or wait until the carrier (AT&T) releases the update. Considering the nice timeframe they haven't yet, I'd say there is a good chance Mango will come directly before AT&T releases 7392 for v1.3
The phone isn't getting the update because the carrier has not relased it (for Focus v1.3). However, Microsoft has released it for all other unbranded phones and if you unbrand (modify the registry as I suggested), the phone will get the Microsoft update instead of AT&T update. There are two minor differences in AT&T/MS updates but the main bonus is you can update to Mango.
Btw, you don't need to say thanks, just hit the "Thanks" button
OK, let me get this straight.
So Zune is a desktop app written by Microsoft that talks to a phone with an OS written by Microsoft but Zune gets updates from AT&T ?
Why the heck do they do that?
OS updates doesn't have to do with the carrier.
I mean, it's not like if you have a AT&T branded phone you also have a branded WP7.
Why are the updates coming from AT&T anyway?
Why isn't the phone getting updates from Microsoft?
Please enlighten me!
andreiuc said:
OK, let me get this straight.
So Zune is a desktop app written by Microsoft that talks to a phone with an OS written by Microsoft but Zune gets updates from AT&T ?
Why the heck do they do that?
OS updates doesn't have to do with the carrier.
I mean, it's not like if you have a AT&T branded phone you also have a branded WP7.
Why are the updates coming from AT&T anyway?
Why isn't the phone getting updates from Microsoft?
Please enlighten me!
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Partly correct.
Zune is an app that is an intermediary between the cloud and the WP7 phone. Imagine it like a supermarket.
Now, the updates are coming initially from MS but carriers are responsible for their phone's update, service, warranty, quality etc. So they will be the ones actually releasing the update IF the phone is branded by them. This is done to avoid possible issues (any customer service the carrier need to do it even if it's a potential OS problem). Otherwise the general update from MS applies for unbranded phones (ie prepay, free phones etc). The carriers even modify sometimes the update to include specific features. But this also means more QA time...
The carriers know which one is their phone because Zune reports the IMEI and then MS redirects the phone to the carrier corresponding to that phone's IMEI.
So carriers are doing QA job on how a specific phone work with OS?
It's pretty weird that carriers do more then just provide phone services(call, data, etc).
The fact that carriers are modifying the OS update is completely idiotic from my point of view.
They should not mess with OS at all.
I pretty sure that actually they are using some tools provided my Microsoft.
So it's even more idiotic.
I know that carriers have specific apps, but these should be just apps like any other apps.
I don't understand how Microsoft, which is very late anyway at the smart phone party, likes this situation.
andreiuc said:
So carriers are doing QA job on how a specific phone work with OS?
It's pretty weird that carriers do more then just provide phone services(call, data, etc).
The fact that carriers are modifying the OS update is completely idiotic from my point of view.
They should not mess with OS at all.
I pretty sure that actually they are using some tools provided my Microsoft.
So it's even more idiotic.
I know that carriers have specific apps, but these should be just apps like any other apps.
I don't understand how Microsoft, which is very late anyway at the smart phone party, likes this situation.
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The carriers usually alter this not for their customer's benefit but their own MS provides guidelines and help on how to do the alteration and how to QA. Personally, I don't think MS likes it, but allows it. Pretty much the same as other phone manufacturers.
Also, personally I don't like this carrier update fiasco either, and I agree with you. But, carriers are the ones selling the phone so, MS had to cut a deal somewhere to penetrate the market.
I guess the next thing for Microsoft would be to buy or have some kind of strategic partnership with a carrier.
That would be new But it's highly unlikely it will happen.
andreiuc said:
I guess the next thing for Microsoft would be to buy or have some kind of strategic partnership with a carrier.
That would be new But it's highly unlikely it will happen.
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I don't know if that will happen, considering iOS, Android and RIM
If they do it, they would do it in US, but no carrier would accept losing money and customers by signing exclusivity.
However, MS do have strategic partnerships with all major phone manufacturers: Samsung, HTC, LG, Nokia etc. THAT will help
Sometime in the future, as hardware advances, phone calls will be carried only over internet.
So these idiotic issues might stop.
And stupid carriers reign will end!
EnderPsp said:
HKLM\System\Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator
Edit it and instead of "ATT-US" (original value) leave blank
You will get an update. I did and I have Focus v1.3, originally on AT&T.
After that update you can revert back to the original value.
Also, read my post here.
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EnderPsp, why should I put back the original value anyway?
andreiuc said:
EnderPsp, why should I put back the original value anyway?
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So you can get the NoDo update after 7392, also, otherwise you might not get some updates in Zune. If you get the update when unbranded, better!
That's how it worked before Mango. Not sure now, but if you're getting the updates unbranded, don't bother putting it back.
so now that the news is all over the place, is there any way to tell if this spyware is installed on the galaxy s or any of it's roms?
As i read about i noticed the remark about it eating battery and cpu performance so i think it should be studied. I can't imagine nobody cares ...
I think only htc devices do that.
Sent from my Galaxy S using XDA Premium App
I heard this could be on any Android, RIM or Nokia phones.
In case that some members do not know what it's about then please see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo
Think about it this way, all the informations collected will then be sold to the highest bidder to promote products or to find new products based on peoples habits or needs, that is, of course, in the best case scenarios.
It's all about money...again and again! But...it logs and sends all data of your input and that includes passwords and so on and all of that is un-encrypted, so this is getting really getting out of hands and will make a big 'boom' soon.
In the Netherlands the software is illegal and therefore not present on any phone!
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I'm running teamhacksung's ICS build, no CarrierIQ detected. Run TrevE's CarrierIQ test app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
The software most likely will not be in phones outside of the US or carrier-free phones.
Can anyone sum up what's going on for me?
That spyware is only on USA phones.
I am on Vodafone Netherlands. They say it is free of this spyware. But they said the same about the spyware that blogs WA
In the Netherlands it is forbidden by law. But providers and Law thats like fire and water whahaha
Download app and try yourself.
Vodafone uk has confirmed its not on there firmware
Checks have been made using the app on other Networks and there all clear in the UK
And as in other countrys we have a Data protection Act which prevents this
Now one thing is missing is Stock Roms is this on them if so there straight from Manufactures and not Networks there so called stock roms will have it
So if you don't want to root Flashing a Manufactures Stock Rom should clear this
If its on Stock Then the Manufactures want a Bashing
I read an article that said it showed up on android on
settings -> applications -> manage applications -> ALL
as IQRD
Hello all
I ask everyone who has a device from Samsung company not to close the tab and read to the end of this post.
I'll start with the prehistory. My first Android-tablet was Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. I was incredibly happy because it was a unique device. Screen, build quality, metal, processor and capacious battery. I could not get enough of. I bought it for $ 721. it was in June of last year, I must say he has a birthday coming up.
And just a month later I got an update ice cream sandwich. It was the best firmware, and no matter what that summer, Google released a jelly bean.
Time passed, and Samsung is not going to renew our wonderful tablet to the latest version of android. I was waiting for. My patience ran out in March 2013.
March 7 I began to send in the forums with the topic of the samsung galaxy tab 7.7 messages with calls about the attack of the official pages of Samsung in social networks messages such as "We want Jelly Bean for Galaxy Tab 7.7!!!".
We are bombarded official page Samsung USA, Samsung and Thailand. I want to believe that they have heard our cries and dissatisfaction. And 29 days ago, Samsung launched the upgrade to Jelly Bean for Thailand. And that's it. certainly present in the firmware English language, but what about those who live in the countries of the CIS? Those who know neither Thai nor English language. The same China and Japan!
29 days have passed. and no region except Thailand did not get updated until now. I wrote about this in support of Samsung, the country where I live (Ukraine), but I was told that there is no information about the update, and until.
So my dear friends, and just those who are indifferent to our problem, and in general the problem of updating all Samsung devices, I urge you to attack samsunga page on facebook and other social networks. I think it will suit us more than the banner of
"I hate samsung for that instead of an update for my device, it produces a copy of it with a modified design !!!."
official Samsung Support page on Facebook
official Samsung Thailand page
Samsung Mobile Thailand
I will be grateful for the repost of this topic in any topics on xda/social networks
Thanks All
OK. You have taken the trouble to write this and I have taken the trouble to read it.
My own criticism of Samsung lies in the slowness of the update to the latest versions of Android in the first instance. But Samsung are not alone in this regard, that is not an excuse as such but it is a reality of owning an Android device. That is, outside of a Nexus, I hasten to add to ward off those of a pedantic disposition.
Secondly that this tardy update is exacerbated by the long drawn out releases for each territory's firmware. This was an overall nine month process in the case of Ice Cream Sandwich v4.0.4.
Nonetheless, Samsung did come through and now has released the initial firmwares for Jelly Bean 4.1.2 with, presumably, the remaining territories to follow in due course.
To repeat this fact for emphasis, Samsung has released JB for our devices. I should know, I am running the Singapore version on my Netherlands Tab.
Looking at the state of Android fragmentation generally, I have to content myself with gratitude and applaud Samsung for not forgetting about us. However late in the day this might be. In my opinion it is churlish to whinge in the manner of your post. Lack of patience is a personal failing and so is an inflated sense of personal entitlement. Why look to transfer these personal shortcomings as being Samsung's responsibility?
As for your slogan "I hate samsung for that instead of an update for my device, it produces a copy of it with a modified design !!!." Sorry but I don't understand it, it is doesn't make sense to me and certainly I will not hate Samsung. I would respectfully suggest that you reconsider this effort and phrase your concerns in more positive, constructive and helpful sentiments. Attacking, hating and bombarding are not tactics that I would ever employ.
So there is no way that I will be party to such a petition. Other opinions may vary of course.
Still waiting for ANY kind of official JB support for the P6810 model. Although I blame them, don't hate them for it though.
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I can only say this.. ..
Patience is virtue.. ..
I waited 3-4 months for JB after it first came out.... Now after its available for P6800... amazingly I'm still on ICS...
If you so desperately need JB and don't understand Thai or English, have this resource pages translated in Google.
You'll find instructions to upgrade via Mobile ODIN, using the Thai or Singapore versions.
Then, do the same to download and activate the specific language you need.
I am already running JB with the SIngapore version and Portuguese language pack on a device bought in the Netherlands.
It is not cool to point out Samsung tardiness, while not doing all you can do to solve your problem.
I should also point out that, if you want to be a tech enthusiasts as we all are and a "must have the latest" kind of enthusiast, as you seem to be, you really should find a way of learning English, or you'll be continuously frustrated.
Just a thought...
XK
The USA has another reason: Most 7.7 are locked to Verizon. I felt fortunate to receive ICS. Samsung will point to Verizon and say it's up to Verizon and Verizon will say...
XDAKhan said:
If you so desperately need JB and don't understand Thai or English, have this resource pages translated in Google.
You'll find instructions to upgrade via Mobile ODIN, using the Thai or Singapore versions.
Then, do the same to download and activate the specific language you need.
I am already running JB with the SIngapore version and Portuguese language pack on a device bought in the Netherlands.
It is not cool to point out Samsung tardiness, while not doing all you can do to solve your problem.
I should also point out that, if you want to be a tech enthusiasts as we all are and a "must have the latest" kind of enthusiast, as you seem to be, you really should find a way of learning English, or you'll be continuously frustrated.
Just a thought...
XK
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The problem is, people shouldnt have to do all this to get jb for their mobile devices.
It's not just a Samsung problem. Sony too is dragging their feet with the updates. The real issue is android. Instead of a different version for each region, it should be a universal update. And a language pack should be available for download via google play.
I can see why Samsung decided to test out tizen. Although it would be a lot easier to stick with windows....
And samsung should stick to making devices.
vbx said:
The problem is, people shouldnt have to do all this to get jb for their mobile devices.
It's not just a Samsung problem. Sony too is dragging their feet with the updates. The real issue is android. Instead of a different version for each region, it should be a universal update. And a language pack should be available for download via google play.
I can see why Samsung decided to test out tizen. Although it would be a lot easier to stick with windows....
And samsung should stick to making devices.
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Agreed.
Mentioned nearly the same thing in past threads, although I still believe is fully Samsung. Not too difficult for THEM to compile P6810 JB firmware after (Asia) already releasing it for its brother. Maybe they over comitt themselves with too great a range of products, and those products that sell volume have much greater priority?
As you said, language packs are the way to go
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vbx said:
The problem is, people shouldnt have to do all this to get jb for their mobile devices.
It's not just a Samsung problem. Sony too is dragging their feet with the updates. The real issue is android. Instead of a different version for each region, it should be a universal update. And a language pack should be available for download via google play.
I can see why Samsung decided to test out tizen. Although it would be a lot easier to stick with windows....
And samsung should stick to making devices.
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And please tell me, what reason is there on Android's code that forbids a single universal update?
All firmware versions work with all devices (of the same model obviously). You can use a modem for any region. You can enable languages that aren't enabled by default. Android allows all that.
The problem isn't Android. It's the manufacturers' internal organization, the specific contracts with local operators, and the required tests by local regulation agencies that limit official availability.
Mini-rant
OK, so I have to rant (just briefly) about the whole state of Samsung phones at the moment. Basically, we spend gobs of money on expensive devices and get locked down pre-loaded junk in return. Oh, they are physically impressive, have good specs, and are aesthetically nice gadgets. But would you spend $1600 bucks on a new laptop that came with software you couldn’t remove and could only be upgraded for the next 4 years?!?!
I have wanted to experiment with LineageOS for years. I bought a used Samsung S8+ in 2018 and quickly found out that LineageOS was a no go because Samsung locks the bootloaders on all US and Canadian models. So, that was never going to happen unless some guru found a hack.
Now, five years later, I went out of my way to find a Global/European S10+ (an SM-G975F) specifically so that I could install LineageOS. Now, I managed to do that easily enough. But now I am stuck with a phone that has poor reception and slow LTE speeds because it is missing LTE bands used in Canada (i.e. the SM-G975F uses different bands than the SM-G975W).
So here we are… making tradeoffs again.
And while I like fiddling with things like this, I have to wonder... why are we here in the first place? I just want a phone that doesn’t come preloaded with junk that I don’t want. I don’t want Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, TikTok or even Office 365 pre-installed and non-removable. It is like moving into a new house and finding out that the builder picked out furniture for the living room and, while you can push it off to the side and cover it with a blanket, you can never actually remove it. Why is the builder picking out furniture for me in the first place?
Some will say they like the furniture the builder picked. Most will say they don’t hate it or that they found a way to cover it up sufficiently that they don’t really notice it anymore. That isn’t really the point though, is it?
LineageOS on the other hand comes with nothing that it shouldn’t. Oh, and you can have LineageOS if you like (if you stand on your head and find a way to order a phone from another market) but then you have crummy reception forever. Oh, and when you are done you are a 2nd class citizen who can't use the NFC chip on his/her phone to pay for things because you were a "bad person" who found a way to remove the builder's sofa from your living room.
Oh, there are tricks… download this tool or that… but some don’t work anymore because of update XYZ…
Why can’t I just turn on the LTE bands I need??!?! Like, seriously, why not?!?!
Or better yet, why doesn’t my phone do it for me when it sees the Bell SIM card?!?!
Whose phone is this anyway?!?!
The state of Samsung phones in North America is garbage. Full stop. Pure garbage. No, I am not being too harsh.
1) All phones should come with basic firmware that makes the phone work and nothing else. The phone should not be used as an on-ramp into whichever ecosystem is paying the manufacturer more. OEM apps (i.e. Samung Calculator, Samsung DeX, etc.) are fine but no 3rd party junk like Facebook and Instagram. That is what the store is for.
2) All bootloaders should be unlockable and re-lockable once custom firmware is loaded if that firmware is itself signed. No "tripping Knox" or this nonsense.
3) All radio/LTE/carrier settings should be accessible and customizable with easily selectable presets for major carriers worldwide.
Anything else is a closed ecosystem that doesn't respect your basic property rights.
OK, done ranting... Maybe someone from Samsung will notice and maybe it will make a difference.
Best regards,
The Fish
I run two stock N10+'s, a N975U and a N975U1.
Running on Android 9* and 10 respectively. Neither have had their firmware upgraded. I use Package Disabler to block about 70-80 apks and settings are heavily optimized. Both run fast, stable and fullfill their mission with almost no issues and little maintenance. Excellent SOT and standby time.
Both are compatible with AT&T and as such there are no reception issues. You check and verify this before you purchase. Slam the sim card in and they're good to go. Once optimized and running well, don't upgrade firmware or update apps and it will run fine for years. Don't do the above and you will need to find work arounds... if they exist.
Current load on this N10+ will be 3yo this June. No malware during that time. Still looks, feels and runs like new. Only repair has been a battery. After a steep learning curve I'm very pleased with these devices. They are still a joy to use. However I can't say the same for the proceeding Samsung flagships and will never own one of them for a litany of reasons*.
Samsung phones with/in this SOC/generation can run well in capable hands, stock, if used as described.
*has last Android 9 firmware update
**lol, don't get me started
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Neither have had their firmware upgraded. I use Package Disabler to block about 70-80 apks and settings are heavily optimized. Both run fast, stable and fullfill their mission with almost no issues and little maintenance.
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This kind of proves my point. I am not saying there isn't a way to get your Samsung phone running the way you want it. I am saying that the hoops we have to jump through and the tradeoffs we have to make are unacceptable.
Why do you have to use Package Disabler to block about 70-80 apks?!?! Why should you have to block *any* APKs at all?
Why do you have to stick with old, outdated firmware? Why do you have to make this tradeoff? Why do we have to have a hostile relationship with Samsung?
Why can't we have a nice phone, no bloatware, no junk, no apps we don't want. Get updates for a reasonable amount of time (i.e. till the hardware no longer supports it)?
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Both are compatible with AT&T and as such there are no reception issues. You check and verify this before you purchase. Slam the sim card in and they're good to go.
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Sure. And I knew ahead of time when I purchased the Global S10+ (the SM-G975F) that it didn't support all the same LTE bands as the Canadian model (the SM-G975W). But again, I had to make tradeoffs because I wanted to run LineageOS. Again, why do we have to choose between two crummy options?!?! Where are the good options?!?
I am daring to imagine a world where this is better. Really, we used to have phones locked to service providers and 5-year contracts. Those were the bad old days. But these days right now (with the bloatware, etc.) are also not great. It reminds me of the Windows XP era of PCs where you would buy a new PC and be prompted to sign up for 100 different services upon initial bootup. Only difference then was you could re-install the operating system on your PC and free yourself from the OEM bloatware. But now, with phones, they make even that impossible with locked bootloaders.
Basically, if I could unlock the bootloader of a Canadian SM-G975W that would be ideal. Any why isn't it like that anyway?!?! Isn't that the way it should be to begin with?
Locked bootloaders with no option to unlock should be illegal.
The Fish
thefish123 said:
This kind of proves my point. I am not saying there isn't a way to get your Samsung phone running the way you want it. I am saying that the hoops we have to jump through and the tradeoffs we have to make are unacceptable.
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I'm a pragmatist, I use what works.
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Why do you have to use Package Disabler to block about 70-80 apks?!?! Why should you have to block *any* APKs at all?
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It's only blocking what I consider bloatware. 10 or 15 of those apks are apps I installed but chose to kept disabled 99% of the time.
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Why do you have to stick with old, outdated firmware? Why do you have to make this tradeoff? Why do we have to have a hostile relationship with Samsung?
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It's your choice to upgrade and there's no reason to upgrade if the firmware is fulfilling its mission if you're running Android 9 or higher. If you lack wherewithal you pay a price...
thefish123 said:
Why can't we have a nice phone, no bloatware, no junk, no apps we don't want. Get updates for a reasonable amount of time (i.e. till the hardware no longer supports it)?
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Updates and upgrades aren't needed on an optimized device that's running well. New phones with the newest firmware are running like crap in case you didn't notice. Very little speed increase in most routine activities and horrible SOT on most.
thefish123 said:
Sure. And I knew ahead of time when I purchased the Global S10+ (the SM-G975F) that it didn't support all the same LTE bands as the Canadian model (the SM-G975W). But again, I had to make tradeoffs because I wanted to run LineageOS. Again, why do we have to choose between two crummy options?!?! Where are the good options?!?
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Well you knew there be connectivity issues and that should have flagged it. Custom roms have custom problems with a limited user/support base.
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I am daring to imagine a world where this is better. Really, we used to have phones locked to service providers and 5-year contracts. Those were the bad old days. But these days right now (with the bloatware, etc.) are also not great. It reminds me of the Windows XP era of PCs where you would buy a new PC and be prompted to sign up for 100 different services upon initial bootup. Only difference then was you could re-install the operating system on your PC and free yourself from the OEM bloatware. But now, with phones, they make even that impossible with locked bootloaders.
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It's not that bad if you shop smart. I bought out my AT&T N10+ at 2 years. It's almost identical to my carrier unlocked variant. I want the boot loader locked for security. No way I'm touching the firmware as these are premium flagships that run extremely well as is. I have very little to gain and lots to lose... including time.
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Basically, if I could unlock the bootloader of a Canadian SM-G975W that would be ideal. Any why isn't it like that anyway?!?! Isn't that the way it should be to begin with?
Locked bootloaders with no option to unlock should be illegal.
The Fish
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You buy Samsung flagships for the premium hardware and then work within the framework that's available and what works best for you. You can root the Exynos variants but their hardware is almost always inferior to the Snaps. Consequences.
At this point both Samsung and Android newest products are so out of line that they are unusable to me. I don't care what they do, screw them. I'm in a holding pattern for 3+ more years happily using my N10+'s... I don't care. All my issues are worked out because I threw time at them to do so and I'm very satisfied with the outcome.
In 3+ years I will reevaluate the situation and decide what to do. Right now as things stand I don't reccomend any new Samsung's or anything Android version above Android 10. Unfortunately I have no easy solutions for you other than what I did. Even that isn't simple fix but it's a zero risk fix. I refuse to risk damaging these N10+'s by mucking with their firmware unless its needed for repair.
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Well you knew there be connectivity issues and that should have flagged it. Custom roms have custom problems with a limited user/support base.
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The reason I purchased this specific model was so that I could run a custom ROM. But the connectivity issues are not caused by the custom rom. They are caused by the fact that I am using a phone designed for a different market where different LTE bands are used.
And yes, I knew that ahead of time. And I am not regretting that. But you are missing the point. The radio in my phone is perfectly capable of using the LTE bands that my carrier uses. So why shouldn't there be a straightforward way to enable them?
What if I used to live in Europe and moved to Canada? Should I be forced to buy a new phone just because Samsung doesn't let me change LTE bands? Or if I travel between Europe and Canada on business then I just have to suffer with crummy reception?
My point is one of ownership, property rights.
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The reason I purchased this specific model was so that I could run a custom ROM. But the connectivity issues are not caused by the custom rom. They are caused by the fact that I am using a phone designed for a different market where different LTE bands are used.
And yes, I knew that ahead of time. And I am not regretting that. But you are missing the point. The radio in my phone is perfectly capable of using the LTE bands that my carrier uses. So why shouldn't there be a straightforward way to enable them?
What if I used to live in Europe and moved to Canada? Should I be forced to buy a new phone just because Samsung doesn't let me change LTE bands? Or if I travel between Europe and Canada on business then I just have to suffer with crummy reception?
My point is one of ownership, property rights.
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Connectivity is paramount. Regardless of what your user rights should be, you need to work within the limits of the options available. The square peg round hole thing...
You may be able to enable those bands and that's probably where you should be directing your energy. I purposely try to avoid having to do that as much as possible and never had to. You dove down the rabbit hole, hopefully it's not too deep. Try looking at the hidden phone user settings first... I guess.
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Connectivity is paramount. Regardless of what your user rights should be, you need to work within the limits of the options available. The square peg round hole thing...
You may be able to enable those bands and that's probably where you should be directing your energy. I purposely try to avoid having to do that as much as possible and never had to. You dove down the rabbit hole, hopefully it's not too deep. Try looking at the hidden phone user settings first... I guess.
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Yes, I agree. Being a phone is the most important thing that a phone does. And I am directing my energies in that direction as well. But in the process, it occures to me that a messed-up antagonistic anti-customer ecosystem this whole thing is. We would *never* accept this from a computer company, a car manufacturer, or a home builder. Yet, for some reason, we accept it from phone makers like Samsung and that we need to work within these [artificially imposed] limits.
Anyway, yes, there used to be a hidden phone menu (why hidden?) that would have let me enable the bands that I need. But Samsung removed it sometime last year with an update. Again, why?!?!
I'll keep looking. I'm sure I will figure out something in time inspite of Samsung, not because of them.
The Fish
What OS version are you on?
The band selections are probably still there although means of access may have changed.
My knowledge in this area is very limited. The sim card always configured it perfectly for me.
Best to check with your carrier to be sure that phone model is on their white list.
You could try seeing if someone help you from your carrier tech support...sometimes you get lucky if you try enough.
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What OS version are you on?
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I am running LineageOS 19.1.
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The band selections are probably still there although means of access may have changed.
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The band selection app is categorically *not* there anymore because it A) it was part of the Samsung firmware and B) even if I was on Samsung firmware it wouldn't be there anymore either because Samsung removed it.
There used to be a tool you could download that would allow you to access the "hidden" band selection app. But it stopped working because Samsung removed the hidden app altogeather. Like I said in my original post on this thread "Oh, there are tricks… download this tool or that… but some don’t work anymore because of update XYZ…"
My point is that the whole nonsense of disabled bands and locked bootloaders is infuriating. I is like buying a computer that can only access the internet at full speed in Europe and if you fly to Canada and use it there you get penalized with 1/2 speed. Oh, and even through you could change it with the flip of a switch that switch is buried, disabled, hidden behind locked doors.
The Google Pixel 7 Pro has all the bands turned on (i.e. there is one phone for the whole world) and the boot loader is unlocked. Just saying...
At some point I will probably prevail in getting the bands I need turned on. And then I will likely be very happy with this phone for the next 5+ years. But none of that changes the fact that this anti-consumer predatory behavior on the part of Samsung is unacceptable.
The Fish