My friend stopped over with his iphone4. Checked it out. He should my a unreal engine demo of a game coming out for the phone. Jealous for my first time.. amazing graphics. Anyone heard or seen this? Maybe will come to our phone or can put it on our phone.
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The EVO's graphics abilities are pretty weak compared to the iphone 4. The Snapdragon processor can only do about 22 million triangles per second. The A4 can do about 90 million.
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The EVO's graphics abilities are pretty weak compared to the iphone 4. The Snapdragon processor can only do about 22 million triangles per second. The A4 can do about 90 million.
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I think you're a little mixed up. The PowerVR SGX 540 in the Galaxy S phones can produce 90 million triangles per second. The iPhone 4 uses the PowerVR SGX 535, same as the Droid X. Still an impressive GPU (source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review)
Unfortunately, the iPhone has always had a somewhat decent GPU for its time. That's why it gets all the intense 3D apps\games. Android is JUST now seeing decent hardware. Backwards compatibility for graphically intense apps would be TERRIBLE on our platform, mostly due to brand new phones like the EVO still shipping with crappy snapdragons...
Chances of seeing this: slim to none
Dude stop bashing the EVO at every chance you get, its getting old. Some of us didn't buy the EVO to play stunning 3d games or gaming period, I have an xbox for that or I just would have got an Iphone. I do have some games, but just ones I can play quick of im just sitting around in a waiting room or something. Chill out man. I have my reasons I grabbed the EVO over the epic, but im not gonna bash the phone relentlessly. This is getting to petty.
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I think you're a little mixed up. The PowerVR SGX 540 in the Galaxy S phones can produce 90 million triangles per second. The iPhone 4 uses the PowerVR SGX 535, same as the Droid X. Still an impressive GPU (source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review)
Unfortunately, the iPhone has always had a somewhat decent GPU for its time. That's why it gets all the intense 3D apps\games. Android is JUST now seeing decent hardware. Backwards compatibility for graphically intense apps would be TERRIBLE on our platform, mostly due to brand new phones like the EVO still shipping with crappy snapdragons...
Chances of seeing this: slim to none
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Man, and I thought I was doing something with a snapdragon processor :-/
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Dude stop bashing the EVO at every chance you get, its getting old. Some of us didn't buy the EVO to play stunning 3d games or gaming period, I have an xbox for that or I just would have got an Iphone. I do have some games, but just ones I can play quick of im just sitting around in a waiting room or something. Chill out man. I have my reasons I grabbed the EVO over the epic, but im not gonna bash the phone relentlessly. This is getting to petty.
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Please tell me you're joking? I can't click anywhere in the EVO forums without landing on a thread full of people bashing other phones because they worship the EVO like it's the freakin holy grail. Why do you think this thread was created?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777192
That isn't petty? Do you know what petty means?
I didn't start that thread, and yea your going nuts on that one too. I never thought id see so much iPhone syndrome between two Android devices.
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I didn't start that thread, and yea your going nuts on that one too. I never thought id see so much iPhone syndrome between two Android devices.
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Me neither, and it's pissing me off. I love both phones but you don't see threads in the Epic forums bashing the EVO. Some people who bought the Epic actually feel the need to defend it because we want OPTIONS on android, not 15 EVO clones.
I'm not sure if your talking about me or the Guy with the third post. I'm not bash evo and love this phone. Also I'm not really into gaming on a phone just that unreal engine sparked a interest in actually gaming on a phone. But I still don't see myself gaming on a phone anyways even how it looked and played. Was just seeing if it could work on the evo. I'd be more interested if it played and looked that good on a 4.3 screen.
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To the OP:
DFTT
Back on topic:
iPhone games are so much better. That's one of the reasons I'm going to but the new iPod touch. I came from an iPhone but switched because I actually needed to place calls.
I would get the $229 8GB iPid touch that's coming out and you'd be set.
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Dude stop bashing the EVO at every chance you get, its getting old. Some of us didn't buy the EVO to play stunning 3d games or gaming period, I have an xbox for that or I just would have got an Iphone. I do have some games, but just ones I can play quick of im just sitting around in a waiting room or something. Chill out man. I have my reasons I grabbed the EVO over the epic, but im not gonna bash the phone relentlessly. This is getting to petty.
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You are missing the point completely...
The point is not the fact that people bought an evo over an iPhone to 'play games' its just the fact that both PHONES are completely different in these departments. While I agree with you that I also did not buy an Evo to play video games on it, I see the goldmine that is there for developers to create games on the Apple platform. If you see some of the games that are coming out for the iPod/iPhone they look like Xbox graphics. Absolutely ridiculous that a simple phone can do that. While I enjoy only paying $77 after taxes for an Evo 4g, I admire Apple for creating a phone that has an absolutely superior processor. Both phones are great, but the iPhone has much superior hardware - that is why you pay the premium for having it.
OMG you payed $77? I shelled out the whole 450 just to get off the dreaded Samsung Moment. I wasn't going to wait till March to upgrade.
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To the OP:
DFTT
Back on topic:
iPhone games are so much better. That's one of the reasons I'm going to but the new iPod touch. I came from an iPhone but switched because I actually needed to place calls.
I would get the $229 8GB iPid touch that's coming out and you'd be set.
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What's dftt? By the way.. mod can delete this thread.. just asked a question on the engine nothing else. Tired of this this..
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I know the cap's been discussed ... but this drives it home...
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/droid-x-vs-htc-evo-vs-google-nexus-one-in-benchmark-face-off/
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I know the cap's been discussed ... but this drives it home...
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/droid-x-vs-htc-evo-vs-google-nexus-one-in-benchmark-face-off/
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Did you also see that it's been removed in a custom rom?
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I know the cap's been discussed ... but this drives it home...
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/droid-x-vs-htc-evo-vs-google-nexus-one-in-benchmark-face-off/
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Good video for the benchmarks. Devs here add untold value to the Evo though (30fps cap already taken care of).
I am glad the bar keeps being set higher. I need something to convince me to buy a new phone when my contract is up in October and graduate the Evo to my girlfriend. =)
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Good video for the benchmarks. Devs here add untold value to the Evo though (30fps cap already taken care of).
I am glad the bar keeps being set higher. I need something to convince me to buy a new phone when my contract is up in October and graduate the Evo to my girlfriend. =)
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How is it taken care off? Doesn't the fix break the camera?
Wow, I really would like a droid x now. compared to the droid x the evo...well doesn't even compare. FML
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How is it taken care off? Doesn't the fix break the camera?
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Yea but all this has already been done without even have source code for our phone imagine what will be done once that's released
Plus if I where you I would hold off till a tegra2 Android phone is released they'll make the Droid x and the galaxy look like nothing compared to it
Even with the source released, the Droid X will beat out the EVO... The EVO doesn't have a dedicated graphics chip, rather an integrated one.
The Adreno has a lot more power to it than is being used... but don't hold your breath on HTC ever tapping the OpenGL ES 2.0 capabilities of the device and thus increasing performance...
This is sad...makes me want to take my Evo back.
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This is sad...makes me want to take my Evo back.
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What's the point? You'll pay Verizon a hell of a lot more money for less service - lose the ability to have 4G - and Verizon is talking about capping data just like at&t has recently done...
Its not like there are that many games out there that can take advantage of the hardware in the EVO anyway.
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This is sad...makes me want to take my Evo back.
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I felt the same, but then I sat down and thought a bit. Sure, if I want the most ridiculous benchmark munching phone out there I would return my Evo in a heartbeat and crack open a couple piggy banks to go on Verizon to get the Droid x, but honestly, I tried the uncapped Evo out, and holy mother Jesus God it does everything I need to at lightning speed.
One thing I should mention is that I don't play games on my Evo. iPod Touch for that.
Droid X for me is overkill and it costs a huge wad more money. If you wish to always have the best phone out there, it is going to cost an arm, a leg, and then some. I think Evo is good enough for someone who just got off an enV2. Makes my old phone look like a sundial.
Don't forget Verizon's 350 dollar ETF either...
The Droid X is undoubtedly nice, but I couldn't imagine having a phone that isn't seriously backed by the XDA community. And the Evo plays all the games I want to play fine, even with the cap. I'm running the t2 kernel now, the phone flies with the latest DC ROM.
Our phone may not be the best at everything, but it's a damn nice phone on a good network at a great price. You can't enjoy the phone if all you're doing is looking at others.
an uncapped evo can play any game out right now so i dont see the big deal..and cappable of playing nfss(pre loaded on droid x) they did demo the game on evo 1st..until htc capped it so they decided to release it with droid x instead..i mean come on its not like there is a crysis type game graphic wise that will require dedicated graphic cards
I take what I said back. I think the video I downloaded had an issue because I just watched another source of the same clip and holy **** its butter. My interest in this device has just been recharged.
Yeah...I do know that...but the decision making that led to that (Sprint of course)..just gets me. Are they not aware that high end devices like this are purchased by extremely tech savvy folks and are gonna be fully aware they're throttling capacity....
Ah well....let it go...
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Did you also see that it's been removed in a custom rom?
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From what I can tell the only thing over the EVO that the Droid X has is dedicated graphics. On the other hand the EVO has 4G. The most intense games I play on my phone are games like solitaire, haha. 4G is way worth the trade for me. If you're really looking for a gaming phone then maybe the Droid X is the way to go. Is rather have the EVO and then get a 3Ds or a PSP. To each their own.
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From what I can tell the only thing over the EVO that the Droid X has is dedicated graphics. On the other hand the EVO has 4G. The most intense games I play on my phone are games like solitaire, haha. 4G is way worth the trade for me. If you're really looking for a gaming phone then maybe the Droid X is the way to go. Is rather have the EVO and then get a 3Ds or a PSP. To each their own.
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3ds...whooppp!!!!
Maybe it's just me and probably it has to do with the fact that i'm a broke soon to be college kid. I don't get how some of your jump from one device on an entirely different carrier to another, just for the bigger stick effect. Wasn't directed towards anyone. Just saying, The evo just came out and I know we are all with-in our 30 day return limit for just about another week, but the some of you are already dribbling over the droid x, and i'm sure the same will happen when another OMG this phone is better because of this one extra thing comes out a month later.
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Maybe it's just me and probably it has to do with the fact that i'm a broke soon to be college kid. I don't get how some of your jump from one device on an entirely different carrier to another, just for the bigger stick effect. Wasn't directed towards anyone. Just saying, The evo just came out and I know we are all with-in our 30 day return limit for just about another week, but the some of you are already dribbling over the droid x, and i'm sure the same will happen when another OMG this phone is better because of this one extra thing comes out a month later.
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Well in my case I have family plans with both Sprint and At&t so moving my At&t lines which are all out of contract wouldn't cost a nickle more per month on Verizon and can gain the FOTM device that I want. With Sprint I use the other people's upgrades and they get hand me downs (one of the perks of paying the bills) so upgrades are plentiful.
there's not even any games that take advantage of the Droids GPU so why complain? Android still gets crappy games compared to the Iphone.
Everyones being hyping the evo shift and quite frankly im not all that impressed with it if it had a front facing camera and at least 1ghz processor i would have though of getting it. Ive seen verizons lineup and I was pretty blown away especially the motorola bionic dual core processor 2ghz what?!!! Hopefully sprint will get their act together and say ok guys we need to release the evo 2 stat!
I would say evo 2 to be out in summer just like the Evo did
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Maybe it will have some of this near it....
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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We will probably see something at ctia, so it can look like the big draw of the show.
Probably won't be an Evo 2... but rather some other crappy name HTC puts on its phone. I wish they named their phones better. It would be better for them in a marketing point of view, cause all of their phones just seem so random (they create the pool of Android phones with random names and bad GPUs, lol).
Anyway, I love my Evo, just wish it was better in some areas (screen, camera, GPU)... and that's all I'm looking for in an upgrade.
CTIA is usually where Sprint shines.
who ever said we would get an evo2 in the first place?
Htc Sabor = Evo 2 ?
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I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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who ever said we would get an evo2 in the first place?
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Considering its the most successful smartphone in the history of the carrier... logic...
EricSS619 said:
I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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If anyone read any of the stats on the evo shift, they would clearly see it's better in every aspect (as long as you dont mind no Front facing cam, and 5mb rear cam). The 800mhz is wayyyyyyyy better than the 1ghz the evo has, has more updated software all the way around. So they made the screen smaller probably to accomodate for the added thickness of having a physical keyboard. You guys need to realize it's not all about the specs all the time.. HTC knew exactly what they were doing when they put out that phone.
There wont be a evo 2....there is supposed to be the htc sabor coming out that is going to be the upgrade of the evo....google it
^As far as I know the HTC Sabor isn't real. At least no one has said anything substantial about it, and certainly nothing has been confirmed (unless you read Ozcarguide........)
Anyway I'm expecting to hear something at ctia. Not expecting an "Evo 2" per se, but at least a top-notch smartphone for sprint to lead with in 2011
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Anyway I'm expecting to hear something at ctia. Not expecting an "Evo 2" per se, but at least a top-notch smartphone for sprint to lead with in 2011
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Imagine if it was the iPhone 5.
EricSS619 said:
I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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Considering you have held one and use it do you mind elaborating from your personal experience as to why it runs so much better? Thanks.
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Considering its the most successful smartphone in the history of the carrier... logic...
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it WAS... not anymore by any means. i wouldn't count on a evo2 coming. i did how ever hear sprint may be next in line for the iphone, makes sense now that verizon has it.
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Considering you have held one and use it do you mind elaborating from your personal experience as to why it runs so much better? Thanks.
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ive also read several reviews that say it out performs the evo. i still think the epic is faster than both phones with it's hummingbird cpu and better gpu capabilities.
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it WAS... not anymore by any means. i wouldn't count on a evo2 coming. i did how ever hear sprint may be next in line for the iphone, makes sense now that verizon has it.
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No, it still is.
Keep in mind we're talking about Sprint specifically and not all carriers.
The iPhone rumors are just that.
And yes, it's just logic that [due to no CDMA exclusivity] the iPhone will come to Sprint at some point [and all carriers]
But the fact is that Sprint is going to have the next generation of phones come out in summer.
They always do.
It's more important now..more than ever before.
And it would just be the silliest...most retarded business decision in the history of business decisions to NOT follow up the highest selling phone in carrier history with a phone that is updated.
Maybe it won't be HTC, but you bet it will be dual-core and the same basic size etc of the Evo.
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No, it still is.
Keep in mind we're talking about Sprint specifically and not all carriers.
The iPhone rumors are just that.
And yes, it's just logic that [due to no CDMA exclusivity] the iPhone will come to Sprint at some point [and all carriers]
But the fact is that Sprint is going to have the next generation of phones come out in summer.
They always do.
It's more important now..more than ever before.
And it would just be the silliest...most retarded business decision in the history of business decisions to NOT follow up the highest selling phone in carrier history with a phone that is updated.
Maybe it won't be HTC, but you bet it will be dual-core and the same basic size etc of the Evo.
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sprint is slow at updates and new hardware. im still banking on a new webos device being announced feb 9 and possibly an iphone by this summer. we shall see what else they have in addition to a new wp7 device.
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ive also read several reviews that say it out performs the evo. i still think the epic is faster than both phones with it's hummingbird cpu and better gpu capabilities.
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No, the Evo shift is actually slightly better than the Epic.
Although you're correct that the Evo Shift much improved over the Evo.
The Evo Shift IS better than the Evo, spec wise.
It has the updated core [top of the line til the tegra 2 series at CES]
It has a GPU 4x more powerful than the Evo's.
The core in the Evo Shift is 45 nm as opposed to 65nm [thus much better battery life with more power]
And, as I have said in the past, clock speed is irrelevant.
...much like the Pentium 4 3.06 ghz core is NOT faster than the i7 core that run at 2.53 GHz....
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sprint is slow at updates and new hardware. im still banking on a new webos device being announced feb 9 and possibly an iphone by this summer. we shall see what else they have in addition to a new wp7 device.
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Their updates generally come in the Summer... [Pre June 09, Evo June 10 etc]
This is "delayed" versus say Verizon who gets them shortly after CES.
But it's not the big deal that people try to play it off as.
omgeeee nexus s 4g heading for sprint... i'm ****ing hella stoked no more waiting for android updates from these bastard carriers...
I know its the same ****ing phone cept the nfs chip and whatnot but its worth it. Despite how well android is doing against ios only the google handsets should be compared to ios handsets or anything else. Apple doesnt let att or verizon **** with theyre ****e so only a handset with with pure google blood should be put up against anything else. All opinion though
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Yep, its bye bye epic and bye bye Evo , Hello Nexus 4g.
Yeah definitely selling my Epic when it comes out.
Personally, I'd wait for a Cortex-A9 / Next-gen Snapdragon from Sprint. While the Nexus S will get the latest updates quickly, it's still "last-gen" hardware.
CM7 is getting ported right now, and once they get CM support, we're likely to see other CM ports happen pretty quickly, particularly since having a CDMA + WiMAX Nexus S will make for easy ports.
I'll stick with my hardware keyboard, and when Sprint drops a dual-core beast, I'll pick that up. Either that or wait until the next Nexus phone... I'm patient.
That's the wonderful thing about having unlimited updates, I don't have to wait
How? Can I?
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Same... I don't use the keyboard anyway. I'd prefer a smaller profile and a stock android experience
I guess nobody notices that it is still going to have touchwiz,
which means there still may be delays in getting updates ala epic 4g.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/sprint-announcing-nexus-s-4g-evo-3d-and-evo-view-tablet-at-cti/
How funny would tyat be if samsung made the new evo and htc made the new nexsus s since the names arent owned by sammy or htc that would really send us for a loop ha lol
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I am putting my Epic on Ebay the day it comes out.
^lmao wooooow that would be a brain ****. I know the issue about curent gen versus next gen but think about this....
My epic performs pretty close to tegra2... not to say its the same for gaming but in single core apples it holds it own extremely well. even the gpu comes close. I personally love having dungeon defenders, a couple of gameloft titles and an army of emulators but lets face it... they all work extremely well as they are now. Even with all that i barely touch those games. i have a psp and prefer to play emus on there. Like having a xperia play in some ways... either i game on that or game on my 360 or ps3.. so then comes the question specific to my usage... do I REALLY need dual core versus wanting it. I want it.. but I definitely dont need it. i can see the tablets needing dual core in some ways but other than gaming what other apps could POSSIBLY need that much cpu power? I think dual core is unneeded for atleast another year or 2. Anyone remember what dualcore cpus and quadcore cpus were available for pcs? Those quad cores are just NOW being taken advantage of. I dont see any android apps really needing 2 cpu cores to function properly for the next 2 years. Nexus s here I come lol.
Also dont forget the fact that these gpus are barely being tapped into now.. look at the xperia play. Its rocking adreno 205 and some of the games ive seen look better than anything out in the android marker OR gameloft right now. Not atleast until epic games finally decides to release epic ****ing citadel for android will I see the true potential. **** the iphone 4 is rocking the same gpu in the evo and can still pump out epic citadel at 30 to 40 frames a sec. Now imagine whats possible with the powervx540 currently in these phones that can achieve over 90/mil triangles versus the i4 and evos 15 to 20. that says a whole ****load for me.
The Epic + Gingerbread + Pure Google Software - Physical Keyboard = my dream phone.
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I prefer the epoc over the nexus s. Lets face it that devices booty is fugly. Nexus s back has samsung written all over it. If the epic 4g was pure google id laugh at the nexus s. Epic still the best sgs handset imho
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It's not going to be a pure Google phone...
Yea, its gonna have Touchwiz.
So switching to the same phone cept without keyboard and add 2.3? Thats weird and it wont get updated as fast as the normal one. Since its cdma and wimax lol
Not directed to evo or other phones
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LMAO .....So google is going to ruin their "Nexus" name that sucks
Where does it say it'll have TouchWiz? Doesn't it say the D-600 device has it, not the D-720 which is believed to be the Nexus?
Also there isa coming soon page for the Nexus!
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Incorrect. The D600 device will have TouchWiz, the Nexus S 4G is D720.
Considering the flak (well deserved) that Sprint has received over their delayed updates, it makes sense that they are releasing a Nexus device, because Google will handle all of its software and updates.
before my top device comes out, better ones are coming out or at least rumored too...i understand technology but this is too fast for me, jeez at least let me buy one first before coming out with the next better thing...
http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/...orlds-first-1-5-ghz-dual-core-phone-tablet-i/
ps im talking processor speed btw
No thanks. I'll pass on a pantech product.
Is computer hardware or phone tech moving faster
Im not sure what's worse, pantech or kyocera. I think pantech phones would be alright if the UI was better.
Faster doesn't always = better.
Pantech & TFT kinda detracted from the wow factor too.
I oddly like the name "Vega Racer". Why? I'm scared to ask myself.
they look like crappy iphones...IMO..
You need to stop looking at it that way and be happy by how fast the market is going. Would you prefer it if we're still sitting on 500MHz processors like in 2009?
No no not at all, I hear your side too, it just that I would like to get my Evo 3d befirevits outdated by q better processor
iahk said:
You need to stop looking at it that way and be happy by how fast the market is going. Would you prefer it if we're still sitting on 500MHz processors like in 2009?
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The evo 3d uses the same chipset.
I said this a couple of weeks ago. By the time the 3D comes out there will be 3 or 4 more phones with better specs set to drop a couple weeks/months later. Look at the Samsung phone that just leaked on Tmobile.. the Hercules.
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I said this a couple of weeks ago. By the time the 3D comes out there will be 3 or 4 more phones with better specs set to drop a couple weeks/months later. Look at the Samsung phone that just leaked on Tmobile.. the Hercules.
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The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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No thanks. I'll pass on a pantech product.
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QFT*************.
vbetts said:
The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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Im guessing you missed the point.
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Im guessing you missed the point.
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Your point was by the time the 3d is out, there will be faster devices out. You then referenced the Hercules, which will most likely have near same performance of the 3d, but probably borked support from Samsung.
Interesting...but pantech? No thanks.
This epic reply brought to you by none other than my roxx'd out Evo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, might be same family but isn't the 3d at 1.2 dual core?
And I totally get your point, I feel outdated just three months later. Same reason I'm holding off on a tablet...ipad is a perfect example, couple months after spending 600 or so my friend feels like an idiot just a few months later he's considering another 600 just cuz of the stupid camera...
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The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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Get over it. Buy a phone you like, enjoy it, and get past the need for having the latest and greatest. Phone envy is a *****. Either that, or man up every 6 months and fork out the dough for the newest on the market. Technology will always be 2 steps ahead of you, that's just the way it is.
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Get over it. Buy a phone you like, enjoy it, and get past the need for having the latest and greatest. Phone envy is a *****. Either that, or man up every 6 months and fork out the dough for the newest on the market. Technology will always be 2 steps ahead of you, that's just the way it is.
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Truth.
Not sure this is exactly a new thing, across the board as a whole. Always something better around the corner. And what's there to be bothered about something being better than something you don't even own yet ... ? Whether or not it is 'entirely' better or 'marginally' better.
And talk about not wanting to buy a Samsung device ... but a Pantech?
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lakhanim87 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, might be same family but isn't the 3d at 1.2 dual core?
And I totally get your point, I feel outdated just three months later. Same reason I'm holding off on a tablet...ipad is a perfect example, couple months after spending 600 or so my friend feels like an idiot just a few months later he's considering another 600 just cuz of the stupid camera...
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Yup the evo 3d is undervolted to 1.2 ghz for minimum battery drain but will be overclocked soon enough, just look at the g2 overclock threads to see the potential qualcomm chips have.
After a year with my evo, I believe I can easily wait until next year to upgrade since every phone coming out has specs bumps and nothing else . Just because a better spec laptop comes out doesn't mean to run out and get it.
It will be hard but I'm sure ill hold off on the evo 3d and get the next gen evo next july.
What's the point of this thread? The EVO3D has a better screen, higher resolution, and although the clock speed is 1.2 gigahertz, it will easily be able to overclock significantly higher.
The G2, as someone else mentioned, has been overclocked up to 2 gigahertz. A G2, which has an older chipset and has a stock speed of merely 800 MHz.
I just thought I'd post the Wirefly Review of the phone since it actually shows it hands-on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=feedu
Wirefly reviews are biased. They sell the product. They won't bash anything they're selling.
hah 'this guy'
good looking out on the link
akarol said:
Wirefly reviews are biased. They sell the product. They won't bash anything they're selling.
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+1 definitely biased
Biased or not, I was more interested in the phone itself. I liked the display and you could see some 3D effect when he hovered over the fake card. The camera on the back looks like an old cassette tape though.
akarol said:
Wirefly reviews are biased. They sell the product. They won't bash anything they're selling.
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What reviews aren't biased?
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"and if you want a thrill, you can go WHEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
I hate to be the negative guy but im really not that impressed. I don't feel like I should leave my evo for it; my upgrade is in September and im hoping they have something better. It just doesn't "wow" me like it does for everyone else.
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What reviews aren't biased?
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I ask myself that often. There are few who do leave their personal preferences out.
dirkyd3rk said:
I hate to be the negative guy but im really not that impressed. I don't feel like I should leave my evo for it; my upgrade is in September and im hoping they have something better. It just doesn't "wow" me like it does for everyone else.
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Is it lacking somewhere for you, what would've been the extra or different push to pry the old EVO from you?
I have to admit, I've gotten a bit comfortable now with the MikG 2.1 3.0 update but its making this EVO easier to sell for me towards getting it.
I'm in the same boat as you. I feel the whole 3D thing is a phase that won't last. 3D got big in the 50s then faded out now its back. It will fade again. I also don't like all the new hardware buttons.
I would honestly like to see an EVO 2. Same basic design (except the poke out camera) yet with better hardware. I really love everything about this phone. I used to sell phones so I've had them all and haven't ever been happy. This phone really struck every chord with me. I got mine on release date and swapped for a 004 and its the longest I've ever had the same style phone. I plan to hold on to it untill something comes out that really fits the bill.
I will play with an EVO 3D though
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I do want the Evo 3D but the SGSII is calling me. I know everyone hates sammy but im loving that phone.
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knowledge561 said:
I do want the Evo 3D but the SGSII is calling me. I know everyone hates sammy but im loving that phone.
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I don't hate Samsung phones. I just wish they spent more time with them updates and stuff. As far as reliability its like any other phone. Luck of the draw.
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I want to see if they launch any dual cores greater than 1.2 ghz before the the end of the year. Realistically 1ghz is perfect for what I use my phone for but might as well go all out lol. Ill just use my evo until I figure it out but im not getting evo 3D.
I will be getting this phone.
1. It's HTC
2. It has a great design and I actually like that its a bit taller and slim.
3. It's what I want in an upgrade
4. Construction looks sturdy and well built.
5. It's an HTC.
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There are a few selling points to this phone that help lift it, theoretically, over the Evo. My largest concern is the same concern that plagued the Evo, however:
Battery life.
I understand that you can activate 3D at whim, but I'm more interested in the effect Sense 3 has on battery, and how much those dual 1.2s will actually help. Ultimately, I'd need to see reviews before I even give this a look. Until then, SGS II is more on my radar than anything else.
Something else that comes to mind is it's lack of access to the PlayStation Store (or w/e it's called.) I know it's obvious that HTC doesn't have access to itbut I'm a gamer at heart and once they put out a HDMI-mirroring device with PS1 titles I'll probably blow a load, and all of the money in my wallet. (emulators don't count... unless they run on HDMI at decent speeds.)
dirkyd3rk said:
I hate to be the negative guy but im really not that impressed. I don't feel like I should leave my evo for it; my upgrade is in September and im hoping they have something better. It just doesn't "wow" me like it does for everyone else.
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I feel pretty much the same way.
Rvinfinite said:
There are a few selling points to this phone that help lift it, theoretically, over the Evo. My largest concern is the same concern that plagued the Evo, however:
Battery life.
I understand that you can activate 3D at whim, but I'm more interested in the effect Sense 3 has on battery, and how much those dual 1.2s will actually help. Ultimately, I'd need to see reviews before I even give this a look. Until then, SGS II is more on my radar than anything else.
Something else that comes to mind is it's lack of access to the PlayStation Store (or w/e it's called.) I know it's obvious that HTC doesn't have access to itbut I'm a gamer at heart and once they put out a HDMI-mirroring device with PS1 titles I'll probably blow a load, and all of the money in my wallet. (emulators don't count... unless they run on HDMI at decent speeds.)
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After using a Sense 3.0 rom im not so sure that the battery life is going to improve as compared to being a little bit better for what youre getting. Every Sense 3.0 rom ive run has killed the battery amazingly fast. I think they had to make the battery bigger because if they didnt, with as much of a memory hog as the rom would be the battery probably wouldve been even worse than the Evo.
I was all about this phone for the longest time until I started seeing some of the reviews for it. Its just another evo, with some extra bells and whistles. I love my evo, of course, but to shell out money for another one a year before my upgrade, I don't see it happening. Plus I can live without a 3D screen. I guess we'll see in a few weeks.
Would the dual-core processor help battery life or hurt it? I can see it one of two ways, the processor doesnt have to work as hard, OR the battery has to power A DUAL-CORE PROCESSOR.
Meh,not that impressed.I think i'll pass.
SGS2 here i come!