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I went to take a picture today with my 8125 and it said i only had 22 remaining.... i swear a few days ago it was well over 50. Im assuming the pictures get saved to the "storage" memory by default so i checked my memory and it says i only have 6.5 mb left. I have no clue how this is possible since i dont even have a lot of programs installed. here is what i have installed 3rd party:
tonaya weather to go
magic button
agile messenger
TCPMP with two plugins
TomTom w/ one voice
Not sure what this one is but : FdcSoft PPCContacts manager. (let mek now if i can delete this one)
along with that i have 13 full res pictures and the stock ones it came with. Im running aku2.3 if that has any affect...
like i said i just dont understand how i am using almost 40mb out of 47. and im not quite sure what program memory consists of but that is almost have full at around 22mb of 44mb. Thanks for the help
use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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even if I do that it seems like it would only free up a few mb`s if that....it seems like something else is hogging my space.
DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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I can't say I understand...could you please explain a little more please. do all of the new programs I install go to storage memory or program? I'm just confsed on what to clear out
well i posted this topic earlier today and i said that i had around 6mb of free storage space. I just went to install opera and it said my storage space was down to 2mb! I havnt installed anything or taken any pictures since i started this topic and i lost 4mb of storage already. How is this happening?? I did 2 soft resets and my storage memory never went up. Im really confused as to how this thing is eating my storage memory without me doing anything. I had to delete agile messenger just to gain some space! Please help with this
Storage mem is where you install apps and where apps by default save their files (pictures, video's, temp files, IE cache, Word documents etc). When you use your cam to take pictures, they come in the mydocuments folder on your storage mem. To change this, you have to go into the options of all apps you use and change the default storage location for the files to SD card. For instance: in the camera app, go to the settings, options, general and change the location to storage card.
With file explorer you can search your device for these files, perhaps your pics are taking up so much space? You can also use the built-in search function in start-programs and search for files larger than 64 kb, that should show you the culprits.
Program Mem under WM5 is only used to run apps, not to store them. It wll gradually fill up since not all apps are properly closed, even with task managers. Soft-resetting will empty your program mem from these apps and free up your RAM.
Storage mem is ROM mem and will not be emptied by a soft reset. There must be a lot of files in your storage mem that take up the place, so find out which apps do that. perhaps you have been surfing and there are large temp files from IE on your device?
Thanks for the advice, that is pretty much the answer i needed. One more question though, where should i regularly look to delete files? I will change my picture save location to my stroage card but what are some places i should always be clearing out? Thanks
Edit: I think i may have found the main culprit....one i forgot i transfered a 6mb song for a ring tone and second i went to windows=profiles=guest=temp internet files and cleared all that out and now im up to 22mb of free storgage! Is there any way i can not have it save the temp files or something? Also, in the windows folder it has all of my sounds/ring tones and those same files are also in the Rings folder. It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder and i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder and have it not work. What should i do?
You can run the search function in start-programs regularly if your storage mem goes down to fast for your liking to see large files that hog your storage mem (like files and frames in your temp folder that you downloaded or some app dumped there).
To clear out the IE cache, start IE, tap menu-options-memory and click the buttons delete history and delete files.
I have no idea which other locations to check, I only applied the camera option and clear out the IE cache once in a while (f I remember to). I have lots of apps installed in storage mem and still approx 15 MB free, so freeing up space has never been an issue for me.
good luck with it!
PS judging on your installed apps, I have no idea what can hog your storage so extremely. Perhaps the weather app is saving all downloaded data somewhere on main? I presume that your TT maps are on storage card (they are too big for intenal strage anyway)
PPS AFAIK PPCContact Manager helps you to select all your contacts in one go, for batch sending them trough BT to e.g. a BT carkit or other operations you want to carry out involving all contacts instead of one by one. tap and hold on a contact and you should see "Select all contacts" in the pop-up menu.
youve been a huge help koksie, i appreciate it. Any idea why my soungs are stored in the windows folder and under windows/rings? It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder but it will out of the rings folder. The only reason i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder is i feel if i do then i wont be able to select the deleted ones as ring tones even though they are still in my windows folder. Maybe i should just leave this as is...
Have a search for a free utility called Where Is My RAM? WIMR. As I can best recall this will run on WM5 too and will list your files in order of size. A real boon!
There's a program called Registry Wizard made by one of the geniuses here that will set your IE temp/cache files to be saved to the storage card. I use it and love it! It also has a lot of other tweaks for performance, annoyances, etc....
Do a search for it.
Hell....it's still on the first page when I do a search for "8125"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=8125
I store all my songs on the storage mini SD card. Only my ringtones and mp3 I want to set as ringtone are in the windows/rings dir. All the songs I only use for listening are on my SD card. Use total Commander (freeware) to delete all the stuff you don't need in the windows dir. This app has more possibilities than the standard file explorer. Just save your songs you need for ringtones on your main mem (windows/rings) and move all other songs to your SD card. Sorry, kinda wasted right now, just got home at 4.30 AM after "some" drinking, so I might not make much sense, but I might be more clear later on after some sleep...
My Wizard has been driving me crazy lately. Every couple of minutes I'm getting the "Storage is critically low" notification. It's telling me that I only have 0.48mb of 47.46mb!!!
Thing is that since I got my 2gig miniSD, I barely have anything in my main memory. Not many programs and any program that uses or creates extra files (eReader, media files, camera, etc) are set to use from / store on my sd card. I've:
- deleted all emails with attachments
- made sure all of my pics and IE files are on my storage card
Searching File Explorer shows me nothing that would give me an indication of what is taking up all of that space.
I lothe the idea of re-doing the pocket pc, but I don't really know what else to do! Any ideas?
Jaidnoire said:
My Wizard has been driving me crazy lately. Every couple of minutes I'm getting the "Storage is critically low" notification. It's telling me that I only have 0.48mb of 47.46mb!!!
Thing is that since I got my 2gig miniSD, I barely have anything in my main memory. Not many programs and any program that uses or creates extra files (eReader, media files, camera, etc) are set to use from / store on my sd card. I've:
- deleted all emails with attachments
- made sure all of my pics and IE files are on my storage card
Searching File Explorer shows me nothing that would give me an indication of what is taking up all of that space.
I lothe the idea of re-doing the pocket pc, but I don't really know what else to do! Any ideas?
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IE temp files? Ringtones? Which ROM are you using?
--M
I'm totally unfancy....I'm using the rom update that TMO made available - haven't really gotten into any of the great looking cooked roms on this site. I've done some reg hacks and have my ringtones and IE temp files on my SD card.
I just went thru and even deleted some unused system media files (sample sounds, a movie and templates)
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I'm totally unfancy....I'm using the rom update that TMO made available - haven't really gotten into any of the great looking cooked roms on this site. I've done some reg hacks and have my ringtones and IE temp files on my SD card.
I just went thru and even deleted some unused system media files (sample sounds, a movie and templates)
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Truely weird then. Call TMo and ask them, maybe they'll give you a new phone
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I have stock ROM on my T-Mobile HD2.
Many softwares crash/hang-up with "out-of-memory" error, eg. Xn-View, Need for Speed, Kinoma Play.
This is strange..my HD used to run these without any problems. And HD2 is supposed to have more RAM and faster processor.
Really frustrated. Please help
Do you have many apps installed to your device?
When installing you get the option of device or storage card, maybe uninstall and reinstall to storage card?
Also, be sure to check out CleanRAM, that may help?
Funny to hear similar probs: I moved opera-cache, album-cache, photos to SD-Card, have 170 MB free of prog-mem and 50 MB free of data-mem and still get once in a while "not enough memory, cannot allocate mapBuf" with my aviation-navi-software (which works without this problem on my Touch HD for 2 years). With SK Tools background free RAM and the other services it happens less frequently but it still happens.
Looks as if WM 6.5 does not know where to put app-data into RAM
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Are you using Opera Mobile 10?
With heave loaded opera mobile 10, i can't start camera at once.. but the RAM still showing over 100mb of spaces :O shame...
opera mobile is the problem for me, though i installed it to sd card today and it hasnt happened so far
I got the same Out of Memory for My Camera in my smaberg's Touch X cooked rom..
I have SEVEN push email running in the background.. it runs fine in stock..
I think it's because of the 2.10 driver things?
wondering if anyone have a solution for this?
Any solution yet?
Still have no good solution..
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
i have the same problem but guys, ram isnt rom. memory here means RAM and has nothing to do with phone storage nor sd storage
Memory usage
I do also have problems with "out of memory" errors.
I have tried to do an analyze of my HD2 with MemMaid to figure out where all the memory is used up in my device.
First of all, I have moved all cashes to the memory card and cleaned up the cashes in the phone memory, as been described well in other threads.
I have about 35 applications installed and most of them on the memory card.
This is what I have found out:
Device memory:
337Mb available , 151Mb used , 185MB free (45% used)
Device storage:
180Mb available , 164Mb used , 16Mb free (91% used)
Storage card:
16Gb available , 8Gb used , 8Gb free (50% used)
Looking at directories to see where most files are stored, windows is by far the biggest folder in my device.
The windows directory is 442Mb (!)
where 10470 files makes a total of 420Mb and other folders like programs are 22Mb.
- This is where I suspect I do have a problem, is it really normal that windows folder do have so many files? For example, there are 3017 _manila files, there are also over 3000 bmp,gif,png files.
- I have a thought that I might have inherrited a lot of files from my old TyTnII when I started up the new HD2 and synchronized it via "Microsoft My Phone".
How does it look for other HD2 users with the memory usage?
Regards
Did you save your picture on device memory? How many song did u put on device memory (ringtone for example)?
All those are stored on the memory card.
Opra cash, Youtube, ring tones, music, photos, are all on the memory card.
Regards
I have started to get this 'out of memory message' after in installed opera 10 mobile.
I dont know how to move the cache to the memory card like you could in opera 9.
I already often have a "out of memory" while trying to turn on my camera.
And... I have found a way to turn it back on without restarting : use HTAddicts CleanRAM !
Launch it, it will clean your ram (different profiles are available) and then the camera will start up.
Direct download HERE
I'm pretty sure this message is caused by one of three things:
1. Windows Mobile (even 6.5) still has a 32 process limit
2. Some older programs possibly including the camera software may not be aware of more than 32 or 64gb of memory, so even though there is tons left it can't use it.
3. There is also a cache of memory used by drivers.
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It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
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My thanks Sam, I had this memory problem for a while again thanks for the fix
mem error
Sam2k said:
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
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my hd2 has what may be a similar issue with memory, after official 3.14 install and doing registry tweaks involving memory and graphics settings, mine is "out of memory" on Opera 9.7 all the time here within the past 2 weeks. I've gone into opera settings and deleted cache and history, no results. I can get memory warning with only 1 tab open. Any cabs I've added are on the memory card not the phone memory. I tried to follow this path to delete files, mine doesn't show the "download" file. Am trying to move Opera over to the card. I don't have any of the original games or movies on card or phone. Didn't want or need them. Other tips, suggestions?
Maybe to much programms are (in background) open?
Please close with taskmanager and try again.
btw. witch Stock rom, radio version and spl version do you have?
I've had my HD2 for about a week now. I've installed maybe 3 or 4 apps directly to the device (not to SD Card). I'm now in the situation of not being able to d/l any videos etc. due to having insufficient memory! I can't believe it!!!
Device total storage stands at 200.40MB
Used storage= 189.02MB
Free storage= 11.38MB
However below this info my phone is showing ''Free program storage'' as being 178.38MB. While my SD card is showing Free Memory being at 1453.95MB.
Would the solution be to transfer everything to SD card and only install to the SD card in future?
Yep I would, saves the phones internal memory
I install any non-system apps to the card, anything that needs access to the system files goes on my phone
Found this article on a blog:
Just go on google and search "windows mobile marketplace:choose where to install"
Click the 3rd one down-DarkBlog
(Apologies for not placing a direct link, I'm a new member, so It won't allow me to put outside links right now, sorry for the inconvenience)
It might help you a little?
Gonna have a look at that, looks good
LINK:
http://blog.idlezone.org/post/2010/01/11/Windows-Mobile-MarketPlace-:-choose-where-to-install
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Found this article on a blog:
Just go on google and search "windows mobile marketplace:choose where to install"
Click the 3rd one down-DarkBlog
(Apologies for not placing a direct link, I'm a new member, so It won't allow me to put outside links right now, sorry for the inconvenience)
It might help you a little?
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Thank you. That's really helpful.
These reports of low memory are really starting to bug me.
It would appear that there is something going on that is not fully understand because there is no way that you should run out of phone storage memory with only 4 apps installed!
A serious in depth investigation is needed to unearth the cause.
I have 27 apps installed and I have 152Mb of storage memory left.
Could you tell us what ROM you are running?
Did you go to the task manager and see what is running and try ending the tasks? If you don't kill programs in there they will eat up your system memory... Specially if you are downloading a bunch of porn... Opera is probably using up a bunch.
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Did you go to the task manager and see what is running and try ending the tasks? If you don't kill programs in there they will eat up your system memory... Specially if you are downloading a bunch of porn... Opera is probably using up a bunch.
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Thats not the memory the OP was talking about. Unless I've got it all wrong! Or you have!
I think you are referring to Program memory. The OP was talking about Storage memory and how something was using it up.
This is all very strange.
Things you should definitely look at
1. Where are your camera pictures and camcorder videos stored? ---> if you select device and not storage on the camera app or camcorder app settings, then u are my friend putting pictures and videos you've taken to the sdcard...
solutions: go to ur camera app settings and look at where u are storing the pictures...
or go to ur file explorer, go to ur device's memory and check if they are there...
if they are there, then copy and paste them to ur sd card...
2. set ur outlook, yahoo e-mail and stuff to be stored in sd card, not device's memory...
3. idk what else you have in there to have that very little memory left...
Oh I missed that... My phone has 686.12 Total Storage, 190.64 used, 495.48 free. I have installed all of the apps on the Storage card though. If his says that the total storage is 200 or whatever, that sounds like the problem... Should be like a gb of total device memory between storage and programs...
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phones 'device memory', but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 for tips on freeing some space. The HTC Album cache is my biggest storage hog. Even then, like you, I have just a few programs installed to my internal store and hardly any memory left. The UK version has less storage than the USA HD2 which makes matters worse.
maybe for the euro hd2, cleartemp could help. It can help find those caches and delete them regularly.
I have the tmous version and flash all the time so I don't have that problem.
Also look for the youtube cache. I've heard it can get pretty big if you look at a lot of youtube vids.
edit: go find cleartemp. There are loads of stuff it can clear for you.
I found 10mb under thumbs.db alone.
Not to mention a few mb for google maps and for opera cache each.
you can also add custom folders to be cleaned as well. I haven't looked too much into it, but maybe I should.
Just remember that caches help your phone run faster, so don't erase them unless you need the memory.
This thread has good suggestions. But most are usual recommendations that will help but perhaps not resolve the issue completely (well a couple of posts do mention temp issues). I had a similar experience recently.
A couple of facts:
1. I install all my apps into the main memory. Never had issues. Opera, IE cache, temps all there by default.
2. I download and save on SD. Music, films, pictures, documents, Android are all there.
3. Still I have plenty of room for storage.
And then I suddenly had that warning!
The cause was temp made by the default ZIP utility that used up almost all my storage space. That utility works fine until I wanted to uncompress 160 mb zip from SD into another SD folder. It started uncompressing, used all storage temp space, gave me error, and closed. It didn't clean the temp though!
I cleaned a bit manually and then installed SK tools that cleaned my device properly and everything is fine now. It is very simple issue and similar to running out of disk space on a PC.
Bottom line: it is unlikely that usual apps use so much storage. I bet on downloads and big user files left in storage and finally huge temp files as leftovers of unsuccessful uncompressing for example.
Hello everyone,
Have anyone heard about some sort of filesystem extension to the Storage Card? I once read somewhere, that it could fool WiMo, extending the windows folder (maybe other folders too) into the storage card. I tried to google it, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone knows what this is? Or any other technique to extend the internal storage other than the well known tips and installing/moving the apps to storage card?
Thanks much,
Fernando
Work through Sticky threads 1 and 2 (Tipps and Tricks, Boost performance) here and You´ll find everything ...................
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Work through Sticky threads 1 and 2 (Tipps and Tricks, Boost performance) here and You´ll find everything ...................
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Hello Angelo, thanks for the quick reply!
Before someone yells at me that every noob should read the stickies and search before posting, let me explain that I'm actually looking for some light on this "filesystem extension" or something similar... I guess I should have written (already edited) and named the thread more carefully, since I'm not really running out of space, just looking for options on extending the internal storage...
As for the stickies, I already have them applied - tip 67 (Save Some Space in Phone Storage Memory), 97 (Save Camera Photos Direct to Storage Card) or latter on the thread (moving the bluetooth inbox, ringtones and opera cache to the SD card), I'm aware of them and already have them applied, but yet if we keep installing every nice piece of software we find interesting, eventually we are going to run out of internal storage, even with several GBs free on storage card, but I know that installing a bunch of stuff it's not the expected or usual behavior.
Thanks again for the prompt and polite reply.
You won't run out of internal storage, delete My Device/Application Data/HTC/HTC ALBUM contents and the files inside 'Cache' as well, you can hold up to 20 meg or more in there.
Another idea is to delete My Device/Windows/Rings and just use your custom ring tone, message tones, if you use a decent file manager i.e. Resco you can uncover the hidden tones and delete them also, saving you around 8 meg or so.
My Device/My Wallpapers will save you another ~4 or so.
After flashing an updated Energy ROM I usually have exactly 38 meg of used storage, and after a few days of cache it usually settles to around 50-55 meg, I clear the HTC Album cache from time to time and it always keeps it well under 60 mbs.
I prefer to keep things on the internal storage (I mean system files, caching etc.) as it just seems faster than keeping it on the SD card, and it will also save you a wee bit of battery life as it won't need to keep accessing the card.
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Hello Angelo, thanks for the quick reply!
Before someone yells at me that every noob should read the stickies and search before posting, let me explain that I'm actually looking for some light on this "filesystem extension" or something similar... I guess I should have written (already edited) and named the thread more carefully, since I'm not really running out of space, just looking for options on extending the internal storage...
As for the stickies, I already have them applied - tip 67 (Save Some Space in Phone Storage Memory), 97 (Save Camera Photos Direct to Storage Card) or latter on the thread (moving the bluetooth inbox, ringtones and opera cache to the SD card), I'm aware of them and already have them applied, but yet if we keep installing every nice piece of software we find interesting, eventually we are going to run out of internal storage, even with several GBs free on storage card, but I know that installing a bunch of stuff it's not the expected or usual behavior.
Thanks again for the prompt and polite reply.
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Well then, since You already tweaked all possible items unfortunately this will be the maximum You can get.
Since Nov. 2009 - when I received my HD2 - I carefully read every post concerning int. memory and now with approx. 50 apps installed (all to storage card) I can keep the internal mem filled at 70% (approx. 54MB free mem).
Never forget: emails, sms, mms, contacts etc. are stored internally: the more You keep, the more mem is eaten up.
Since I use only one ringtone and only two avatars (1 x male, 1 x female) for contacts, no animated wallpapers and one selfmade background I deleted all other ringtones, wallpapers and anims.
If Copilot is installed on Your device move it to sd card also (PocketMechanic worked best for me to do this), makes up for another 10 MB of free space.
Enjoy
Thank you both for the reply!
Well, right now I have about 63 megs of free space in the internal storage, but there are still some apps I haven't installed after I flashed this new ROM.
A month ago I was trying almost every app - freewares and sharewares - to sort out what I really need to buy and which free apps work for me, but before I could test half of the apps and games I downloaded, I ran out of space. It wasn't really a problem since I was planning to hard reset my HD2 and then keep only the nice ones, but I decided to search for a possible solution and then read somewhere about this "filesystem extension"... But seems that I misplaced the bookmark and never found anything else on this... I guess it was some kind of scam...
Once again, thank you for taking the time to read and reply!
A file system extension to move the operating systems to SD card would not be a good idea, the performance would be very slow as access speeds are not good.
As for the htc album cache eating alot of memory there is the possibility to use some of the phones RAM (as the HD2 has way more than you need) as a virtual storage card or RAMDISK. You can move the HTC album cache, opera cache and manilla/windows temp files here.
This has the advantage of removing all these junk files everytime you reboot your phone and also making opera and the album run faster as writing cache files to RAM is much faster than writing to ROM