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Where is all of my storage going?!?!?

I went to take a picture today with my 8125 and it said i only had 22 remaining.... i swear a few days ago it was well over 50. Im assuming the pictures get saved to the "storage" memory by default so i checked my memory and it says i only have 6.5 mb left. I have no clue how this is possible since i dont even have a lot of programs installed. here is what i have installed 3rd party:
tonaya weather to go
magic button
agile messenger
TCPMP with two plugins
TomTom w/ one voice
Not sure what this one is but : FdcSoft PPCContacts manager. (let mek now if i can delete this one)
along with that i have 13 full res pictures and the stock ones it came with. Im running aku2.3 if that has any affect...
like i said i just dont understand how i am using almost 40mb out of 47. and im not quite sure what program memory consists of but that is almost have full at around 22mb of 44mb. Thanks for the help

use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics

dropknowledge said:
use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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even if I do that it seems like it would only free up a few mb`s if that....it seems like something else is hogging my space.

DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.

eViL D: said:
DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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I can't say I understand...could you please explain a little more please. do all of the new programs I install go to storage memory or program? I'm just confsed on what to clear out

well i posted this topic earlier today and i said that i had around 6mb of free storage space. I just went to install opera and it said my storage space was down to 2mb! I havnt installed anything or taken any pictures since i started this topic and i lost 4mb of storage already. How is this happening?? I did 2 soft resets and my storage memory never went up. Im really confused as to how this thing is eating my storage memory without me doing anything. I had to delete agile messenger just to gain some space! Please help with this

Storage mem is where you install apps and where apps by default save their files (pictures, video's, temp files, IE cache, Word documents etc). When you use your cam to take pictures, they come in the mydocuments folder on your storage mem. To change this, you have to go into the options of all apps you use and change the default storage location for the files to SD card. For instance: in the camera app, go to the settings, options, general and change the location to storage card.
With file explorer you can search your device for these files, perhaps your pics are taking up so much space? You can also use the built-in search function in start-programs and search for files larger than 64 kb, that should show you the culprits.
Program Mem under WM5 is only used to run apps, not to store them. It wll gradually fill up since not all apps are properly closed, even with task managers. Soft-resetting will empty your program mem from these apps and free up your RAM.
Storage mem is ROM mem and will not be emptied by a soft reset. There must be a lot of files in your storage mem that take up the place, so find out which apps do that. perhaps you have been surfing and there are large temp files from IE on your device?

Thanks for the advice, that is pretty much the answer i needed. One more question though, where should i regularly look to delete files? I will change my picture save location to my stroage card but what are some places i should always be clearing out? Thanks
Edit: I think i may have found the main culprit....one i forgot i transfered a 6mb song for a ring tone and second i went to windows=profiles=guest=temp internet files and cleared all that out and now im up to 22mb of free storgage! Is there any way i can not have it save the temp files or something? Also, in the windows folder it has all of my sounds/ring tones and those same files are also in the Rings folder. It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder and i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder and have it not work. What should i do?

You can run the search function in start-programs regularly if your storage mem goes down to fast for your liking to see large files that hog your storage mem (like files and frames in your temp folder that you downloaded or some app dumped there).
To clear out the IE cache, start IE, tap menu-options-memory and click the buttons delete history and delete files.
I have no idea which other locations to check, I only applied the camera option and clear out the IE cache once in a while (f I remember to). I have lots of apps installed in storage mem and still approx 15 MB free, so freeing up space has never been an issue for me.
good luck with it!
PS judging on your installed apps, I have no idea what can hog your storage so extremely. Perhaps the weather app is saving all downloaded data somewhere on main? I presume that your TT maps are on storage card (they are too big for intenal strage anyway)
PPS AFAIK PPCContact Manager helps you to select all your contacts in one go, for batch sending them trough BT to e.g. a BT carkit or other operations you want to carry out involving all contacts instead of one by one. tap and hold on a contact and you should see "Select all contacts" in the pop-up menu.

youve been a huge help koksie, i appreciate it. Any idea why my soungs are stored in the windows folder and under windows/rings? It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder but it will out of the rings folder. The only reason i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder is i feel if i do then i wont be able to select the deleted ones as ring tones even though they are still in my windows folder. Maybe i should just leave this as is...

Have a search for a free utility called Where Is My RAM? WIMR. As I can best recall this will run on WM5 too and will list your files in order of size. A real boon!

There's a program called Registry Wizard made by one of the geniuses here that will set your IE temp/cache files to be saved to the storage card. I use it and love it! It also has a lot of other tweaks for performance, annoyances, etc....
Do a search for it.
Hell....it's still on the first page when I do a search for "8125"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=8125

I store all my songs on the storage mini SD card. Only my ringtones and mp3 I want to set as ringtone are in the windows/rings dir. All the songs I only use for listening are on my SD card. Use total Commander (freeware) to delete all the stuff you don't need in the windows dir. This app has more possibilities than the standard file explorer. Just save your songs you need for ringtones on your main mem (windows/rings) and move all other songs to your SD card. Sorry, kinda wasted right now, just got home at 4.30 AM after "some" drinking, so I might not make much sense, but I might be more clear later on after some sleep...

Memory drain

Hello all, I need some advice on how to configure my G3 Wizard (Cingular 8125) so that it doesn't drain my memory so fast anymore. I started with 40 MB free memory about 2 months ago, and now I'm down to only 5 MB, and I'm about to run out very soon. Anyone know what's going on here and why memory is depleting so fast?
I don't use my phone to get on the internet often, maybe once every two weeks or so, therefore I don't think it's the IE temp files that are doing it. I have the Molski AKU3.3 ROM loaded and very few extra programs (a couple games, magic button, TCPMP media player, and Google Maps which I've only used once so far).
If there's anything else you guys need to know to make it easier to help me out, please let me know and I'll do my best to provide you with the info. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Oh, and I do have a 2GB memory card installed as well so that's where all my pics, videos, music, etc. is stored.
The programs I listed and temp files are all still being stored to the device, but as I said I don't have very much loaded and I don't use the internet often. So I really don't think that's the problem..

K-Fox said:
Oh, and I do have a 2GB memory card installed as well so that's where all my pics, videos, music, etc. is stored.
The programs I listed and temp files are all still being stored to the device, but as I said I don't have very much loaded and I don't use the internet often. So I really don't think that's the problem..
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I am taking a guess here with google maps. Also delete temporary internet files too.
Note that if you select a song from SD card to be the the default ringtone, besides the case it's stored in "Storage Card\My Documents" it will be copyed to the \Windows directory ..so you might wanna check that too.
Try installing SK Tools and use it's cleaning power.

"Storage Memory is Critically Low..."

Dear friends:
I have posted a similar question on the Hermes Mobile 6 section. Sorry for being a bit ridiculous. But I am quite desparate because this problem is driving me crazy...
I'm using a T-Mobiles MDA (838Pro) running WM6, CE OS 5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1), ROM Version: 3.54.707.3.
For the last month or so, I kept getting messages to say that my Storage Memory is critically low.
I have all my documents, ring tones, music, photos, video, etc. saved on my storage card. So there is practically nothing stored in the device ROM. I've checked all folders under "My Device", and there weren't really a lot of files in there.
I've used Oxios ClearApp and Hibernate to do clean up a few times a day. But that doesn't seems to help.
I've installed Clear Temp and use that to clean up the temp files. It works for a few days, but then the problem returned.
I've even deleted some programs, but it looks like whatever gets freed up will just be quickly be eaten up again.
Tonight, things have gone worse... My Storage Memory has dropped so low that I can't even send out any long SMS anymore.
It looks like I might have found where the problem is, but still don't know how it happened and how to solve it.
First, when I open Settings>Remove Programs, I see that practically all the appication programs are listed under "Programs in storage memory", including those that weren't even installed by me, like "Cyberon VoiceCommander". I'm not sure whether this is talking about the same "Storage Memory". But I thought that when I choose "Install in My Device" when installing a program, it is supposed to go into the "Program Memory", not "Storage Memory"?
Secondly, I took a closer look under "File Explorer", and I've finally found a few files that are very large size:
pim.vol (in root directory), 6.35MB
cemail.vol (in root directory), 412KB
compimeh.0904 (in Windows directory), 16.8MB
It also looks like these files will be amended every time when I do an ActiveSync. Not sure whether this is what caused my Storage Memory to go down everyday.
Has anyone experienced something similar? Would anyone have an idea of what these files are and whether it is safe to delete them?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thank you very much!
John

Internet Cache
Im sure you have already done this but make sure that your Internet Explorer Cache is stored on the Storage Card. This can eat memory very quickly.

kismat1970 said:
Im sure you have already done this but make sure that your Internet Explorer Cache is stored on the Storage Card. This can eat memory very quickly.
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I think I'm always keeping them there. And I have been using Clear Temp to clean them up to. But it doesn't help.
But just in case I haven't done it right, how can I check or change it? I checked the "Options" in IE, but couldn't find anything.
Thanks!

Thanks to those who were reading and trying to help. I have part of the mystery solved.
From this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343878&highlight=compimeh.0904
I learnt that the file compimeh.0904.dat is in fact the dictionary that the Hermes used to autofill when we type our e-mails and messages. It will keep growing as we use those functions.
I have followed the instruction on the thread and deleted the file. Now I have 16.8MB back.
But I still don't understand how 30MB of my Storage Memory would be occupied. If some friends here can shed some light, it would be most appreciated.

When installing programs, if you select 'device' as the target, the program will be installed in storage memory.
It's a bit misleading, but program memory is ram, where running programs reside etc..

Volatile Directory - 80MB

Hello Guys,
Today I installed a cab to my phone. Usally I have around 100MB free on my device. But today there where only around 10MB?
I searched around and found a mysterious directory in the Application Data directory called "Volatile" which exactly eats up the missing space...
I said to myself, mhh are you trying to move that directory to storage card and risk a hard-reset? I did it and my device still works.
But I want to know from where this directory "Volatile" came?!
Scilor

the app data\volatile folder is a system temp folder. clearing shouldn't be a problem (unless maybe you clear it before restarting after installing something, perhaps).
You can also reg edit the location to move it to your storage card, at
hklm\system\filesys and change the path.

Thank you, so what exctly it is for?

scilor said:
Thank you, so what exctly it is for?
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its the wm5 and above equivalent of \temp in wm2003. just somewhere the system dumps files, especially when installing and such like. so long as nothing is running when you do, just empty it now and again.

Keep it off!
As for the HD2 - you may NOT delete this folder!
Reason for my frequent hardresetting in the past was deleting this folder - directly or by third party apps to gain storage space.
If you did so - your phone won't be able to recognize soundformats - it won't ring or play anything after deleting this folder!
Cover arts will be skipped very fast, because sense thinks that tracks are played in no time. Very frustrating bug.
Discovered it this morning ... and wanted to share it with the community as none knows about that.

I never had a problem with this, I only deleted the content. But thank you for that info.
So I will now just move the files to my SD card

I emptied it regularly when I was on winmo, never had a problem.

Htc 2 internal memory !!

Hi there. Just wondering if anyone has a solution to resolving my internal memory situation, my phone keeps telling that the internal memory in critically low, I've deletes all my messages, most of my pictures bar the odd few that were sent to me from some hot chick, and I mean really hot!! sorry as I was saying, I deleted almost everything and I still keep on getting this message popping up. Does anyone know what I need to do, and also would it be advisable to save my message and everything else to the SD card automatically once it's sorted?
Cheers

try ClearTemp,
if you want some insight into storage load, try MemMaid - it has nice 'Storage usage' tab, to quote:
See where your storage memory is consumed, explore those directories using the system file explorer (or your own custom explorer) or compare the directories size using MemMaid's charts
(app is commercial, but this feature should work on trial version)

Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
65. + 67 are two hints off the top of my head.

Go to My Device\Application Data\HTC\HTC Album and delete the contents of the folder and the Cache folder. You can get 20 meg + in there quite easily.
If you don't use WM default ringtones you can delete My Device\Windows\Rings that will save you 6 meg.
My Device\My Documents\My Wallpapers will save you 3 meg.
And using Clear Temp is a very good idea, make sure all of your photos are being saved on the SD card.
Installing programs to your SD card also, some will by default save to the system device like some of the HD2 games.
You can also just force-delete some of the programs on your HD2 that you don't use by going to My Device\Program Files, taking out the ones that are installed by default with your networks ROM is a good idea.
And if you haven't already, flashing a custom ROM will reduce your OS's footprint even further, I can get ~165 meg of free storage from Energy ROMs following the steps above after flashing a new ROM, that's only ~35 meg of memory used by the system, instead of ~60 meg from your network providers ROM.