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Advice: Nexus One over iPhone (not quite a vs. thread)

So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.

lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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they're both amazing.
the nexus one is great. features and all. but after like three months, you kinda want your iphone back.. or i do at least.
depending on the 4th Generation iPhone, i may upgrade.
for the time being though, i LOVE my nexus one..
buy it if you are having any doubts. you wont be sorry.

all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah

That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)

lostinbeta said:
That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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ya i love my macbook its the best thing that ever happened to me ahah..and honestly the chance of bricking and iphone while jailbreaking is slim to none but its a pain when apple is constantly sending you updates to unjailbreak it..trust me you will not be jealous of their iphones

bobdude5 said:
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
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Awesome note with the games though, I don't play games on my phone much (sadly I'm horribly addicted to solitaire...haha) so I never really got into the games aspect, I only have one or two on my iPod Touch, most of the time I use the basic Apps which are also available on Android (twitter, facebook, shazaam, things like that). So that's a good thing to keep in mind.
I think one of my biggest worries is battery life. I don't work a job where I can charge my phone at all throughout the day, and there are times I leave at 8am and don't get home until 7pm or later, and I don't want to have to worry that my phone won't make it. My WinMo phone always ends at around 60% with standard/moderate use so I never have to worry about running home to get a charge if I get hung up after work.

idk man, by far the best phone i have ever owned so far. (may be contradicting to what i just said but i literally do not care)
features list is just BOOM!
battery is amazing for me. no dead pixels. saturated screen. bright flashlight (nexus one torch).. idk so many to list.
if you wanna buy RIGHT NOW. go for the nexus one,
but
if you can wait til July...... wait. becuase you may regret it if you dont have the money to buy the newest badass thing, like maybe the 4Gen iPhone, and new product from HTC, or anyone... really its all so hard to tell but if you can wait, i think that'd be in your best interest.
and the only thing i miss about the iphone thats slowly sucking me back in (happens about twice a year, ive owned all the iphones and sold them too haha) is the slickkkkkk UI. the LARGE community and the apps that actually work clean, and flawlessly. the iphones' transition between homescreens is definitely smooth as butter. nexus one? smooth as sand paper.. the ability to take screen shots on the iphone with ease... idk.. haha

nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)

bobdude5 said:
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
cool i didnt know about that app! thanks!
although you dont need an app for the iphone haha

lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)

bobdude5 said:
lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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i totally agree.. just one night i forgot to plug it in. died later that day though (didnt necessarily let it "die" i just shut it off at like 2%)

My phone is simply perfect. No issues whatsoever, apparently I am one of the lucky Nexus owners. The only thing though, I do like about the iPhone more - is the UI polish. Apple is simply great at designing things. I'm ok though, as long as I have a Desire ROM. HTC Sense is quite nice.

Youll be happy with the nexus. It is great now and stands to realize much of its latent potential if Google wants it to. If you've had an iPhone you will definitely be disappointed in the touch screen. It's possible though that Android might be able to iron out some of the jittery, jumpiness of the nexus touch screen. But its a decent screen,those who have never used an iPhone think the nexus has the best touch screen there is so its definitely not a deal breaker.
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser. But the nexus gpu definitely loads pages faster. I think I'm just rambling now...

lostinbeta said:
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
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Multitasking
The fact that it's unique and NOT an iPhone that everyone and their mother has
Customization
Live wallpapers
High resolution (2.5 times the iPhone)
Flash Lite
DMaverick50 said:
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?
No denying that? I 10000% heartily deny that. Disagree to the nth power.

lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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It all comes down to your personal preference. You can read all types of reviews and you'll see that Nexus One wins over iPhone 3GS. The features of the phone are outstanding. Just ask yourself what you want in your phone. If you want lots of applications, music, go for iPhone but if you want free applications, customizations, widgets, great camera, blazing fast web experience, go for Nexus One. Its just a matter of time before android applications touch the mark set by iPhone. Once you root your Nexus One, its going to be a whole world of possibilities....
For the issues you read about Nexus One, I want to tell you that the tinted screen is only present in the newer devices which would be very soon fixed by an update. The capacitive buttons work perfectly when pressed on the upper half of the button. The dust problem is present in a very small no. or hardwares and if you live in US, then you can call for a replacement if it happens with you.
Android would very soon be taken up by most of the mobile makers as its open sourced and free. I read somewhere that the phone companies who have taken up android OS have to pay very little in comparison to Windows Mobile.
So go for Nexus One, you wont be sorry....

Here's what I wrote in another forum regarding this question:
Having thought about it I realised that the choice to go for an N1 is easy if it fits your needs. Since it has been released all the focus has been on how it compares to the iphone. Understandable as apple set a high bar with many features such as the apps, the graphical physics and ease of use. The n1 more or less matches them and comparing many of these features doesn't get you far. They both are fantastic bits of hardware, great screens, amazing computing power, touchscreens etc. In some ways the N1 performs a bit better in others the iphone but the differences between them are small.
However I think the N1 has gone to a new level with features the iphone simply hasn't got. I don't have to open an app to access the information I want. My calender, agenda, weather, news, daily Bible reading, personal photo's, music player (and playlists) one touch dialling to favourite contacts (and many other thing I don't use) all run on my home pages. And here's where it moves mobile information on; all these widgets update automatically and wirelessly. I don't have to plug my phone into my computer to update my agenda, it happen without hassle right onto my homescreen. Furthermore these services are free - and yes I did pay for mobile me and no its not worth it.
Bottom line is that both the iphone and the N1 are great bits of kit, you won't notice many gains in function between either hardware as far as I can tell but the software has moved on from simply apps. Unfortunately the press just focus on the things that you can compare but the how can you compare widget on a N1 to nothing on the iphone? The N1 is in a different class to the iphone because it does things the iphone can't dream of doing, try to keep up apple!

Thank You everybody. Your advice has been helpful. I actually feel that the Android UI is nicer than the iPhone, to me the iPhone seems plain. Though I will admit that the iPhone is probably a little more user friendly, I don't mind the extra clicks on Android, and it's not like it's difficult to figure out by any stretch of the means. And it's good to know that the issues people are having are only occurring in a small percentage of devices, I was really worried that I would throw down that kind of money and have a jacked phone that only lasted me half a day and had a dusty mis-tinted screen...haha. Hopefully I'll be able to get my N1 ordered by the end of this month.
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.

actually its less clicks for android lol you know with the widgets and all..with the iphone it takes four clicks to modify your brightness for android it takes one, it takes 3 clicks to turn on wifi and bluetooth on iphone and on android it takes one, it takes 4 clicks for gps on iphone and android 1, it takes 3 clicks to post something on facebook and 1 on android (same for myspace), it takes takes 2 clicks to search on iphone and none on android..you see my point lol

lostinbeta said:
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
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Warranty is 1 year, you will get hot feet by then. There should be desire screenshots around. CyanogenMod's UI is identical to stock, extra features being the selling point.
zachthemaster said:
slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
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Are you running on the HTC Li-Ion battery or some new U-235 battery?

The Nexus One is great. I don't have complaints so far other than the tiny loudspeaker. Heard that the Desire ROM gives it a louder volume. Anyway, like someone has pointed out, if you can wait until June, I would wait. I think Apple sees the Android OS as a thread so they must be building something big for the iphone 4Gen. The iphone 4Gen will probably be better the Nexus One... BUT I am confident that the Nexus Two or whatever Google wants to release in the future will take over eventually
Not saying the Nexus One will lose to the 4Gen for sure. Remember FroYo and Flash 10 are coming to the Nexus One.

Pros and Cons

Those of you who have theirs already,
POST'EM UP!

There was a reviews thread around earlier...between that and all the "this phone sux" threads, I think you kinda already have it.

thecodemonk said:
There was a reviews thread around earlier...between that and all the "this phone sux" threads, I think you kinda already have it.
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just thought it'd be nice to have it one place for reference.
you know,in a list form.

Just got mine this afternoon, here are my first impressions:
Pros:
-The screen is absolutely GORGEOUS, one of my biggest issues with past phones (came from the Hero) was the poor quality of the screen compared to, say, an iPhone. This screen blows it away. Its super crisp, very bright and absolutely massive. Its a true joy to browse the web, shoot pictures, watch videos and just plain interact. 10 minutes after I got it I jumped back on my Hero and was amazed at how I ever lasted the 6 months on it.
-Picture quality (still photos), I thought was quite impressive for a phone, and the front facing camera is cool, however it may be a little gimmicky. My dad has an iPhone and I'm sure when the new one comes out he'll get it and I can see us using the cameras to catch up sometimes when I'm down at school, but you do feel kinda silly walking around with the phone in front of your face.
-The phone itself is rather large (obviously), but feels satisfyingly dense and has just the right amount of weight behind it. Feels great in the hand as well.
-The speed is also mindblowing. Everything just plain feels faster, probably because it is. What I found the most improved was navigating the Marketplace, which strangely always felt laggy to me on the Hero. Not anymore, the Evo is literally click-click-click-click DONE. VERY impressive. Text entry also seems very much improved.
Just like any device, it's not without its faults:
-The camera (video), I feel is a little unimpressive. Still it is a very good camera for a phone, it just doesn't pack that same WOW factor as the rest of the device.
-I'm a little worried how the lens itself will hold up, as many have mentioned, the back does rest right on the glass. This is easily fixed with a case though (which I hope to purchase soon).
-SenseUI is also not very appealing to me, I find it incredibly bland and in some sense (no pun intended) flat out ugly. I much prefer the stock Android home. I could also do without the Sprint Bloatware. Both will be addressed with the first custom 2.2 ROM
Things I can't address yet:
-The battery life: I received the phone with approximately 25-30% battery and wanted to run it all the way down before I recharged it fully. I was quite impressed at the lengths I had to go to to get it down to 0. I was watching a live stream on USTREAM, had wifi, gps, sync and bluetooth on, screen on full brightness, and was consistently bouncing back and forth between Google Earth, YouTube and web browsing. Even with all of this, it took 3-4 hours to run down completely. Not bad at all for extremely heavy use
-4G, unfortunately Indy isn't scheduled for 4G until 2012. I should be making a trip up to Chicago soon though and can comment further if requested. There are a ton of people who are in 4G areas who can comment on 4G speeds though.
Anything specific just ask, I'd be glad to address any questions you, or anyone, may have.

booyakasha said:
Just got mine this afternoon, here are my first impressions:
-SenseUI is also not very appealing to me, I find it incredibly bland and in some sense (no pun intended) flat out ugly. I much prefer the stock Android home. I could also do without the Sprint Bloatware. Both will be addressed with the first custom 2.2 ROM
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You know if you go to settings>applications>manage applications>HTC sense> and scroll down and click clear defaults, you take off sense.
As soon as you click home it will give you an option for sense or launcher (stock android) and then click automatically choose this option and it will keep whichever you like for default.
However the black notification bar, dialer, and lock screen will all be sense as well. And you cannot have the HTC widgets.

booyakasha said:
Just got mine this afternoon, here are my first impressions:
Pros:
-The screen is absolutely GORGEOUS, one of my biggest issues with past phones (came from the Hero) was the poor quality of the screen compared to, say, an iPhone. This screen blows it away. Its super crisp, very bright and absolutely massive. Its a true joy to browse the web, shoot pictures, watch videos and just plain interact. 10 minutes after I got it I jumped back on my Hero and was amazed at how I ever lasted the 6 months on it.
-Picture quality (still photos), I thought was quite impressive for a phone, and the front facing camera is cool, however it may be a little gimmicky. My dad has an iPhone and I'm sure when the new one comes out he'll get it and I can see us using the cameras to catch up sometimes when I'm down at school, but you do feel kinda silly walking around with the phone in front of your face.
-The phone itself is rather large (obviously), but feels satisfyingly dense and has just the right amount of weight behind it. Feels great in the hand as well.
-The speed is also mindblowing. Everything just plain feels faster, probably because it is. What I found the most improved was navigating the Marketplace, which strangely always felt laggy to me on the Hero. Not anymore, the Evo is literally click-click-click-click DONE. VERY impressive. Text entry also seems very much improved.
Just like any device, it's not without its faults:
-The camera (video), I feel is a little unimpressive. Still it is a very good camera for a phone, it just doesn't pack that same WOW factor as the rest of the device.
-I'm a little worried how the lens itself will hold up, as many have mentioned, the back does rest right on the glass. This is easily fixed with a case though (which I hope to purchase soon).
-SenseUI is also not very appealing to me, I find it incredibly bland and in some sense (no pun intended) flat out ugly. I much prefer the stock Android home. I could also do without the Sprint Bloatware. Both will be addressed with the first custom 2.2 ROM
Things I can't address yet:
-The battery life: I received the phone with approximately 25-30% battery and wanted to run it all the way down before I recharged it fully. I was quite impressed at the lengths I had to go to to get it down to 0. I was watching a live stream on USTREAM, had wifi, gps, sync and bluetooth on, screen on full brightness, and was consistently bouncing back and forth between Google Earth, YouTube and web browsing. Even with all of this, it took 3-4 hours to run down completely. Not bad at all for extremely heavy use
-4G, unfortunately Indy isn't scheduled for 4G until 2012. I should be making a trip up to Chicago soon though and can comment further if requested. There are a ton of people who are in 4G areas who can comment on 4G speeds though.
Anything specific just ask, I'd be glad to address any questions you, or anyone, may have.
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I've been to the sprint store and had a chance to play w/ one.
everything seems awesome, except it felt a little jerky,not smooth like the Hero/Eris.
And I noticed a little bit of glitch when going from the camera to home screen too fast. as Sprint has the best plan, I kinda have to go with them.
I just don't wanna think that HTC/Sprint would fudge things up to be cheap. I mean where's the AMOLED love? all in all, I'm sure I'm going to love this phone.

1wingangel said:
I've been to the sprint store and had a chance to play w/ one.
everything seems awesome, except it felt a little jerky,not smooth like the Hero/Eris.
And I noticed a little bit of glitch when going from the camera to home screen too fast. as Sprint has the best plan, I kinda have to go with them.
I just don't wanna think that HTC/Sprint would fudge things up to be cheap. I mean where's the AMOLED love? all in all, I'm sure I'm going to love this phone.
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Here's to hoping the jerkiness you experienced is attributed to early software on the device(s). Regarding AMOLED, there's no way HTC could have possibly included a 4.3" AMOLED display in this phone. There are two main reasons why.
1. AMOLED technology is very expensive as it is at 3.7", I can't imagine how much it would cost for them to order 4.3" displays from their providers. There's no doubt that significant cost would have been diverted to us.
2. AMOLED displays are in short supply. The Droid Incredible's been out of stock for a while because HTC can't get enough AMOLED displays to produce the number of Incredibles that would satisfy the demand of the buying public.

Mecha2142 said:
Here's to hoping the jerkiness you experienced is attributed to early software on the device(s). Regarding AMOLED, there's no way HTC could have possibly included a 4.3" AMOLED display in this phone. There are two main reasons why.
1. AMOLED technology is very expensive as it is at 3.7", I can't imagine how much it would cost for them to order 4.3" displays from their providers. There's no doubt that significant cost would have been diverted to us.
2. AMOLED displays are in short supply. The Droid Incredible's been out of stock for a while because HTC can't get enough AMOLED displays to produce the number of Incredibles that would satisfy the demand of the buying public.
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The jerkiness is def a software problem. I'm sure it's because android isn't meant to be on a screen this huge....yet.
2.2 will surely fix it.
thanx for the screen input, I had no idea about an AMOLED shortage.

samsung i9000 has a Super Amoled on a 4 inch screen, but it is also gonna be considered cheap at $500, and stores in the uk have them for upwards of $600 so i guess you do have a point
ps: i do not actually own either of the two phones
edit: but i wont mind $100 more for a display like the samsung

Sounds like you just got a quirky device. I haven't experienced anything like that. I'm amazed at how smooth and responsive it is :/
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engineer14 said:
samsung i9000 has a Super Amoled on a 4 inch screen, but it is also gonna be considered cheap at $500, and stores in the uk have them for upwards of $600 so i guess you do have a point
ps: i do not actually own either of the two phones
edit: but i wont mind $100 more for a display like the samsung
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That's because Samsung is the company that's producing the AMOLED displays for HTC. Seems like they're cutting the supply they send to them to use in their own devices as of lately. That's why they don't have to charge as much for the devices; they make the displays themselves.

@1wingangel
If that phone was sitting in the Sprint store with everyone playing with it and no task killer installed. I bet every single application was still running and it was still just a lil jerky. I can't imagine people didn't turn all apps and play with it, unless you tried one new out of the box.

jeffrimerman said:
If that phone was sitting in the Sprint store with everyone playing with it and no task killer installed. I bet every single application was still running and it was still just a lil jerky. I can't imagine people didn't turn all apps and play with it, unless you tried one new out of the box.
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no, it was the display model.
so yeah, I'm sure there were alot of apps running,but isn't the point of having all that ram/rom to be able to have a ton of apps running all at once?

1wingangel said:
no, it was the display model.
so yeah, I'm sure there were alot of apps running,but isn't the point of having all that ram/rom to be able to have a ton of apps running all at once?
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yeah that is true. I haven't noticed any lag with 21 apps running before I installed a task killer. It was lightning fast. My only con is the power drain when it is sitting overnight. And that apps randomly start up in the background. I see my 3g on and arrows going up and down when it was sitting overnight or maybe that happens when I turn on the screen. I lose a third to half my batter overnight, but someone also said it has to be drained and charged a few times and it will get better. My brother has the 3gS and he said it blows it away.

Mecha2142 said:
Here's to hoping the jerkiness you experienced is attributed to early software on the device(s). Regarding AMOLED, there's no way HTC could have possibly included a 4.3" AMOLED display in this phone. There are two main reasons why.
1. AMOLED technology is very expensive as it is at 3.7", I can't imagine how much it would cost for them to order 4.3" displays from their providers. There's no doubt that significant cost would have been diverted to us.
2. AMOLED displays are in short supply. The Droid Incredible's been out of stock for a while because HTC can't get enough AMOLED displays to produce the number of Incredibles that would satisfy the demand of the buying public.
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AMOLED display is also craptastic in sunlight. Super AMOLED is better though...but obviously even more expensive with more supply issues.

1wingangel said:
no, it was the display model.
so yeah, I'm sure there were alot of apps running,but isn't the point of having all that ram/rom to be able to have a ton of apps running all at once?
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They said it would run all of them at once, not that it would work smoothly with them all running at once No matter how much memory you have allocated, there are still limits~

Xenithflare said:
They said it would run all of them at once, not that it would work smoothly with them all running at once No matter how much memory you have allocated, there are still limits~
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okay, so I just got back from radioshack, And the guy said that he killed all running background apps and live wallpapers, and it still felt jerky(not laggy),but jerky.
my only thought is that maybe I just never noticed it before,coming from a smaller screen. or maybe the display models just aren't up to par.
p.s. I've also been spoiled by custom roms on mt3g

minus a few bugs the only con is that the screen takes up so much realestate that i am always accidentally activating icons on the screen and the 4 onscreen buttons are way too sensitive.
I was about to buy a BB or Nokia for business and use the EVO for fun but so far this phone is working just fine for business. this is a fast device and i haven't noticed any lag and i am running tons of widgets and running apps that constantly update.
forgot to mention that i will be returning it for a replacement on Tuesday for one without a dead pixel.

1wingangel said:
okay, so I just got back from radioshack, And the guy said that he killed all running background apps and live wallpapers, and it still felt jerky(not laggy),but jerky.
my only thought is that maybe I just never noticed it before,coming from a smaller screen. or maybe the display models just aren't up to par.
p.s. I've also been spoiled by custom roms on mt3g
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Judging from demos in my own store, I can attest to the fact that as soon as we put a unit on display (whether GPS or phone), it immediately becomes defective It's like a rule.

No jerkiness here...
Only time I experienced lag was when I tried turning on 4G while downloading/installing about 10 apps at once when I first got it, even then it was hardly noticeable.
YouTube freezes up on me when I try switching from HQ sometimes.
MixZing and Last.FM act weird together for me. Sometimes Last.FM will just close and MixZing will start playing music off my SD card randomly. I uninstall MixZing and haven't had an issue after that. Kind of strange.
Supposedly I am in 4G coverage but I don't get very good signal, not sure what that is about. I don't really mind since I use Wi-Fi at home/work. I'd have to play with it more to see if its an actual problem.
Everything else is pretty awesome.

iPhone 4- Played with it... No Thanks

So my father picked up the iPhone 4 yesterday, and we played with it for hours. We both had a 3g and 3gs in the past.
All I can say is, man am I glad I switched to the EVO! For starters, the screen on the iPhone 4 is too small to appreciate the glamorous "Retina" display.
I opened up the "iBook" application and looked at the sample book in there. How the heck can you read on that screen? The colors look sharp, but hardly any text fits on the page.
I think Apple shouldn't have wasted so much space on the bezel and bumped the screen up to 4 inches.
The next big caveat was not being able to visit flash sites on the iPhone 4. That really pissed off my dad, because I was flaunting the EVO loading the same pages in glorious flash. In the past, I didn't realize how important flash was. I looked pass the limitation because it was a holy Apple device. Not so much anymore... And I love how Android gives you the option to load flash on demand.
I actually much preferred the curvier shape of the previous iPhones. The iPhone 4's box shape irritated my hands after 15 minutes of use.
The final thing that got my dad riled up was the fact that video chat is only allowed between iphone 4's and limited strictly to wifi. I showed him fring and quik with all of their video chat glory over 3g, and that made him oh so jealous.
This might seem like a small thing, but the kickstand on the EVO is an important feature to me... I'm really glad HTC included it.
At the end of the night, my dad said he was going to write a letter to Apple asking them to put a bigger screen on the next iPhone, lol.
Overall, the new iPhone 4 is quite snappy and responsive, but that's all it is. It is true that the App Store has apps that still aren't available on the Android market (still waiting for Bloomberg), but they're coming... The retina display looks crisp, but that damn screen is too tiny to appreciate it. All the other features, such as the 5 megapixel camera and the front facing camera, are NOT revolutionary. They have been around for quite some time.
Apple makes incremental improvements but claims they're "Magical" and "Revolutionary". I bought that **** for a while, but it really is played out now.
I love my EVO, and I love Android. I'm free to do whatever I want with my phone...
Edit: How could I have forgotten... 4G Wimax baby!!! Suck on that fanboys

I'm really glad to hear that. I bet you can hold your evo how ever you want and not drop a call too lol.

JAREDR said:
I'm really glad to hear that. I bet you can hold your evo how ever you want and not drop a call too lol.
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I know, right!

There's 2 other things that I feel the iPhone has over the EVO and that's the gyroscope and the iPhone's ability to record HD videos in H.264 and AAC audio compared to the EVO's limitation of MPEG4 video and 8kHz Narrowband AMR audio. But all of the reasons you mention are the same reasons I knew the EVO was my next phone. Still enjoying it and know I made the right decision.

Thanks for the review!!
I love my EVO and the Android OS.

Literally apples and oranges mate. Last i heard from Engadget, their iPhone 4 (review) lasted 30-something hours and they used the heck out of it. So not being able to view flash content does not matter to some folks. I've had an iPod Touch for the longest and never concerned about flash really when mobile browsing.
4G is nice in theory but how long does your battery last. The Evo barely lasts a whole day right now as it is.
Face time video chat is only wifi for now until end of year (At&T's crappy network might be to blame there as well) they said plus anyone can hook into the API and use it with their app. Skype already mentioned interest, so who knows if it might move from iPhone 4 - iPhone 4 as it is now to cross platform.
You make valid points but I've played with the Evo and not fully satisfied with the performance and definitely not with the battery life. I literally had to turn off everything useful just to eek out a work day's worth of juice.

I turn my 4g off unless I visit a heavy content site on the go. That's where it shines... when you need it for quick bursts of speed.
As far as battery life, here is something I absolutely do not comprehend...
Why in the world do you need your battery to last longer than 24 hours? Plug it in at night you lazy bastards, lol (to diffuse any tension)... My EVO is on 15% before I go to sleep, and that is with heavy use throughout the whole day. I suck a lot of data through my web browsing. I am definitely satisfied as it gets me through the day. Might there be a day when I go overboard and I have to plug in before night time? Yes. So what, it's not often.
I think the whole battery life lasting for days-on-end-thing is brainwash and a stroke of the ego.
Now if your EVO is not lasting all day, that is another story. You should check out some of the custom ROMS in the DEV section. They rock! I am using Avalaunch's EVOlution 8 Rev A, and it works wonders. I love froyo.
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Literally apples and oranges mate. Last i heard from Engadget, their iPhone 4 (review) lasted 30-something hours and they used the heck out of it. So not being able to view flash content does not matter to some folks. I've had an iPod Touch for the longest and never concerned about flash really when mobile browsing.
4G is nice in theory but how long does your battery last. The Evo barely lasts a whole day right now as it is.
Face time video chat is only wifi for now until end of year (At&T's crappy network might be to blame there as well) they said plus anyone can hook into the API and use it with their app. Skype already mentioned interest, so who knows if it might move from iPhone 4 - iPhone 4 as it is now to cross platform.
You make valid points but I've played with the Evo and not fully satisfied with the performance and definitely not with the battery life. I literally had to turn off everything useful just to eek out a work day's worth of juice.
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I was a iphone owner for the better part of 3 years, my father recently purchased the iphone as well. He's coming from the blackberry bold. I asked myself what is on the iphone 4 that I'm missing on my 3g iphone? I really don't see it. The devices out there elsewhere are fantastic, and without such restriction.
For my father though, I'm sure he appreciates it more.
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I stand by the OP. I has both a 3g and a 3gs and the iPhone4 was a contender until I used the Evo for a bit and realized how awesome having a nice 4.3" screen is. Apple just didn't want to go back to the drawling board and make their screen larger. While the Evo does have it's limitations I do love it. And with any luck most of the bugs will be worked out by ROM developers, where as everyone must wait for anything to be fixed by Apple, not to mention I would never get an iPhone if I could not jailbreak it... and that looks bleak with the new OTA updates ATT and Apple are going to be doing. Also another huge problem with the phone is ATT, they blow.

I also hear you can't multi-task like you can on the EVO. My friend said it has more color to the display than the EVO does. He said that's all it has on the EVO. Not to mention that ATT is ditching all their everything plans and capping the maximum you can download every month. No thank you Apple... I'll gladly stick with my EVO.

I returned my evo to get an iphone 4. Screw HTC build quality and horrible buggy software. The Evo's UI is so unbelievably laggy I can't believe that anyone can stand it. Even my non-techie wife thought it looked like a piece of crap from the 90s.
I'm glad that apple products don't have flash. Flash is a security vulnerability and a complete and utter annoyance on the internet. I can not wait until it is completely eliminated.
You know a phone is a piece of garbage when you start it up for the first time and the first thing you see after the boot screen is an error message saying an application had to be closed. That's what happened to both of my evos.

kluster1999 said:
I turn my 4g off unless I visit a heavy content site on the go. That's where it shines... when you need it for quick bursts of speed.
As far as battery life, here is something I absolutely do not comprehend...
Why in the world do you need your battery to last longer than 24 hours? Plug it in at night you lazy bastards, lol (to diffuse any tension)... My EVO is on 15% before I go to sleep, and that is with heavy use throughout the whole day. I suck a lot of data through my web browsing. I am definitely satisfied as it gets me through the day. Might there be a day when I go overboard and I have to plug in before night time? Yes. So what, it's not often.
I think the whole battery life lasting for days-on-end-thing is brainwash and a stroke of the ego.
Now if your EVO is not lasting all day, that is another story. You should check out some of the custom ROMS in the DEV section. They rock! I am using Avalaunch's EVOlution 8 Rev A, and it works wonders. I love froyo.
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Why would you not need or want your battery to last 24 hrs or more? Where is the downside to that? Your rationalization is sad and pathetic really. So we are lazy bastards because we don't live next to an AC outlet or carry one around on the go. So you're knocking the iPhone because of it's better battery life vs the Evo and that's supposed to be a plus for the Evo..odd.
Like i said, apples and oranges. Different pluses and minuses to both. I'll trade front camera for better battery life on Evo anyday. Let's see what the Galaxy (Pro) brings to the table...

Apple stuck with 3.5" because the iPhone is a mainstream targeted device. Over 50% of the population (female) have smaller hands & Android is still male dominated.
IMO Evo needs official 2.2 asap (further Android refinements-UI, security, battery, etc) & I still need to do my own comparisons but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwutoAeGlI (iPhone 4 vs HTC EVO - Video Sample-iPhone 4 video+audio capture seem better unfortunately)
Vs. Reviews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzZ5kQWFyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULv-0xcciFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdZ5_V0C5HM

LordLugard said:
Why would you not need or want your battery to last 24 hrs or more? Where is the downside to that? Your rationalization is sad and pathetic really. So we are lazy bastards because we don't live next to an AC outlet or carry one around on the go. So you're knocking the iPhone because of it's better battery life vs the Evo and that's supposed to be a plus for the Evo..odd.
Like i said, apples and oranges. Different pluses and minuses to both. I'll trade front camera for better battery life on Evo anyday. Let's see what the Galaxy (Pro) brings to the table...
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A few of my friends are reporting that their battery isn't lasting as long as Engadgets did. It might be that it needs a few cycle but it has used up 6% in around 2 hours just using it as an iPod.
The Evo's battery isn't that bad, people are able to use up to 15-25 hours on a full charge. You just have to be somewhat knowledgable to achieve that. For me I don't need more than 10 hours since I have a desk job where I can plug in my phone, a car charger, etc.
If I plan on going away I can throw down 10$ and get an extra battery. iPhone 4 you don't have that option.
Apple is superb at setting the standard pretty low but still be at the top of the game. It's quite sad.

roybotnik said:
I returned my evo to get an iphone 4. Screw HTC build quality and horrible buggy software. The Evo's UI is so unbelievably laggy I can't believe that anyone can stand it. Even my non-techie wife thought it looked like a piece of crap from the 90s.
I'm glad that apple products don't have flash. Flash is a security vulnerability and a complete and utter annoyance on the internet. I can not wait until it is completely eliminated.
You know a phone is a piece of garbage when you start it up for the first time and the first thing you see after the boot screen is an error message saying an application had to be closed. That's what happened to both of my evos.
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The trolling force is strong with this one, indeed.

engagedtosmile said:
Apple is superb at setting the standard pretty low but still be at the top of the game. It's quite sad.
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Well they excel at UI simplification (unfortunately at the expense of options for power users)..hardware immediately after refresh can be compelling as well if you can tolerate the walled garden+network..

roybotnik said:
I returned my evo to get an iphone 4. Screw HTC build quality and horrible buggy software. The Evo's UI is so unbelievably laggy I can't believe that anyone can stand it. Even my non-techie wife thought it looked like a piece of crap from the 90s.
I'm glad that apple products don't have flash. Flash is a security vulnerability and a complete and utter annoyance on the internet. I can not wait until it is completely eliminated.
You know a phone is a piece of garbage when you start it up for the first time and the first thing you see after the boot screen is an error message saying an application had to be closed. That's what happened to both of my evos.
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Yep nice comment history. Sounds like Apple has you handing them money hook, line, and sinker. I came from a 3GS(only one I ever had) and never want to get an iPhone again.

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Well they excel at UI simplification (unfortunately at the expense of options for power users)..hardware immediately after refresh can be compelling as well if you can tolerate the walled garden+network..
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I believe their UI is ugly, icons on icons. No customization whatsoever. I bedazzle my friends when I switch from Sense to ADW launcher etc.
But that's really all iPhones are now, new hardware. I used my friends iPhone 4 and asked him if it does anything new from his 3GS. It doesn't.
I also laughed when I was using it and he got a notification. Notification pop-ups are so ****ty. Pretty much put the phone in a frozen state until you acknowledge it. I love having a pull down menu for my notifications.

I messed with one yesterday too, and really liked it. The screen is much crisper than my Evo. Also, pictures in the browser looked WORLDS better (I tried the stock browser and Dolphin HD) on the iPhone. Text was also much clearer when you zoomed in (it gets fuzzy when zooming in on the Evo).
My Evo still has it's advantages, and the iPhone wasn't good enough for me to switch back, but it was certainly good enough for me to consider just upgrading my wife's iPhone to a new one.

Vandam500 said:
The trolling force is strong with this one, indeed.
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I agree 100% with this comment, I felt a disturbance, the trolling force is strong within him.
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Hero vs. Evo: my experience

I have had both of these phones for a while now, and have not noticed a huge speed difference between them. (The Hero can get bogged down briefly, but it is very infrequent. And I should say that my first Hero was not nearly as fast as my current one for some reason…)
In my opinion the most noticeable differences are:
Size, of course. My typing on the huge screen is far more accurate on the Evo because the keys are further apart - this is a welcome change for sure. The Evo still fits in pockets easily though, and does not feel much heavier than the Hero. The Evo does feel very solid and high quality though, for sure. And the Evo screen's resolution is superb: it makes the Hero screen look pixelated when looking closely.
I miss the trackball - the nav keys on the Evo are nowhere near as convenient.
Sound quality for calls on my Hero is very good, but the Evo sounds even better. Very loud and clear on both ends. (and each of these sounds way better then the Blackberries I have been using)
3g data throughput is about the same on these phones, and even though I am in the middle of LA, there is no 4g that I can detect. Lame considering the $10 premium.
Battery life has been very good on the Evo. Seems to last as long as my Hero – which is to say at least 24 hours in normal use. And the Evo loses only about 1% charge or less per hour when in standby! (I am not using the Mail app on either phone, because the POP function kills the battery in a few hours. Instead I use the gmail app and have it POP my outside mail accounts for me, and they are pushed to the phone by Google. Works just as well as POP, and the battery life improvement is *drastic.*)
In all I would say if you are happy with the Hero and do not intend to watch movies or do a lot of gaming on your phone, you might want to wait and see which other Android phones come to Sprint.
I would also say that if you are itching for a new large screen phone or if you type a lot, this Evo looks and feels aswesome, and at $200 it is a steal.

Nice review, but let the flame wars begin!

ronnienyc said:
I have had both of these phones for a while now, and have not noticed a huge speed difference between them. (The Hero can get bogged down briefly, but it is very infrequent. And I should say that my first Hero was not nearly as fast as my current one for some reason…)
In my opinion the most noticeable differences are:
Size, of course. My typing on the huge screen is far more accurate on the Evo because the keys are further apart - this is a welcome change for sure. The Evo still fits in pockets easily though, and does not feel much heavier than the Hero. The Evo does feel very solid and high quality though, for sure. And the Evo screen's resolution is superb: it makes the Hero screen look pixelated when looking closely.
I miss the trackball - the nav keys on the Evo are nowhere near as convenient.
Sound quality for calls on my Hero is very good, but the Evo sounds even better. Very loud and clear on both ends. (and each of these sounds way better then the Blackberries I have been using)
3g data throughput is about the same on these phones, and even though I am in the middle of LA, there is no 4g that I can detect. Lame considering the $10 premium.
Battery life has been very good on the Evo. Seems to last as long as my Hero – which is to say at least 24 hours in normal use. And the Evo loses only about 1% charge or less per hour when in standby! (I am not using the Mail app on either phone, because the POP function kills the battery in a few hours. Instead I use the gmail app and have it POP my outside mail accounts for me, and they are pushed to the phone by Google. Works just as well as POP, and the battery life improvement is *drastic.*)
In all I would say if you are happy with the Hero and do not intend to watch movies or do a lot of gaming on your phone, you might want to wait and see which other Android phones come to Sprint.
I would also say that if you are itching for a new large screen phone or if you type a lot, this Evo looks and feels aswesome, and at $200 it is a steal.
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nice bro evo is now back on my mind agian

abcdfv said:
Nice review, but let the flame wars begin!
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FLAME ON!!!!
so the hero is a old dude and the evo is a baby new and nice but still annoys you with its screams

I just cant see people comparing... This is like comparing a 2002 Benz to a 2010 Benz. Sure you can update the 2002 to run just as fast and smooth as the 2010, but in the end, the 2010 can be updated even more to run like a 2020....
Sorry, I just use cars as comparisons a lot. The only constant thing that I see people complain about the Evo is... screen size, and what do you know, every new smartphone coming out now is 4+ inches lol.

DirtyShroomz said:
I just cant see people comparing...
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Well, the obvious reason for comparing is that a lot of people who have bought the Hero are considering the upgrade.

Thanks OP. I appreciate the insight. I like the sound of 1% battery drain per hour while sleeping but I am pretty content with my rooted Hero for now.

rulyskull said:
evo is a baby
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EVO is approaching "teenager" quickly in Sprint/HTC Smart Phone years.

wjason said:
I like the sound of 1% battery drain per hour while sleeping but I am pretty content with my rooted Hero for now.
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For the record, I am now getting better battery life out of the Evo! Hard to believe considering the screen size...
And I agree, this thing is large. But I am getting used to it, partly because the type on the screen is so much easier to read.

I love my Hero, as I still my exs!lol

Still doesnt make me wanna switch to the Evo.
My contract is up July 3rd. I was going to get the Evo, but if you say the speed is about the same then whats the point. I'd still rather have a N1 than the Evo.

the hero hasnt even been out for a year and people are already ditching it or talking about ditching it. the hero is still a badass phone. im keeping it till it breaks. and when it does break i'll get the latest and greatest phone cause i'll have all that money saved up and be laughing at the people who cant get it cause they blew all there money on a phone every 6 months.

Stellarex said:
Still doesnt make me wanna switch to the Evo.
..., but if you say the speed is about the same then whats the point. I'd still rather have a N1 than the Evo.
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Speed is not the same, but in practice there is not a big difference. Especially if your Hero is overclocked.
I say the main advantage is the huge screen - makes for much more comfortable reading, watching movies, sprint tv, games, etc. (I often strain to see the tiny type on the Hero screen - for example in the gmail app.) Also typing is much easier and more accurate on the big screen.
If you are not interested in a larger screen, keep your Hero.

My Att S3 review.

First of all let me give you a little background about myself. I am the mobile admin for a major software company in Silicon valley. I have access to any phone I feel that is worth testing so I can be completely unbiased. Here are the pros and cons of the S3 which I am now testing:
Pros:
1. Screen is big and very nice. It is pentile but I can barely tell. The iPhone 4s is a bit sharper but the s3 just looks better. Blacks are black. and they toned down the punchiness of the OMLED
2. The phone is thin and sexy. I got the casemate barley there which gives the phone more grip and fits like a glove.
Cons:
1. It gets warm with use.
2. When using auto brightness the avg brightness is to week. If it were bumped up about 25% it would be perfect or even better if you could adjust the avg brightness like you can with the iPhone it would be perfect.
2. Im in the bay area and do not get a solid LTE signal with ATT like I do on the iPad. Most of the times its on 4G 5 bars when my iPad has LTE. When it is in LTE I get the usual 20-40mbps which is great.
3. Android OS is just not as polished and solid as iOS. Yes it has more capabilities but it just doesn't work as well for me.
4. it was charged to 100 percent at midnight so I unplugged it and went to bed. Woke up at 7 am and it was at %50. I looked at the battery menu and didn't see anything out of the norm. Yes its possible I left some app running in the back ground but I should not have to worry about that. Apple got it right why can't google? If I ever forget to plug it in then it will most likely die in the middle of the night and I may miss an important work call. The iPhone can be at %20 and if I forget to charge it, it will be at %15 in the am.
Overall the perceived build quality doesn't compare to the iPhone 4s but its not bad with the gorilla glass 2 screen and Casemate barely there. Even though the 4S feels more solid Id feel safer dropping the S3 then the 4s since the 4S has more glass. Im really hoping to make this my primary phone but its no where near the 4S in terms of usefull functionality. Hardware wise its light years ahead. With the 4S i use it as a tool. With the S3 i use at so I can look at it and go ooooh ahhhh. I keep picking it up so I can run my finger across the awesome OMLED screen to hear the water and look at my background pic which is the dandy lion. Now if I could just blow on it

I'm curious, other than the OS on the iphone being a little more intuitive and user friendly, what functionality did you find in the iphone that you don't find in the S3? I'm coming over from an iphone myself and am finding that the whole iphone vs droid debate is a little overblown. Out of the actually functional uses and not just stuff to play around with and tweak, I haven't found much that one phone can do that the other can't. They both do pretty much the same things, just some of the things are done a little differently.
Well, except for the battery life on the S3 which from what I've read on this and other forums is a common issue and one which the iphone doesn't have. I'd have to say that that is my biggest disappointment with this phone.

I agree on somethings you have to say about the GS3, I too am a heavy iPhone user and I have been looking for a good Android to replace the iPhone 4s with. I have access to ANY phone I want as well and I have tested just about them all, One X's Lumina 900's ect they were all good but I kept coming back to the iPhone 4S, it just couldn't be beat.
Until now, I've been using an International GS3 and just switched to the ATT version and while both were good, the ATT model works better, I live in LTE even though my phone is on Home WiFi most of the time. I prefer the ATT over the Quad Core model.
But this thing does it all the iPhone does, I've got everything syncing back and forth with all the Mac's iPads ect, its all good to go.
The little iPhone screen is just to small these days, if your like my buddy that never tired a 4 plus inch screen then your fine with the iPhone, but no way can I try and read emails on the iPhone, just too small.
The GS3 is here to stay, until the next greatest thing comes out.
Oh and the Rock Case is way better the Case Mate's.:good:

Cool story bro.
TROLL BAIT!
Who are you again that we should all listen to your opinion?
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Yes i am a troll. Im a troll that really likes this phone. Im going to give it more time. Ive tried 100s of Android phones and hands down this is the best. compared to the iPhone its quirky but I'm bored out of my mind with the iPhone 4 design and small screen so I'm think I'm going to switch to this baby until the iPhone 5 hits the market in 4 months or so.

I too would like to hear what the iPhone can do that the s3 can't? I also went from the iPhone a 3GS model to the S3 and it can do anything that my iphone did and may things it does better. Like the last poster stated the iPhone is just too small plus this thing is just way faster than my iPhone ever dreamed of being.

richard371 said:
First of all let me give you a little background about myself. I am the mobile admin for a major software company in Silicon valley. I have access to any phone I feel that is worth testing so I can be completely unbiased. Here are the pros and cons of the S3 which I am now testing:
Pros:
1. Screen is big and very nice. It is pentile but I can barely tell. The iPhone 4s is a bit sharper but the s3 just looks better. Blacks are black. and they toned down the punchiness of the OMLED
2. The phone is thin and sexy. I got the casemate barley there which gives the phone more grip and fits like a glove.
Cons:
1. It gets warm with use.
2. When using auto brightness the avg brightness is to week. If it were bumped up about 25% it would be perfect or even better if you could adjust the avg brightness like you can with the iPhone it would be perfect.
2. Im in the bay area and do not get a solid LTE signal with ATT like I do on the iPad. Most of the times its on 4G 5 bars when my iPad has LTE. When it is in LTE I get the usual 20-40mbps which is great.
3. Android OS is just not as polished and solid as iOS. Yes it has more capabilities but it just doesn't work as well for me.
4. it was charged to 100 percent at midnight so I unplugged it and went to bed. Woke up at 7 am and it was at %50. I looked at the battery menu and didn't see anything out of the norm. Yes its possible I left some app running in the back ground but I should not have to worry about that. Apple got it right why can't google? If I ever forget to plug it in then it will most likely die in the middle of the night and I may miss an important work call. The iPhone can be at %20 and if I forget to charge it, it will be at %15 in the am.
Overall the perceived build quality doesn't compare to the iPhone 4s but its not bad with the gorilla glass 2 screen and Casemate barely there. Even though the 4S feels more solid Id feel safer dropping the S3 then the 4s since the 4S has more glass. Im really hoping to make this my primary phone but its no where near the 4S in terms of usefull functionality. Hardware wise its light years ahead. With the 4S i use it as a tool. With the S3 i use at so I can look at it and go ooooh ahhhh. I keep picking it up so I can run my finger across the awesome OMLED screen to hear the water and look at my background pic which is the dandy lion. Now if I could just blow on it
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Thank you for taking the time to write your review. Even though I don't see eye to eye with everything you said I do appreciate the time you took to write it! C:

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Thank you for taking the time to write your review. Even though I don't see eye to eye with everything you said I do appreciate the time you took to write it! C:
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Yes I do too, but he does seem a bit trollish since he has answered off haned comments, but fails to answer a question 2 people have asked already. " What can the iPhone do that the GS3 can't?"

Im not downing the s3 at all. On the contrary i think its a great phone and better then the iphone 4 in many ways and I have pretty much decided to make it my primary phone. I was just being honest about a few things I found that I do not like but its my opinion.
in my opinion Apple's iOS may not have the flexibility and features of Android but it is rock solid and does what it does best. Now with my ipad 3 and the S3 I have the best of both worlds. The S3 is an amazing phone but I stand by my review from my personal experience.
Is that clear to you curtiswalker29?
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Is that clear enough with ya?
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I find it hard to believe that you are un bias, you seem to be very much ingrained inn the ios camp. Which is to bad because I was expecting an gives review. That being said, I disagree with you on a few points.
First off, the last 4 nights I have had Nino more than 6% battery drain, most nights have been about 5 or 4. So 50 is hard to believe unless you had to screen on all night with apps running.
Second, I have an iPhone 4 and compared my sgs3 with a 4s and hands down the sgs3 was know responsive, more fluid, and multi tasking was un comparable. I returned an app a day later and was at the exact same place doing the same action as if I never left.
All actions performed faster on the sgs3.
Maps and GPS lock quicker and load faster.
S voice actual understands what I say 90% of the time vs 50% with siri.
I use to be a hardcore ios guy, always pcs though, and I couldn't imagined going back to such a stifling os like ios.
I to am curious at what you believe runs better on ios vs android.
The only thing ios has that android doesn't is consistency among hardware which equals an overall smoother software experience due to the lack of fragmentation. But is rather have choices and freedom in my software and hardware than be pigeon held to what Apple believes I want.
The screen on the 4 s is nice, but ios a screen that small it is wasted.
Additionally, I hate even calling ios an operating system, it's nothing more than a glorified app launcher. Up until recently it lacked all customizability, and even now are so far behind android in terms of os function that they are going to have to make significant changes to even the playing field. Android simply creates a feature rich os, leaving ios seeming stale and UN bending.
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I am sure with a little bit of time getting to know the ends and outs of the new operating sytem and tricks that you will like it just as much. I think it's a matter of what you get used too IMO.
Did you know that it can do Visual Voicemail too? I installed the app from the market and it works well. Just had a heck of a time getting AT&T to provision the service right, but that's not the phone's fault.

Well I'd say that was a pretty unbiased review so thank you. Some people will feel otherwise, but this is a GSIII forum so most people here are obviously going to be pretty biased towards THEIR own phone lol.
I have tweaked and played with the whole spectrum of iOS devices and android devices. I have a Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, and an iPad3 (and a GSIII and GSII ) so I'm pretty unbiased as well.
IMHO, this phone is first that really gives the iPhone4s and iOS a run for its money. Out of the box there's no question that iOS and the iPhone4 are more polished. The iPhone4S feels great in your hand and iOS is very intuitive especially for people who have little to know interest in 'tweaking' things.
But the screen is far too small, the glass is VERY prone to breaking if dropped, and I don't like to be looked into iOS's ecosystem.
I used an iPhone4 while I waited for my GSIII to arrive and all in all it wasn't that bad. At this point in time I think virtually everything you can do on one platform, you can do on the other. All just personal preference I guess.
But I will say apple needs to really have some groundbreaking stuff for the iPhone5 to keep up!

Thanks for the write up but I to would like to know what the iphone can do that the sgs3 cannot?
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Can some one tell me why they think ios is more intuitive? How so? Android operates far mode naturally, with gesture control, motion activation, combination actions like reject call to text... android is far more seamless to operate and navigate from home to app to app etc... the only reason why I believe people think ios is more intuitive is, because it has been around so long and has changed very little, people are confusing intuitive with familiar... that's just my take on it.
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Can some one tell me why they think ios is more intuitive? How so? Android operates far mode naturally, with gesture control, motion activation, combination actions like reject call to text... android is far more seamless to operate and navigate from home to app to app etc... the only reason why I believe people think ios is more intuitive is, because it has been around so long and has changed very little, people are confusing intuitive with familiar... that's just my take on it.
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agree, it's muscle memory. I've used android so much that I stumble using an iphone and many things to me seem counter intuitive. it doesn't mean the system is bad, it just means my experience gives me a different way of doing things. another example of this is a study that was done on IQ tests. When they asked a bunch of kids from chicago and puerto rico to give an example of umbrella use, the kids from chicago said the obvious, for rain. the puerto rican kids stated that it was for sunny days, giving completely different answers and uses. So each group gave answers that spoke to their personal experiences.
so to go back to the point at hand, the whole android vs ios thing is stupid because it all depends on your perspective. how a ui feels, if it's intuitive or smooth, if a phone feels sturdy or not, these are subjective feelings that are too dependent on things that build up to that. they are also dependent on your own viewpoint of smartphones. if a smartphone is in the same category as a toaster to you then ios is great, but if a smartphone is an artifact that increases the capacities of the human senses, then android will probably be your bet.

Lol at OMLED. It sounds like omelet. Maybe I can make an omelet when playing a game and charging at the same time.
Yeah if you weren't aware, XDA is as anti-Apple as it gets. Don't expect reasonable replies. The cult of Android is far worse than the cult of STeve Jobs. I think AndroidCentral is a little bit better. Not by much.
iOS is way simpler and predictable. The answer is really that simple. An OS can install apps and programs. That's it. Customization is not a requirement. Look at Windows Phone. Having a single button and apps already there on the screen makes a big difference. The extra layers that Android adds with homescreens and app drawers and capacitive buttons and secret menus and randomly holding things to see if functions pop up. Ugh. Not as intuitive. The back button closes the app but the home button doesn't? How about just keep a stranglehold on memory and background services so battery life is always good no matter what. The idea is so novel.
The next Android version should be called Sour Patch Kid. SPK

thats like saying you know it makes so much sense, it's common logic, why can't you see my logic whats wrong with you -_-

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Lol at OMLED. It sounds like omelet. Maybe I can make an omelet when playing a game and charging at the same time.
Yeah if you weren't aware, XDA is as anti-Apple as it gets. Don't expect reasonable replies. The cult of Android is far worse than the cult of STeve Jobs. I think AndroidCentral is a little bit better. Not by much.
iOS is way simpler and predictable. The answer is really that simple. An OS can install apps and programs. That's it. Customization is not a requirement. Look at Windows Phone. Having a single button and apps already there on the screen makes a big difference. The extra layers that Android adds with homescreens and app drawers and capacitive buttons and secret menus and randomly holding things to see if functions pop up. Ugh. Not as intuitive. The back button closes the app but the home button doesn't? How about just keep a stranglehold on memory and background services so battery life is always good no matter what. The idea is so novel.
The next Android version should be called Sour Patch Kid. SPK
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Actually this post shows that you know nothing of android.
First off, backing doesnt close programs unless a) you specify it to by selecting (kill app on longpress) or b) if the app prompts you to do so.
Secondly, you obviously have been brain washed to think that an app launcher is the same thing as an os. (And yes WM is in the same category as ios) take a look at any pc/Mac based os, you are provided with a user defined workspace, within this workspace you can control, launch, schedule and manipulate software and data through out the system. All a dedicated app launcher does Is to organize each individual program for access and deployment... that's all ios really is.
Long pressing and gestures are all part pour the process that makes these devices more intuitive... that's what intuitive means, taking tasks and making them more seamless and natural... this is of course based on perception. But considering that I have spent atleast twice as much time on ios than android my perception is well rounded. I still have an iPhone 4 I use it as a music player for my kids. And occasionally play with it and everything seemingly takes more steps.
now I know you are a troll, I've seen you in many other threads trying to reassure and convince yourself that ios is in some way superior, that must be a constant struggle.
Admittedly, ios has its benefits, but everyday android advances while ios stays stagnant, they as just now implementing features that android has had for two years. I home they step up their game and make android work for their inevitable win. I guess we will see what the iPhone 5 will bring, but if it's just a 4" 4s then they will practically give their customers to android. It's only a Matter of time before the faithful Iphone users see that the others are passing them up. That's what happened to me, I use to argue to no end with my friends on android but eventually got so board with ios that I bought an infuse to replace my 4 and have since seen what these devices can really do when allowed the freedom to do so.
But continue to live in your house of mirrors, you'll be here sooner or later.
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Yeah punk... Lol
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My 1st smartphone was when the iPhone 1st came out. Since my 1st android device (Droid/Milestone), I was converted and became an iPhone hater(especially after I got the Nexus One). But you gotta admit, the iPhone can hold its charge better than any Android. With that I have to place the blame on the OS. But who knows??? If iOS implemented widgets on the homescreen it might b a different story. OTHER THAN Better BATTERY management, there isn't anything that the iPhone can do that my Android can't. It's the iPhone that CAN'T do a lot of what Android phones can.