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My android progression was
G1->Behold 2->G1->Nexus One
That behold 2 had great hardware and just god-awful software. Touchwiz blows, we all know it.
Priority One- Get this phone to stock. ASAP.
Yes I agree and using Odin flasher sucks. I'm hoping for better development here on xda.
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Touch wiz 3.0 is looking great. Its getting very good reviews. I don't have any experience with earlier versions though.
Been big fan off sense long time, and last samsung i did not like the Touchwiz, but now on Sgs with 3.0 i like it quite alot, and was fast as hell in begining but have slow down a litle bit now after a week use with more apps and stuff. But other then that it looks very nice and working great. With a task killer it helps speed it upp tho
Sounds like a bunch of baseless garbage. TouchWiz 3.0 looks extremely nice.
Again, ths isnt touchwiz 2, its touchwiz 3. Touchwiz 3 is fine and so far I havent seen one person or review who have said they dont like it, not one.
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Again, ths isnt touchwiz 2, its touchwiz 3. Touchwiz 3 is fine and so far I havent seen one person or review who have said they dont like it, not one.
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I think it's fine! the app menu is very good. The only problem are the lack of a few widgets compared to sense. But they can be produced or downloaded from the market.
I'll give it a shot I guess. Someone's porting it to the Nexus, so I'll try it there. Obviously we need at least 2.2 though.
I guess I just don't trust Samsung after the Behold 2 debacle.
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I'll give it a shot I guess. Someone's porting it to the Nexus, so I'll try it there. Obviously we need at least 2.2 though.
I guess I just don't trust Samsung after the Behold 2 debacle.
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I'm loving touchwiz 3, (coming from sense) I prefer touchwiz 3
this looks nice
youtube.com/watch?v=xAqZ5Hk96QY&feature=player_embedded
I am a HUGE fan of TouchWiz 3.0! TouchWiz sucked really bad on my i8910, but I gave touchwiz a try on the SGS and it's a great introduction to Android.
It basically marries some of the good features of the iphone with Android. I like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=xAqZ5Hk96QY&feature=player_embedded
LOOKS BAD ASS! best UI ive seen on any android phone.
People are so quick to bash Touchwiz 3.0 without even knowing what it is.
Its a completely different beast from Touchwiz 2.0.
Id take it over Sense UI, ive had Sense for over a hero on my HTC Hero.
That look awesome, i wonder where is this build came from.
Maybe some one could get hold so we can try it too.
Its a Froyo and doesn't look like a same UI we are using now on Éclair.
Yeah they somehow got the samsung widgets to work, with launcherpro, it looks fantastic though, and from the video, galaxy is handling it like a champ. that GPU does wonders for the live wallpaper.
plus im a big music head, Samsungs music player is far superior to any other music player available on android.
My bad i thought its a Froyo
Id also love to know how he is running a launcher over touchwiz....looks awesome.
you just download launcherpro off the market place....
people are all stressing about this touchwiz 3.0 and saying they dont want the galaxy because of the touchwiz....
you can easily replace it....i dunno what the big deal is about it.
Plus touchwiz adds a lotta other cool features besides the home.
but i heard running a launcher stops touchwiz from running? or was i mis informed?
Can xda developers port good Samsung Galaxy S apps to Nexus S? For example Camera, Keyboard, Voice Recorder, AllShare, Messaging? Is it possible to have binary compatibility and simply move .apk? I believe this is the same architecture, very similar hardware or am I wrong?
The hardware is almost the same, but the problem is in the 2.3 OS. Ports have already been made for the keyboard and the launcher. Look it up on the Samsung Galaxy S forums.
Edit: I've misread what you wrote. I think it's possible. Maybe it will work if you simply extract apk from app folder on sam gal s, and push it to nexus, or install.
Some of the apps you mentioned depend on the TouchWiz framework that we all hate. With no TW, the apps may not work on a Nexus S.
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Some of the apps you mentioned depend on the TouchWiz framework that we all hate. With no TW, the apps may not work on a Nexus S.
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Umm speak for yourself. I have an Epic and Nexus S and my Epic with 2.1 and TW was smokin out of the box. Now that it has Froyo on it the phone purrs. TW is like modified AOSP where all my TW apps have slight enhancements. It never lags and is not a resource hog like Sense.
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Can xda developers port good Samsung Galaxy S apps to Nexus S? For example Camera, Keyboard, Voice Recorder, AllShare, Messaging? Is it possible to have binary compatibility and simply move .apk? I believe this is the same architecture, very similar hardware or am I wrong?
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+1 for the Camera app. Pictures / Videos are much better quality, imo. Oh, and the video player + codecs too!
em.....Nexus S owners want some TW love......
wanting touchwiz makes me scratch my head.
wanting sense makes me scratch my head.
heh.
to each his own, i guess. just really seems like a lot of you are wanting to take steps BACK. just my opinion.
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wanting touchwiz makes me scratch my head.
wanting sense makes me scratch my head.
heh.
to each his own, i guess. just really seems like a lot of you are wanting to take steps BACK. just my opinion.
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extra features usually means step forward not back......
Having more options is a step forward.
Slowing down your device considerably is not.
There's aren't steps forward... true nexus fans got This phone, to keep it simply Google, not tainted with touchwiz, sense or moto blur. we love untouched untainted Google software, the way the company wanted it to be, and for a reason. Its faster!! U want ur junky touchwiz, then go back to a real Samsung device. Not a Google phone.
No offence, but these comments are coming from Samsung fans, that think the nexus s is the next galaxy phone. Its not!! Welcome to the real world of androind, unmolested by other companies so called tweaks to the system..
Just the two cents from a real nexus, Google, android enthusiast!!
And HTC, but we'll keep the best phone company out of this discussion lolol
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extra features usually means step forward not back......
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Adding extra, worthless BLOAT to the pure Android experience of the Nexus is a huge step back. Those terrible UI skins cripple the open-source nature of Android and do nothing but provide problems in exchange for pointless "eye candy."
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why don't you just buy a galaxy s??
I hate to bump just an incredibly OLD thread, but this is not going a step back, this is a step forward, customization is Android, just because Android is pure doesn't mean it's going to be better in the sense that it offers functionality. Example? TouchWiz offers a notification widget for the music player, also a lockscreen music widget. Want another example? Sense has an email widget, a much deeper integration with Facebook, Flickr, and Twitter. Still not convinced? Look at Motoblur, while some see it as ugly, a lot of people find that the deep deep integration with social networking is a great experience. It's all about features, and that is something Android has lacked since the 2.3.3 update, with Facebook integration being blown out for a reason no one really understands.
Anyone have a way to get the Samsung Keypad on the Nexus S?
I really don't get people who are talking about bloatware on rooted phone. You can uninstall every single system app you want. Touchwiz is definitely an improvement over stock android: hardware accelerated browser (the browser on nexus S is unusable for me, everytime it loads an image or some flash content it lags like hell, I have to use opera mobile for a smooth browsing experience), it has video codecs, it has a great camera app, a great messaging app and a good keyboard. Removing the touchwiz launcher is, again, very easy. What? You're saying you can't use ADW or launcher pro on it or wtf?
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Anyone have a way to get the Samsung Keypad on the Nexus S?
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Instal swype beta
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With all of the free and paid launchers out their would you prefer the Samsung Epic come with or without Touchwiz framework.
Personally dont care for the launcher but I like the little things like the task manager which is light weight and the quick panel toggles and little things like that. They're not a deal breaker for me but they're nice to have. Also some of the apps tied around TW are really nice like the camara, video player and music app. Those actually might be the most important to me anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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I like the fact when you have a AOSP Rom you can have more custom Roms and Kernals. AOSP rom can use the camera, music player and video player too. Plus you don't have to wait for Samsung to come out with the source code for updates. Since Samsung knows it own drivers they can make a pure google phone with full functionality. But hey if touchwiz is important to you then vote on it. Touch wiz has some benefits too.
I like the functionality tw adds(task manager, music controls in various places, codec support, etc), but I wish it was implemented better.
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Doesn't the TW framework add cpu optimization and stuff? you mean the Touch Wiz launcher?
Realistically speaking I think they should load it up with TW, but give users an easy way to go ASOP if they choose. Personally the TouchWiz launcher is great for the average individual, its simple and clean ui.
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Doesn't the TW framework add cpu optimization and stuff? you mean the Touch Wiz launcher?
Realistically speaking I think they should load it up with TW, but give users an easy way to go ASOP if they choose. Personally the TouchWiz launcher is great for the average individual, its simple and clean ui.
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I think they should have made the drivers independent of Touchwiz. Our developers have to rewrite all the drivers just so we can get an AOSP rom to work, I think this is non-sense. It also makes the samsung epic the last to get updates. On one hand we like the cpu optimization but one the other hand we complain when the when it takes 3 to 4 months later to get updates. We can have it both ways. If you like the cpu optimization then you should expect the updates to take longer you should also expect incompatibly as well.
only thing i like about tw is the camera.. which i can get over, i dislike anything that isnt pure google....i miss my OG droid..
I miss one thing about touchwiz, and that's dragging my finger across a text convo and automaticly calling them. The Nexus S is the finest phone I've ever owned, I will never buy another phone that isn't 100 percent Google.
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I don't think I can live without the adjustable brightness bar at the top.
I'm looking forward to official gb release to have tw again. I actually find myself missing it.
I just want a "new and improved EPIC"
I'd prefer it without TW. I think it looks gawdy.
Lack of customization, and it not being a "sense-quality" launcher, I'll stick to Launcher Pro until I find something better. ADW, GoLauncher, arc launcher, even dell stage I've tried, launcher pro beats everything.
Another vote for launcher pro. Best launcher out there.
- Ron
Are the widgets in the pulldown notification area part of TouchWiz? If so, I'd prefer touchwiz.
Don't really care what they put on. I'll ****-can it immediately for go launcher
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Tw4 ftw
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We aren't talking about launchers people...we're talking about the true touchwiz, the deep down stuff that adds functionality to the device.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Guys think about it, it would be a new phone meaning it would come with TW4, and I don't know about you guys but it looks pretty sexy.
I'm using the TW4 launcher and icons and must say it's looking great.
And I'm sure the rest of TW4 on the SGS2 is amazing.
You've all seen the leaked images of the Within, right?
Oh the excitement.
I will never buy another phone with TouchWiz unless it already has official CM on it. Same goes for all other crappy UIs. Its either CM7+ or a Nexus from here on out.
Coming from HTC Desire & HTC Desire HD to Samsung Galaxy S 2, there is only one think i realize. Whatever HTC lacks in hardware, it more than makes up for it in software. HTC Sync works flawlessly. You want to convert into usb? no problem. Integration with contacts? works out of the box. I am stuck here for at least 2 hrs trying to make my new mobile to sync with Kies, with no luck. Before it turned into a USB, now not even that. (and yes i know about the debugging option). Same with software, linking is not as efficient, TW not as customizable, resulting in downloading 3rd party apps to do the things that you took for granted with HTC. So far, excluding hardware, I am really disappointed with my new purchase :/
I also came across from a Desire - HTC Sync was a pile of crap, just like Kies when it's not working. When Kies works, it's waay better, not that I bother using that either - everything just syncs to my Google account(s).
As for Sense vs TW, I admit the contacts linking/integration is far better in Sense, but as for one being more "customisable" than the other, nonsense - neither interface is particularly customisable, other than widgets, which I think you're referring to. Sense had some nice ones included, but TW has too. The only one I miss from Sense is the combined clock/weather one, but you can get something which looks almost as good using the digital clock and Accuweather widgets.
That's what I first though when I exchanged my desire for a galaxy s about a year ago. You'll get used to and when you do, you will start to appreciate how good the galaxy s2 is in the other areas.
I did miss sence after switching but now I don't look back especially with the super amoled screen!
i had a desire and desire z
hate sense
i love the new touchwiz. not even using go launcher any more
Always try to find a way to sync over a google services. nothing is so easy an comfortable than syncing with google on an android.
i just love how it shows all my podcasts when i download google listen and i'm good to go. i know its simple, but it just works
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To me Tw is the lightest skins..it's almost stock but better.
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tw gives closest to stock android experience. Thank god samsung don't use anything like sense or blur.
Sense is just too heavy for me.
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i honestly hate sense ui , its a ram hog , its a battery drainer , its more complex then it needs to be and to be honest for me it is just a waste of time
give me a plain android o/s or touchwiz anyday
i actually prefer go launcher to any of them but sense ui for me is just annoying overkill with a few nice weather animations
if i wanted sense ui i would have bought the sensastion but i wanted a phone that was based on power not one based on a pretty o/s that is a resource hog
why not stop neing disapointed and just sell the sgs2 and buy a sensation?? job done you can then be a happy person again
I love TW 4 and I use the stock launcher as well ...however it would be awesome to see Sense on this beautiful display - The eyecandy that Sense has is great
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I had sense on my Nexus One and while I tried it for a while I simply found it to be too heavily modded. Obviously it works for some but TW has been a pleasant, more stock experience so far (Coming from launcher pro). If I ever go back to HTC I'll be making sure an AOSP based rom is available before hand
Sense is something like UI overhaul of whole android. You may like it, but it is not android experience at all (except you can launch android apps).
TW is also too heavy for me, but except weird mail app it leaves android logic in place.
Black fact is, that you will have hard times to find anyone calling himself a "touchwiz hater", but you can definitely find a lot of Sense haters (take a look on any HTC related forum).
This makes your argumentation problematic and thereby very subjective, but I understand that not everyone have same feeling about HTC -> Sammy migration as me.
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Because we are on android, you can try other UI called MIUI. I found it really nice and polished. There are some features I don't like, but its worth try IMO.
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i honestly hate sense ui , its a ram hog , its a battery drainer , its more complex then it needs to be and to be honest for me it is just a waste of time
give me a plain android o/s or touchwiz anyday
i actually prefer go launcher to any of them but sense ui for me is just annoying overkill with a few nice weather animations
if i wanted sense ui i would have bought the sensastion but i wanted a phone that was based on power not one based on a pretty o/s that is a resource hog
why not stop neing disapointed and just sell the sgs2 and buy a sensation?? job done you can then be a happy person again
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+1 i don't necessarily hate HTC Sense but definitely better off without it and everything you've said is spot on.
OP said himself it's eye candy and already added battery drain, RAM hogger by other user.
Meaningless thread IMO.
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Coming from HTC Desire & HTC Desire HD to Samsung Galaxy S 2, there is only one think i realize. Whatever HTC lacks in hardware, it more than makes up for it in software. HTC Sync works flawlessly. You want to convert into usb? no problem. Integration with contacts? works out of the box. I am stuck here for at least 2 hrs trying to make my new mobile to sync with Kies, with no luck. Before it turned into a USB, now not even that. (and yes i know about the debugging option). Same with software, linking is not as efficient, TW not as customizable, resulting in downloading 3rd party apps to do the things that you took for granted with HTC. So far, excluding hardware, I am really disappointed with my new purchase :/
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Some devs are working on a sense but there is very little progress yet but I am with you coming from a Desire running a Sense 2.1-3.0 mix, TW is quite a disappointment
I always had an HTC before my GS2, and I definitely prefer TouchWiz.
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Ill b happy with sense 2.1. Not 3. I don't care what sensation owners tell you, rooted or not, the sensation lags worse than my aging og droid.
Meh... TW4 is okay. Pretty standard rom. Not too heavily modified like Sense, but not too bare like stock, just in the middle. Firstly,I love Sense's eye candy . I'm not a big fan of TW4. Using MIUI and that was the best thing I've ever done.
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Ill b happy with sense 2.1. Not 3. I don't care what sensation owners tell you, rooted or not, the sensation lags worse than my aging og droid.
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Sensation may lag, but the evo 3D is speed demon. I love sense so much, its so clean and useful for me. I love the notification bar layout, the polished widgets, the awesome text selection quick look up utility,and just how everything is so intergrated.
I had the epic 4g galaxy S phone and i hated it. Touchwiz on it was absolutely awful for me. Such an ugly ui on froyo.
Now with that said,i am still going to be switching to sprints version of the galaxy s2 come September 16th in hopes that touchwiz has improved since its last iteration.
Sense and TouchWiz both are very nice imho. Sense is SO integrated and clean and a perfected shot at a well made Android experience. TouchWiz is also nice, and I love TW 4.0. I have the launcher for whenever I feel like having a TouchWiz... touch... (lol) to my phone. Sense's widgets, themed overlay, etc., make it a very good experience. But WAY too heavy and cumbersome.
And whoever said Sensations lag... you must be extremely dense. Both the Sensation and EVO 3D are so blazing fast it's unbelievable. And on AOSP ROMs? I hit 4500 on quad easy. Sense is what makes the phone lag, not the phone itself.
Ok so i always hear a lot of people saying how they dislike touchwiz and that stock android is the best blah blah blah... So I was wondering, would you guys have preferred a note 2 with stock android and no S-pen or do you love it with touchwiz? I'm asking because I love touchwiz, I think its the best skin out there and it is a big reason why the note 2 is so awesome. But would you have preferred a note 2 with the same super AMOLED screen, same 3100mah battery but no spen, no touchwiz ( bye bye multi-window, spen features.....) running stock android?
Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
I've been running cm based roms since the first galaxy s (galaxy s, galaxy s2 note 1, galaxy s3, galaxy note 2), however, I made the switch back to touch wiz on my note today. Reasoning: I just feel it's more useful than a cm based rom on this device, and it's not as bad it use to be (believe me). So my vote goes to touch wiz ATM. Will I ever switch back to a cm based rom? Of course, but it's not a must have for me, for the first time.
*these are my options, I'm not basing anyone, or anything, and if you feel as if I insulted you...---- off (;*
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I hate TW, but CM is such unstable because of Sammy not releasing sources..
So I'm using TW.
I'm now waiting for MIUI V5, as its 100% stable and doesn't have TW look. (only features and base)
I don't hate Touchwiz but I'm using Nova Launcher Prime. And you don't lose very much with using a third party launcher. I can still use popup note, s-pen, multi window etc. My toggles in notification bar are still the same. I don't know what people are losing with using a third party launcher. It only adds to the phone.
TW is a framework, not just a launcher
Between those two, TW any day, any time. Stock Android is nothing but a hype.
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cm=fast+buggy (for now)
tw=a bit slow+stable
so own choice
for me as long as I can make call and play game, it doenst matter
I like TouchWiz(stock rom) as it's stable and quite fast. At the moment, CM based ROMs are too unstable.
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Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
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Touchwiz isn't just the launcher for Christ's sake. This is why Touchwiz gets all this hate, people not realising this simple point. Yes, the Touchwiz LAUNCHER is crappy and a lot of people including myself use one from the store, but Touchwiz itself with all its features is by far better than the featureless stock android (CM ect..)
Note 2 is my first Android device that I'm using completely stock...
I don't know why. ... I had many other android phones and tablets and all of them were flashed custon roms and kernels only couple of hours after purchase. ..
I love my note 2!
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher. Its awesome and highly customisable with air view works in it and holo look. Touchwiz is not that customizable however its good for the ppl who wants simple , fast and easy UI.
I recommend using a launcher mainly with NOTE 2 use Nova and Apex.
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Stock android all the way. Its indeed better than touchwhiz.
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
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All phones I've had previously I've always ran CM. Once I got the Note 2 didn't find it necessary. Phone runs great on TW and has great features that I actually use at work and home life. And the battery is just perfect.
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Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks.
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What?!
I don't even know where to begin...
No. I will exercise restraint. IMO, multiwindow is and can be very helpful. Sure, it's much more useful on 10.1-inch screen, but that doesn't make it less useful on Note2 and its 5.5-inch screen. It's multitasking heaven IMO.
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Both are good...
Friends,
We are on Android, the most powerful OS currently on market (I think everybody in XDA will agree to this). Then why do you people worry. You can always switch back and forth between them.
You have Titanium Backup if you are rooted and even you have Carbon for unrooted device. So better give it a try for all the roms available. All of them are great. And i personally love CM 10.1 with all its additional customization features.
So i used to switch back and forth between them
And i also heard that some devs have started working on dual booting, but i am not sure about the recent updates on it.
I love both, and at the same time, yes, Stock on Note II is excellent.
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
No warez allowed here. Reported.
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@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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Your poll leaves out another option and that is keep most of what it TouchWiz but add customization by using Nova.
I think by getting rid of touchwiz you're losing too much functionality with the phone. I've tried a few different roms and launchers. From completely different cm10.1 to just nova launcher and I always come back to touchwiz... There is no lag, from what I can tell, on touchwiz. Everything works the way it should. It's not worth it to lose the features that samsung added to this phone. If I wanted to do that I could have kept my note 1 running cm9.
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@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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As you are well aware, Blackmarket Alpha is a warez site. Your editing skills are marvellous. Idiot.
AOKP (or CM, or AOSPA..) all the way. Retains the functionality of the S-Pen and only loses multiwindow, which I don't find useful anyway. Also, it allows me to use the latest version of Android (4.2.2) which has a useful account manager that lets my friends use a completely separate account from me.
I don't necessarily dislike Touchwiz but it's not as aesthetically pleasing, and I have a hard time understanding why it's about 500MB heavier than AOSP.