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TouchWiz > Vanilla Android

Okay, the title is not totally true - but I had to name this post something to get your attention.
The point of this post is to inquire about why so many people hate on TouchWiz. I sold my Vibrant and moved to Nexus S for a various of reasons but I find myself missing quite a few aspects of TouchWiz.
For example, how Samsung put the bluetooth/GPS/silence/WiFi buttons in the pull down menu - brilliant use of otherwise empty space. How on the dialpad you could easily call someone without having to access contacts by simply typing their name. How the SMS app had great alternating text/color chat (yes I know handsent app, etc. but I am talking about stock). (And of course, I like TouchWiz launcher over Vanilla launcher but that is more of a personal preference than a superior feature.)
I am sure there are advantages Vanilla has over TouchWiz but after using both I hardly see why TouchWiz gets so much hate.
Okay I am back to trolling Nexus S forums.

Not a big fan of the iphone-esque square icons so I use launcherpro, but otherwise, it's great.

I like TW and ADW.
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TW + launcher pro is >>>> all
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Also there is great syncing between contacts in MMS app as well.
I type the company name of some contact and name appears in messaging app.

DarkAgent said:
Okay, the title is not totally true - but I had to name this post something to get your attention.
The point of this post is to inquire about why so many people hate on TouchWiz. I sold my Vibrant and moved to Nexus S for a various of reasons but I find myself missing quite a few aspects of TouchWiz.
For example, how Samsung put the bluetooth/GPS/silence/WiFi buttons in the pull down menu - brilliant use of otherwise empty space. How on the dialpad you could easily call someone without having to access contacts by simply typing their name. How the SMS app had great alternating text/color chat (yes I know handsent app, etc. but I am talking about stock). (And of course, I like TouchWiz launcher over Vanilla launcher but that is more of a personal preference than a superior feature.)
I am sure there are advantages Vanilla has over TouchWiz but after using both I hardly see why TouchWiz gets so much hate.
Okay I am back to trolling Nexus S forums.
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Vanilla has no advantages. Touchwiz just adds extra features and functions on top of Vanilla. I personally dont like the launcher and running Launcher Pro Plus with Gingerbread theme. The people that say TW is not good, simply are too stupid to understand what Touchwiz is
Its hard to go back to Vannilla.........

I like the notification toggles and the full codec support (which isn't really TW, just Samsung). I hate the dialer / contacts changes, really miss old-school CM-modified contacts/dialer app. Launcher & messaging just don't matter one way or another because they're so easily replaced by superior apps.

Saiboogu said:
I like the notification toggles and the full codec support (which isn't really TW, just Samsung). I hate the dialer / contacts changes, really miss old-school CM-modified contacts/dialer app. Launcher & messaging just don't matter one way or another because they're so easily replaced by superior apps.
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I actually prefer TW dialer vs stock.
Sense is another overlay. even better then Touchwiz. I heard MotoBlur sucks.

Yeah the only thing I hate about Twiz is the launcher. The other enhancements are great.
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TouchWiz is good. It's just ill-optimized.
Stock Android does not look good.

N8ter said:
TouchWiz is good. It's just ill-optimized.
Stock Android does not look good.
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Gingerbread changes all that Vanilla android (pre 2.3) in my opinion looks fine. I prefer features than it looking pretty.

The launcher is the only part i dont like.
Everything else is awsome, I looked it over sense because sense feels heavy.
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zephiK said:
Gingerbread changes all that Vanilla android (pre 2.3) in my opinion looks fine. I prefer features than it looking pretty.
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TouchWiz adds features to Android. It doesn't take anything away, so that part of you statement (the last sentence) makes zero (0) sense. Some things like Mobile AP were huge advances over what Stock Android had to offer, not to mention the fact that Stock Android Widgets are simply terrible as well (which is part of HTC Sense's allure - it has Awesome widgets), as well as its Social Network integration.
I think you should think of these things more as a consumer than a tinkerer. They do outnumber "us" and they have expectations and requirements that the minority takes for granted.
Also, Gingerbread doesn't change anything. You can go use a Nexus S and see. It changes very little. A few cosmetic changes, and that's it.
You can buy a better keyboard on FroYo or Eclair no problem (or use Skype).
The UI overhauls were pushed back to Honeycomb, and I don't have much faith in Google - who have historically proved they are inept when to comes to UI design. I think they did buy a company that does this kind of work, so maybe they'll suprise me.
Doubt I'll be on Android by the time that's released, though, unless they change the way the phones are updated.

I like the Tw extra features, the look of it not so much. I use it with launcher pro which just gives a your own look, I didn't know how I would like it coming from MT3G LE. But I gotta say that's one of the features holding me back from buying the nexus s.
Vibrant

N8ter said:
TouchWiz adds features to Android. It doesn't take anything away, so that part of you statement (the last sentence) makes zero (0) sense. Some things like Mobile AP were huge advances over what Stock Android had to offer, not to mention the fact that Stock Android Widgets are simply terrible as well (which is part of HTC Sense's allure - it has Awesome widgets), as well as its Social Network integration.
I think you should think of these things more as a consumer than a tinkerer. They do outnumber "us" and they have expectations and requirements that the minority takes for granted.
Also, Gingerbread doesn't change anything. You can go use a Nexus S and see. It changes very little. A few cosmetic changes, and that's it.
You can buy a better keyboard on FroYo or Eclair no problem (or use Skype).
The UI overhauls were pushed back to Honeycomb, and I don't have much faith in Google - who have historically proved they are inept when to comes to UI design. I think they did buy a company that does this kind of work, so maybe they'll suprise me.
Doubt I'll be on Android by the time that's released, though, unless they change the way the phones are updated.
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Google also hired one of the guys who was in charge of WebOS UI design so I think they may have something stellar with Honeycomb.
Back on topic, all the things I hate about TouchWiz are easily replaced by Launcher Pro Plus.
The other TouchWiz additions are pretty functional and add a lot of value.

N8ter said:
TouchWiz adds features to Android. It doesn't take anything away, so that part of you statement (the last sentence) makes zero (0) sense.
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I'm a diehard CM fan form the G1 days, so TW was a bit of culture shock to me. Even ignoring the visual changes, and swapping out the launcher, I was cursing the dialer everytime I went to switch from dialer to contacts, or try to check how long ago I called someone.
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not to mention the fact that Stock Android Widgets are simply terrible as well (which is part of HTC Sense's allure - it has Awesome widgets),
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Stock widgets are functional. Sleek and functional too. Maybe not flashy, but they work. TW widgets? Ugh, don't get me started on that bit of bloat. LauncherPro widgets have them both beat though - better functionality than stock, better look than TW.
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I think you should think of these things more as a consumer than a tinkerer. They do outnumber "us" and they have expectations and requirements that the minority takes for granted.
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Which is why all I ask is they keep the changes modular. Leave stock launcher in, they have more than enough room to spare. Keep core functionality like the dialer standard across the board. Nothing to stop them from doing some "People" app or something like that to house the dialer changes.
The one thing I'll give Samsung, from a power user point of view - notification bar toggles were brilliant. Other than that, I cringe when I boot a new ROM and see stock TWlauncher, or just about every time I fire up the dialer.

Samsung's stock widgets are terrible compared to Moto and HTC's. Even SE and LG has better widgets.
The TW Launcher looks decent but it was rushed together to look like iOS and not much beyond that.
A widget slashed down to 4x1 or 4x2 (Daily Briefing with Just Calendar)taking up an entire home screen is not Sleek or Functional. No Mail, SMS/MMS, Calendar, Media Player widget. Not to mention they all look terrible, especially the Title Bars and bevels around most of them.
TouchWiz gives you less at a glance than Sense and the Droid X UI (which isn't really MotoBlur), so I tend to waste more time finding information on my Vibrant than I did on my HTC device.
If the market was full of good widgets, I guess I wouldn't have this particular problem.
Most of the other changes attributed to TouchWiz aren't necessarily linked to TouchWiz (or rather, can be implemented without being dependent on it).
Media Codecs can be added to Stock Android. DLNA, MobileAP, etc. can all be added to Stock Android.
Also, the inability to edit the shortcuts at the bottom of the screen coupled with the inability to set a decent home screen makes TouchWiz a PITA to use. You're basically forced to used 7 home screens unless you want to have a very odd Home Page setup with uneven scrolling to get from screen to screen.
Another thing I noticed is that icon placement seems to be different than other launchers. GMail unread count is played perfectly in Sense, but in TouchWiz the icon is set way lower than everything else. Motorola implemented unread counts into their Launcher, and I hope everyone else does the same (for Messaging, Email, Gmail, etc.).

Kubernetes said:
Yeah the only thing I hate about Twiz is the launcher. The other enhancements are great.
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/Twerd.
-bZj

[Q] Would you preferred Samsung's new phone come with or without touchwiz

With all of the free and paid launchers out their would you prefer the Samsung Epic come with or without Touchwiz framework.

Personally dont care for the launcher but I like the little things like the task manager which is light weight and the quick panel toggles and little things like that. They're not a deal breaker for me but they're nice to have. Also some of the apps tied around TW are really nice like the camara, video player and music app. Those actually might be the most important to me anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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I like the fact when you have a AOSP Rom you can have more custom Roms and Kernals. AOSP rom can use the camera, music player and video player too. Plus you don't have to wait for Samsung to come out with the source code for updates. Since Samsung knows it own drivers they can make a pure google phone with full functionality. But hey if touchwiz is important to you then vote on it. Touch wiz has some benefits too.

I like the functionality tw adds(task manager, music controls in various places, codec support, etc), but I wish it was implemented better.
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Doesn't the TW framework add cpu optimization and stuff? you mean the Touch Wiz launcher?
Realistically speaking I think they should load it up with TW, but give users an easy way to go ASOP if they choose. Personally the TouchWiz launcher is great for the average individual, its simple and clean ui.

gTen said:
Doesn't the TW framework add cpu optimization and stuff? you mean the Touch Wiz launcher?
Realistically speaking I think they should load it up with TW, but give users an easy way to go ASOP if they choose. Personally the TouchWiz launcher is great for the average individual, its simple and clean ui.
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I think they should have made the drivers independent of Touchwiz. Our developers have to rewrite all the drivers just so we can get an AOSP rom to work, I think this is non-sense. It also makes the samsung epic the last to get updates. On one hand we like the cpu optimization but one the other hand we complain when the when it takes 3 to 4 months later to get updates. We can have it both ways. If you like the cpu optimization then you should expect the updates to take longer you should also expect incompatibly as well.

only thing i like about tw is the camera.. which i can get over, i dislike anything that isnt pure google....i miss my OG droid..

I miss one thing about touchwiz, and that's dragging my finger across a text convo and automaticly calling them. The Nexus S is the finest phone I've ever owned, I will never buy another phone that isn't 100 percent Google.
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I don't think I can live without the adjustable brightness bar at the top.

I'm looking forward to official gb release to have tw again. I actually find myself missing it.

I just want a "new and improved EPIC"

I'd prefer it without TW. I think it looks gawdy.

Lack of customization, and it not being a "sense-quality" launcher, I'll stick to Launcher Pro until I find something better. ADW, GoLauncher, arc launcher, even dell stage I've tried, launcher pro beats everything.

Another vote for launcher pro. Best launcher out there.
- Ron

Are the widgets in the pulldown notification area part of TouchWiz? If so, I'd prefer touchwiz.

Don't really care what they put on. I'll ****-can it immediately for go launcher
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Tw4 ftw
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We aren't talking about launchers people...we're talking about the true touchwiz, the deep down stuff that adds functionality to the device.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

Guys think about it, it would be a new phone meaning it would come with TW4, and I don't know about you guys but it looks pretty sexy.
I'm using the TW4 launcher and icons and must say it's looking great.
And I'm sure the rest of TW4 on the SGS2 is amazing.
You've all seen the leaked images of the Within, right?
Oh the excitement.

I will never buy another phone with TouchWiz unless it already has official CM on it. Same goes for all other crappy UIs. Its either CM7+ or a Nexus from here on out.

[Verdict 10/11/11] MIUI vs Samsung ROMs (Non ASOP ones)

Alright after a week of testing. Heres the rundown.
Stock Features you will miss:
Enhanced Contacts.
Motion Gestures.
HW Accelerated Browser
The Cam. MIUI isnt as good.
Battery life.
MIUI features you will miss if you're hooked:
Firewall
Guard
App lock
Themes
UI. duh.
Elegance.
Overall verdict is wait a bit. MIUI can be better. The MIUI contacts isnt good either.

Oh and Stock Cam vs MIUI Cam.. whats better?

Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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Aldonski said:
Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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Thanks. Got Swype Beta working. Gotta check out TW Cam.

I think he meant touch wizard in TW camera. I would like this camera the hw accerated browser and tv out support in a miui hybrid rom.
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Im using Upnplay instead of allshare.
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There has to be some Pros and Cons in AOSP ROMs over Stock ROMs. Customisations, speedy UI etc are better but on the other hand there are some simple yet impotent things aren't available or buggy! Why would one buy Samsung on first place and then suddenly they want to get rid of Samsung junk? A little bit of iOS, little bit of Android, I hate it anyway.

I have frozen literally everything all the Samsung bloatware that can be frozen, i think ive used Kies like once, it's a crock of sh*t anyway buggy as hell, allshare is a serious battery drainer too, why do people still use this rubbish then complain about serious battery drainage?

I love all MIUI stuff but I dislike the battery draining, camera is not good and video playback is so poor 'cause Hw aceleration is not working... Ignoring that, I prefer a lot this even over the perfect stock rom, 'cause I can personalize everything.

I've had a look and play with miui and cm7 nightly #99 lately.
Still like Samsung's roms better. To me they just seem more polished. Camera, calendar, etc, add jkay mods in there too.
Also find music sounds better for me on Samsung roms. That surprised me.
I pick cm7 over miui by a mile.
I must be missing something about miui because i didnt see anything to make me use it over Samsung or cm7.
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Miui UI is better than stock...
Gotto wait until Miui rom fully functional only can compare i believe.

kyapkk said:
Miui UI is better than stock...
Gotto wait until Miui rom fully functional only can compare i believe.
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Cool ill take another look at it later.
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I am on Samsung rom because of contacts, I have personalized contacts in gmail and on miui only can see icons for the type of numbers of my contacts, in Samsung rom contacts app i can see personalized info about my contacts numbers
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I've tried CM7 and it's pretty nice especially with all of the themes and it is incredibly fast, however I love TouchWiz! Good Widgets, great camera app, smoothest launcher (IMO), and of course the best browser on any Android device.
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So I am still testing it and so far I like it. Gonna reply you all and update the main thread with opinion.
Aldonski said:
Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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I got Swype working. Good points, thanks.
seburn said:
I think he meant touch wizard in TW camera. I would like this camera the hw accerated browser and tv out support in a miui hybrid rom.
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Yeah, couldnt find TW Cam, thanks.
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Im using Upnplay instead of allshare.
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Thanks!
ithehappy said:
There has to be some Pros and Cons in AOSP ROMs over Stock ROMs. Customisations, speedy UI etc are better but on the other hand there are some simple yet impotent things aren't available or buggy! Why would one buy Samsung on first place and then suddenly they want to get rid of Samsung junk? A little bit of iOS, little bit of Android, I hate it anyway.
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Yeah, its a personal preference. Thats the point of this thread. Do we wanna lose functionality for looks?
jonny68 said:
I have frozen literally everything all the Samsung bloatware that can be frozen, i think ive used Kies like once, it's a crock of sh*t anyway buggy as hell, allshare is a serious battery drainer too, why do people still use this rubbish then complain about serious battery drainage?
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I know what you mean Same here.
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I love all MIUI stuff but I dislike the battery draining, camera is not good and video playback is so poor 'cause Hw aceleration is not working... Ignoring that, I prefer a lot this even over the perfect stock rom, 'cause I can personalize everything.
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Elaborate please. You got a point about HW acceleration. Ill look into it. Battery seems fine..
aceofclubs said:
I've had a look and play with miui and cm7 nightly #99 lately.
Still like Samsung's roms better. To me they just seem more polished. Camera, calendar, etc, add jkay mods in there too.
Also find music sounds better for me on Samsung roms. That surprised me.
I pick cm7 over miui by a mile.
I must be missing something about miui because i didnt see anything to make me use it over Samsung or cm7.
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You are missing some neat features. Wait for me to update my OP. Camera sucks. Agree.
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I am on Samsung rom because of contacts, I have personalized contacts in gmail and on miui only can see icons for the type of numbers of my contacts, in Samsung rom contacts app i can see personalized info about my contacts numbers
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Hmm, yeah you cant sort contacts. Good point.
Updating my OP.~
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I've tried CM7 and it's pretty nice especially with all of the themes and it is incredibly fast, however I love TouchWiz! Good Widgets, great camera app, smoothest launcher (IMO), and of course the best browser on any Android device.
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[*]The easy screenshots like iOS.
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About this, in MIUI you just have to press volume down+menu. Pretty easy IMO...
About everything else im with you, but let me add one more con about MIUI: Call recording doenst work. Not the stock app but neither "CallRecorder" app.
Since this is an important feature for me, I hope they manage to fixed it because I really like MIUI.

Every now and then, i fill that urge to try MIUI or Cyanogen, and after a day or two, i am back to Samsung ROMs ...
1.I've been modifying my framework and TW launcher since my i9000 and i have made my personal setup from it
2.Video codecs support, although recently i've found Dice player who looks extremely capable, even more than the default one
3.The small little things, like brightness swipe on status bar, call and message swipe on contacts and some others that doesn't come to mind right now
4.Like someone else stated, i also like the cohesion of the stock ROM
There are some things that always bothered me that Samsung doesn't implement in it's ROMs like percentage battery and BLN. I mean, those are are easy to do, add functionality and they blend well with stock ..., but luckily, this is Android and we can do it ourselves .

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Now that MIUI have officially launched the S2 ROM. I tried it. I used to use the Litening ROM. So far there have been PROS and CONS. Some neat features that I love that I dont wanna go back. But there are some minor things which I can't live without either.
I will be updating this thread with Pro and Cons with you guys support.
Stock ROM features I miss:
The Motion Gestures. In Gallery and on Launcher. I think that was TouchWiz 4.0... right?
Kies and AllShare. I would love to have those two. SGS2 is the only Android device out there with DLNA support and would be a shame to cut it out. --There are alternatives. WifiFile Explorer. And Upnplay.
The easy screenshots like iOS.
Swype support. I sideloaded Swype but looks like I cant switch themes. And the Official Swype installer on MIUI says the resolution isn't supported. Weird. -- It works.
The Camera App. For some weird reason I think the MIUI Cam has flaws. -- Still looking for an alternative. Gonna checkout TW Camera.
And this may be stupid but MIUI doesnt show H+ icons. Just H. (Network icon) -- Think themes can fix this.
MIUI Features I love:
The torch. Pretty neat, you can use it by pressing the Home Button.
The UI and themes. Obvious
The Music App Lyrics
You can lock specific apps. And even hide them.
The Guard feature. Now I can give my phone to anyone w/o worrying bout them snooping.
Status: Back to Stock. MIUI has Battery drain issues.
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There are alot of devices come with DLNA. Atrix for example.
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SilentRazor said:
Now that MIUI have officially launched the S2 ROM. I tried it. I used to use the Litening ROM. So far there have been PROS and CONS. Some neat features that I love that I dont wanna go back. But there are some minor things which I can't live without either.
I will be updating this thread with Pro and Cons with you guys support.
Stock ROM features I miss:
The Motion Gestures. In Gallery and on Launcher. I think that was TouchWiz 4.0... right?
Kies and AllShare. I would love to have those two. SGS2 is the only Android device out there with DLNA support and would be a shame to cut it out. --There are alternatives. WifiFile Explorer. And Upnplay.
The easy screenshots like iOS.
Swype support. I sideloaded Swype but looks like I cant switch themes. And the Official Swype installer on MIUI says the resolution isn't supported. Weird. -- It works.
The Camera App. For some weird reason I think the MIUI Cam has flaws. -- Still looking for an alternative. Gonna checkout TW Camera.
And this may be stupid but MIUI doesnt show H+ icons. Just H. (Network icon) -- Think themes can fix this.
MIUI Features I love:
The torch. Pretty neat, you can use it by pressing the Home Button.
The UI and themes. Obvious
The Music App Lyrics
You can lock specific apps. And even hide them.
The Guard feature. Now I can give my phone to anyone w/o worrying bout them snooping.
Status: Back to Stock. MIUI has Battery drain issues.
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and the only thing stock vs Miui i care is the internet browser in stock rom that comes with hardware accelerated. And also the long press edit for search is imssing in MIUI.

What I can't live without is the to out support via MHL missing from all aosp roms.
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4ltair said:
Every now and then, i fill that urge to try MIUI or Cyanogen, and after a day or two, i am back to Samsung ROMs ...
1.I've been modifying my framework and TW launcher since my i9000 and i have made my personal setup from it
2.Video codecs support, although recently i've found Dice player who looks extremely capable, even more than the default one
3.The small little things, like brightness swipe on status bar, call and message swipe on contacts and some others that doesn't come to mind right now
4.Like someone else stated, i also like the cohesion of the stock ROM
There are some things that always bothered me that Samsung doesn't implement in it's ROMs like percentage battery and BLN. I mean, those are are easy to do, add functionality and they blend well with stock ..., but luckily, this is Android and we can do it ourselves .
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I am with you there. I am back to stock as well and am working on modifying the framework.

pure ICS on galaxy s3?

mod edit: i don't like the touch wiz UI

Lol at least give it a chance before making such a claim. Use it when it comes out then we can say if it is shyte... There are other launchers like apex and etc..

ok good point, i like the concepts though like if you are messaging then put to your ear and it calls, but im talking about the pure visual aspect of it, the icons look like they come from a 2001 nokia colour phone

Icons are always customisable though with root access. I always wonder why people complain about a UI or skin when it can always be changed or removed.
Ive never used any of the previous versions of touchwiz for more than a few minutes at a time on friends' phones but have always preferred it over the other mfr UIs ive tried. Its actually one of the things im looking forward to with this.
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pure aosp will take atleast a month or 2, team hacksung have not yet received enough donations for getting the mobile yet.
and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.

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and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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Indeed.
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Wow wait.. so you've already used the new Touch Wiz? You must have to make a claim like that..
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos

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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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Not the entire UI.. little clips here and there but the fact is NONE of us have it and NONE of us have actually used the new Touchwiz UI. Its not just an icon pack
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.

I always use Go Launcher but will run with TW on the S3 to see how I like

What's wrong with TouchWiz, I would rank it second after TimeScape of Sony (dont like HTC Sense)
And I would give TouchWiz 4.0 the crown

vanilla rocks!
i got a warning for swearing, sorry for swearing

Pure ICS is definitely coming to the S3. Some developers have already said it.

Deliximus said:
i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.

Look aosp is cool, but i am that type of human that i will hardly live with only one type of ui for more than two months, first there are themes and than its big jump (like tw->cm9 or cm9->MIUI....)....so i expect i will try to stick with stock as long as possible and than go out and try some modifications
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Im going to change just one thing , I square icons at the bottom to stock ics, and that's it. Love the drop down toggles. And some of the touchwize apps I'll just not use.
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nbell13 said:
Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
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I couldn't agree more to this!!!
No more carrier delays for me... and I really look forward to PURE AOSP! The closest I ever got to that was with CM 7 resp. CM 9 on my S2 and Nook tablets... and I liked it a lot!
Certainly better than st*pid HTC Sense..!
Can't wait for next week to arrive!!!!!!

why would you use a feature`less software like stock ics? i had galaxy nexus and it was boring ... tw may have bloat but it has nice features ... if you want stock buy google phone if you want sense buy htc ... simple...
plus if you look in the app drawer is ics stock like

It's a matter of preference. look at the stock ICS E-mail, Contacts and messaging apps. a combination of a Beautiful, modern design with the maximum possible functionality. It just looks, feels and works so well, exactly how a modern UI should. Google really hit the ball out of the park with holo.
Now look at the TW ones - they're basically the same FroYo ones used in the previous galaxies - they don't have that stremlined, modern look of stock ICS. They look dated and ancient and do not feel like ICS at all. The messaging app especially. Black background with grey borders and ugly buttons - and yellow and cyan chat bubbles.. seriously samsung?
having said that, TW does have a very, very good launcher - very smooth and very flexible - i have no issues with that. The TW UX launcher is even better in that regard. it's the core apps that piss me off because they look ugly and dated.

[Q] Split-Screen Multitasking port from GNote2

Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.

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Thanks.
I'm kind of disappointed no one seems to be interested in multi window. I think it's a killer feature.

Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.

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Split-Screen apps is not part of touchwiz it is part of the framework (for lack of a better term) system behind touchwiz. There are people on the GNote10 forum here at xda that have rooted and are running different launchers other than touchwiz but they are still getting Split-Screen Multitasking.
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Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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kcls said:
Touchwiz isn't just a launcher, it's really a whole OS based on Android.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher. So they claim the muli-screens are part of the (their name for it) framework. All I know is I wish the multi-screens and floating windows could be part of Android so multi-screens and floating windows could be on all android devices because they really help productivity.

trita629 said:
Whatever happened to Cornerstone?
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop. The touchwiz version doesn't have the same compatibility problems because the app developer must integrate support into his app, instead of it working automatically.
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That's what I thought but there are several people that say they have replaced (what they call the ugly resource hog) TouchWiz and still have the multi-screens by replacing the launcher.
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They are referring to touchscreen as the visible elements (adjustments to notifications, touchwiz launcher, etc.) and in the technical sense. They have only hidden these elements, not removed them (except for the launcher and default apps). The ROM is still based off of a touchwiz ROM, and not AOSP, hence the multi window options remain.

yumcax said:
Hi, if you haven't heard of it the Samsung Note II has a very interesting feature: Split screen multi window support. Here's a video:
As you can see, it works very well and makes multitasking on the device a breeze. The video states that only a few apps are supported which is kind of correct; devs can add support to their apps with a single line of code, or you can flash a new list of supported apps to manually add support for the ones you want.
In my opinion, if this was added to AOSP it could be the killer feature that would set Android apart from iOS. But that's not the point of my post, what I'm wondering is if this feature can be ported to run on the Nexus 4. I don't know much about Android development, but it seems like there are two options for this to happen:
1. Port Touchwiz from the Note II to the Nexus 4, and then remove bloatware apps/retheme so that it looks more like AOSP.
2. Somehow remove the split-screen component from the touchwiz ROM, port to AOSP, profit.
Obviously #2 is preferable, but pretty far fetched. Can any developer folk provide some insight on whether either of these are feasible? I would really love to heave this feature on my phone.
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It'd be better on n7. I could watch twitch/use yaairc as desired!
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I don't see the appeal really. Unless on a Tablet. Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5". other than watching video while doing other things which we can already do. what else you need to do really that you can't just switch to
:xda on sprint g-nex:

If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.

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If any of the devs are reading this please please please find a way to port this baby on the Nexus 4. Im a multitasker and that quad core needs to be utilized.
Im begging.
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I'm not begging but +1
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Essentially, Google asked Onskreen/Cyanogenmod to stop.
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Wasn't it just moveable 'windows' that Google was against?

If you want to port touchwiz frame work over to the nexus. You do that then I will short the multi window!
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malibu_23 said:
Seems Pointless On A Screen Smaller Than 5"
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I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.

iamdave84 said:
I agree, but with most 2013 flagships being FullHD 5" phones, I think this feature is becoming increasingly useful. Splitting a 1080p screen in the middle leaves 2x 1080x960 halves, easily enough to functionally use most apps (at least while the keyboard isn't displayed) imo.
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While personally I don't much of a point for this on small screens - it still stands that the smaller screens of today are still going on resolutions that used to be tablet domain, Now that the lines between tablets, phablets and tablets have been getting much more blurry - and many of all 3 are based on same SoCs (Both due to SoC & auxiliary size shrinking and avg phone size growing) - this function should hopefully be revived.
Especially considering the developement an outspread of highly capable android tablets during the last year.