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Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
Well if you think the HD2 looks better id say no, something might be wrong.
The diffrence from LCD and OLED is night and day
You have a decent camera? If so take a pic with a so we can see
1quickturbosix said:
Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
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QQ
just return it, and get a G2....
and save us from the QQ
the galaxy s screen does seem to have large gaps between pixels
Im not QQ'ing. But its all I heard was how awesome the screen was on this phone. Either way, love the phone so far.
1quickturbosix said:
Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
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Hmm... What is your comparison, save for the HD2?
What images/graphics/etc are you using for your tests?
1quickturbosix, you are right the AMOLED screen on the Vibrant is not as sharp as an LCD screen of the same resolution, this is due to the pentile matrix arrangement of the sub pixels that Samsung uses on their AMOLED displays. However the AMOLED screen on the Vibrant does beat the pants off of LCD when it comes to contrast, black level, motion resolution, and color saturation. I had an HD2 before the Vibrant and the effective resolution difference was obvious, especially with small text, but I've gotten used to it.
There was a really good article explaining the differences between LCD and AMOLED displays posted here a while back, I'll post it if I can find it.
I also want to mention that the Samsung Galaxy S line of phones have the best touch sensitivty out there, even better than the mighty iPhone4, due to the fact that the SAMOLED screen incorporates the digitizer where on LCD screes it would be two separate pieces.
1quickturbosix said:
Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
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search on this forum for "Samsung HD The Beauty of Nature"
you can thank me later. [i didn't make the video]
^ a link for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8097635&highlight=Samsung+Beauty+Nature#post8097635
s15274n said:
^ a link for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8097635&highlight=Samsung+Beauty+Nature#post8097635
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yeah this video made a lot of jaws drop. thanks to [whoever] did the encoding to fit our screen.
In general the AMOLED screens don't render text as well as LCDs, but images are better. I do notice pixellation in text when zoomed way out, but I generally try not to read tiny text.
Kubernetes said:
In general the AMOLED screens don't render text as well as LCDs, but images are better. I do notice pixellation in text when zoomed way out, but I generally try not to read tiny text.
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true true. good thing having better images far outweigh trying to read anything at 5pt font.
i have the choice between the 2 different versions of incredibles. i have read some reports of possible battery life saved with the slcd, but i have also read where that information is false. i have read that colors are better on one than the other, but still not sure which one. i have read a lot, but still dont understand.
which one would you recommend to a new dinc owner? and why?
Thanks, Cody
AMOLED is a much better screen IMO
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codyppc said:
i have the choice between the 2 different versions of incredibles. i have read some reports of possible battery life saved with the slcd, but i have also read where that information is false. i have read that colors are better on one than the other, but still not sure which one. i have read a lot, but still dont understand.
which one would you recommend to a new dinc owner? and why?
Thanks, Cody
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Its not even comparable: amoled hands-down.
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If you'r on the east coast get hte SLCD and I"ll give you my AMOLED Mines in mint condition and has a Zagg on it.
It depends on how you want to use your phone.
AMOLED:
[+] Amazing colors, amazing viewing angles, superior power management overall with BLACK being the natural color (meaning little battery drain when displaying black, which are PURE blacks btw)
[-] Poor text rendering when zoomed out due to the pentile matrix pixel arrangement, not as sharp as LCD, consumes 3x more power when displaying WHITE pixels, pinkish hue when low brightness and blueish hue when max brightness, some users have burn-in issues.
SLCD:
[+] Accurate color representation, sharper than AMOLED and has normal text reproduction. Superior power management only when displaying WHITE (natural color).
[-] Worse power management overall especially when displaying black (which isn't nearly as dark), warmer color hue, worse viewing angles
I browse the web a lot. The web is composed of mostly white background with black text. For my purposes SLCD would be superior. Hope this helps!
Div033 said:
It depends on how you want to use your phone.
AMOLED:
[+] Amazing colors, amazing viewing angles, superior power management overall with BLACK being the natural color (meaning little battery drain when displaying black, which are PURE blacks btw)
[-] Poor text rendering when zoomed out due to the pentile matrix pixel arrangement, not as sharp as LCD, consumes 3x more power when displaying WHITE pixels, pinkish hue when low brightness and blueish hue when max brightness.
SLCD:
[+] Accurate color representation, sharper than AMOLED and has normal text reproduction. Superior power management only when displaying WHITE (natural color).
[-] Worse power management overall especially when displaying black, which aren't nearly as dark, warmer color hue, worse viewing angles
I browse the web a lot. The web is composed of mostly white background with black text. For my purposes SLCD would be superior. Hope this helps!
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Thank you for this post... Others say this or that is better, but you say what pro's and con's there are and which is best for you. I salute you!
Yes. Thanks
Thanks everyone
Cody
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I compared my Incredible's screen to the SLCD of the Droid X and I didn't regret picking the AMOLED Incredible. The colors are simply so much better that I was willing to forgive the annoyances of the PenTile matrix.
probably a stupid question.. how can you tell which one you have?
joshnichols189 said:
probably a stupid question.. how can you tell which one you have?
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look on your box at the model number or on your phone
if it ends with w2 then it amoled
if it ends with w3 is slcd
a few weeks later and i would of got a slcd glad i got my incredible while it was still with a incredible screen
ThugEsquire said:
I compared my Incredible's screen to the SLCD of the Droid X and I didn't regret picking the AMOLED Incredible. The colors are simply so much better that I was willing to forgive the annoyances of the PenTile matrix.
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As far as I'm aware the Droid X doesn't have a SLCD display. It has one very similar to the EVO which is a normal TFT LCD panel (Sony's would be Super-TFT, aka IPS panel similar to what's used on the iPhone 4).
The colors are quite great though on AMOLED I'll give you that. The biggest inconvenience is needing to zoom in when you read web pages, but that's not too big of a deal.
I did, however, forget to mention that AMOLED screens can have burn-in issues
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As far as I'm aware the Droid X doesn't have a SLCD display. It has one very similar to the EVO which is a normal TFT LCD panel (Sony's would be Super-TFT, aka IPS panel similar to what's used on the iPhone 4).
The colors are quite great though on AMOLED I'll give you that. The biggest inconvenience is needing to zoom in when you read web pages, but that's not too big of a deal.
I did, however, forget to mention that AMOLED screens can have burn-in issues
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i dont know if it works on amoled screens but it did work on my psp
when i had a burnt in image on my psp i found a white picture and plugged in my psp with full brightness and left it on overnight
got rid of it too although thats not recomended
I wish my incredible had an slcd, I'll take the sharper image and text rendering over the saturated color and supposed battery savings of the amoled. The screen on by d1 is noticeably sharper than my incredible. If they wouldn't have used the pentile matrix it would be all good.
It really is a simple decision.
Text (static picture) then slcd.
Movie (motion picture) then amoled.
If you do both....then...ah...well,...OK...maybe it's not really that simple.
On a side note:
To this day, I have not been able to enjoy a full length movie on an lcd, doesn't matter if it 60HZ or 240HZ. I can't keep my eyes off the blemishes (pixelations on fast frame-dark scenes). Just like the darn captions, you can't get your eyes off of them. Most people say they don't see the blemishes. I on the other hand, can't keep my eyes off of them (the blemishes that is).
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i dont know if it works on amoled screens but it did work on my psp
when i had a burnt in image on my psp i found a white picture and plugged in my psp with full brightness and left it on overnight
got rid of it too although thats not recomended
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That was probably image persistance, not burn in. LCDS are very resistant to it though. I love the White notification bar of Vanilla android but using the AMOLED with the white notifcation bar would be reproducing the problems the Nexus one had.
If theres a way to get a brand new, SLCD Dinc and not a refurb I'd stock my phone and make the switch D
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mikeymop said:
That was probably image persistance, not burn in. LCDS are very resistant to it though. I love the White notification bar of Vanilla android but using the AMOLED with the white notifcation bar would be reproducing the problems the Nexus one had.
If theres a way to get a brand new, SLCD Dinc and not a refurb I'd stock my phone and make the switch D
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I'm happy with my amoled
Sucks the HTC might avoid using it on later phones
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A couple of gents I work with have EVOs... Every time I use them, I can't stand their displays. The colors are so washed out.
I can't speak for the SLCD in the newer Incredibles, but you can pry my AMOLED Incredible out of my cold, dead hands.
To me, AMOLED is far superior.
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A couple of gents I work with have EVOs... Every time I use them, I can't stand their displays. The colors are so washed out.
I can't speak for the SLCD in the newer Incredibles, but you can pry my AMOLED Incredible out of my cold, dead hands.
To me, AMOLED is far superior.
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i totally agree. i had the evo since it was released and just got the dinc. i choose the amoled screen and couldn't be happier. amazing difference.
My Amoled screen is great! Text is perfect on it and colors are very deep and vibrant. I compared it to my buddies iPhone 4th gen and he now wants and Amoled The screen on the iPhone is very good but the Amoled is just better.
i've had both and i DEFINITELY like the slcd. the amoled turns all blacks purple on the lowest brightness (slcd doesnt, its perfect) and the slcd is way easier to see in sunlight (half brightness on the slcd in direct sunlight is easier to see than full brightness with the amoled).
i wish i still had my slcd screen
Hey Guys, I love the graphics on the super amoled screen but the jagged text really seems to bother me. Now I can simply zoom in on the browser but this isn't possible when looking at text through widgets on one of my home screens, I heard that voodoo color fixes this to a certain extent, are there any actual screen comparisons (i have already seen the simulated ones from the website) Is there anyway to fix this or no because it is due to the pentile matrix technology that samsung uses in the samoled screen?
Any help would be great.
The Voodoo screen fix helps the text to a degree. It looks a bit smoother. But there still is a bit of the "screen door" effect.
Its unavoidable on these amoled screens.
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viper134 said:
Is there anyway to fix this or no because it is due to the pentile matrix technology that samsung uses in the samoled screen?
Any help would be great.
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Simple! Display all your text in green! You'll have perfect, full, resolution. (Pen-tile ALWAYS has full-resolution, half-height green pixels, as it alternates between Rg/Bg.)
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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It uses PLS screen (Plane-to-Line Switching)
Further improvement in viewing angle
10 percent increase in brightness
Up to 15 percent decrease in production costs
Increased image quality
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hiepgia said:
It uses PLS screen (Plane-to-Line Switching)
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Right its RGBW not RGBG so Its gonna be quite different but definitely better than RGBG pen tile display in terms of whites even when compared to LCD it would be brighter
Also reviewers say that display looks quite awesome
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/
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Right its RGBW not RGBG so Its gonna be quite different but definitely better than RGBG pen tile display in terms of whites even when compared to LCD it would be brighter
Also reviewers say that display looks quite awesome
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-10-hands-on-video/
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RGBW? is it different than the standard RGB subpixel? like the [retina] ipad?
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RGBW? is it different than the standard RGB subpixel? like the [retina] ipad?
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It uses IPS screen. I would inform you that IPS screen might show problems with ghosting image as new Apple Macbook Retina Display.
Personally I prefer IPS LCD to Super Amoled technology. I prefer the more natural tones to the saturated colours on the SAMOLED.
What it is:
PLS - Plane to Line Switching. PLS screens are exclusive to Samsung.
RGB stripe - just like your desktop display.
What it is not:
IPS - In Plane Switching. While IPS and PLS are similar, there are differences, and PLS is generally thought to be superior.
RGBW - There is no evidence to support it being a RGBW display. Samsung has a RGBW display, but Google wanted a pure RGB display.
Pentile - Nope. No funky triangular subpixels or RGRB going on here.
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-10-specs-review-400-to-push-4-million-pixels-are-they-PenTile_id36103
mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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Well yeah the galaxy note 2 has amoled screen without pentile subpixel.
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dethrat said:
Well yeah the galaxy note 2 has amoled screen without pentile subpixel.
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Nope it's PLS-LCD, not AMOLED. Completely different, no per-pixel backlight.
Samsung seems to be saying that PLS is an IPS like display, we'll have to wait and see what the reviews say.
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yumcax said:
Nope it's PLS-LCD, not AMOLED. Completely different, no per-pixel backlight.
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I think you confused the Note 2 with the Note 10.1. The note 2 is SAMOLED with full RGB subpixel.
mvmacd said:
Earlier android authority said the nexus 10 had an AMOLED 2650*1600 screen. I was sad when I read that because I despise pentile subpixel.
But then android authority posted the "official" specs, but this time it didn't say pentile.
So does it have an IPS LCD or (S)AMOLED?
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It is impossible to set up such an huge OLED screen, with a high pixel density of 300 ppi.
If galaxy s3's screen(~5 inch) has a 90% yield, then a 10-inch-oled-300ppi screen would only get a 65% yield.
further more, the screen may take up too much power, around 10 watt, (white at 300nit)
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It seems like you may have a misconception here. AMOLED does not equate to pentile. Pentile refers to how the subpixels are arranged. AMOLED can have a RGB subpixel arrangement and LCD can be made to have pentile subpixel too. Just saying.
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No, I don't have a misconception.. I know Super AMOLED means PenTile subpixel, whereas Super AMOLED+ means RGB subpixel.
At least that is what an article I read said.
At any rate I know that 'AMOLED' doesn't mean PenTile, but in most cases [aside from Super AMOLED+] it does.
And thanks everyone.. I can't wait to get one of these, but I will have to wait till they go for cheaper on craigslist, because $499 is a little to much to spend right now. [and 16GB is just a little too small]
Download this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa&hl=en_GB
Put blue to +7
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I'm guessing he doesn't care for the tint caused by the AMOLED display of his device.
Of course, users who got the blue-tinted screen as opposed to the yellow-tinted screen should definitely not bother with this.
Thanks... At leats with this app we have more options on the hue of the screens.
Poetique said:
I'm guessing he doesn't care for the tint caused by the AMOLED display of his device.
Of course, users who got the blue-tinted screen as opposed to the yellow-tinted screen should definitely not bother with this.
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how do i know that XD