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Evo's Lack of color depth next to Nexus becoming a dealbreaker

I figure the connection issues will strengthen with updates...but Man these washed out colors are a bummer... bigger for me than capped graphics capacity

rockky said:
I figure the connection issues will strengthen with updates...but Man these washed out colors are a bummer... bigger for me than capped graphics capacity
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Any phone without AMOLED is going to look like that. We're spoiled by the vibrancy of AMOLED, but the switch back to LCD for me is fine. AMOLED has burn in issues, big time.

I agree. The color depth is going to be a deal breaker for me. Photographs just look so unnatural to me on the screen. I noticed it before I knew the phone had a 16bit screen. I thought it was some kind of server side compression degrading the photographs before they made it to the browser. (I have very little experience with android.) I take photography pretty seriously though and most people are probably lucky enough to not notice it.

k2snowboards88 said:
I agree. The color depth is going to be a deal breaker for me. Photographs just look so unnatural to me on the screen. I noticed it before I knew the phone had a 16bit screen. I thought it was some kind of server side compression degrading the photographs before they made it to the browser. (I have very little experience with android.) I take photography pretty seriously though and most people are probably lucky enough to not notice it.
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Im also a serious photographer. However, when you actually see the screen in person instead of in other pictures they look fine. Remember, the Nexus also has a 16 bit screen, it just looks more vibrant because it's AMOLED.

Geniusdog254 said:
Im also a serious photographer. However, when you actually see the screen in person instead of in other pictures they look fine. Remember, the Nexus also has a 16 bit screen, it just looks more vibrant because it's AMOLED.
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I did notice the 16 bit color in person without knowing that it had a 16 bit screen. I've never seen the nexus 1 so I can't compare it to that. Its definitely not the lack of saturation that bothers me. Its that chintzy quality that a 16 bit screen gives photographs that bothers me, unfortunately.

k2snowboards88 said:
I agree. The color depth is going to be a deal breaker for me. Photographs just look so unnatural to me on the screen. I noticed it before I knew the phone had a 16bit screen. I thought it was some kind of server side compression degrading the photographs before they made it to the browser. (I have very little experience with android.) I take photography pretty seriously though and most people are probably lucky enough to not notice it.
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Yeah I noticed it too in the specs & in use but not sure it's a deal breaker yet for me until I see it compared to the upcoming Samsung Android 24bitphones & iPhone4..

k2snowboards88 said:
I did notice the 16 bit color in person without knowing that it had a 16 bit screen. I've never seen the nexus 1 so I can't compare it to that. Its definitely not the lack of saturation that bothers me. Its that chintzy quality that a 16 bit screen gives photographs that bothers me, unfortunately.
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Ahh thats understandable I guess. To each his own.
I don't need my phone to show off my collection or view pictures. I have a Zune HD I use for media & have loaded up with music & my photo collections. OLED and good color depth, so it fits my needs.

Geniusdog254 said:
Ahh thats understandable I guess. To each his own.
I don't need my phone to show off my collection or view pictures. I have a Zune HD I use for media & have loaded up with music & my photo collections. OLED and good color depth, so it fits my needs.
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Fair enough. I wouldn't have posted in this thread if I knew that the nexus one also had a 16 bit screen. I just took the OP's word for the nexus having a high color depth.
for myself, one of my favorite things to do when I'm bored is just browse flickr for inspiration and fun. The 16 bit screen would but a big damper on that pastime.

I don't really note the lack of colors(I am not color blind), I just love how the colors that are there are extremely vibrant.

yeah....guess I shouldda had this view comin in
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Any phone without AMOLED is going to look like that. We're spoiled by the vibrancy of AMOLED, but the switch back to LCD for me is fine. AMOLED has burn in issues, big time.
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I wouldnt get the iphone again....but.... the upcoming screen quality should be extraordinary.
Hey the screen is our interface...its important to me.

rockky said:
I figure the connection issues will strengthen with updates...but Man these washed out colors are a bummer... bigger for me than capped graphics capacity
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after 2 weeks of getting rid of your nexus one you wont notice and the display will look real nice...AND you can see the damn screen in the sun..i hated that so much about my nexus, and the multitouch sensor

There's way too much blue in the screen also - too much blue can give a pink tint also bc it kills the green.
It makes me wonder why you can't adjust color on these $500 (retail) phone yet on a 200 netbook I can.
At first I thought plugged shadow and washed put highlights were bc of contrast. I didn't guess I should have done more homework.

I don't know. I think the screen looks great, and I came from a Nexus One. A friend of mine said the screen looks fake it's so crisp. I like my screen.

Looks amazing to me. Of course AMOLED is going to be better. It's higher quality. The EVO screen is just fine though. A huge step up from my Hero or any of my other devices (sans zune hd)

that's the problem with people like us. i work in printing and color correcting photos all day you just end up noticing things most people don't. we fuss for hours over wheter or not a customer would see if there's too much (name a color here) or not.
it's tough looking at magazines and critiquing the printing instead of the content sometimes, lol.

the color are worst then my Hero.

apollooff320 said:
the color are worst then my Hero.
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You've gotta be kidding me. Either something must be wrong with your EVO or you must have had an amazing Hero because the EVO beats my Hero in screen clarity and color hands down. I gave the Hero to my mother and even looking at it right now, there's just no competition.

sfox8 said:
You've gotta be kidding me. Either something must be wrong with your EVO or you must have had an amazing Hero because the EVO beats my Hero in screen clarity and color hands down. I gave the Hero to my mother and even looking at it right now, there's just no competition.
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I agree, and how you could not love that huge screen. AMOLED is a deal breaker for the majority of the population because it is impossible to see in sunlight, i've seen it myself and it is total garbage. The EVO screen is ridiculously beautiful in my eyes, but maybe that's because i will be upgrading from a blackberry pearl :x. Obviously the colors aren't as vivid as a nexus, but there is sometimes a over-saturation of colors.

apollooff320 said:
the color are worst then my Hero.
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I feel you man, my old Motorola razor screen blows this away!!
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I think the crispness of the text is because of the slcd . I had a galaxy s before I bought my nexus s .. The first difference i noticed was indeed the crispness of the text, on s amoled the text always looked a bit fuzzy even with sharpnes fixes... I do think the colorurs on the s amoled screen were "richer" than on the slcd screen.

If there's anything that bothers me about my i9020, it's that I can barely read the fuzzy, vague text on the screen. I can BARELY make it out half the time.
Very jealous of you guys.
EDIT: Im quite surprised no-one realised I was joking. I think my phone's screen looks amazing.

I don't know guys. I can read all the text on my i9020 just fine. I read all my kindle books on the smallest text settings and have no issues. This apps text looks great and so is web browsing.
This phone never had the yellow washed out color that alot of people complained about either.
The few times I've seen the two phones side by side the slcd screen looked terribly washed out compared to the super amoled.
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I have no problem reading the smallest of text on my SAMOLED Nexus S either and the pentile layout has never bothered me. In fact, side by side with a SLCD Nexus S the only way I can tell one from the other is by the black levels.
They are both very good displays.
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tatwamasi said:
If there's anything that bothers me about my i9020, it's that I can barely read the fuzzy, vague text on the screen. I can BARELY make it out half the time.
Very jealous of you guys.
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Either your phone needs to be repaired or you may need to get your eyes checked.
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Same here. I don't notice any fuzzy texts on the Nexus S or even the Vibrant when I had it (people were saying the same thing for the Vibrant too). Kind of curious what the fuzzy texts looks like. Any possible screenshots?

princeasi said:
Either your phone needs to be repaired or you may need to get your eyes checked.
Sent from my Nexus S
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this.
because its not that bad to the point its unreadable.

what some of you call "fuzzy" is the pentile pixel layout of the screen... (half the blue and red pixels compared to a conventional lcd screen)
see here: ars article
I personally think it's crap and can see it very clearly, it's about the only thing I don't like about my nexus one.

isn't there also a battery life issue??
i have a i9023 and my boss has a i9020, and my phone last much longer!

To be fair, certain fonts rendered in a smaller size dont look so great on SAMOLED pentile matrix screen. Like the font that comes with the matted blues theme.

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james6392 said:
Maybe it depends on what people like. Colours on the SAMOLED do look a bit oversaturated and that pleases most people. The black is definitely deeper as well.
However, I maintain that the SLCD is a lot easier on the eyes if you do a lot of reading.
I've taken a few photos of the two phones. Both in 100% brightness. There are some weird colour artefacts which I haven't edited out. The SAMOLED seems to get a green streak whereas SLCD gets a bit of magenta. In actual usage of course, they both look white (with the SLCD being a little bit on the blue side)
BTW, the pictures where taken at exactly the same magnification. Only very minor adjustments were made to bring the phones into focus due to the difference in thickness (yes, half a millimetre does make a difference in macro photography!!).
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man thats too close. is that how you read a text ? lol god help you " kidding "
i do see your point. and yes the Super amoled screen is not as clear in text as LCD. this was known for while. the advantage of the SA is deeper colors while better text reading and sharpness on SLCD.
i think they both look great. just matters of what you like most.

eiabea said:
isn't there also a battery life issue??
i have a i9023 and my boss has a i9020, and my phone last much longer!
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If i am not mistaken, engadget had a review regarding the battery life between the amoled desire vs slcd desire. amoled version lasted like 30-45 mins longer playing same video in loop.

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james6392 said:
I didn't know it was the i9023 and just by looking at it they're almost identical, however, the i9023 is a bit thicker and 10 grams heavier.
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When you say a bit thicker... Is there any official specs about I9023? Cause I have been searching by Google about that thickness (already before I saw this thread), but I have found nothing. I am getting my I9023 this week and have been just wondering, cause it has "just" lcd screen, it must be a little thicker...

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Thanks, that cleared. Sure looks a bit more "masculine", than I9020. Will see, when I get it to my hands...

no offense guys, the SCLCD of i9023 is so amazing. I did not realize the big difference until going out to direct sunlight.
Compare to my previous HTC desire HD which is totally hopeless under direct sunlight this is so much better, viewing angles is also a plus point for this. About the SAMOLED, I tried couple times on my friend's galaxy S, still prefer my current SCLCD

james6392 said:
Maybe it depends on what people like. Colours on the SAMOLED do look a bit oversaturated and that pleases most people. The black is definitely deeper as well.
However, I maintain that the SLCD is a lot easier on the eyes if you do a lot of reading.
I've taken a few photos of the two phones. Both in 100% brightness. There are some weird colour artefacts which I haven't edited out. The SAMOLED seems to get a green streak whereas SLCD gets a bit of magenta. In actual usage of course, they both look white (with the SLCD being a little bit on the blue side)
BTW, the pictures where taken at exactly the same magnification. Only very minor adjustments were made to bring the phones into focus due to the difference in thickness (yes, half a millimetre does make a difference in macro photography!!).
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Those pictures are so much alike besides the color is kinda silly. The pixels look exactly the same.
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iphone 4 screen displays better whites

Today I showed the screen of my galaxy s II to my iphone4 owning friend. We both loaded up bbc home page, and the white background on his phone looked much better than on my phone.
On my phone the white background looked cream in colour, where as his displayed as pure white.
Will this be able to be fixed with vodoo colour?

It can be helped with Voodoo color, but it can never look like an LCD based display since SAMOLED screens don't have the LED backlight in the back. And also, an iPhone 4's display has already been proven to be a bit blue tinted which makes whites look brighter when they're actually a slight shade of blue. I've spent a lot of time calibrating my Nexus S screen with Voodoo color and I can safely say the result is a more pleasant shade of white than my friend's iPhone 4. Also with Voodoo color I can boost the brightness higher than what the stock specifications permit so it's even a brighter white than the iPhone 4's if I want it to be, but it consumes a LOT of power.

Dannyboyni said:
Today I showed the screen of my galaxy s II to my iphone4 owning friend. We both loaded up bbc home page, and the white background on his phone looked much better than on my phone.
On my phone the white background looked cream in colour, where as his displayed as pure white.
Will this be able to be fixed with vodoo colour?
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Cream? Really? http://amishlandofct.com/resources/color+cream.jpg
At any rate - yes, voodoo colour can change the colour temperature.

Dannyboyni said:
Today I showed the screen of my galaxy s II to my iphone4 owning friend. We both loaded up bbc home page, and the white background on his phone looked much better than on my phone.
On my phone the white background looked cream in colour, where as his displayed as pure white.
Will this be able to be fixed with vodoo colour?
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the nature of LCD and OLED makes the colors differ here in America. It also makes the colours differ in England and most of its former colonies.
You can try setting the separate brightness setting in the browser settings to 100% (it is separate from general brightness setting in the phone settings).
I bet it would still have a different hue if you look at them side by side.
You can also try taking a friend with an iP4 that is a year old to a store that sells iP4 now, and compare how they look - you will probably see some difference there too, side by side.

He was saying to me, "oh your screen tech hasn't evolved yet, you cant display proper white", haha, "my text is so much sharper than yours".
It was true about the text, my heart sank when I compared BBC homepage in portrait mode. His text looked MUCH sharper than mines. But then he has got a much higher resolution.
I really did feel humiliated, I just want nice pure white like the iphone4 has. I know I don't have a backlight.

RyanZA said:
Cream? Really? http://amishlandofct.com/resources/color+cream.jpg
At any rate - yes, voodoo colour can change the colour temperature.
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that is a freaking picture of some fabric, right??? because I got scared thinking my laptop LCD is showing banding on cream color.

Haha... I guess the only difference between boys and men are the price of their toys huh?
If you want to humiliate him, ask him to show you a black image. Then laugh at how much light leakage he has. Then play a high quality youtube clip like a movie trailer with some action scenes, then laugh at how slow his pixel response is (ghosting). Also while you're trying to play a high quality youtube clip... remind him that he needs to be on wifi in order to do it because he only gets low quality over 3G =)
Trust me I'd take the SAMOLED over an LCD display any day. Same reason I have a plasma TV and not an LCD/LED one.
Dannyboyni said:
He was saying to me, "oh your screen tech hasn't evolved yet, you cant display proper white", haha, "my text is so much sharper than yours".
It was true about the text, my heart sank when I compared BBC homepage in portrait mode. His text looked MUCH sharper than mines. But then he has got a much higher resolution.
I really did feel humiliated, I just want nice pure white like the iphone4 has. I know I don't have a backlight.
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dinan said:
Haha... I guess the only difference between boys and men are the price of their toys huh?
If you want to humiliate him, ask him to show you a black image. Then laugh at how much light leakage he has. Then play a high quality youtube clip like a movie trailer with some action scenes, then laugh at how slow his pixel response is (ghosting). Also while you're trying to play a high quality youtube clip... remind him that he needs to be on wifi in order to do it because he only gets low quality over 3G =)
Trust me I'd take the SAMOLED over an LCD display any day. Same reason I have a plasma TV and not an LCD/LED one.
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What, because you prefer an inferior picture quality? There is a reason the big manufacturers are phasing out plasma.

dinan said:
Haha... I guess the only difference between boys and men are the price of their toys huh?
If you want to humiliate him, ask him to show you a black image. Then laugh at how much light leakage he has. Then play a high quality youtube clip like a movie trailer with some action scenes, then laugh at how slow his pixel response is (ghosting). Also while you're trying to play a high quality youtube clip... remind him that he needs to be on wifi in order to do it because he only gets low quality over 3G =)
Trust me I'd take the SAMOLED over an LCD display any day. Same reason I have a plasma TV and not an LCD/LED one.
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I second this.
Why didn't you test the black on both screens too?
Iphone4 does have a higher resolution, so it's silly to go comparing that, since it's a known fact.

dinan said:
Trust me I'd take the SAMOLED over an LCD display any day. Same reason I have a plasma TV and not an LCD/LED one.
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I would go one step further: comparing SGS2 screen to iP4 screen is like sitting on a coach 15 feet from TV and comparing a fine 480P 37 inch plasma TV with a "finer" 4K 32 inch LCD TV
Pagnell said:
What, because you prefer an inferior picture quality? There is a reason the big manufacturers are phasing out plasma.
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They are phasing out plasmas because they are more expensive, eat more power , are harder to make, and can't compete with LCDs in price.
Real video buffs still prefer Plasma for its true blacks and great refresh rates.

I'm not gonna let this get into a TV debate but it's well known videophiles and avid cinema/sports watchers will always choose a plasma TV over an LCD because of the purer blacks and insanely faster pixel response (no ghosting like an LCD/LED). The mere fact that LCD/LED TVs even have to QUOTE a pixel response time indicates an inferiority.
And this also carries through to phones. If you don't believe me, try it. Pick up any HTC phone and compare it to any Galaxy phone. Go to a black menu with white text... perhaps the settings menu and scroll up and down. You'll notice MASSIVE text ghosting on the HTC LCD screens but none on the SAMOLED screen. Please, don't come back claiming things you haven't tested yourself with no facts to back it up.
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What, because you prefer an inferior picture quality? There is a reason the big manufacturers are phasing out plasma.
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kreoXDA said:
They are phasing out plasmas because they are more expensive, eat more power , are harder to make, and can't compete with LCDs in price.
Real video buffs still prefer Plasma for its true blacks and great refresh rates.
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Real buffs prefer high quality LED panels, plasma simply can't compete with the definition even if fast moving imagery is sometimes better. And I know this as someone who has owned high quality sets of every type.
Plasma's days were numbered as soon as it's monopoly on extra large panels ceased to exist thanks to LCD and then LED technology allowing 42" and above panels to be financially and technically viable with no loss of quality.
Still, we can agree to differ on all that if you wish.
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And this also carries through to phones. If you don't believe me, try it. Pick up any HTC phone and compare it to any Galaxy phone. Go to a black menu with white text... perhaps the settings menu and scroll up and down. You'll notice MASSIVE text ghosting on the HTC LCD screens but none on the SAMOLED screen. Please, don't come back claiming things you haven't tested yourself with no facts to back it up.
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I fail to see where the comparison between SAMOLED and LCD is relevant to a comparison between LCD/LED and plasma.
Oh, and I have tested myself.

What do you mean with "pure white"? To me it sounds like iphone has colder color temperature, that is not better, just different. In fact that would give less natural colors.
Try to change color temperature on your pc monitor to understand what I mean, a warm temperature of 6500K is more creamish than a cold temperature of let's say 9000K.

Pagnell said:
Real buffs prefer high quality LED panels...
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I hope you do realize LED is just another type of backlight for same LCD screen, and it not always makes that same LCD produce truer blacks, and it does not do a thing to refresh rates.
dinan said:
I'm not gonna let this get into a TV debate ...
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What he said. I am done.

kreoXDA said:
I hope you do realize LED is just another type of backlight for same LCD screen, and it not always makes that same LCD produce truer blacks, and it does not do a thing to refresh rates.
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Obviously, I'm well aware of the technicalities of all current TV technology or I wouldn't be entering a debate about it.
Anyway, agree to differ and move on, as said derailing this thread is pointless.

Ask him to play a flash video from the browser And it is true the iphone's display is fairly impressive but I prefer the bright colors, larger size, and better power consumption of the SAMOLED+

Are you aware that the GS2 screen has 2 different brightness settings? It has the normal brightness, but lower down the menu it has a setting 'Auto adjust screen power' This actually dulls whites when there is a lot of white on the screen to reduce power use. If you untick it the screen is a lot more pure white.
Oh and on the subject of TV screens plasmas are getting a boost from 3D. 3D plasmas are much better than LED/LCD because of their reaction times. Much much less ghosting and as a result deeper 3D effect. A full HD plasma is still the best screen there is right now. Much less harsh than an LCD, better blacks, more realistic colours and less intense whites.

Dannyboyni said:
He was saying to me, "oh your screen tech hasn't evolved yet, you cant display proper white", haha, "my text is so much sharper than yours".
It was true about the text, my heart sank when I compared BBC homepage in portrait mode. His text looked MUCH sharper than mines. But then he has got a much higher resolution.
I really did feel humiliated, I just want nice pure white like the iphone4 has. I know I don't have a backlight.
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Who cares about which screen displaying bbc has better white. This baby has everything, 1080p, bluetooth 3.0, wireless n, hspa+, dual core, android (!), better battery and I think the samoled+ can display colours much better. Also no gay itunes and you do not need to jailbreak your iPhone (which makes the iPhone instable and ****) to just get freedom
Edit: forget about these things
4.3" screen, 9mm thick, 116g, micro sd slot and more.. seriously that phone rapes the iPhone

Dannyboyni said:
He was saying to me, "oh your screen tech hasn't evolved yet, you cant display proper white", haha, "my text is so much sharper than yours".
It was true about the text, my heart sank when I compared BBC homepage in portrait mode. His text looked MUCH sharper than mines. But then he has got a much higher resolution.
I really did feel humiliated, I just want nice pure white like the iphone4 has. I know I don't have a backlight.
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funny that you fall for that
put his iphone in the sun and say "whats white good for if you can't see anything?"
they're different techs. besides, true white is subjective. then theres like 150 other reasons why the SGS2 is technically better, and why the iphone5 will actually be very similar to the SGS2.

I can confirm this "cream" or, as I would put it, "yellow" tint to the screen and whites in particular. It's not right - I consider it a fault. My old (now current) SGS has the most perfect, even whites I've ever seen on a phone - even beating thr iPhone 4 in my opinion.
The SGSII is horribly bad quality as far as I'm concerned. I see nothing in SAMOLED+ that improved over SAMOLED. It's actually more grainy, too saturated, viewing angles - bizarrely are off, and blurs slightly when scrolling. What the hell is up with Samsung?

Opinion about SAMOLED+ from people that hate Pentile

I'd like to get opinions about the SAMOLED+ screen on the Samsung Galaxy S2 from people that hate Pentile screens (like me ).
Do you think SGS2 is a lot sharper than SAMOLED Pentile screens? Does the text looks as good as in a regular LCD or SLCD screens?
It's important that the opinion comes from people that really dislike or hate pentile screens because it seems that not everybody notice the effect caused by these.

Well, thats one to get a hundred percent viewpoint.
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Well, thats one to get a hundred percent viewpoint.
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I don't get you.
The thing is that SGS2 doesn't have pentile but given that is the same resolution on a bigger screen and I'm not even sure if the pixel matrix is identical to a LCD I think that maybe is not that better at the end?
I'm just trying to decide if I buy the phone or if I'm better keeping a Nexus S (with a pentile display I don't really like...) until Samsung deliver the higher resolution SAMOLED+

Enjoy...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-s-screens-compared-at-the-subpixel-level/

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Enjoy...
engadget.com/2011/05/19/galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-s-screens-compared-at-the-subpixel-level/
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Thanks for the link! But I already know the technical differences...
I'm looking opinion from people that disliked the Galaxy S and Nexus S pentile screen specifically (or even Atrix screen for what it's worth)

Alien987 said:
Thanks for the link! But I already know the technical differences...
I'm looking opinion from people that disliked the Galaxy S and Nexus S pentile screen specifically (or even Atrix screen for what it's worth)
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Let's reverse the question. Does anybody like the Pentile display? From everything I've read its really just a cost saver for the manufacturer. So I'm guessing the answer would be no. At least not given any another option.

The screen looks exactly as LCD ..

After going from a Pentile display to a SLCD (N1 to DHD), I was shocked at how a screen with the same effective resolution (WVGA) could look so much sharper even after the size being increased by 0.6 inches. I began to understand why Pentile was getting so much bad press in tech circles and reviews. At the time I associated Pentile with AMOLED, as the only AMOLED based phones (N1, Desire, SGS) used a Pentile matrix and due to this my opinion on AMOLED was that despite the brilliant contrast, it was inferior to LCD.
It's safe to say that the SAMOLED+ reversed my previous opinion by ridding itself of the Pentile matrix. It's almost as if it is an entirely new screen tech. There's not much else to say other than once you see it, you will struggle to believe you could ever go back to a LCD/IPS or plain old AMOLED. The clarity and colour produced by this screen is second to none, regardless of PPI.
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I voted yes!
I liked the Screen very much.. but my eyes hurt after a while reading.
Think mostly because of the ghosting / washed effect from scrolling text.

i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.

Comparing the SII and S is like night and day. Whenever I go back to use my S I can't believe how bad it is. You won't be disappointed with the SII trust me.

RogerPodacter said:
i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
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I agree, I was glad when I got my desire it turned out to be a slcd one because the ones I had seen in the shop (as well as the sgs1) were all amoleds and I wasn't to impressed with them, the fonts looked very ugly and jagged, a lot worse compared to my old lg arena; For my the DPI should have been a lot higher for better fonts but they are okay. I had to try a lot of browser though before I found which renders small text the best (xscope) so you can make a bit of use of the large screen

Thanks everybody for your input!
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i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
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This is what I fear I love iPhone 4 display text crispness, I didn't like Atrix that much because everything looked like it had a weird texture.
godutch said:
I agree, I was glad when I got my desire it turned out to be a slcd one because the ones I had seen in the shop (as well as the sgs1) were all amoleds and I wasn't to impressed with them, the fonts looked very ugly and jagged, a lot worse compared to my old lg arena; For my the DPI should have been a lot higher for better fonts but they are okay. I had to try a lot of browser though before I found which renders small text the best (xscope) so you can make a bit of use of the large screen
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Nice tip about the browser!

I had the Atrix and half the reason I sold it is because I couldn't stand the terrible screen. I dont even notice the loss of pixels with the S2 because things seem so much more crisp, like the edges on icons and a lot of other things.

lynxboy said:
After going from a Pentile display to a SLCD (N1 to DHD), I was shocked at how a screen with the same effective resolution (WVGA) could look so much sharper even after the size being increased by 0.6 inches. I began to understand why Pentile was getting so much bad press in tech circles and reviews. At the time I associated Pentile with AMOLED, as the only AMOLED based phones (N1, Desire, SGS) used a Pentile matrix and due to this my opinion on AMOLED was that despite the brilliant contrast, it was inferior to LCD.
It's safe to say that the SAMOLED+ reversed my previous opinion by ridding itself of the Pentile matrix. It's almost as if it is an entirely new screen tech. There's not much else to say other than once you see it, you will struggle to believe you could ever go back to a LCD/IPS or plain old AMOLED. The clarity and colour produced by this screen is second to none, regardless of PPI.
Regards.
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QFT. I also felt the text crispness of the S was quite lacking as against SLCD/LCD. But the SAMOLED+ of the S2 is really super. I cannot see any issues with text sharpness down to even small almost unreadable levels. I was sceptical about the 480x800 vs qhd of the sensation, and that too for a larger scree size, but was very happy when I switched on the phone for the first time. Text is pin sharp, colours absolutely brilliant. Cannot go back to SLCD.
In fact as another poster stated, sometimes the very high contrast is a slight pain actually. I wish there was a way to turn down the brightness even more for indoors / night use.

sandeep10 said:
In fact as another poster stated, sometimes the very high contrast is a slight pain actually. I wish there was a way to turn down the brightness even more for indoors / night use.
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You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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sieudaochich said:
You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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Thanks. Just what I was looking for. Will make my e-reading at night hugely easier.

sieudaochich said:
You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Cannot thank posts on Tapatalk yet so just want to say major thanks for bringing this app to my attention! As Sandeep says, for those of us who read Ebooks at night this is a life (eye) saver! No more nagging from the missus regarding my screen glare.
Back on topic, I've compared the screens of the Sensation and SGS2 first hand and in normal usage the increased resolution of the Sensation doesn't offer a discernible increase in sharpness over the SGS2. Those with eagle eyes will no doubt contest this, but in truth the overall clarity of the SGS2 panel is IMHO superior to that of the Sensation. That said, if a qHD AMOLED phone was released, I'd be all over it!
Regards.

Just been comparing my friends HTC Desire (pentile amoled) with my SGS2 side by side and my Samsung is noticeably more sharper even though my screen is bigger. Desire has fuzzy text and colours aren't as good.
I hate pentile displays. I had the original SGS1 and returned it within a week because of the screen, but didn't know about pentile displays back then.

I didn't really mind it on my SGS but once I got my Atrix I hated the screen, I don't care for high res as I can barely read as is, but the SGS II screen is amazing compared to the original SGS.

[Q] RG-BW Pentile,text sharp?

note 10.1 2014 has a PenTile RG-BW LCD display, my friend said that the text is fuzzy.who can tell me really? i want to watch picture that the screen enlarges, thank you very mach!!

newszq said:
note 10.1 2014 has a PenTile RG-BW LCD display, my friend said that the text is fuzzy.who can tell me really? i want to watch picture that the screen enlarges, thank you very mach!!
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every review so far said the screen was very good and certainly not "fuzzy" maybe your friend was talking about pentile technology in general which doesn't have a great reputation, but i've never had a problem with it on high resolution devices.

newszq said:
note 10.1 2014 has a PenTile RG-BW LCD display, my friend said that the text is fuzzy.who can tell me really? i want to watch picture that the screen enlarges, thank you very mach!!
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Pretty much all the reviews of this product praise the screen unconditionally. The only review I read that even noticed it was PenTile was this one from AnandTech.
If the pixel density was much lower, you'd probably see undesirable things like this, but the consensus seems to be that the pixel density is so high that it doesn't really matter. Engadget in particular loves to slam PenTile screens but didn't even mention it this time.

I am a pentile fanatic. I absolutely hate pentile. The text is gorgeous though. Especially at normal tablet viewing distance. If you put the tablet 4 inches from your face, you can easily tell it is pentile for solid colors like green in the battery indicator. It's actually harder for me to tell with the black or white text than bold solid colored areas. But normal viewing distance everything pretty much blends like the Galaxy S 4. My biggest complaint is the yellow seems kind of off compared to my original Note 10.1 but that might just be personal preference.
Ironically I think I can easily live with and very much enjoy using this screen but the physical hardware buttons is annoying the crap out of me. It's going to be a while before I'm used to it.
If the next Note is full RGB again I'll jump back out of principle probably but this screen is far better than what I thought it would be.
Hope that helps.

That is a dangerous word, leave out the 't' and you are in a whole different ballpark. lol
Seriously though, mine looks great, no fuzziness at all.