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Hey there,
This is my first post. I'm a mac user (no snide comments please). I just got the MDA a few weeks ago, and just can't figure out if it's worth it for me to keep this thing. It surfs the web like sh**. Slower than a snail. I'm on the T-Mobile GPRS system, which is supposed to be really fast.
I've been reading a lot about the ability to MOD my MDA. But if i can't sync the sucker to my Mac, how can i get the files necassary to MOD the MDA? Let me add that i have NO idea how to MOD the MDA. Things like changing the THEME, the font color, etc.
Thanks for reading this post.....
Whalien
There is no official support for the Mac on any Windows Mobile device, but there are third party tools out there. The Missing Sync (2.5 beta) will sync to Windows Mobile 5 devices. It works nicely and syncs with iCal, Address Book, Entourage, etc. The beta only syncs via Bluetooth, but if you get the USBSwitch tool and switch the mode to Serial, Activesync via USB will work as well.
If all you want to do is send files to your MDA, all you need is OS X's built in tools. Pair the MDA with your Mac and use the Bluetooth file transfer utility to send files. You can also install from CAB files this way; send them to your phone and run it there.
What Mac do you have? If you have an Intel one, you can install Parallels Desktop, which provides a virtualization environment for running Windows inside OS X. They have rudimentary USB Support, but it's getting better. You can also install Boot Camp and boot to Windows when you need to sync.
See there you are with alot of options, dont give up on the MDA yet
got O2 Atom as well as missing sync 2.5. MS froze during connection
I too love my Mac and... well, like my Wizard. But I'd have real reservations about keeping the Wizard if you don't at least have regular accesss to a Windows thing. (An Intel Mac dual-booting would work, of course; Virtual PC mostly works too.)
Here's how I coordinate the Mac and the Wizard:
1) You really do need to flash the ROM, and you need a PC to do it. (I didn't risk this on Virtual PC, but it might work.) I grabbed an old Windows 2000 laptop, put ActiveSync on it, and it works fine. Run LokiWiz or another program to CID and SIM-unlock the phone, then put the newest customized 2.21 USA T-Mobile ROM on it. It makes EVERYTHING better - I get 3 bars where I used to get 0, you get push e-mail support, etc. But if you don't have access to a PC, you can't do this, and you're stuck with the terrible ROM T-Mobile gives you.
You also need a PC to install some software that doesn't come in a .cab installer, though sometimes you can just launch the installer in Virtual PC and grab the .cab file it unpacks and hand-install that.
2) You can pair the Wizard with the Mac through Bluetooth and use it (a) as an EDGE modem and (b) to push files. Use Bluetooth File Exchange, always dismiss the warning that the type of file isn't supported, and the file will push to your Wizard. This is a good way to install programs that come in .CABs. The other way, of course, is to get an SD reader and mount your MiniSD card.
3) There's a great little shareware utility called SyncTunes that will sync an iTunes playlist and your podcasts to an SD card (or MiniSD, of course). I mount my SD card and use that to sync music fairly regularly. iPhoto can also pull photos and videos off the card. Of course. I mean, of course it Just Works.
4) Although it's not as smooth as an iPod with video, non-protected video files prepared for the iPod work pretty well. I use the free iSquint to convert, and play back with TCPMP (with the AAC plug-in).
5) Finally, syncing. I haven't bothered trying Missing Sync, and don't expect to, because you don't need to.
Just make sure you have an Exchange account. If you have one for your main e-mail account, great; if not, get one through mail2web.com. (You might need to get the $2/month rather than the free one for all of this to work.) I'll assume you also have Entourage (the Mac equivalent of Outlook in MS office). Make sure you install the latest Entourage service patch.
That patch allows Entourage to sync with Address Book and iCal. So use Entourage to sync your Exchange account with your Mac information. Then use ActiveSync over-the-air to push all that stuff onto your Wizard. (I.e., configure an ActiveSync server on your Wizard.) Magically, all your Address Book and iCal stuff is there! And, if you do it right, changes on the handheld should sync back to iCal eventually as well (albeit always in the Entourage category).
Hope that's helpful. I'll keep an eye on this thread if any of that didn't make sense, or my fellow Mac faithful are welcome to message me.
As much as I've used Missing Sync in the past for other devices, it just doesn't work well with the Wizard. Too many problems. I also us it with my Mac all the time and I have an account with 4martphone.com. The nice thing is you can stay in sync without actually having to connect and sync (which i'd forget to do all the time). I use Entourage to sync with that Exchange account, then I configured Entourage to sync with OS X's databases (address book, ical, etc). My only wish now is a simple app for my phone that will let me mount the card on my mac as if it were a USB drive.
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monkey_42 thanks for the DETAILED post. it's so good to finally get some response to my questions concerning the MDA and my MAC. so far, i've only been able to bluetooth some apps to the phone and they seems to be running fine, SPB weather and AGILE messanger. aside that, i'm scared to do the ROM update. read loads of bad reports and issues people have been having. but you're a mac guy so that sooths my concerns. but back to the main issue, how the heck to i get the stuff on the computer. we havea PC at work. i suppose i'll update the ROM the way you mention. thanks again.
T-Mobile claims that they're working on fixing the CHAT issues they're having with the MDA. So at this point, their OZ app doesn't work. They gave me 50 mins extra this month to compensate. Thanks for nothing. But AGILE does work.
sounds like Entourage is the only way to SYNC my Mac to the MDA. So does that mean MAIL is out? i've been using that app for years now. i'd hate to have to give it up. any idea if there are mac folk out there working on any of these issues? it's such a pain to have to deal with a PC.....i know i now own on....time to learn how to deal.
thanks for the reply's guys. l'm hoping this will start more dialog concerning the mac and the mda.
cheers,
whalien
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dma....didnt' mean to leave you out in my last response. i too wish the mac would recognize the miniSD when i plug it in via USB cable. no luck either.
is there a mac forum we can contact about this? everyone on this is just PC. i have no idea what they're all talking about. wish i was more PC fluent.
cheers,
whalien
MDA Working as Modem on a Mac
I was wondering if anyone had a way to use tthe mda as a modem on a mac using bluetooth and or usb? Thanks
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i too wish the mac would recognize the miniSD when i plug it in via USB cable. no luck either.
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I've used WM5torage to mount the miniSD on my G4 iMac. Works pretty well with OSX, but I had problems with OS 9. Search the forum or Google for a link.
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Seems I was mistaken and WM5torage doesn't in fact work on my Mac. I must have used my card reader (which is also oblong and silver) to mount the miniSD card. Sorry if I've misled anyone with this posting.
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There's also Softick CardExport II which does the same thing, although you have to pay for this. (They wouldn't let me migrate my Palm licence, so I'm not too happy with them.)
Both apps work by emulating the USB mass storage interface over USB, which is the same way that most modern external USB hard disks work.
HTH
sounds like Entourage is the only way to SYNC my Mac to the MDA. So does that mean MAIL is out? i've been using that app for years now. i'd hate to have to give it up. any idea if there are mac folk out there working on any of these issues? it's such a pain to have to deal with a PC.....i know i now own on....time to learn how to deal.
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I don't think I know what you mean by syncing mail with the OS X Mail.app. You sync mail with your server, not with your desktop mail client. What is your mail coming from? If it's coming from an Exchange server, you sync with that; ditto if it's coming from a POP server. Who's your mail account with - yahoo? gmail? your office? That determines how you check mail on the Wizard, not what program you use to check that same account on the Mac.
When I wrote about Entourage above, that was as a way of syncing tasks/contacts/calendar with an Exchange server. I assume that if that's working for you, you're just checing Exchange mail with Mail.app. If that's the case, just set up your Wizard to ActiveSync with the Exchange server and all will be well.
If that's not the situation, please explain better what you mean by syncing mail with Mail.app, and we'll see what we can do here.
I'm using Missing Sync 2.5 alpha 10 release. I have just found USBswitch which works great.
I can dual boot windows on my intel iMac, but syncing with outlook is not great - it seems to miss the last week or two's appointments.
I haven't tried my windows laptop for outlook - maybe that would work better.
I sync with iCal & Address Book. It won't sync with iCal, but if I enter all my appointments in iCal & let the Mac overwrite my MDA Vario, then all is ok.
Address book seems to sync properly.
Mounting the Vario works in 2.5a10, but unmounting seems to lock up the iMac every time, so it is a last resort.
I'm not upgrading to the US T mobile ROM. everything will be wrong for me in the UK.
I'm contemplating using the imate Rom 2.17 wwe version. What benefits will it give me over my 1.6.2.4 UK T mobile ROM?
And how will I get back all my T mobile stiings for the UK such as GPRS/voicemail/SMS/MMS etc.
syncing with the mac
hey Monkey_42
you wrote:
I don't think I know what you mean by syncing mail with the OS X Mail.app. You sync mail with your server, not with your desktop mail client. What is your mail coming from? If it's coming from an Exchange server, you sync with that; ditto if it's coming from a POP server. Who's your mail account with - yahoo? gmail? your office? That determines how you check mail on the Wizard, not what program you use to check that same account on the Mac.
i appologize for not being more specific. i do use my work email's server, and it pushes my emails to me no problem. the issue i'm having is that i'm trying to become a more appointment accurate indivdual. i figured the best way to do this was by enlisting a smartphone in my everyday routine. seeing that i am a MAC user, i was hoping to include my address book and my ical on my phone, and visa versa. i enter appointments and address directly to the phone most of the time, but sometimes that's tedious and then there's no way to get it on my MAC. when i had a PALM PILOT years ago, i could utilize the PALM software to sync the info to and from my old device, thus backing up any data i had just entered on my phone to my computer.
with the new MDA, there's no way for me to do this. i have seen the MISSING SYNC app out there. but is it worth it for me to buy it? just seems like there's got to be a way to get my phone and my computer on the same page. without spending another $80.00 i'm new to the organizing routine and i'd like to be sure i'm going about it the most efficient way so i can build on a good routine from MDA to MAC and MAC to MDA.
thanks again for the reply. might i ask if you've updated your ROM? and what other things have you modified on your device? i'd like to change my TODAY colors and layout. any suggestions?
cheers,
whalien
whalien -
to change the theme: start-settings-today to change the theme.
to change the way the soft buttons work in Today : start-settings-soft key
to change buttons: start-settings-buttons
to change the menu in today: start-settings-menu.
i.e explore your device!
Hi,
When looking at 3rd party apps to run on my Universal you often have the option to use either a PPC version of the software or a Smartphone version - which one should I go for?
In my mind the the Universal is a bit of both so difficult to decide.
PocketPC, but remember that it runs Windows Mobile 5, not 2002/2003/2003se. Not all apps are WM5 compatible.
Thanks, I'm slowly getting to grips with it all :lol:
Now all I need to do is work out how to shift mail over to my SD card and I can stop playing and actually start using this thing :lol:
When you say "shift mail over" what exactly do you mean?
You can back up your emails to Outlook using ActiveSync, but that goes to the desktop. From there you can make them .EML files and move them back (I'd prefer to put them into text files for this.
Otherwise maybe you mean the attachments from emails?
Hi,
I want to monitor 3-4 email accounts on my Exchange server. One via standard pocket outlook and then three others via IMAP and ideally would like to store a couple of months of messages (including attachments) on each account so instead of storing the messages on the phones memory I am trying to find a way of moving them to be stored on the SD card.
Hi All,
Just got a Universal (JasJar) recently and this is my first post. I searched for this on this forum but am either blind or stoopid..
My Question:
Is there any way on a universal to move all outlook emails (not just attachments) to the storage card?
I have a lot of subfolders I want to sync and have just completed my second sync and currently all is well.
I have chosen to store attachments on the storage card but don't see any way to store the mails themselves on the storage card..
I am wondering if there is any way, that in future, all mails (not just attachments) will go directly to storage card during active sync?
I can see myself running out of room pretty quickly on main memory.
I'm not that clued in on the whole registry editing thing and don't want to jeopardise my mails, either on the device or my laptop (not to mention my existing mails on the universal!).
Any help appreciated! (as well as a tip on a good freeware Reg editor for Universal).
Cheers in advance,
wab.
Take a look at the article referenced at the url below for instructions on how to do this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56047&highlight=
You'll need to remove the today screen email plug-in if you use this technique
An explanation is given in the referenced article
Thanks AcapulcoRolf,
I'll investigate the link.
Appreciate that.
Bigger fish to fry now that my landscape screen has disappeared (only getting a white screen in landscape mode but fine in portrait mode - Ribbon connection is faulty).
Try to install these cabs:-
MoDaCo_CardInbox.CAB
Card_Cache.CAB
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321579
I have done lots of searches but can't solve this one so I am hoping someone can walk me through it.
I have a 2GB storage card and I would really like to sync directly to it. It doesn't really matter for My DOcuments and bits and bobs as they are not big and I can always move them but the probelm is email.
I like to keep my outlook synchronised and certain folders synced at all times but unlike the MDAIII the Vatio II can't do this as the memory is too low. I need a way to store the attachments on the card and be able to access them seemlessly or to just sync directly with the card (ideally).
I have looked at the link for mobilesync but it doesn;t download properly and I can't get it to work. If anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it. I am not up to tweeking registries etc. I am IT literate but not a boffin!
thanks
If you go to email, email options, memory tab - you can select to store attachments to to storagecard. It works fine with incoming email attachments - not totally sure about outlook emails but its probably worth a try. Let me know the result
There is a setting in Mobile Outlook that allows you to store attachments on the storage card. Did you try that? Within Messaging it is Tools/Options/Storage tab
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My device now isn't syncing at all. THe laptop is connecting as it is charging the device but it is seeing it as a guest and not syncing - help
oh dear
I have done this and it is now syncing fine but I still can't access teh attahment s when reading my mail because presumably it is not accessing my storage card by default. How do I set it to read attachments from there?
I don't want to ask the obvious but in activesync have you unchecked the boxes in options / email that limit file size or limit the download of attachments? If these are still checked it could be your problem
Ok,
My aim is to save all mail (not just attachments) on The SD Card for wm6 devices specifically htc hd2
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
been there done that, the "storage card2" problem is persistent (on this device) even if it remains "storage card" after 5-6 reboots; sooner or later it is renamed "storage card2" and a new "storage card" folder is created at the root of your device where all new mail starts to get stored... :-(
the issue really is that he sd card is recognized after the registry tweaks / are executed at boot up
So, how do we make sure that the OS to recognizes SD Card first before the mail starts at boot-up or teh registry tweaks are executed
i have tried all other things like (without success)
1. disable sense,
2. use windows default theme & remove messaging plugin from today's home screen
3. place a shortcut of SD card folder in teh start-up folder
4. deleted all other items in startup folder which load at boot
5. formatted the sd card as fat 16 / fat 32 with all possible sector sizes...
u name it i have done it .. does not work..
what we need are some serious registry tweaks... anyone interested ? any suggestions ?
One suggestion i have in mind (for someone who knows how to write cab / .exe files) is to create a small program to enable and disable the following registry tweak at boot-up and shut-down a shortcut of whoch can then be placed on the screen.
before shutdown - click to disable
after boot up - click to enable
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
add "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments"="string"
Regards
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
given hosted exchange a thought?? (4 bucks a month or so)
profimail runs entirely from the SD card and is much better than the standard outlook email client.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Cheers David
trying profimail 3.26
Hello
I'm trying profimail 3.26 and results are not quite well.
application crash often, i found no integration with today or sense on any forum, and the design make me think to old DOS application.
Good if you need to have a backup of a mailbox on your pda but not very usefull for every day for me.
If some of you have a better idea, i'll take it.
Isnt't it possible with SK-Tools?
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
after profimail
For those who want to use something like profimail to have a mail client on sdcard with sdcard storage see rather free softwares. I found nPOPuk but there is probably many other.
BUMP.
Please, we need a solution to this. We need to be able to successfully save email, not just email attachments, to the storage card, on the HD2, with the Storage Card 2 issue.
???
As said before profimail, or nPOPuk do that ! Not with outlook mobile but this work before a better solution
Supposedly this app does it, as per line 66 on the app details screen:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com
No guarantees that it'll work though, and you may have to hard reset if it breaks something! The software is ANCIENT, might I add. Even on the support forums, the last post was Aug 2009, and the last one before that was 2008 sometime!
To be honest, I would second the idea of getting an Exchange account. MUCH easier, sync the last two weeks or month or what have you, and just use the Search Server feature (built into Outlook Mobile) to get older things.
Don't work with hd2 with french language. a try more lol
The OP is spot on.
Any number of apps and manual tweaks that used to work on other devices do not work on the HD2 and never will unless we can work out and sort the root cause.
To the best of my knowledge the issue is that something is initialising the mail store before the storage card is mounted. Because this happens the device can't find its mail store on 'storage card' and so creates it own 'storage card' in device memory. When the real card is mounted it becomes 'storage card 2'.
Like the OP I have tried disabling everything I can think of that might be causing this behaviour but to no avail. I suspect there is some sort of pre-loader for Sense that runs very early on in the device start up to prepare the device for the Sense UI, but can't prove that. However until we find out what it is and how to delay it somewhat, we aren't going to get mail on the storage card.
I have no solutions, but I can confirm the scale of the challenge!
have tried Flexmail, profimail, npopuk,... (all good rated clients) nothing able to do the job correctly.
Always unable to download all mails and attachements or to see it correctly.
Just incredible to see that in 2010 with a phone like HD2.
Softwares like opera show pretty good html and is usefull, downloading file is not too hard. Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ? The first Outlook Express on PC do better than that and is now very old.
weareborg said:
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
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Do you REALLY have that many e-mails? I just did a test, and switched my main account from "last 3 days" to "last 30 days", going from about 50 messages to 500 in 3 folders, and watched before-after memory usage, it only ate an extra 4.5MB. I'm set to HTML, 20kB and no attachments...
I mean that's just what one app takes, and less than the various caches... Don't know if you've already done it, but moving the Album cache to the card (this one can easily grow to 20-30MB) makes more sense...
rtydevine said:
Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ?
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Simply because the default one does it's job?
bad job
kilrah said:
Simply because the default one does it's job?
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Probably not for me. I need to have 2 boxes with about 2000 emails each and somme attachements. A total of 300 mb probably. Not so much for some Gb. I bought this phone for work and want use the sdcard for those emails. It's name is "windows phone" not ipod or psp or ixus. If i need that i know where to find it. A mail client (Outlook in this case) unable to store 300mb, does not it's job. Email means attachement else it is an SMS. Even when i store attachements on in the sdcard, the phone cry for memory. for information i use no music, no photos, no videos, no games.
Wow... how do you manage, sort, search, browse through 4000 e-mails on a phone???
OK, probably in that kind of use it might not do the job, but it's the first time I see someone needing it...
What you're after is an UMPC A phone's email is great for the couple of hours you're away from a proper computer, not really meant as a primary device...
Hi all, I can't believe no one found a solution on this issue so far, there are already about 5 different threads about this issue. Is no one out there having an Idea?
as I asked before: In SK-Tools, there is a menu-point: Tunup->System Memory and Speed->Messaging file\windows ---> to any other path, include the storage card.
Isn't this a part of the solution? You can download a trial-version with this point. Test it. possibly works on a HD2.
The solution is: GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT!
as far as I understand from other threads you can't get far with the SK-Tools solution because you end up having the "storage card2" issue.
@mazzarin: what do you mean with
"GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT"
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what search?