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Just got this thing the other day (O2 XDA Mini S) and am pulling my hair out with ActiveSync. A google and a look round these forums convinces me I'm not alone.
I'm now at the point where notes will sync, but Contacts and Calendar will not. This appears to be most likely because I'm not using an Exchange Server.
I give in. Can anyone advise whether this some alternative to ActiveSync that I can use to back up my contacts list? I'd hate to have to do it all over again.
I have a memory card, so adding software from that is no problem if necessary.
Thanks
You can try the backup tool Sunnysoft
in advanced mode is an option Backup PIM databases
lansalot said:
I'm now at the point where notes will sync, but Contacts and Calendar will not. This appears to be most likely because I'm not using an Exchange Server.
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Are you just trying to sync with your pc over the usb link? You don't need Exchange Server for that - it sync's with Outlook directly. Have you set up what information you want to sync in ActiveSync's Tools->options?
Another possibility for not syncing is any firewall you are running - although, if it was that, you wouldn't even get Notes to sync.
John
yup
Thanks for that John, yep I've done all I can see that I need to do. Missing Exchange was about the only thing left I could think of. I think I might uninstall Outlook and reinstall it to see if that helps. Though I *hate* having to install that POS just so I can backup some settings !
Perhaps there's somewhere within the phone that will export the various settings somewhere. Or perhaps I should dig out VS2005 and attempt to write one myself. Backing up to storage card would be the best option I think, and from a look around the .net mobile CF, it would appear to be pretty well supported.
And I had to disable Zonealarm despite having all the appropriate configurations set up to allow it. I even put 169.254.x.x in the trusted zone, to no avail.
ActiveSync is a shocking piece of software - and I know from owning other phones that there's things like MobiExplorer and MobiManager that tends to work much better than the usual manufacturer-supplied stuff.
Chak, thanks for the lead with SunnySoft.
Copy the pim.vol file from the root directory of the device. This contains all your pim info (contacts, call history, tasks, calendar). You can't really make anything out of it if you try to view it, but when you hard reset, you can just overwrite the new one and soft reset to restore everything. I copy mine to my storage card every time i add something new that has to do with pim stuff.
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Copy the pim.vol file from the root directory of the device. This contains all your pim info (contacts, call history, tasks, calendar). You can't really make anything out of it if you try to view it, but when you hard reset, you can just overwrite the new one and soft reset to restore everything. I copy mine to my storage card every time i add something new that has to do with pim stuff.
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in my case, pim.vol file is protected, so copying & replacing it after hard reset does not work. i have other workaround for backuping contacts (as my activesync with outlook simply does not work) - each contact via irda to computer. it saves contact as .vcf file that you can send to wizard back again after hard reset.
Try using total commander to get to the file.
I yust transfered the file via email inside my home WLan to the PC.....
Hey, is this a common problem for HTC devices or Windows mobile in general?
I just started searching because my calendar won't sync. (3 palm devices and 3 pda's later, I have 1,400+ contacts.)
Are there any workarounds that anyone knows?
I tried setting up the sync settings whilst the device was disconnected, but the calendar entry just disappears when I re-connect.
-Worried of Sheffield.
thanks
Thanks eva_d, I had already hit on the idea of bluetoothing all my contacts over (thankfully, there's not that many) from my nokia 6600. Luckily, the XDA didn't require my SIM to be in it during the transfer. It even took over the mini pictures I had for some of the contacts, quite smart.
But it would be some chore with more than the couple dozen I had.
I'm reading up on the windowsmobile classes in dotnet, I reckon the answer would lie in there somewhere. Writing an app in VS to back things up to some funky open format would be the ideal, even if it does just drop a directory full of VCF files for example.
Once I'm sure VS2005 is installed and working correctly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41155), I'll throw some serious effort at it.
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Thanks eva_d, I had already hit on the idea of bluetoothing all my contacts over (thankfully, there's not that many) from my nokia 6600. Luckily, the XDA didn't require my SIM to be in it during the transfer. It even took over the mini pictures I had for some of the contacts, quite smart.
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copying contacts to other handset is bit risky, because various producers are using various interpretation of .vcf file format. for instance, when i copy contact from siemens s65 to wizard, email field is always ripped off the contact and polish national characters are also absent. copying contacts to computer via irda is quite safe, however personal ringtones assigned to contact and voice dials are sacrified. all other data within a contact are still present, including contact picture.
A bit more info on the missing calendar link:-
I have one laptop using activesync V.4.1 this was where i first discovered the problem.
Just tried laptop #2 running a/sync v.3.7.1 which has an older copy of my appointments in outlook. Calendar doesn't sync to this either, so it must be something inside the MDA.
Tried to search microsoft support to find a solution, but no entries found. This seems to indicate that it is a HTC issue. I had a MDA Pro briefly sync-ed up which worked Ok. The problems are with my MDA compact running WM2003.
pim.vol not only saves the contact but also the assigned ringtone and pic. only way to do it is copy to storage card.
then after hard reset it won't let you overwrite the new one but if you rename it to pim.vol.old it lets you do that. then you can overwrite it.
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pim.vol not only saves the contact but also the assigned ringtone and pic. only way to do it is copy to storage card.
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contact pictures are NOT saved in pim.vol. when i restore contacts via irda from .vcf files on my laptop, pictures are already there.
I know this thread has moved on a bit, but I've just got my calendar to sync. again and I'm soooo relieved!
Take a look at this forum to find out how:-
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync
Look at 'Cannot get calendar to sycnhronise' and the second reply.
Backing up the Contacts with Mail2Web Live Mail Service
I basically use the mail2web live mail service, and use its exchange server as the server source in Activesync. I only choose synching Contacts with this server (but you can choose others).
This way, all my contacts are always up to date in mail2web servers, and even if I need to hard reset, I can reget all of my contacts back very quickly.
Highly recommended...
Fast
please use the search PLEASE! ....search for PPCBckpContacts.exe
damn it!
I have now (after a reset and some problems) managed to get my mail to sync properly again and my attachments to save to the storage card and open directly from my email without problems. THere is one further part of the puzzle however that I can not crack.
When I sync my device with the computer my new outlook messages appear with the attachment details on the varioII. I then have to check which attachments I want and mark them for download and sync again to actually get access to them. This means I have to sync twice for anything I need and I need to know what I might need in advance which I dont like.
Am I missing something. Can I change the settings (not techincal please) to get this to do it first time.
The attachment is too big, so it is not downloaded automaticely. In advanced options of email in active sync you can increase the size limit or remove it
I am having an intermittent problem with email attachments not downlaoding and it is totally confusing me. I have my settings so that all emails and all attachments of any size can download and some of the time this is fine but other times (like this morning) the emails will download but the attachments wont download when I prompt for them to come too. It is the same problem whether using wifi or gprs/3g as my settings are identical anyway.
Has anyone got any ideas. I am fairly certain that the attachments that wont open are ones that are large. It seems that the device is forcing emails to be attachments that weren't attachments in the first place. For example when I opened an email this morning it was blank with an attachment but when I checked my laptop and went for the same email it was a text email with an excel file attached. I didn't know what was contained in the email at all though because Ihad only been faced with an attachment that wouldn't download and it was work so luckily I was still at home.
Has anyone any ideas. I am computer and MDA literate but when it comes to registry tweaks and cooking ROMS forget it - not my thing
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Has no one any ideas on this one - it must be something simple surely.
I have the same problem with me HTC, on both wifi-gprs each time I click on the attachment to email. It reads "Attachment will download next time you connect" I can't work that out
I dont know...but maybe it could be related to memory...
If you are having this problem with "large" files or emails maybe they do not download becase there is not enought free memory for the file in your device...
Have you set the PPC to save attachments to sotrage card or they store in main memory??
has this happened when you have a lot of mails in your inbox or with very few??
I'm just guessing here but it could be a chance...
Regards;
My ActiveSynch (latest version 4.5) halted when stored memory (50MB) maxed out. On the handset's File Explorer, there is a 40MB file that, based on the date and extension (.PIM), is undoubtedly the Pocket Outlook data file. Of course, with the storage maxed out, the phone is all but useless for anything except repeated prompts to delete files.
The handset has a 2GB SD Micro card (which ActiveSynch recognizes) but I cannot find any option or any documentation for synching Outlook to the storage card. Even though I could copy the .PIM file from the handset's root directory to the storage card (using File Explorer), I cannot delete it from the root directory, either using the handset's File Explorer or from the linked computer using the ActiveSynch Explore Device (the "sharing violation warning appears whether the handset is connected to the computer or not.
I suppose a hard reset is in my future, but unless I can figure out how to synch Outlook (contacts and calendar only; I don't synch any documents or Windows media files) with the storage card, i'll be back at square one. Can you can point me in the right direction?
You can change the location where the phonestores the data to SD card see here under file locations:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
However, I stand to be corrected, but when you sync to PC I think it will continue to use the PIM file in main memory.
There is however an active sync add on called mobsync http://mobsync.en.softonic.com/pocket (freeware version) which can sync with files on the sd card - there might be some mileage in checking this out.
This would still leave you the problem of reducing the size of the PIM file in Main memory. This may be a case of entering via messaging etc and deleting entries. This has potential to go wrong so I would addvise (as is good practice anyway to do a full backup with something like spb backup first)
Mike
Thank you so much - this is the first response I have received other than mass delete Contacts on the PC to reduce the PIM.vol file size.
the suggested registry directory for changing file locations on the handheld:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\FileSyncPath
does not exist in my registry; however, it does have a directory:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\Services\Synchronization\All\MS.WinCE.Outlook\Contact
the Data associated with the Store key is:
<*Invalid*>
if I change the Data to:
\Storage Card
or
\Storage Card\Contacts
does Windows Mobile know to look for the contacts there?
Unfortunately, I think I have given you a bad steer on this one. It seems that the tweak on the general WM5 wiki page is not available for the Hermes. I am looking at this further but it looks as if the contacts in the PIM file must be available to the Hermes phone function at all times as they are required for phone services. In non phone models this would not be the case and the tweak may be available.
Am looking at this further, but it looks as though you may be stuck with reducing the file size by deleting contents as others have suggested
EDIT - additional info:
Extract from Windows Mobile Team Blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
Why don't we do more with SD cards?
A frequent question is why we don't support putting more things on storage cards. For instance, we don't allow you to store your contacts, calendar entries, or email on storage cards. (We do allow you to store attachments there, though.) The general problem is that storage cards can, by their nature, be removed from the device. Some types of data don't lend themselves to being there one second and gone the next. Sync would get very confused if it saw 300 contacts on one sync, and then only saw 10 on the next. It would certainly be possible to work out some sort of interface to allow this, but it would be pretty complicated, both to code and to use.
Things that already have the concept of sometimes being there and sometimes not, like email attachments and temporary internet files, are easier to handle on an SD card.
As with any potential feature, allowing someone to put their contacts on a storage card would require that we not do some other feature. On prioritizing SD changes, we take a lot of factors into consideration, one of which is where we see internal flash going. We've already seen phones with multiple gigabytes of internal storage. As things like that become more common, the value of doing new things on storage cards goes down. There's still value in working on SD, it's just that it's not as valuable as other things are.
See also:
http://pocketpcmauritius.blogspot.com/2007/01/final-word-about-moving-pimvol.html
Mike
ActiveSynch - Outlook file too large
Thanks - this keeps me from spinning wheels on the storage card solution (or non-solution)
do you know of any 3d party synch applications allowing you to control or filter which Outlook contacts are synched? I have 11K+ contacts and can't do a mass delete just to get a file small enough to synch with the phone's tiny on-board memory
I understand your pain my friend. However, I cannot conceive of anyones Contacts and Calendar being 40 MB as they're basically text. I suspect that your Inbox is what's clogging the works. Curious how far back your email goes to on your device ... I carry 1 month on my PDA with my attachments on my SC myself.
nope, no email - just the contacts and calendar entries. I did stumble on a partial solution, however. The original data is stored in TimeMatters, which I had to synch with Outlook before re-synching with Pocket Outlook. TimeMatters has a synch utility with works directly with Pocket Outlook, which allows me to limit the scope of the calendar items. The resulting PIM file on the handheld is "only" 30MB, permitting enough breathing room to escape the "delete file" warnings
For all practical purposes, the "delete file" warnings are useless. The file search utility (for files over 64k in size) runs for a few minutes and comes up empty. Attempts to manually move larger files in (either with File Explorer on the handheld or on the PC) to the storage card are useless.
Using most of the phone's on board memory apparently slows it to a crawl. The delay between pressing a button or typing a letter is like a Windows PC running on virtual memory; the rotating colored pie is becoming as ubiquitous as the PC hourglass
I have tried resetting, upgrading to the latest (4/2007) ROM, quitting active programs, and.. lots of rotating colored pie. Maybe the phone just needs to get used to all my contacts
How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
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How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
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11K. not all are needed on the phone but there is no way to filter
Dr Puttingham said:
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
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good news:
TM8E contains an applet to synch directly with Pocket Outlook, which generates a much smaller PIM file on the handheld.
bad news:
the direct synch is very (very, *very*) fussy and time consuming. TM will appear to crash and Task Manager will show that TM is "not responding"
good news:
After about 20 minutes, TM kicks back in and shows thousands of contacts
synchronizing to the handheld (there is a preview dialogue box; when you approve, a status bar slowly grinds to the right as each contact scrolls up and is listed as synchronizing)
bad news:
only a few of the contacts are actually on the phone.
good news:
this really reduces the size of the PIM file and resolves the performance issues listed in my earlier post
bad news:
as much fun as it is waiting for the Lexus Nexus callback (if you get impatient, get on a conference call or go to the bathroom), they are less than helpful on synching issues. In all fairness there are so many 3d party variables
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The synch does not bring a Contact's related Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc although of course you can also synch Events & ToDo's (not Matters like you can the on Blackberry and Palm OS). I strictly limit the scope of the Events & ToDo's so that only 100 or so (the next 3 month's worth) synch. Unfortunately, there is no way to filter limit the scope of the Contacts.
I could limit the fields to phone numbers and emails, but the Treos handled all of my Contacts with address and memo fields included. Searching on the Treo was almost instantaneous - no rotating colored pie as the OS churns through the search. The Treo (650) just wasn't a very good phone. Nothing's perfect, I suppose
Ok,
My aim is to save all mail (not just attachments) on The SD Card for wm6 devices specifically htc hd2
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
been there done that, the "storage card2" problem is persistent (on this device) even if it remains "storage card" after 5-6 reboots; sooner or later it is renamed "storage card2" and a new "storage card" folder is created at the root of your device where all new mail starts to get stored... :-(
the issue really is that he sd card is recognized after the registry tweaks / are executed at boot up
So, how do we make sure that the OS to recognizes SD Card first before the mail starts at boot-up or teh registry tweaks are executed
i have tried all other things like (without success)
1. disable sense,
2. use windows default theme & remove messaging plugin from today's home screen
3. place a shortcut of SD card folder in teh start-up folder
4. deleted all other items in startup folder which load at boot
5. formatted the sd card as fat 16 / fat 32 with all possible sector sizes...
u name it i have done it .. does not work..
what we need are some serious registry tweaks... anyone interested ? any suggestions ?
One suggestion i have in mind (for someone who knows how to write cab / .exe files) is to create a small program to enable and disable the following registry tweak at boot-up and shut-down a shortcut of whoch can then be placed on the screen.
before shutdown - click to disable
after boot up - click to enable
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
add "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments"="string"
Regards
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
given hosted exchange a thought?? (4 bucks a month or so)
profimail runs entirely from the SD card and is much better than the standard outlook email client.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Cheers David
trying profimail 3.26
Hello
I'm trying profimail 3.26 and results are not quite well.
application crash often, i found no integration with today or sense on any forum, and the design make me think to old DOS application.
Good if you need to have a backup of a mailbox on your pda but not very usefull for every day for me.
If some of you have a better idea, i'll take it.
Isnt't it possible with SK-Tools?
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
after profimail
For those who want to use something like profimail to have a mail client on sdcard with sdcard storage see rather free softwares. I found nPOPuk but there is probably many other.
BUMP.
Please, we need a solution to this. We need to be able to successfully save email, not just email attachments, to the storage card, on the HD2, with the Storage Card 2 issue.
???
As said before profimail, or nPOPuk do that ! Not with outlook mobile but this work before a better solution
Supposedly this app does it, as per line 66 on the app details screen:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com
No guarantees that it'll work though, and you may have to hard reset if it breaks something! The software is ANCIENT, might I add. Even on the support forums, the last post was Aug 2009, and the last one before that was 2008 sometime!
To be honest, I would second the idea of getting an Exchange account. MUCH easier, sync the last two weeks or month or what have you, and just use the Search Server feature (built into Outlook Mobile) to get older things.
Don't work with hd2 with french language. a try more lol
The OP is spot on.
Any number of apps and manual tweaks that used to work on other devices do not work on the HD2 and never will unless we can work out and sort the root cause.
To the best of my knowledge the issue is that something is initialising the mail store before the storage card is mounted. Because this happens the device can't find its mail store on 'storage card' and so creates it own 'storage card' in device memory. When the real card is mounted it becomes 'storage card 2'.
Like the OP I have tried disabling everything I can think of that might be causing this behaviour but to no avail. I suspect there is some sort of pre-loader for Sense that runs very early on in the device start up to prepare the device for the Sense UI, but can't prove that. However until we find out what it is and how to delay it somewhat, we aren't going to get mail on the storage card.
I have no solutions, but I can confirm the scale of the challenge!
have tried Flexmail, profimail, npopuk,... (all good rated clients) nothing able to do the job correctly.
Always unable to download all mails and attachements or to see it correctly.
Just incredible to see that in 2010 with a phone like HD2.
Softwares like opera show pretty good html and is usefull, downloading file is not too hard. Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ? The first Outlook Express on PC do better than that and is now very old.
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I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
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Do you REALLY have that many e-mails? I just did a test, and switched my main account from "last 3 days" to "last 30 days", going from about 50 messages to 500 in 3 folders, and watched before-after memory usage, it only ate an extra 4.5MB. I'm set to HTML, 20kB and no attachments...
I mean that's just what one app takes, and less than the various caches... Don't know if you've already done it, but moving the Album cache to the card (this one can easily grow to 20-30MB) makes more sense...
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Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ?
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Simply because the default one does it's job?
bad job
kilrah said:
Simply because the default one does it's job?
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Probably not for me. I need to have 2 boxes with about 2000 emails each and somme attachements. A total of 300 mb probably. Not so much for some Gb. I bought this phone for work and want use the sdcard for those emails. It's name is "windows phone" not ipod or psp or ixus. If i need that i know where to find it. A mail client (Outlook in this case) unable to store 300mb, does not it's job. Email means attachement else it is an SMS. Even when i store attachements on in the sdcard, the phone cry for memory. for information i use no music, no photos, no videos, no games.
Wow... how do you manage, sort, search, browse through 4000 e-mails on a phone???
OK, probably in that kind of use it might not do the job, but it's the first time I see someone needing it...
What you're after is an UMPC A phone's email is great for the couple of hours you're away from a proper computer, not really meant as a primary device...
Hi all, I can't believe no one found a solution on this issue so far, there are already about 5 different threads about this issue. Is no one out there having an Idea?
as I asked before: In SK-Tools, there is a menu-point: Tunup->System Memory and Speed->Messaging file\windows ---> to any other path, include the storage card.
Isn't this a part of the solution? You can download a trial-version with this point. Test it. possibly works on a HD2.
The solution is: GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT!
as far as I understand from other threads you can't get far with the SK-Tools solution because you end up having the "storage card2" issue.
@mazzarin: what do you mean with
"GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT"
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what search?