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Hi,
When looking at 3rd party apps to run on my Universal you often have the option to use either a PPC version of the software or a Smartphone version - which one should I go for?
In my mind the the Universal is a bit of both so difficult to decide.
PocketPC, but remember that it runs Windows Mobile 5, not 2002/2003/2003se. Not all apps are WM5 compatible.
Thanks, I'm slowly getting to grips with it all :lol:
Now all I need to do is work out how to shift mail over to my SD card and I can stop playing and actually start using this thing :lol:
When you say "shift mail over" what exactly do you mean?
You can back up your emails to Outlook using ActiveSync, but that goes to the desktop. From there you can make them .EML files and move them back (I'd prefer to put them into text files for this.
Otherwise maybe you mean the attachments from emails?
Hi,
I want to monitor 3-4 email accounts on my Exchange server. One via standard pocket outlook and then three others via IMAP and ideally would like to store a couple of months of messages (including attachments) on each account so instead of storing the messages on the phones memory I am trying to find a way of moving them to be stored on the SD card.
I have done lots of searches but can't solve this one so I am hoping someone can walk me through it.
I have a 2GB storage card and I would really like to sync directly to it. It doesn't really matter for My DOcuments and bits and bobs as they are not big and I can always move them but the probelm is email.
I like to keep my outlook synchronised and certain folders synced at all times but unlike the MDAIII the Vatio II can't do this as the memory is too low. I need a way to store the attachments on the card and be able to access them seemlessly or to just sync directly with the card (ideally).
I have looked at the link for mobilesync but it doesn;t download properly and I can't get it to work. If anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it. I am not up to tweeking registries etc. I am IT literate but not a boffin!
thanks
If you go to email, email options, memory tab - you can select to store attachments to to storagecard. It works fine with incoming email attachments - not totally sure about outlook emails but its probably worth a try. Let me know the result
There is a setting in Mobile Outlook that allows you to store attachments on the storage card. Did you try that? Within Messaging it is Tools/Options/Storage tab
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My device now isn't syncing at all. THe laptop is connecting as it is charging the device but it is seeing it as a guest and not syncing - help
oh dear
I have done this and it is now syncing fine but I still can't access teh attahment s when reading my mail because presumably it is not accessing my storage card by default. How do I set it to read attachments from there?
I don't want to ask the obvious but in activesync have you unchecked the boxes in options / email that limit file size or limit the download of attachments? If these are still checked it could be your problem
My ActiveSynch (latest version 4.5) halted when stored memory (50MB) maxed out. On the handset's File Explorer, there is a 40MB file that, based on the date and extension (.PIM), is undoubtedly the Pocket Outlook data file. Of course, with the storage maxed out, the phone is all but useless for anything except repeated prompts to delete files.
The handset has a 2GB SD Micro card (which ActiveSynch recognizes) but I cannot find any option or any documentation for synching Outlook to the storage card. Even though I could copy the .PIM file from the handset's root directory to the storage card (using File Explorer), I cannot delete it from the root directory, either using the handset's File Explorer or from the linked computer using the ActiveSynch Explore Device (the "sharing violation warning appears whether the handset is connected to the computer or not.
I suppose a hard reset is in my future, but unless I can figure out how to synch Outlook (contacts and calendar only; I don't synch any documents or Windows media files) with the storage card, i'll be back at square one. Can you can point me in the right direction?
You can change the location where the phonestores the data to SD card see here under file locations:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
However, I stand to be corrected, but when you sync to PC I think it will continue to use the PIM file in main memory.
There is however an active sync add on called mobsync http://mobsync.en.softonic.com/pocket (freeware version) which can sync with files on the sd card - there might be some mileage in checking this out.
This would still leave you the problem of reducing the size of the PIM file in Main memory. This may be a case of entering via messaging etc and deleting entries. This has potential to go wrong so I would addvise (as is good practice anyway to do a full backup with something like spb backup first)
Mike
Thank you so much - this is the first response I have received other than mass delete Contacts on the PC to reduce the PIM.vol file size.
the suggested registry directory for changing file locations on the handheld:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\FileSyncPath
does not exist in my registry; however, it does have a directory:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\Services\Synchronization\All\MS.WinCE.Outlook\Contact
the Data associated with the Store key is:
<*Invalid*>
if I change the Data to:
\Storage Card
or
\Storage Card\Contacts
does Windows Mobile know to look for the contacts there?
Unfortunately, I think I have given you a bad steer on this one. It seems that the tweak on the general WM5 wiki page is not available for the Hermes. I am looking at this further but it looks as if the contacts in the PIM file must be available to the Hermes phone function at all times as they are required for phone services. In non phone models this would not be the case and the tweak may be available.
Am looking at this further, but it looks as though you may be stuck with reducing the file size by deleting contents as others have suggested
EDIT - additional info:
Extract from Windows Mobile Team Blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
Why don't we do more with SD cards?
A frequent question is why we don't support putting more things on storage cards. For instance, we don't allow you to store your contacts, calendar entries, or email on storage cards. (We do allow you to store attachments there, though.) The general problem is that storage cards can, by their nature, be removed from the device. Some types of data don't lend themselves to being there one second and gone the next. Sync would get very confused if it saw 300 contacts on one sync, and then only saw 10 on the next. It would certainly be possible to work out some sort of interface to allow this, but it would be pretty complicated, both to code and to use.
Things that already have the concept of sometimes being there and sometimes not, like email attachments and temporary internet files, are easier to handle on an SD card.
As with any potential feature, allowing someone to put their contacts on a storage card would require that we not do some other feature. On prioritizing SD changes, we take a lot of factors into consideration, one of which is where we see internal flash going. We've already seen phones with multiple gigabytes of internal storage. As things like that become more common, the value of doing new things on storage cards goes down. There's still value in working on SD, it's just that it's not as valuable as other things are.
See also:
http://pocketpcmauritius.blogspot.com/2007/01/final-word-about-moving-pimvol.html
Mike
ActiveSynch - Outlook file too large
Thanks - this keeps me from spinning wheels on the storage card solution (or non-solution)
do you know of any 3d party synch applications allowing you to control or filter which Outlook contacts are synched? I have 11K+ contacts and can't do a mass delete just to get a file small enough to synch with the phone's tiny on-board memory
I understand your pain my friend. However, I cannot conceive of anyones Contacts and Calendar being 40 MB as they're basically text. I suspect that your Inbox is what's clogging the works. Curious how far back your email goes to on your device ... I carry 1 month on my PDA with my attachments on my SC myself.
nope, no email - just the contacts and calendar entries. I did stumble on a partial solution, however. The original data is stored in TimeMatters, which I had to synch with Outlook before re-synching with Pocket Outlook. TimeMatters has a synch utility with works directly with Pocket Outlook, which allows me to limit the scope of the calendar items. The resulting PIM file on the handheld is "only" 30MB, permitting enough breathing room to escape the "delete file" warnings
For all practical purposes, the "delete file" warnings are useless. The file search utility (for files over 64k in size) runs for a few minutes and comes up empty. Attempts to manually move larger files in (either with File Explorer on the handheld or on the PC) to the storage card are useless.
Using most of the phone's on board memory apparently slows it to a crawl. The delay between pressing a button or typing a letter is like a Windows PC running on virtual memory; the rotating colored pie is becoming as ubiquitous as the PC hourglass
I have tried resetting, upgrading to the latest (4/2007) ROM, quitting active programs, and.. lots of rotating colored pie. Maybe the phone just needs to get used to all my contacts
How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
mikechannon said:
How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
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11K. not all are needed on the phone but there is no way to filter
Dr Puttingham said:
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
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good news:
TM8E contains an applet to synch directly with Pocket Outlook, which generates a much smaller PIM file on the handheld.
bad news:
the direct synch is very (very, *very*) fussy and time consuming. TM will appear to crash and Task Manager will show that TM is "not responding"
good news:
After about 20 minutes, TM kicks back in and shows thousands of contacts
synchronizing to the handheld (there is a preview dialogue box; when you approve, a status bar slowly grinds to the right as each contact scrolls up and is listed as synchronizing)
bad news:
only a few of the contacts are actually on the phone.
good news:
this really reduces the size of the PIM file and resolves the performance issues listed in my earlier post
bad news:
as much fun as it is waiting for the Lexus Nexus callback (if you get impatient, get on a conference call or go to the bathroom), they are less than helpful on synching issues. In all fairness there are so many 3d party variables
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The synch does not bring a Contact's related Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc although of course you can also synch Events & ToDo's (not Matters like you can the on Blackberry and Palm OS). I strictly limit the scope of the Events & ToDo's so that only 100 or so (the next 3 month's worth) synch. Unfortunately, there is no way to filter limit the scope of the Contacts.
I could limit the fields to phone numbers and emails, but the Treos handled all of my Contacts with address and memo fields included. Searching on the Treo was almost instantaneous - no rotating colored pie as the OS churns through the search. The Treo (650) just wasn't a very good phone. Nothing's perfect, I suppose
Ok,
My aim is to save all mail (not just attachments) on The SD Card for wm6 devices specifically htc hd2
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
been there done that, the "storage card2" problem is persistent (on this device) even if it remains "storage card" after 5-6 reboots; sooner or later it is renamed "storage card2" and a new "storage card" folder is created at the root of your device where all new mail starts to get stored... :-(
the issue really is that he sd card is recognized after the registry tweaks / are executed at boot up
So, how do we make sure that the OS to recognizes SD Card first before the mail starts at boot-up or teh registry tweaks are executed
i have tried all other things like (without success)
1. disable sense,
2. use windows default theme & remove messaging plugin from today's home screen
3. place a shortcut of SD card folder in teh start-up folder
4. deleted all other items in startup folder which load at boot
5. formatted the sd card as fat 16 / fat 32 with all possible sector sizes...
u name it i have done it .. does not work..
what we need are some serious registry tweaks... anyone interested ? any suggestions ?
One suggestion i have in mind (for someone who knows how to write cab / .exe files) is to create a small program to enable and disable the following registry tweak at boot-up and shut-down a shortcut of whoch can then be placed on the screen.
before shutdown - click to disable
after boot up - click to enable
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
add "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments"="string"
Regards
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
given hosted exchange a thought?? (4 bucks a month or so)
profimail runs entirely from the SD card and is much better than the standard outlook email client.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Cheers David
trying profimail 3.26
Hello
I'm trying profimail 3.26 and results are not quite well.
application crash often, i found no integration with today or sense on any forum, and the design make me think to old DOS application.
Good if you need to have a backup of a mailbox on your pda but not very usefull for every day for me.
If some of you have a better idea, i'll take it.
Isnt't it possible with SK-Tools?
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
after profimail
For those who want to use something like profimail to have a mail client on sdcard with sdcard storage see rather free softwares. I found nPOPuk but there is probably many other.
BUMP.
Please, we need a solution to this. We need to be able to successfully save email, not just email attachments, to the storage card, on the HD2, with the Storage Card 2 issue.
???
As said before profimail, or nPOPuk do that ! Not with outlook mobile but this work before a better solution
Supposedly this app does it, as per line 66 on the app details screen:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com
No guarantees that it'll work though, and you may have to hard reset if it breaks something! The software is ANCIENT, might I add. Even on the support forums, the last post was Aug 2009, and the last one before that was 2008 sometime!
To be honest, I would second the idea of getting an Exchange account. MUCH easier, sync the last two weeks or month or what have you, and just use the Search Server feature (built into Outlook Mobile) to get older things.
Don't work with hd2 with french language. a try more lol
The OP is spot on.
Any number of apps and manual tweaks that used to work on other devices do not work on the HD2 and never will unless we can work out and sort the root cause.
To the best of my knowledge the issue is that something is initialising the mail store before the storage card is mounted. Because this happens the device can't find its mail store on 'storage card' and so creates it own 'storage card' in device memory. When the real card is mounted it becomes 'storage card 2'.
Like the OP I have tried disabling everything I can think of that might be causing this behaviour but to no avail. I suspect there is some sort of pre-loader for Sense that runs very early on in the device start up to prepare the device for the Sense UI, but can't prove that. However until we find out what it is and how to delay it somewhat, we aren't going to get mail on the storage card.
I have no solutions, but I can confirm the scale of the challenge!
have tried Flexmail, profimail, npopuk,... (all good rated clients) nothing able to do the job correctly.
Always unable to download all mails and attachements or to see it correctly.
Just incredible to see that in 2010 with a phone like HD2.
Softwares like opera show pretty good html and is usefull, downloading file is not too hard. Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ? The first Outlook Express on PC do better than that and is now very old.
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I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
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Do you REALLY have that many e-mails? I just did a test, and switched my main account from "last 3 days" to "last 30 days", going from about 50 messages to 500 in 3 folders, and watched before-after memory usage, it only ate an extra 4.5MB. I'm set to HTML, 20kB and no attachments...
I mean that's just what one app takes, and less than the various caches... Don't know if you've already done it, but moving the Album cache to the card (this one can easily grow to 20-30MB) makes more sense...
rtydevine said:
Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ?
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Simply because the default one does it's job?
bad job
kilrah said:
Simply because the default one does it's job?
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Probably not for me. I need to have 2 boxes with about 2000 emails each and somme attachements. A total of 300 mb probably. Not so much for some Gb. I bought this phone for work and want use the sdcard for those emails. It's name is "windows phone" not ipod or psp or ixus. If i need that i know where to find it. A mail client (Outlook in this case) unable to store 300mb, does not it's job. Email means attachement else it is an SMS. Even when i store attachements on in the sdcard, the phone cry for memory. for information i use no music, no photos, no videos, no games.
Wow... how do you manage, sort, search, browse through 4000 e-mails on a phone???
OK, probably in that kind of use it might not do the job, but it's the first time I see someone needing it...
What you're after is an UMPC A phone's email is great for the couple of hours you're away from a proper computer, not really meant as a primary device...
Hi all, I can't believe no one found a solution on this issue so far, there are already about 5 different threads about this issue. Is no one out there having an Idea?
as I asked before: In SK-Tools, there is a menu-point: Tunup->System Memory and Speed->Messaging file\windows ---> to any other path, include the storage card.
Isn't this a part of the solution? You can download a trial-version with this point. Test it. possibly works on a HD2.
The solution is: GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT!
as far as I understand from other threads you can't get far with the SK-Tools solution because you end up having the "storage card2" issue.
@mazzarin: what do you mean with
"GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT"
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what search?
I searched the Leo forum and couldn't find any answers
I'm having a not so cool problem with my contacts and people folders..
Everybody has a double entry I had the same problem before and after installing a new ROM, so the installation might not be the problem afterall. I sync my Leo with Windows Mobile Device Center and with Microsoft My Phone. What can I do ? How can I return to just one entry for everybody ?
10x all in advance
PS : I think I'm doing something, cause with my Fujitsu Siemens N520 - Windows Mobile 5 ( I dont know for sure ) I clearly remember having once the same problem
What view?
Are you viewing both sim & contacts? Need to set to view 1 or the other, not both. I view contact, it shows more info..
I had the same problem after installing new rom and syncing with my pc.
There are manual ways of fixing this, but I think the easiest way is to use Microsoft My Phone. It has an option to check for duplicate contacts and delete them.
But be careful not to be left with empty contact list on your phone. Like I did once... Hopefully I had synced my contacts on my office computer.
Try this...Go to - Phone/All People/Menu/View/ select Contacts or SIM
I use direct push from my exchange server and i had this when sycing to my pc using activesync for the first time. The problem is caused by the phone telling the pc that the contacts are more upto date that the pc's. To get around this change the activesync options to "pc overwirtes the device" (it's not exactly written like that but i guess your smart enough to figure it out) and delete all the duplicate contacts from the phone and pc. You won't get it again. If you are seeing the contacts from your sim card should notice the icon for them is differnet. If this is the case then follow the instructions given above to disable sim contact viewing.
There is free software to cope with this prob on freewarepocketpc and also in SKTools or PocketMechanic.
Del doubles on phone (check bef proceed), clear contacts complelety on PC and Myphone and then resync. Worked well for me.
use the attached, works a treat on the HD2.it can be used to remove duplicate calender entires too. Thanks to the developer, cant remember where I got the cab from.
I use dupededupe.
Work very well and is very easy.
Only 72KB
Thanks all for the responses
Sorry for posting so late, I was away for a couple of days
Eventually, I used My Phone - I entered the site, checked for duplicates - and deleted all the duplicates, and afterall, I synced my phone. Fortunately, it worked fine
10x again, Ive just downloaded the little software and I'll keep them if the problem reoccurs .
10x again!
Good luck all!