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Hey there,
This is my first post. I'm a mac user (no snide comments please). I just got the MDA a few weeks ago, and just can't figure out if it's worth it for me to keep this thing. It surfs the web like sh**. Slower than a snail. I'm on the T-Mobile GPRS system, which is supposed to be really fast.
I've been reading a lot about the ability to MOD my MDA. But if i can't sync the sucker to my Mac, how can i get the files necassary to MOD the MDA? Let me add that i have NO idea how to MOD the MDA. Things like changing the THEME, the font color, etc.
Thanks for reading this post.....
Whalien
There is no official support for the Mac on any Windows Mobile device, but there are third party tools out there. The Missing Sync (2.5 beta) will sync to Windows Mobile 5 devices. It works nicely and syncs with iCal, Address Book, Entourage, etc. The beta only syncs via Bluetooth, but if you get the USBSwitch tool and switch the mode to Serial, Activesync via USB will work as well.
If all you want to do is send files to your MDA, all you need is OS X's built in tools. Pair the MDA with your Mac and use the Bluetooth file transfer utility to send files. You can also install from CAB files this way; send them to your phone and run it there.
What Mac do you have? If you have an Intel one, you can install Parallels Desktop, which provides a virtualization environment for running Windows inside OS X. They have rudimentary USB Support, but it's getting better. You can also install Boot Camp and boot to Windows when you need to sync.
See there you are with alot of options, dont give up on the MDA yet
got O2 Atom as well as missing sync 2.5. MS froze during connection
I too love my Mac and... well, like my Wizard. But I'd have real reservations about keeping the Wizard if you don't at least have regular accesss to a Windows thing. (An Intel Mac dual-booting would work, of course; Virtual PC mostly works too.)
Here's how I coordinate the Mac and the Wizard:
1) You really do need to flash the ROM, and you need a PC to do it. (I didn't risk this on Virtual PC, but it might work.) I grabbed an old Windows 2000 laptop, put ActiveSync on it, and it works fine. Run LokiWiz or another program to CID and SIM-unlock the phone, then put the newest customized 2.21 USA T-Mobile ROM on it. It makes EVERYTHING better - I get 3 bars where I used to get 0, you get push e-mail support, etc. But if you don't have access to a PC, you can't do this, and you're stuck with the terrible ROM T-Mobile gives you.
You also need a PC to install some software that doesn't come in a .cab installer, though sometimes you can just launch the installer in Virtual PC and grab the .cab file it unpacks and hand-install that.
2) You can pair the Wizard with the Mac through Bluetooth and use it (a) as an EDGE modem and (b) to push files. Use Bluetooth File Exchange, always dismiss the warning that the type of file isn't supported, and the file will push to your Wizard. This is a good way to install programs that come in .CABs. The other way, of course, is to get an SD reader and mount your MiniSD card.
3) There's a great little shareware utility called SyncTunes that will sync an iTunes playlist and your podcasts to an SD card (or MiniSD, of course). I mount my SD card and use that to sync music fairly regularly. iPhoto can also pull photos and videos off the card. Of course. I mean, of course it Just Works.
4) Although it's not as smooth as an iPod with video, non-protected video files prepared for the iPod work pretty well. I use the free iSquint to convert, and play back with TCPMP (with the AAC plug-in).
5) Finally, syncing. I haven't bothered trying Missing Sync, and don't expect to, because you don't need to.
Just make sure you have an Exchange account. If you have one for your main e-mail account, great; if not, get one through mail2web.com. (You might need to get the $2/month rather than the free one for all of this to work.) I'll assume you also have Entourage (the Mac equivalent of Outlook in MS office). Make sure you install the latest Entourage service patch.
That patch allows Entourage to sync with Address Book and iCal. So use Entourage to sync your Exchange account with your Mac information. Then use ActiveSync over-the-air to push all that stuff onto your Wizard. (I.e., configure an ActiveSync server on your Wizard.) Magically, all your Address Book and iCal stuff is there! And, if you do it right, changes on the handheld should sync back to iCal eventually as well (albeit always in the Entourage category).
Hope that's helpful. I'll keep an eye on this thread if any of that didn't make sense, or my fellow Mac faithful are welcome to message me.
As much as I've used Missing Sync in the past for other devices, it just doesn't work well with the Wizard. Too many problems. I also us it with my Mac all the time and I have an account with 4martphone.com. The nice thing is you can stay in sync without actually having to connect and sync (which i'd forget to do all the time). I use Entourage to sync with that Exchange account, then I configured Entourage to sync with OS X's databases (address book, ical, etc). My only wish now is a simple app for my phone that will let me mount the card on my mac as if it were a USB drive.
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monkey_42 thanks for the DETAILED post. it's so good to finally get some response to my questions concerning the MDA and my MAC. so far, i've only been able to bluetooth some apps to the phone and they seems to be running fine, SPB weather and AGILE messanger. aside that, i'm scared to do the ROM update. read loads of bad reports and issues people have been having. but you're a mac guy so that sooths my concerns. but back to the main issue, how the heck to i get the stuff on the computer. we havea PC at work. i suppose i'll update the ROM the way you mention. thanks again.
T-Mobile claims that they're working on fixing the CHAT issues they're having with the MDA. So at this point, their OZ app doesn't work. They gave me 50 mins extra this month to compensate. Thanks for nothing. But AGILE does work.
sounds like Entourage is the only way to SYNC my Mac to the MDA. So does that mean MAIL is out? i've been using that app for years now. i'd hate to have to give it up. any idea if there are mac folk out there working on any of these issues? it's such a pain to have to deal with a PC.....i know i now own on....time to learn how to deal.
thanks for the reply's guys. l'm hoping this will start more dialog concerning the mac and the mda.
cheers,
whalien
card reader
dma....didnt' mean to leave you out in my last response. i too wish the mac would recognize the miniSD when i plug it in via USB cable. no luck either.
is there a mac forum we can contact about this? everyone on this is just PC. i have no idea what they're all talking about. wish i was more PC fluent.
cheers,
whalien
MDA Working as Modem on a Mac
I was wondering if anyone had a way to use tthe mda as a modem on a mac using bluetooth and or usb? Thanks
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i too wish the mac would recognize the miniSD when i plug it in via USB cable. no luck either.
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I've used WM5torage to mount the miniSD on my G4 iMac. Works pretty well with OSX, but I had problems with OS 9. Search the forum or Google for a link.
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Seems I was mistaken and WM5torage doesn't in fact work on my Mac. I must have used my card reader (which is also oblong and silver) to mount the miniSD card. Sorry if I've misled anyone with this posting.
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There's also Softick CardExport II which does the same thing, although you have to pay for this. (They wouldn't let me migrate my Palm licence, so I'm not too happy with them.)
Both apps work by emulating the USB mass storage interface over USB, which is the same way that most modern external USB hard disks work.
HTH
sounds like Entourage is the only way to SYNC my Mac to the MDA. So does that mean MAIL is out? i've been using that app for years now. i'd hate to have to give it up. any idea if there are mac folk out there working on any of these issues? it's such a pain to have to deal with a PC.....i know i now own on....time to learn how to deal.
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I don't think I know what you mean by syncing mail with the OS X Mail.app. You sync mail with your server, not with your desktop mail client. What is your mail coming from? If it's coming from an Exchange server, you sync with that; ditto if it's coming from a POP server. Who's your mail account with - yahoo? gmail? your office? That determines how you check mail on the Wizard, not what program you use to check that same account on the Mac.
When I wrote about Entourage above, that was as a way of syncing tasks/contacts/calendar with an Exchange server. I assume that if that's working for you, you're just checing Exchange mail with Mail.app. If that's the case, just set up your Wizard to ActiveSync with the Exchange server and all will be well.
If that's not the situation, please explain better what you mean by syncing mail with Mail.app, and we'll see what we can do here.
I'm using Missing Sync 2.5 alpha 10 release. I have just found USBswitch which works great.
I can dual boot windows on my intel iMac, but syncing with outlook is not great - it seems to miss the last week or two's appointments.
I haven't tried my windows laptop for outlook - maybe that would work better.
I sync with iCal & Address Book. It won't sync with iCal, but if I enter all my appointments in iCal & let the Mac overwrite my MDA Vario, then all is ok.
Address book seems to sync properly.
Mounting the Vario works in 2.5a10, but unmounting seems to lock up the iMac every time, so it is a last resort.
I'm not upgrading to the US T mobile ROM. everything will be wrong for me in the UK.
I'm contemplating using the imate Rom 2.17 wwe version. What benefits will it give me over my 1.6.2.4 UK T mobile ROM?
And how will I get back all my T mobile stiings for the UK such as GPRS/voicemail/SMS/MMS etc.
syncing with the mac
hey Monkey_42
you wrote:
I don't think I know what you mean by syncing mail with the OS X Mail.app. You sync mail with your server, not with your desktop mail client. What is your mail coming from? If it's coming from an Exchange server, you sync with that; ditto if it's coming from a POP server. Who's your mail account with - yahoo? gmail? your office? That determines how you check mail on the Wizard, not what program you use to check that same account on the Mac.
i appologize for not being more specific. i do use my work email's server, and it pushes my emails to me no problem. the issue i'm having is that i'm trying to become a more appointment accurate indivdual. i figured the best way to do this was by enlisting a smartphone in my everyday routine. seeing that i am a MAC user, i was hoping to include my address book and my ical on my phone, and visa versa. i enter appointments and address directly to the phone most of the time, but sometimes that's tedious and then there's no way to get it on my MAC. when i had a PALM PILOT years ago, i could utilize the PALM software to sync the info to and from my old device, thus backing up any data i had just entered on my phone to my computer.
with the new MDA, there's no way for me to do this. i have seen the MISSING SYNC app out there. but is it worth it for me to buy it? just seems like there's got to be a way to get my phone and my computer on the same page. without spending another $80.00 i'm new to the organizing routine and i'd like to be sure i'm going about it the most efficient way so i can build on a good routine from MDA to MAC and MAC to MDA.
thanks again for the reply. might i ask if you've updated your ROM? and what other things have you modified on your device? i'd like to change my TODAY colors and layout. any suggestions?
cheers,
whalien
whalien -
to change the theme: start-settings-today to change the theme.
to change the way the soft buttons work in Today : start-settings-soft key
to change buttons: start-settings-buttons
to change the menu in today: start-settings-menu.
i.e explore your device!
I have done lots of searches but can't solve this one so I am hoping someone can walk me through it.
I have a 2GB storage card and I would really like to sync directly to it. It doesn't really matter for My DOcuments and bits and bobs as they are not big and I can always move them but the probelm is email.
I like to keep my outlook synchronised and certain folders synced at all times but unlike the MDAIII the Vatio II can't do this as the memory is too low. I need a way to store the attachments on the card and be able to access them seemlessly or to just sync directly with the card (ideally).
I have looked at the link for mobilesync but it doesn;t download properly and I can't get it to work. If anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it. I am not up to tweeking registries etc. I am IT literate but not a boffin!
thanks
If you go to email, email options, memory tab - you can select to store attachments to to storagecard. It works fine with incoming email attachments - not totally sure about outlook emails but its probably worth a try. Let me know the result
There is a setting in Mobile Outlook that allows you to store attachments on the storage card. Did you try that? Within Messaging it is Tools/Options/Storage tab
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My device now isn't syncing at all. THe laptop is connecting as it is charging the device but it is seeing it as a guest and not syncing - help
oh dear
I have done this and it is now syncing fine but I still can't access teh attahment s when reading my mail because presumably it is not accessing my storage card by default. How do I set it to read attachments from there?
I don't want to ask the obvious but in activesync have you unchecked the boxes in options / email that limit file size or limit the download of attachments? If these are still checked it could be your problem
hi, i wish to sync my contact list to my computer without using outlook, im looking for a software look like palm desktop... any 1 have idea???
ahsin said:
hi, i wish to sync my contact list to my computer without using outlook, im looking for a software look like palm desktop... any 1 have idea???
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Because or requirements at my job, we don't use Outlook. We use SyncML to sync contacts and calendar events with our internal server. Really nice being able to sync without hooking ot a computer and anyplace you have GPRS / WiFi access.
Here's a post where I put some info and links about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1159992&postcount=4
i need an exactly same like palm desktop to sync my contact and calender when sync with usb cable
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any 1 have third party software that can sync contact to desktop to view and edit??
i have try uninstall outlook 2003 and activesync 4.5 many time, and the result remain the same
I have had the ActiveSync problem since 10/2006 and have not found a resolution yet. I have posted on this forum, tried all suggestions and tried everything except a Hard Reset. I still cannot get my Desktop or Laptop to recognize my MDA via ActiveSync even though my Desktop and Laptop recognize my MDA. I have asked for 3rd party software to update my Outlook address book and calendar and have not found anything. I have even asked if there is software to update/change the MDA PIM.VOL file via a desktop or laptop. Still no luck. I have researched this out and checked all possible sites. NO LUCK. I still have not given up. I continue to look daily for a solution other than a Hard Reset.
So, you are not alone. There are many of us out there. ActiveSync is a very poor application. Maybe someday we will find something to use instead of AS. The only think that is missing in the AS is the last 'S'.
Hey friends,
I dont know if this reply is useful for you. I am so new to this forum. I am using a Motorola Mpx220, but gonna get my Cingular 8125 within a couple of days. Anyways, when I was syncing my Mpx, I had the same problem. The solution I found out was(after a long research), while the phone is still connected to the computer, go to Start -> Accessories -> Modem link. In that "USB" connection, make it active and then deactivate. As soon as you do this your active sync will detect the phone and it will sync smoothly.
I have no idea why is it happening like this nor I dont know if it works with MDA coz my Mpx220 is running on WM 2003 SE. I can only check WM 5 after I get my 8125. If this reply help you guys in anyways, please let me know.
Thanks mates.....
Jish
So there is no third party "phone manager" like for example Oxygen Phone Manager for Symbian phones ?
Contacts backup without outlook
Try " Jeyo Mobile Companion" . Google for it. It can save the contacts + call log as well as SMS on your comp. You can restore/ update the it any time It doesnt sync though. Just use it for back up purposes. Very hand. You still need to connect that phone to the comp. and AS to recognize your device.
Trust this helps
I assume that I can backup my PIM.VOL file on my 2Gb Storage Card. I have not had to reinstall the PIM.VOL file so I don't know if it really will work. However, I still would like to find an application that will allow me to update/change my Contacts and Calendar without using ActiveSync. Bottom line, why can't we find something that can do this without using AS since we are having problems on using AS? I have used Palms since day 1 and other things without as much problems as AS.
asctony said:
I assume that I can backup my PIM.VOL file on my 2Gb Storage Card. I have not had to reinstall the PIM.VOL file so I don't know if it really will work. However, I still would like to find an application that will allow me to update/change my Contacts and Calendar without using ActiveSync. Bottom line, why can't we find something that can do this without using AS since we are having problems on using AS? I have used Palms since day 1 and other things without as much problems as AS.
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asctony,
AFAIK, you still need AS to connect the PPC to any PC ( I cud be wrong). What you can do is to set AS not to sync your contacts and others and use another 3p software to update / modify contatcts. The prog - Jeyo mobile companion does just that + back up your SMS too. Which is very crucial, in many cases as they cannot be backed up through the regular way.
My ActiveSynch (latest version 4.5) halted when stored memory (50MB) maxed out. On the handset's File Explorer, there is a 40MB file that, based on the date and extension (.PIM), is undoubtedly the Pocket Outlook data file. Of course, with the storage maxed out, the phone is all but useless for anything except repeated prompts to delete files.
The handset has a 2GB SD Micro card (which ActiveSynch recognizes) but I cannot find any option or any documentation for synching Outlook to the storage card. Even though I could copy the .PIM file from the handset's root directory to the storage card (using File Explorer), I cannot delete it from the root directory, either using the handset's File Explorer or from the linked computer using the ActiveSynch Explore Device (the "sharing violation warning appears whether the handset is connected to the computer or not.
I suppose a hard reset is in my future, but unless I can figure out how to synch Outlook (contacts and calendar only; I don't synch any documents or Windows media files) with the storage card, i'll be back at square one. Can you can point me in the right direction?
You can change the location where the phonestores the data to SD card see here under file locations:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
However, I stand to be corrected, but when you sync to PC I think it will continue to use the PIM file in main memory.
There is however an active sync add on called mobsync http://mobsync.en.softonic.com/pocket (freeware version) which can sync with files on the sd card - there might be some mileage in checking this out.
This would still leave you the problem of reducing the size of the PIM file in Main memory. This may be a case of entering via messaging etc and deleting entries. This has potential to go wrong so I would addvise (as is good practice anyway to do a full backup with something like spb backup first)
Mike
Thank you so much - this is the first response I have received other than mass delete Contacts on the PC to reduce the PIM.vol file size.
the suggested registry directory for changing file locations on the handheld:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\FileSyncPath
does not exist in my registry; however, it does have a directory:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\Services\Synchronization\All\MS.WinCE.Outlook\Contact
the Data associated with the Store key is:
<*Invalid*>
if I change the Data to:
\Storage Card
or
\Storage Card\Contacts
does Windows Mobile know to look for the contacts there?
Unfortunately, I think I have given you a bad steer on this one. It seems that the tweak on the general WM5 wiki page is not available for the Hermes. I am looking at this further but it looks as if the contacts in the PIM file must be available to the Hermes phone function at all times as they are required for phone services. In non phone models this would not be the case and the tweak may be available.
Am looking at this further, but it looks as though you may be stuck with reducing the file size by deleting contents as others have suggested
EDIT - additional info:
Extract from Windows Mobile Team Blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
Why don't we do more with SD cards?
A frequent question is why we don't support putting more things on storage cards. For instance, we don't allow you to store your contacts, calendar entries, or email on storage cards. (We do allow you to store attachments there, though.) The general problem is that storage cards can, by their nature, be removed from the device. Some types of data don't lend themselves to being there one second and gone the next. Sync would get very confused if it saw 300 contacts on one sync, and then only saw 10 on the next. It would certainly be possible to work out some sort of interface to allow this, but it would be pretty complicated, both to code and to use.
Things that already have the concept of sometimes being there and sometimes not, like email attachments and temporary internet files, are easier to handle on an SD card.
As with any potential feature, allowing someone to put their contacts on a storage card would require that we not do some other feature. On prioritizing SD changes, we take a lot of factors into consideration, one of which is where we see internal flash going. We've already seen phones with multiple gigabytes of internal storage. As things like that become more common, the value of doing new things on storage cards goes down. There's still value in working on SD, it's just that it's not as valuable as other things are.
See also:
http://pocketpcmauritius.blogspot.com/2007/01/final-word-about-moving-pimvol.html
Mike
ActiveSynch - Outlook file too large
Thanks - this keeps me from spinning wheels on the storage card solution (or non-solution)
do you know of any 3d party synch applications allowing you to control or filter which Outlook contacts are synched? I have 11K+ contacts and can't do a mass delete just to get a file small enough to synch with the phone's tiny on-board memory
I understand your pain my friend. However, I cannot conceive of anyones Contacts and Calendar being 40 MB as they're basically text. I suspect that your Inbox is what's clogging the works. Curious how far back your email goes to on your device ... I carry 1 month on my PDA with my attachments on my SC myself.
nope, no email - just the contacts and calendar entries. I did stumble on a partial solution, however. The original data is stored in TimeMatters, which I had to synch with Outlook before re-synching with Pocket Outlook. TimeMatters has a synch utility with works directly with Pocket Outlook, which allows me to limit the scope of the calendar items. The resulting PIM file on the handheld is "only" 30MB, permitting enough breathing room to escape the "delete file" warnings
For all practical purposes, the "delete file" warnings are useless. The file search utility (for files over 64k in size) runs for a few minutes and comes up empty. Attempts to manually move larger files in (either with File Explorer on the handheld or on the PC) to the storage card are useless.
Using most of the phone's on board memory apparently slows it to a crawl. The delay between pressing a button or typing a letter is like a Windows PC running on virtual memory; the rotating colored pie is becoming as ubiquitous as the PC hourglass
I have tried resetting, upgrading to the latest (4/2007) ROM, quitting active programs, and.. lots of rotating colored pie. Maybe the phone just needs to get used to all my contacts
How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
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How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
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11K. not all are needed on the phone but there is no way to filter
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Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
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good news:
TM8E contains an applet to synch directly with Pocket Outlook, which generates a much smaller PIM file on the handheld.
bad news:
the direct synch is very (very, *very*) fussy and time consuming. TM will appear to crash and Task Manager will show that TM is "not responding"
good news:
After about 20 minutes, TM kicks back in and shows thousands of contacts
synchronizing to the handheld (there is a preview dialogue box; when you approve, a status bar slowly grinds to the right as each contact scrolls up and is listed as synchronizing)
bad news:
only a few of the contacts are actually on the phone.
good news:
this really reduces the size of the PIM file and resolves the performance issues listed in my earlier post
bad news:
as much fun as it is waiting for the Lexus Nexus callback (if you get impatient, get on a conference call or go to the bathroom), they are less than helpful on synching issues. In all fairness there are so many 3d party variables
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The synch does not bring a Contact's related Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc although of course you can also synch Events & ToDo's (not Matters like you can the on Blackberry and Palm OS). I strictly limit the scope of the Events & ToDo's so that only 100 or so (the next 3 month's worth) synch. Unfortunately, there is no way to filter limit the scope of the Contacts.
I could limit the fields to phone numbers and emails, but the Treos handled all of my Contacts with address and memo fields included. Searching on the Treo was almost instantaneous - no rotating colored pie as the OS churns through the search. The Treo (650) just wasn't a very good phone. Nothing's perfect, I suppose
Ok,
My aim is to save all mail (not just attachments) on The SD Card for wm6 devices specifically htc hd2
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
been there done that, the "storage card2" problem is persistent (on this device) even if it remains "storage card" after 5-6 reboots; sooner or later it is renamed "storage card2" and a new "storage card" folder is created at the root of your device where all new mail starts to get stored... :-(
the issue really is that he sd card is recognized after the registry tweaks / are executed at boot up
So, how do we make sure that the OS to recognizes SD Card first before the mail starts at boot-up or teh registry tweaks are executed
i have tried all other things like (without success)
1. disable sense,
2. use windows default theme & remove messaging plugin from today's home screen
3. place a shortcut of SD card folder in teh start-up folder
4. deleted all other items in startup folder which load at boot
5. formatted the sd card as fat 16 / fat 32 with all possible sector sizes...
u name it i have done it .. does not work..
what we need are some serious registry tweaks... anyone interested ? any suggestions ?
One suggestion i have in mind (for someone who knows how to write cab / .exe files) is to create a small program to enable and disable the following registry tweak at boot-up and shut-down a shortcut of whoch can then be placed on the screen.
before shutdown - click to disable
after boot up - click to enable
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
add "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments"="string"
Regards
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
given hosted exchange a thought?? (4 bucks a month or so)
profimail runs entirely from the SD card and is much better than the standard outlook email client.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Cheers David
trying profimail 3.26
Hello
I'm trying profimail 3.26 and results are not quite well.
application crash often, i found no integration with today or sense on any forum, and the design make me think to old DOS application.
Good if you need to have a backup of a mailbox on your pda but not very usefull for every day for me.
If some of you have a better idea, i'll take it.
Isnt't it possible with SK-Tools?
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
after profimail
For those who want to use something like profimail to have a mail client on sdcard with sdcard storage see rather free softwares. I found nPOPuk but there is probably many other.
BUMP.
Please, we need a solution to this. We need to be able to successfully save email, not just email attachments, to the storage card, on the HD2, with the Storage Card 2 issue.
???
As said before profimail, or nPOPuk do that ! Not with outlook mobile but this work before a better solution
Supposedly this app does it, as per line 66 on the app details screen:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com
No guarantees that it'll work though, and you may have to hard reset if it breaks something! The software is ANCIENT, might I add. Even on the support forums, the last post was Aug 2009, and the last one before that was 2008 sometime!
To be honest, I would second the idea of getting an Exchange account. MUCH easier, sync the last two weeks or month or what have you, and just use the Search Server feature (built into Outlook Mobile) to get older things.
Don't work with hd2 with french language. a try more lol
The OP is spot on.
Any number of apps and manual tweaks that used to work on other devices do not work on the HD2 and never will unless we can work out and sort the root cause.
To the best of my knowledge the issue is that something is initialising the mail store before the storage card is mounted. Because this happens the device can't find its mail store on 'storage card' and so creates it own 'storage card' in device memory. When the real card is mounted it becomes 'storage card 2'.
Like the OP I have tried disabling everything I can think of that might be causing this behaviour but to no avail. I suspect there is some sort of pre-loader for Sense that runs very early on in the device start up to prepare the device for the Sense UI, but can't prove that. However until we find out what it is and how to delay it somewhat, we aren't going to get mail on the storage card.
I have no solutions, but I can confirm the scale of the challenge!
have tried Flexmail, profimail, npopuk,... (all good rated clients) nothing able to do the job correctly.
Always unable to download all mails and attachements or to see it correctly.
Just incredible to see that in 2010 with a phone like HD2.
Softwares like opera show pretty good html and is usefull, downloading file is not too hard. Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ? The first Outlook Express on PC do better than that and is now very old.
weareborg said:
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
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Do you REALLY have that many e-mails? I just did a test, and switched my main account from "last 3 days" to "last 30 days", going from about 50 messages to 500 in 3 folders, and watched before-after memory usage, it only ate an extra 4.5MB. I'm set to HTML, 20kB and no attachments...
I mean that's just what one app takes, and less than the various caches... Don't know if you've already done it, but moving the Album cache to the card (this one can easily grow to 20-30MB) makes more sense...
rtydevine said:
Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ?
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Simply because the default one does it's job?
bad job
kilrah said:
Simply because the default one does it's job?
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Probably not for me. I need to have 2 boxes with about 2000 emails each and somme attachements. A total of 300 mb probably. Not so much for some Gb. I bought this phone for work and want use the sdcard for those emails. It's name is "windows phone" not ipod or psp or ixus. If i need that i know where to find it. A mail client (Outlook in this case) unable to store 300mb, does not it's job. Email means attachement else it is an SMS. Even when i store attachements on in the sdcard, the phone cry for memory. for information i use no music, no photos, no videos, no games.
Wow... how do you manage, sort, search, browse through 4000 e-mails on a phone???
OK, probably in that kind of use it might not do the job, but it's the first time I see someone needing it...
What you're after is an UMPC A phone's email is great for the couple of hours you're away from a proper computer, not really meant as a primary device...
Hi all, I can't believe no one found a solution on this issue so far, there are already about 5 different threads about this issue. Is no one out there having an Idea?
as I asked before: In SK-Tools, there is a menu-point: Tunup->System Memory and Speed->Messaging file\windows ---> to any other path, include the storage card.
Isn't this a part of the solution? You can download a trial-version with this point. Test it. possibly works on a HD2.
The solution is: GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT!
as far as I understand from other threads you can't get far with the SK-Tools solution because you end up having the "storage card2" issue.
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"GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT"
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what search?