So I been useing 2.2 for a while and don't c what's so good about it I think the slide stock waz better anyone feel the same as me ?
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rok0187 said:
So I been useing 2.2 for a while and don't c what's so good about it I think the slide stock waz better anyone feel the same as me ?
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changed your mind huh?
rok0187 12th August 2010, 10:10 AM
ReTweet this post# 14i felt the same way but only thing i missed was swaype and friend stream so i got swpe and simple status wiget and the facebook tweeter apps and iam good runnung 2,2 and loveing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7633138#post7633138
haha FAIL! But I am sure he is allowed to change his mind. He made that post almost a month ago, plenty of time to change his mind.....
But yeah I don't see whats so good about it. I do miss swype but I can really go w/o it as i mostly use my QWERTY or the speech recognition anyway.
All I really use is the live wallpapers and app2sd. Only reason I installed froyo was for app2sd cause my phone kept warning me about low memory.
yup changed my mind it seemed like woo hooo but at the end of the day it just waz 2.1 with live wallpaper i mean maybe under its some major diffrence iam missing but i cant c it
My reasons for 2.2
For storage, the CM6 ROM left me with 138MB or so after flashing, which is way more than stock with all its bloatware. You add native a2sd in the mix and it gets even better. For performance you have JIT which makes things nice and speedy (and it's customizable in CM6). Then you have the neat feature apps that google just released like chrome to phone and the new voice search. Plus other things I'm totally forgetting right now.
Now, you say you missed the friendstream widget and there are alternatives in the market, but, I've been using tweetdeck beta and it's sick! I don't hardly use the facebook and twitter apps anymore! The only thing missing is a widget, which I think they're working on.
But the best reason, I think is, why not?
I could do without Swype nowadays. I switched to Smart Keyboard and loving it. I tried using Swype again after and couldn't deal with it. I guess I only liked the gimmick with it in the beginning.
Using SetCPU 245/245 on screen off totally saves my battery life. I get up to 4 days with it!!!!
I missed Sense when switching over to Froyo but then I found LauncherPro so I'm happy.
I'm pro froyo!!!
I don't think you guys know this.
You can use swype on all the froyo ROMs. Download and install it.
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Yea I fig it waz just apps to sd that waz the major thing as far as speed I didn't c a big diffrence in 2.1 to 2.2 but idk I think what drew me to the phone waz the way it waz set up on 2.1 and now its all funny don't get me wrong froyo is kool iam not saying its da worst thing u can do but I don't c any reason to keep it besides apps to sd which I don't even use
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Battery life under 2.2 is noticeably better.. even without Setcpu...
but with it sure is nice
I'm not getting 4 days like dude above, but i'm a pretty heavy user and use my phone as a music device when i ride the motorcycle.
Only real problem is a stable wifi tethering app.
YMMV.
- faylix
This complete thread has touched my thoughts and feelings exactly, I recently installed CM 6 with froyo on my slide, and yes, it is less bloated a tad snappier, yes it has JIT, APPS2SD and all that which is great it still does not have keyboard function and shift key lights (which is not necessary but it is OEM stock, I too am missing the original espresso sense UI, if I could at least get APPSTOSD on the stock UI, I would seriously think of going back......
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This complete thread has touched my thoughts and feelings exactly, I recently installed CM 6 with froyo on my slide, and yes, it is less bloated a tad snappier, yes it has JIT, APPS2SD and all that which is great it still does not have keyboard function and shift key lights (which is not necessary but it is OEM stock, I too am missing the original espresso sense UI, if I could at least get APPSTOSD on the stock UI, I would seriously think of going back......
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If I remember correctly eugene's Slidemeroot5r1rom is the closest to what you are looking for, it is a 2.1 rom that is stock w/a2sd
obsidian52 said:
This complete thread has touched my thoughts and feelings exactly, I recently installed CM 6 with froyo on my slide, and yes, it is less bloated a tad snappier, yes it has JIT, APPS2SD and all that which is great it still does not have keyboard function and shift key lights (which is not necessary but it is OEM stock, I too am missing the original espresso sense UI, if I could at least get APPSTOSD on the stock UI, I would seriously think of going back......
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If I remember correctly eugene's Slidemeroot5r1rom is the closest to what you are looking for, it is a 2.1 rom that is stock w/a2sd
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And ChiefzReloaded's CR_MOD_1.35.531_OTA Full ROM has it as well.
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And ChiefzReloaded's CR_MOD_1.35.531_OTA Full ROM has it as well.
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I would suggest ChiefzReloaded's ROM if you want stock. I am still very undecided about CM Froyo. I think it has some good advantages as mentioned above but I am having a hard time because I have been looking at vanilla android for more than a year on my G1. For the most part I just don't like looking at the vanilla lockscreen anymore. I like the expresso/sense style of lockscreens.
Go ahead and at me to the list on this one too. Beenrunning CM6 for a while and not niticing much of any difference too. Battery last the same for me but then I do have a lot of internet driven apps installed. I admit the main reason for me to switch bacc to 2.1 would be the friend stream from the contacts view. If could add it to 2.2 I would happy with that. Haven't seen anything in the market that can help replace that for me.
So I guess a lot of ppl feel the same way today iam off from wrk iam go back to 2.1 I mean ant nothing holding me to froyo
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Ya'll are doing something wrong if froyo isnt faster. Using the ockernals? Running linpack and quadrant, you can see custom is 10x faster than stock.
Yeah sence is nicer, but thats not enough to leave cm6 for me. I like the speed, apps2sd, livewallpaper, customization, etc
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Ya'll are doing something wrong if froyo isnt faster. Using the ockernals? Running linpack and quadrant, you can see custom is 10x faster than stock.
Yeah sence is nicer, but thats not enough to leave cm6 for me. I like the speed, apps2sd, livewallpaper, customization, etc
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I am usuing all the up to date stuff and I do see a slight processor speed uncrease, very little battery life increase, and a definite memory increase. Other than that, froyo seems very "over-rated."
I guess it depends on the person and what he/she wants.
To me froyo is just a bunch of useless customizations with 2 or 3 nifty features.
Espresso froyo better be better than cm6 otherwise android needs some major software improvements...
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Ok so im going to root my phone and install a hero build, my first question i, will installing a new radio change my signal amount, right now i have an iphone, a blackberry curve, and a g1, the g1 is the only phone that gets signal all the time in my house. Also I have a class 4sd, i understand that these roms do automatically apps to sd, will having a class 4 make my system slow, and will class 4 work with swap. and the final question is whitch hero rom has sms working? tried to search but couldn't find anything. thanks.
1. Better reception.
2. I use a Class 4 8GB with 32MB linux swap, no adverse speed effects to my knowledge.
3. Most Hero ROMs are getting 99% of messages, I use JACHero 2.7.4 LITE version, which uses the default launcher.
4. Taylor Swift is a thug, yo.
so whats the difference between light, does using a different launcher slow it down?
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so whats the difference between lite, does using a different launcher slow it down?
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light doesnt use "rosie" aka lancher..lite uses the default google lancher stuff..no htc widgets etc.
well the main reason i have to get this rom is for the widgets, so i geuss i need the full one, and using the full version with a class 4 sd? and whitch version is the newest with the texting working?
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well the main reason i have to get this rom is for the widgets, so i geuss i need the full one, and using the full version with a class 4 sd? and whitch version is the newest with the texting working?
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I only heard good things about drizzy Drake Rogers V3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546984
but you would have to ask someone else about the hero roms its way too mant to choose from
im using jachero 1.3. im running a 4 gig class 4 2.6/900/114mb. i have no lag, no htc loading screen. The only lag i notice is getting out of contacts and the weather widget for some reason. Oh also overclocked down to 383. I getting all sms/mms. However 99.9% of my texts are now on gv but when i get them to my phone i always get them.
I don't have a data plan so I wonder if that will affect my texts I'm leaning toward jacheroski because of the many users but I'm open to comments
I meant I'm leaning towards jachero, is jacheroski a light version
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I meant I'm leaning towards jachero, is jacheroski a light version
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personally, i think drizzy's personal hero v3 runs great. one of the fastest heros i've run so far. if you want stability, maybe try JACHeroski 2.7.3 Lite. it's hero, but with a cupcake feel to it.
Does jacheroski give hero widgets? And I want to get the ime keyboard, maybey drizzy is the one
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Does jacheroski give hero widgets? And I want to get the ime keyboard, maybey drizzy is the one
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none of the lite heros have hero widgets. do you mean manup's hero widgets? or twitter, weather flip clock, etc widgets?
I'm talking mostly about the flip clock and weather.widget and I want to run the ime keyboard
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I'm talking mostly about the flip clock and weather.widget and I want to run the ime keyboard
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almost every buiild nowadays has the htc_ime keyboard. JACHeroski does have those widgets, but you're better off trying his newer heros, JACxHERO, or Drizzy's new heros. Drizzy's personal hero doesn't have all the hero widget, neither does his superlite. But get the FULL hero off of his thread and that has the full hero experience. i haven't run the full drizzy hero, but his personal is blazing fast.
whitch widgets does his personall not have, i cant seem to find a description in his thread.
yah, he doesn't say which he doesn't have.. i'm not completely sure right now. i just flashed cyanogens newest... sorry man :\
thought I'd add my 2p to this.
I've used the jachero ROM and had to change back
I received less than 10% of my texts and MMS's (yes, literally, it kept receiving an old one over and over when people text me)
If you upgrade to a newer version (even 0.1 upgrade) then you lose all your settings etc
Very slow when going from an app or settings screen back to home screen (takes 20 seconds or so)
I missed loads of calls, when someone phoned me it vibrated, screen went black and no buttong responded, when it eventually played the ringtone and showed me who was calling and the buttons responded it had gone to voicemail.
i am using jac v3r2... i love it. i seem to get most of my sms. the only person that i know i fail to recieve texts from is one of my friends but she has a g1 and she always has problems with her phone so i am not sure if it is on her end or mine...
So at first when I switched to the AOSP 1.6 ROM I was a little bummed that my beautiful phone was now...ugly. But! After a while I found little things, here and there, that slowly but surely began to make 1.6 better and better:
This is using a combination of metamorph (and various themes), Home++ and the HTC_IME keyboard (ported over from 1.5)
If you're on the fence between 1.6 and 1.5, let this be your nudge! I think my phone looks better now than it did even with Sense and it's a heck of a lot faster too!
I'm just really excited about this that's all. Anyone else manage to get 1.6 lookin' good?
Though I'm happy to hear that you've successfully switched -- I'd like to say that the majority of the people here probably didn't switch yet, because of few reasons (so far that I know of). Apparently 1.6 seems to not allow some people to use SMS and/or Bluetooth? If this has been fixed, then great -- I'd like to try it out. Otherwise, I don't know that I want to spend 10 minutes switching real quick, just to test SMS. I don't use bluetooth, so that wouldn't be a problem for me, though Home++ looks sweet!!. How have things gone for you?
if i could get 7 homescreens on 1.6 i'd jump in a heartbeat because of metamorph.
Ya I almost droped back down to 1.5 because I didn't have Sense, but now I'm using GDE and the better keyboard app. Hey how did you get the bootscreen changed on it?
If you want more info on Home++, here is their official page: link.
I love home++
There's a sweeter home beta to spruce it up to, but I would rather have eclair sense. It just looks so smooth, hard to beat. I was at my it dept today andran onto q fellow xda'er with a nexus. I'm jealous. Sucks that most of the sickest phones are on gsm, and cdma comes behind 6mo to never. Here I sit with Sprint though. Love the speed and data plan. Dangit.
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if i could get 7 homescreens on 1.6 i'd jump in a heartbeat because of metamorph.
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There is a metamorph 2.0 extension pack that has an extended home app that allows you up to 10 home screens. It also allows landscape homescreen which is pretty cool.
I will get the links from another thread and post them back here in a minute.
Update:
Here is the link to the Metamorph 2.0 stock theme : http://android-stock-theme.googlecode.com/files/Android-2.0-Stock-Theme-v1.2.zip
And the Add on that will give you the 10 screens as well as some other extras: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=274033&d=1264741520
The best part is that it looks and acts like a stock AOSP 1.6/2.0 rom without any of the wierd behaviors of the other home replacements.
Thanks to Gregalous for the Links !
this is the exact set up I was going to do. the only thing that was stopping me was the constant syncing gmail, cal and stuff on aosp 1.6. Is that still an issue?
I do. If I were to switch to 1.6 I would end up building my own custom version and frankly I've spent enough time with my 1.5 rom.
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if i could get 7 homescreens on 1.6 i'd jump in a heartbeat because of metamorph.
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worrrdd..me too lol
menzo44 said:
this is the exact set up I was going to do. the only thing that was stopping me was the constant syncing gmail, cal and stuff on aosp 1.6. Is that still an issue?
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AOSP 1.6 never had constant syncing issue.
so i tried this with home++ and i gotta say, it was really awesome. but i STILL ended up going back to 1.5 sense because i missed htc's widgets too much. three of my homescreens are all htc sense widgets... i just can't live without em!
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worrrdd..me too lol
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You can! If you dont want to use a new home app then you can get AdvancedLauncher.apk (available in many metamorph themes) allows you to change the number of home screens among other things
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so i tried this with home++ and i gotta say, it was really awesome. but i STILL ended up going back to 1.5 sense because i missed htc's widgets too much. three of my homescreens are all htc sense widgets... i just can't live without em!
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Same thing happened to me. Also syncing contacts with facebook and posting from "HTC Sense" made me feel special.
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AOSP 1.6 never had constant syncing issue.
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well I'm not sure what I was thinking of. I guess maybe aosp 2.01? I don't know but I am sure glad you cleared it up for me! I have spent all morning getting it all hooked up and this is exactly what I was wanting. The 1.6 market is reason enough for me! it is light years better than 1.5 market.
I have quiet's 1.6 with gbhil's Googlebits, superuser, and quiet's headset fix. Everything works besides BT, don't care personally.
I have quiet's 1.6 with gbhil's Googlebits, superuser, and quiet's headset fix. Everything works besides BT, don't care personally.
My browser double posted, sorry.
I didnt even think about not having facebook sync until you mentioned it, and I was going to try this out tonight lol.
Is it real bad without it? I have a little hatred in me for contacts without pictures, thats the main thing I guess, dont really use the whole updates and all that tab as it runs kinda slow when I can just use an app. Is there anyway to pull pictures down without Sense?
Also, I hope no one minds me asking this here but I just want to make sure im going to do this right if I do.
Im currently running fresh 1.1 with Modoco's custom kernel and 2.1 icons and want to try out AOSP 1.6
So I should:
1. Create a backup
2. Wipe my phone (will this remove root access forcing me to reroot?)
3. Flash AOSP 1.6
4. Can I load in Modocos custom kernel?
5. Get metamorph etc going blah blah
Any help is appreciated thanks.
This is just out of curiosity, but which do you like more and why?
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I like cyanogen because it has more features but I use liberated because cyanogen lacks the sense UI which I love
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I like cm6 because live wallpapers
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I don't use my phone too much.with cyanogen, my battery lasts forever.so cyanogen for me.
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Pretty much the same as Mast above. I keep a nandroid backup of CM6 as well as Liberated on my phone, and switch back and forth, but spend 90% of my time in Liberated.
I can't wait for "Liberated" 2.2...
CM6. Here's why...
Freedom, battery life, speed, lack of Sense (I hated it), and flexibility.
CM6...im loving the battery life, the speed, and the flexibility. I was hesitant to make the switch from Liberated at first because I'd lose Sense...but I dont miss Sense at all.
I don't even remember what Sense feels like. I just don't like the linkage in contacts. Liberated had been improved a lot with features that comparable with CM6 so I think I'm going to nandroid both for fun.
I'm still on the fence, I want to try and give Cyanogen another shot (I only ran it for a few hours before going back to Liberated), but right now I'm running Liberated, mainly because I'm still very close to the stock ROM that I'm comfortable with, while still getting perks like root, tethering, and a lack of bloatware. One thing I really hate about Cyanogen in comparison to Liberated/Stock is the call screen. When someone calls you and it has the choice to answer/deny, I think the stock looks a million times better. I also dont like the status bar
I prefer CM6 all day everyday.
I hate the HTC dialer and contacts replacement, "people". I don't need more category possibilities for my contacts than I have contacts. I want to be able to bring up contacts and do a one touch dial, without having to have a full page widget to access favorites quickly.
I don't like that with the Sense UI, HTC has taken Android so far from AOSP that is takes months for them to get updates complete after the Nexus One is updated. Then it takes more months for carriers to approve those updates for use on branded phones.
Sense is nonsense, IMO. Of course you may feel differently, and that's why we have choice.
Dito on the contacts "people" list. You just remind me where was my head ache. Both roms do have goods and bads
for those of your going back and forth between liberated and cm6, do you have to make any changes to your installed apps or you simply wipe everything and use clockwork to load one or the other ?
I'm with you two about the contacts; the HTC "improvements" are anything but.
However, I do like the sense dialer and a lot of other things about sense.
I used CM on my G1 from day one, and there were always little "gotchas:" lags, force closes, things that didn't quite work. That may not be the case with CM on the Aria, but I really like the way the phone works now. It even took me a while to root and try Liberated: nothing was broken.
That said, choice is beautiful. Many thanks to attn1 and everyone at CM for providing that.
Cyanogen
Because I don't like sence as much as I thought I would. Pluse I think CyanogenMod has more features.
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If I dump sense for cm, will I lose the nice HTC flash player integration? I understand flash in 2.2 isn't supported by aria CPU?
If the CPU didn't support Flash then how would an HTC app make it suddenly support it? You'll be fine.
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If the CPU didn't support Flash then how would an HTC app make it suddenly support it? You'll be fine.
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The fact is flash 10.1 only works on Froyo, and if you have an Arm7 Cpu. The aria does not have the correct cpu. Flash was compiled for that cpu ONLY. What the aria has is Flash Lite from HTC, not the same.
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I'm with you two about the contacts; the HTC "improvements" are anything but.
However, I do like the sense dialer and a lot of other things about sense.
I used CM on my G1 from day one, and there were always little "gotchas:" lags, force closes, things that didn't quite work. That may not be the case with CM on the Aria, but I really like the way the phone works now. It even took me a while to root and try Liberated: nothing was broken.
That said, choice is beautiful. Many thanks to attn1 and everyone at CM for providing that.
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I too have had glitches and lockups with CM that i don't have with Liberated. For those that don't like the contacts integration of HTC, then you should really try Dialer One from the market. Cm is very configurable, but Liberated to me is more stable. If not for Dialer One I would probably live with the daily lockup I had with CM6.
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If the CPU didn't support Flash then how would an HTC app make it suddenly support it? You'll be fine.
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HTC has a proprietary flash lite. Not fully featured but in many cases sufficient. Certainly beats nothing. I like having it but doesn't make CM6 a deal breaker for me.
Ive learned not to care about Sense UI but not having App Market is an issue. I cant find things through app brain or even ways to side install them because I cant find most of the actual apps.
How do I put the App Market back into CM6? Thanks.
I notice there are a few different ROM's for the DHD, some with Sense some without.
Whats the actual difference, does Sence in some way slow the phone down?
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
So, are there advantages to running a more vanilla android version with some widgets over the sense style ROMs.
I am on mike1986's Android Revolution.
I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
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If you root the phone using VISIONary+ you can delete/rename the Lockscreen.apk I believe and it will return to the vanilla lockscreen. As for jazzy widgets that's a Sense thing, unless you buy and install LauncherPro over ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro has People, Bookmarks, Calaendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook & Friends widgets that can be used. There is also music widget control using Cyanogen.
I find sense slow and garish, it slows down the phone for no good reason, ASOP ROMs are much lighter and look, IMO, much prettier and unique.
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I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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People like the simplicity of Cyanogen. Sense slows even the DHD down, it's aweful. And to boot pretty much everyone with an Android phone has it. It's better to be unique.
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Point well made.
I really can't notice nay slow down due to Sense whatsoever. I really do think that someone should clearly "sell" the advantages of dumping Sense, other than just plain old enthusiasm for hacking something. I think it is more down to aesthetics than anything else. Try other ROMs and see if you like them, you might. I like the fact that HTC have at least tried to add value to Android.
A further irony is having come from the Magic I can vouch for the fact that much effort was put into porting Sense to that plain Android phone.
Sorry, no lag when I scroll my SMS or App drawer. The DHD can definitely deal with the demands of Sense.
Sense is pretty cool and only lags if you try to make it. I think that if all Android phones came with Cyanogen as the stock ROM then the Sense ROM would be a massive hit. Cyanogen is definitely a good choice because it's clean and fast but until i actually need my Desire HD to run faster and more efficiently i won't use it. That's why i will go sort of halfway and flash a cooked sense based ROM like Leedroid.
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
sHaHiN786 said:
I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
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I have to admit I didn't try it out on desire hd but I tried it when I'm with a hero. Say, cyan is for dev and sense is for users. Whatever you get what you want.
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rosswaa said:
look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
eozen81 said:
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
Kalavere said:
You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Not that, I know of. Sense Copy & Paste is one of them, there is no magnification window when you copy and paste on the DHD, and the louder ring, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
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lol who said it had to be standard? sense comes with to much bloatware, so i remove most of it
have you tried this theme addon? http://classical-gas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jamt-htc-desire-cyanogenmod-610rc2.html
works real nice i have cyan set up alight atm but hopefuly not long till the ginger comes along
I am back on a sense rom. Rcmixhd since adfree and other components work correctly unlike on the other sense roms I've tried. I used to love Cyanogen on my Nexus One but the new sense is very slick indeed.
It does not lag. It does take a little longer to boot and use more memory but who cares when we have so much ram on the dhd. I don't know how the amount of room it takes can be an issue either considering we have 1.5gb rom. I still have 0.9gb free with 54 apps installed.
tbh I still love cyanogenmod but its htc locations which is keeping me on sense. Its the best android offline navigator I've tried in terms of routing here in New zealand and I love the fact I can just buy a cheap 1 month subscription for navigation in another country when I go overseas. Any other app one is forced to buy a complete package for that country at considerably larger cost.
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I really don't like the Sense launcher, I use adw, but sense has lots of little modifications that are just nice to have. Text selection, quick lookup, freaking awesome dialer, flip to speaker etc
I'm running android revolution hd, no lags, excellent battery (whole day with pretty heavy use. Needs charging every night but I can use all the phones features as much as I like and not give the battery a second thought) also 2400 in quadrant. So all in all i really rate sense.
looks too much like iOS, any1 else feel the same way?
it does and i said the same thing but iv been running it for a month now, switching off to new sense roms but within a hour im back it works way to good. All the sense roms out battery life sucks, it lags, and even after switching to a new kernel seems something breaks like wifi.
Personally I like savzen I agree that sense eats up battery life but I enjoy the Widgets but I can do without
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it does and i said the same thing but iv been running it for a month now, switching off to new sense roms but within a hour im back it works way to good. All the sense roms out battery life sucks, it lags, and even after switching to a new kernel seems something breaks like wifi.
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love sense, but ran it for so long it got boring, went to MIUI then found out it had no app drawer like iOS, and i didnt like that experience lol, now im running an AOSP rom
Really can't stand Sense anything. I tried the MIUI for about 10 minutes. Definitely not for me. CM7 does everything I need it to.
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MIUI is ios if ios was designed really, really well. It may "simply" look the same, but it isn't remotely close. I highly recommend you try it before you bash it for not having an app drawer.
alaman68 said:
MIUI is ios if ios was designed really, really well. It may "simply" look the same, but it isn't remotely close. I highly recommend you try it before you bash it for not having an app drawer.
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i did try it, for almost a day, but the feel was too much like iOS, i get what ur saying, but it really doesnt feel like i have an android on my hands if u kno what i mean
I'm using the MIUI Tim and I love it I guess my only issue is that I'm not experiencing that long battery life everyone is speaking of am I doing something wrong... help lol I have the cyotogen 7 kernel if that helps
sttonydamunsta luv my evo4g
I wasn't thrilled with the lack of the app drawer but that's easily fixed by loading another launcher. When I was using MIUI it was Launcher Pro.
MIUI looks like iOS after a fresh flash, but it doesn't have to. That's what I love most about it, I can theme every aspect of it. I use Alt Drawer, so I have an app drawer.
Plus it's smooth, has a lot of neat apps, and is different than any other rom I've seen. I switched to it because I was bored with CM7 and didn't like Sense. That was in April and I haven't looked back.
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tempe38 said:
I wasn't thrilled with the lack of the app drawer but that's easily fixed by loading another launcher. When I was using MIUI it was Launcher Pro.
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hmm never thought about doing that, thx for the idea hehe
plainjane said:
MIUI looks like iOS after a fresh flash, but it doesn't have to. That's what I love most about it, I can theme every aspect of it. I use Alt Drawer, so I have an app drawer.
Plus it's smooth, has a lot of neat apps, and is different than any other rom I've seen. I switched to it because I was bored with CM7 and didn't like Sense. That was in April and I haven't looked back.
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dont get me wrong, the Rom looked super neat, and smooth, except for the keyboard, couldnt keep up with my typing but thats easily fixed
and alt drawer? never heard of it, might give it a try see how i like it
Or just throw all your apps into a folder and put it on the dock.
~ I'm a fungi
a senile fungus said:
Or just throw all your apps into a folder and put it on the dock.
~ I'm a fungi
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i tried that, but the more apps i put in, the laggier it got for some reason, and it was really cramped, kind of annoying to try to find an app lol
I am on the dislike MIUI bandwagon too. I'm not going to bash it as I agree it has some sick features. The killer for me was the app drawer and 4g. I think if I gave it more than a day I could customize it to my liking but I just like Sense and all the Sense features.
I thought about maybe a custom launcher but then I thought "why change from a Sense rom that is native to my HTC phone that guarantees GPS ect to work by default and install one that isn't just to put a launcher over it and defeat the purpose"
I got bored with Sense launcher and Rosie so I currently have ADW ex installed and still have flawless gps, the dialer I like, everything synced how I like, email app I like apps where I want ect... right from the start.
I could do that with MIUI or CM but then I have to install DialerOne, GoSMS and a few other things to get what I like. I can't stand any of the AOSP dialer and sms layouts.
If I didn't live in such a 4g rich area I would probably give MIUI the turn it deserves but that is a killer before I start. It's also what's really irking me about the new Sense 3.5 Roms. Runny~Bliss(i think) hybrid looks gorgeous to me..... but I'll wait it out.
Miui isn't a bad rom at all. At first I refuse to use it because it did remind me of my old iPhone. But ended up trying it and loving it.
I get better battery life with miui compared to sense. Plus there is alot of built in apps and features to miui that is bad ass. And who can forget all the sweet customizing you can do to it. For example just did this setup below a few minutes ago...
One somewhat downside for me is the no 4G but then again that only effects me when I go visit my parents up state. That's when I backup Miui and switch to a sense Rom problem solved haha.
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MIUI is AMAZING. I love it. And the theming? NO ROM beats it! Its fantastic the way you can make your phone look. The only reason why I won run it, is because of the laggyness of the keyboard.
Here is my current setup of MIUI, and it damn sure doesn't look like iOS to me...
BTW, my GPS snaps perfectly, syncing all 8 SATS in about a millisecond. I really don't get why people make comments without knowing how to do something.
Maybe it does look a bit like iOS. But I don't care, it's still the smoothest and best ROM I've flashed on my Evo. (and particularly this week's build is quite stable so far).
HipKat said:
BTW, my GPS snaps perfectly, syncing all 8 SATS in about a millisecond. I really don't get why people make comments without knowing how to do something.
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Not sure if that was directed to my gps comment but either way...... It's a know fact that aosp based roms are more subject to gps issue and have had numerous "fixes" posted to resolve.
It's not a matter of what I KNOW how to do it what i WANT to deal with. I never said aosp or miui were bad by any means. Just not my cup.
Posted a long time ago in the future.
I used to think the same. Now, I have customized Miui to my liking by creating my own app drawer and installing a new theme via the built in theme manager. It is very fast, very advanced, highly customizable and finally pulled me away from Sense (though I do have two Sense Roms in my Boot Manager slots).
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