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HSPA+.....

Just got a text from T-Mobile saying HSPA+ is active in my city....Memphis, TN. Havent noticed in difference. Maybe I should do a speed test later.

maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it

hspa+ is still faster than the 3g you prob had, so now you might get up to 7.2mbps.. so you could notice a difference even though we dont have hspa enable devices... this is the first time that we can recieve more data than the phone can handle...

scrizz said:
maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it
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yeah i thought about that too. I have an upgrade so I am gonna get the G2 when it comes out. But i still wanna do some test with normal 3g versus HSPA+

Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.

All I care about is that hsdpa gets me down speeds rivaling my cable connection and up speeds beating my cable connection. 5.5/1
6? Don't need more.
Unless I am at home where tmo never gives me much signal love
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DriftorX said:
Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.
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I just did the speed test on my Vibrant and thats the speeds I am getting. Dont remember what I was getting before tho.

I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)

pavvy said:
I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)
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I get about 0.5 at home, but 4-5 at work.

I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...

pavvy said:
I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...
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I only get edge at home. I live right outside of the hspa network...

I'm about 45 mins outside of hspa/3g networks, on most days around town, I stay on 3g
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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+

larryccf said:
curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+
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Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.

No the h isn't turned on... Gotta check in settings... Only stock phone that shows h is the n1..
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Looks like the HSPA+ network to me. You didn't notice anything because you we're already on it. They only announce it after it has a good amount of coverage over the existing HSPA/3G network. It actually starts to come online far before they announce it. I noticed HSPA+ 2 months before they said it was live (outside of the strip where it was turned on during CES or CTIA)

acjames said:
Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.
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thought our phones were HSPA, but not HSPA+ - are you sure they're not HSPA??
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does (according to Tmo's map, i'm in a "moderate" coverage area, and in a shallow valley in that area)
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps

larryccf said:
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps
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Interesting. I havent noticed mine doing that. But i cant say i have paid much attention to it either tho.

Hspa+ speedtest issues

I'm speed testing at my home and I usually get great speeds. But since yesterday when I start the speed test it will jump to 500k/bs and then bog down to 2g speeds? Is this tmobile limiting me? And when I ever I try to tether it will connect.and then disconnect.devices frequently... I just loaded the ICED ROM, and love it. But I dont think thats the issue. Please help me out guys.
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Could be tmobile data throttling you. DAMN THEM!

Please post questions in Q&A section.

Tallyphillips said:
I'm speed testing at my home and I usually get great speeds. But since yesterday when I start the speed test it will jump to 500k/bs and then bog down to 2g speeds? Is this tmobile limiting me? And when I ever I try to tether it will connect.and then disconnect.devices frequently... I just loaded the ICED ROM, and love it. But I dont think thats the issue. Please help me out guys.
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Take a look at what Gattling had to say about this:
T-Mobile Speed Throttling in the G2 Forums

Hmmm, it does seem a bit odd that TMO/anyone would throttle bandwidth via a file stored on the device itself - as opposed to back at the host. I can't vouch for the functionality of the contents of that dir (data/system/throttle) though.
It just seems silly to manage at the client level, as opposed to server-side. Provisioning of this nature is usually managed at an account-level at the host.
A few things I've encountered in my time w/ TMO...
- At the beginning of the year, I was only getting about 800 kbps down and 200 kbps up. I called TMO and eventually got escalated up to someone that seemed to know what they were talking about. In the Orlando area, he felt I should've already been getting better speeds than that (and hinted at the eventual roll-out of HSPA+). Ultimately, nothing came out of the troubleshooting and my speeds remained as they were.
- I was given a free CliqXT back in April and noticed the same speeds (800/200). I called in and the first thing they had me do was swap my SIM card (and use the new one vs. the one I had with my G1). Things started to change for me at this point and I started seeing 1 mbps/500 kbps speeds.
- As months went on, our speeds eventually got better and better. Before our new MyTouch 4G's, we were getting 3 mbps-5mbps, depending on the time of day. I'll go grab my Speedtest.net log from my old CliqXT so you can see the gradual incline throughout 2010.
I'm now getting a steady 8-10 mbps down and 600-700 kbps up...
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Which servers are you testing with?

shlongwoodian said:
Hmmm, it does seem a bit odd that TMO/anyone would throttle bandwidth via a file stored on the device itself - as opposed to back at the host. I can't vouch for the functionality of the contents of that dir (data/system/throttle) though.
It just seems silly to manage at the client level, as opposed to server-side. Provisioning of this nature is usually managed at an account-level at the host.
A few things I've encountered in my time w/ TMO...
- At the beginning of the year, I was only getting about 800 kbps down and 200 kbps up. I called TMO and eventually got escalated up to someone that seemed to know what they were talking about. In the Orlando area, he felt I should've already been getting better speeds than that (and hinted at the eventual roll-out of HSPA+). Ultimately, nothing came out of the troubleshooting and my speeds remained as they were.
- I was given a free CliqXT back in April and noticed the same speeds (800/200). I called in and the first thing they had me do was swap my SIM card (and use the new one vs. the one I had with my G1). Things started to change for me at this point and I started seeing 1 mbps/500 kbps speeds.
- As months went on, our speeds eventually got better and better. Before our new MyTouch 4G's, we were getting 3 mbps-5mbps, depending on the time of day. I'll go grab my Speedtest.net log from my old CliqXT so you can see the gradual incline throughout 2010.
I'm now getting a steady 8-10 mbps down and 600-700 kbps up...
Which servers are you testing with?
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Exactly what I thought. I also wondered why they would rely on the handset to handle provisioning, considering the inevitable hacking that would take place. Then again, I can't determine the purpose of the throttle file either. The values make absolutely no sense to me. I'm testing with the closest server to Dallas (Provo, UT). The best speeds i've seen on my MT4G have been around 4mbps, that was by DFW Airport where the signal seems to be about as strong as it's going to get in the DFW Metroplex. I don't know what I'd do if I started seeing speeds of 8-10mbps... This is using my new SIM that came with the MT4G too.
***Now the Texas servers are showing up, still same results though***

The area i live in does not have 4g but 3g. So i am getting speeds of 300 to 500 kbps download. On 3g i should be getting better speeds than this. Tech support said these speeds i preety good for 3g. My old att phone gets better speeds than this on edge.

How is this even possible with full bars? Sprint fix your $hit.

Been having similiar results everywhere for 3 months. In nj. Complained many of times and they keep saying there is an outage. BS. your data service is just horrible.
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the full bars is for calls and not data i think

CheesyNutz said:
the full bars is for calls and not data i think
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+1. It is not showing you 3g service...

Doesn't the Speedtest app need location turned on so it can select the most appropriate server for you. Otherwise you get the zero test.

Looks like an outage to me. Crappy service wouldn't get you zero, let alone NeGaTiVe ZeRo!!

Can you access any other internet page? It's possible a route between you and the server you're trying to do a speedtest with is down as well.

cruise350 said:
Doesn't the Speedtest app need location turned on so it can select the most appropriate server for you. Otherwise you get the zero test.
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Nope I just ran speedtest without location turned on.
I don't know where the op is but 3g has been messed up for me tonight. 4g, however, works fine.
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The 3g service is lit up. I just know i cant watch a you tube video if my life depended on it. Email is always late, uploading or dl pic messages 2+ hours sometimes. Web pages ...dial up is faster. I just want out.

Try downloading the 4G, CDMA, GSM & WiFi Map Viewer app from Sensorly.com, and make sure to turn GPS on

rstuckmaier said:
Looks like an outage to me. Crappy service wouldn't get you zero, let alone NeGaTiVe ZeRo!!
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Im really tired of.that excuse from them.
donatom3 said:
Can you access any other internet page? It's possible a route between you and the server you're trying to do a speedtest with is down as well.
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I doubt it...its consistent with these type of results for months. Notice dates and results.

skillzo1 said:
Im really tired of.that excuse from them.
I doubt it...its consistent with these type of results for months.
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months ? come on stop the bull****

skillzo1 said:
Im really tired of.that excuse from them.
I doubt it...its consistent with these type of results for months.
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I never assume when I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue. I'd try to go to a couple of pages in the browser first if they don't connect you may have a sprint issue. I've had the app do this to me to when I was perfectly able to connect to actual sites.

Welcome to my world

CheesyNutz said:
months ? come on stop the bull****
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post # 10 no bs
donatom3 said:
I never assume when I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue. I'd try to go to a couple of pages in the browser first if they don't connect you may have a sprint issue. I've had the app do this to me to when I was perfectly able to connect to actual sites.
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NO pages will load. I hear you on assuming, so i'm going to try to put them to rest. They are sending me another phone just incase it is my phones antenna. Maybe i am wrong. But after reading about all the bad 3g speeds, again i doubt it will fix. Maybe for a few days but then starting all over.

SSjon said:
Try downloading the 4G, CDMA, GSM & WiFi Map Viewer app from Sensorly.com, and make sure to turn GPS on
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I will try that but that will kill my battery faster.

skillzo1 said:
I will try that but that will kill my battery faster.
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It would give you an idea if your in a dead spot seeing what other sprint users are getting for signal. Or if it is just your phone.

Just where in Jersey are you?
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i have been having the same problem here in WI. befere i had my EVO i was on a HERO with everything working ok(slow phone but at least data worked). but, now when i switched to the EVO i no longer had a data connection. the phone wont load any pages; its been a month now.
i have been in contact with sprint about the issue but they arent helping really. i keep receiving error code 104 "sign in failed". sprint claims "software problem" but i dont see how that could be. I used the most recent available RUU and then OTA the latest 3.70.651.1 and still nothing. i even rooted and tried flashing earlier radios with no change. also updating profile and reprovisioning data did nothing. so if nothing changes fast i want to be refunded all this time i have been without data.

My Sprint 3G speeds are balls-deep in fail. I have a Droid 2 on VZW and for fun I ran a speed test tonight and came up with:
.24 mbps download / .05 upload / 299 Ping from Sprint and
.95 mbps download / .25 upload / 128 Ping from VZW
I'm wondering if it's a nationwide issue? My 3G speeds have been incredibly laggy in loads of places (it's embarrassingly slow in comparison to even T-Mobile?! at some points). Hoping it's not a permanent issue of some sort.

kf2mq said:
Just where in Jersey are you?
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Bayonne=home...newark/irvington= work. Highly populated areas as they are all 5 min from manhatten.

[Q] Bay Area: 4g slower than 3g?

I finally tried the "new" 4g I get four out four 4g bars pretty much everywhere in that area. So far so good.
But when I test the speed with the speedtest.net app or testmy.net site, I am always getting only 0.4mbps download speed (but normal 0.9 mbps upload speed). 3g download speed is 1.2mbps
I also tried another EVO with the same result (both hardware version 3). I don't think it is a hardware issue, because last year I tried my EVO in a different area and got 8mpbs (with four bars).
I tried the two latest wimax versions (and updated the profile):
EVO_WiMAX_27167_R01
EVO_WiMAX_26023_R01
Does anybody have an idea why the download speed is so slow (with excellent signal strength)?
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I am not looking for confirmation that download speed in the bay area is fast. I believe that, I am rather interested in possible explanations, what could be wrong on my phone.

Probably something wrong going on there. I've been getting 4g in the bay area for at least 3 months. I've maxed out at 9.5 mbps...

Yes, something is probably wrong. What Wimax version did you flash?

+1 to it being fast in the Bay Area. Have gotten as high as 1.1 MByte/sec (with a -64dBm signal).
Stock EVO, and a Sierra 250U for use at the hotel.

What wimax version do you guys have on your phones?
What else could make a difference?
For example ad-blocking (via /etc/hosts or ad-free) does interfere with 4g web browsing, but I don't have any ad-blocking software or hosts file.
Again, this is the first time I am having issues with 4g. Last time I used 4g was 2months ago (before the official roll-out), but had no problems.

I got 8mb to the speed test app last night at the in n out on 101 and rhengstorf
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4G Speeds fine for me
I have a Evo 4G hardware version 0004 and my speeds are almost 10Mbps in the bay. Same in Sacramento.

I think mystery solved.
I went to a Sprint store to compare with other devices and they had the same problem.

FYI, tested from Stanford campus with almost no 4g signal and got 2.4 Mbps down and 0.5 up. Not great compared to others though, but I was indoors.
EVO 4G, CM7-GX4, Savaged-Zen

seems to be sporatic coverage to me. When i test in certain areas the speeds are awesome but when i'm at home, whether inside or outside, the speeds are indeed worse than 3g. Give it some time i guess maybe they'll bolster the coverage a bit more as they expand.
This is all in various parts of san bruno

palmdude said:
It looks like that the 4g tower in the following area has a big problem with download speeds.
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Bandwith hog, I'll bet.
Have you reported it to Sprint, just in case it's really a bad tower after all?

lacrossev said:
seems to be sporatic coverage to me. When i test in certain areas the speeds are awesome but when i'm at home, whether inside or outside, the speeds are indeed worse than 3g. Give it some time i guess maybe they'll bolster the coverage a bit more as they expand.
This is all in various parts of san bruno
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That's what I've noticed in SF. I have gotten nice d/l speeds at various places I've been but overall it's sporadic at best and 3G seems to be my best bet overall for the places I frequent.

I am not sure that this is a coverage issue. My antenna signal strength is very high and the tower is 0.2 miles away (according to spring). I tested in areas with only one bar and still got at least 2mbps.
lacrossev said:
seems to be sporatic coverage to me. When i test in certain areas the speeds are awesome but when i'm at home, whether inside or outside, the speeds are indeed worse than 3g. Give it some time i guess maybe they'll bolster the coverage a bit more as they expand.
This is all in various parts of san bruno
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I don't think it is a bandwidth hog. I tested many days around the clock always the same problem.
Yes, I called Sprint, I tried to explain that I tried other EVOs and got the same problem. And that the phone works very well everywhere else in Bay Area But they think it is a problem with my phone (after the "advanced support technician" remotely updated the phone and also did an "handsfree activation").
I guess the problem is that they haven't received (m)any calls from that area yet. The most surprising part is that the sprint store in that area apparently didn't complain about the problem either ...
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Bandwith hog, I'll bet.
Have you reported it to Sprint, just in case it's really a bad tower after all?
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Did you have any download speed problem, when the 4g signal strength was excellent ("full bars")?
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That's what I've noticed in SF. I have gotten nice d/l speeds at various places I've been but overall it's sporadic at best and 3G seems to be my best bet overall for the places I frequent.
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Exciting news.
After 13 months Sprint/Clearwire fixed the tower and I have full 4g speed now.
Average speedtest roughly 9.5mbps down and 1.4mbps up.
Speedtest via hotspot: 4.5 mbps down.

You guys are lucky.
Where im living i would post this thread with the title:
Gainesville: 3G slower than 1x?
Its been like that for the last 6 months here.
Id rather roam 1x on verizon than use sprint's 3g. 100% honest. I get about 100kbps on a good day.. average around 30 kpbs right now

palmdude said:
I think mystery solved.
I went to a Sprint store to compare with other devices and they had the same problem.
It looks like that the 4g tower in the following area has a big problem with download speeds.
http://sprintstorelocator.com/map.a...alesServices=1,2&repairServices=&services=1,3
I tried other areas (for example 101 and rhengstorf like user treckin) and everything worked perfectly (8mpb). So it is not a phone issue.
Only a problem in the above area ...
Feel free to test in that area
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That site is defunct, but you can see the tower at the new site:
https://network.sprint.com/search/94040/
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Getting great 4G speeds in San Francisco, about 8.5 Mbps download with one to two bars of strength. Compared to my .3 Mbps download speeds with full bars of 3G, it's amazing. By the way, my mom's Samsung Epic 4G is getting 5x faster 3G speeds...any reason for that? Is the Evo just that bad?

@NxNW thanks for the link update. But the map doesn't show any 4g coverage.
You can see 4g coverage here: http://www.clear.com/coverage
3g speed has been around 0.7mbps average in the last couple of months (despite the data capacity upgrade). It used to be 1.5 mbps ...
BTW the highest speed I measured was 12.4 mbps.

I want lte on my atrix!!!!

The Verizon LTE service is supposed to be the fastest out there.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5923/holysh1tlte.jpg
BUT...
It looks like now that people have actually started to use LTE, the speeds have gone Way, Way down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma88UIRt1S0&feature=player_embedded#t=442s
Is anyone else beating this "4"g with hspa+?!

i dont know. the download was slow, around 2Mbps. but holy crap did you see the upload hitting 22Mbps!

Still beats the pants off my Atrix and AT&T.

Techcruncher said:
The Verizon LTE service is supposed to be the fastest out there.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5923/holysh1tlte.jpg
BUT...
It looks like now that people have actually started to use LTE, the speeds have gone Way, Way down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma88UIRt1S0&feature=player_embedded#t=442s
Is anyone else beating this "4"g with hspa+?!
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Download????? only 2.97? WTF
Man LTE is sooooo amazing. But the uploading being 22 is f**king awesome!

just thought I would clear this up, The high uploads are due to the speedtest app not being able to measure LTE uploading correctly.
These scores are completely inaccurate.
It might as well say 99999999.9999999mbps upload.

Techcruncher said:
just thought I would clear this up, The high uploads are due to the speedtest app not being able to measure LTE uploading correctly.
These scores are completely inaccurate.
It might as well say 99999999.9999999mbps upload.
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Oh that makes sense. But I get those download speeds on my Moto Atrix!

Is anyone else having a problem with their atrix switching to Edge? I'll try to run a speed test or watch a video and it will just randomly switch to edge, then no signal, then back to H. What's the deal?

That was the point of this post. Most atrixes (Atrices?) are faster than this. Mine gets 5 down

Intersting results - mine were much different in Phoenix AZ.
I think in general the speedtest app is broken. When doing it on the webpage I was getting more consistantly between 15-20 MBps download and 5 MB upload.
I am actually giving back my atrix tomorrow. Best phone I have ever had, but the network is not even 3g speed out here (even with a microcell in my house I still can not get over 1.5 MB download and we all know about the stellar upload speed)
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Willing to bet the person in the video was on a 3g network and that 4g symbol never changes (just like H+ is always on for the atrix)

azwildfire said:
Intersting results - mine were much different in Phoenix AZ.
I think in general the speedtest app is broken. When doing it on the webpage I was getting more consistantly between 15-20 MBps download and 5 MB upload.
I am actually giving back my atrix tomorrow. Best phone I have ever had, but the network is not even 3g speed out here (even with a microcell in my house I still can not get over 1.5 MB download and we all know about the stellar upload speed)
Willing to bet the person in the video was on a 3g network and that 4g symbol never changes (just like H+ is always on for the atrix)
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Except.... EV-DOrA (CDMA 3g) Never goes above 1.4mbps down

Techcruncher said:
just thought I would clear this up, The high uploads are due to the speedtest app not being able to measure LTE uploading correctly.
These scores are completely inaccurate.
It might as well say 99999999.9999999mbps upload.
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Speedtest worked fine with Evo WiMax "4G".

knarfl1 said:
Speedtest worked fine with Evo WiMax "4G".
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Those are two different technologies though

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Except.... EV-DOrA (CDMA 3g) Never goes above 1.4mbps down
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I thought it was 3.1 max. Where do you see 1.4?
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try going to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest and running it through your browser. curious to see what you'd get there.

So if the Atrix only shows H+ than why does my Atrix switch a 3g symbol everyonce in awhile for a few seconds. I dont understand it.
My data has been so bad in my area I'm getting very upset, Im about to take my phone back and try to get out of contract if they dont fix it.

live4nyy said:
Those are two different technologies though
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Explain what makes LTE different such that Speedtest does not work.

knarfl1 said:
Explain what makes LTE different such that Speedtest does not work.
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LTE uses a single channel(SC)-FDMA while WiMax still uses OFDMA for their respective uplink signaling. OFDMA is what 3G uses, hence why you can still get an accurate reading on the Evo.

correct me if im wrong but doesnt the thunderbolt have horrendous battery

jiggytom said:
I thought it was 3.1 max. Where do you see 1.4?
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I don't know what the max is but usually see 2 - 2.5 on it here in the better areas.

@shanghei
People may be able to figure that out when people actually own it.
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