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Ok I upgraded to the 2.2 upgrade off of my droid world every thing is running great. My question if will I receive the official ota considering this isn't a rom or port?
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Let me look into my crystal ball... wait I can't tellnthe future... no one can....
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See "8 Ball" APK on Android Market. Its always got the answer. LOL
Lets us know please... Hope all works for ya

I'm pretty sure that my question didn't warrant a smart ass reply from you two dip ****s. But thanks anyway.
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I would say that no one really knows for sure until we see the update

skraapz27 said:
I'm pretty sure that my question didn't warrant a smart ass reply from you two dip ****s. But thanks anyway.
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sorry to tick you off.

You should be able to udate to the OTA by using the update.zip the same way you did for the leak, if we don't get it over the air...
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cool i appreciate it i wasnt sure thats all

OTA update will/should come threw just fine. Now haivng it install correctly could be a whole different story tho as we DO NOT know the specifics on the file that was posted over the weekend everyone jumped on before it was taken down.
Put it this way tho I've had engineering units from mfgs in the past and even those update correctly OTA so I wouldn't be to concerned about it. Plus if won't take long for someone to actuaaly grab and post the update.zip once it is pushed out.

Yeah that would be good. I still haven't received mine.
will2live said:
OTA update will/should come threw just fine. Now haivng it install correctly could be a whole different story tho as we DO NOT know the specifics on the file that was posted over the weekend everyone jumped on before it was taken down.
Put it this way tho I've had engineering units from mfgs in the past and even those update correctly OTA so I wouldn't be to concerned about it. Plus if won't take long for someone to actuaaly grab and post the update.zip once it is pushed out.
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Has anyone actually gotten the OTA froyo yet? I've read things that said it was within 24 hours of the 20th... Also, when you say loading a custom theme, that doesn't mean a launcher right? Like LauncherPro?

OTA is not out yet. All previous info about release dates was just rumors.
And no, custom themes doesn't mean launchers, since those are just apps. It means actually modifying system files like framework-res.apk for different status bar, notification area, etc...

You really don't know as every company handles it differently and Moto for some reason is trying to keep the device locked down. However if you look at past phones (at least the two Androids I have had)
G1 normally you got the option to upgrade but you would lose root or would have to wait for JesusFreke to get the file and root it.
The Droid Eris there were actually 3 leaks to 2.1 all which prevented you from getting the OTA because of the boatloader #, however a couple of weeks after they finished updating everyone HTC released an OTA for all leakers (which allowed everyone to gain root conveniently enough if they wanted to downgrade and get root)
So really no one knows except Moto but normally leakers get it one way or another either through OTA or having someone upload the OTA as an update.zip file and you flash it to your phone. Hope that helps and wasn't too much of a history lesson lol

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got this from the link below and it looks like a week or two.
DROID - Android 2.2 software update
Please be aware that the updates are automatically deploying in scheduled phases.
Our current estimate is that full deployment should be completed over the next few weeks.
Also be aware that Motorola support agents are not able to push the software update directly to individual phones.
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/52058
this is for all droid devices

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got this from the link below and it looks like a week or two.
DROID - Android 2.2 software update
Please be aware that the updates are automatically deploying in scheduled phases.
Our current estimate is that full deployment should be completed over the next few weeks.
Also be aware that Motorola support agents are not able to push the software update directly to individual phones.
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/52058
this is for all droid devices

skraapz27 said:
I'm pretty sure that my question didn't warrant a smart ass reply from you two dip ****s. But thanks anyway.
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Haven't heard dip-poop in the longest lol...
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sorry for a bit off the topic
but is there anything official in regards to when 2.2 is coming out? cuz they were saying end of summer and to day is aug27th and still nothin

Summer ends September 23rd, so I am guessing very late summer. Probably some time around the second week of September, if not that last week of summer......hopefully not later than that.

chris6551 said:
got this from the link below and it looks like a week or two.
DROID - Android 2.2 software update
Please be aware that the updates are automatically deploying in scheduled phases.
Our current estimate is that full deployment should be completed over the next few weeks.
Also be aware that Motorola support agents are not able to push the software update directly to individual phones.
http://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/52058
this is for all droid devices
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I posted this already and they are saying that it should happen for all devices within the next couple weeks

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also here is the official reading of dates for the devices .
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades?view=overview

Mr. Birdman's tweet

If you guys hold off on the 2.2 OTA, ill have a pre-rooted .zip to install (will work no matter what version your on )
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can't wait, im taking the plunge.

CONFIRMED DROID2 ROOT METHOD WORKS ON DX OTA #FAILMOTO
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php/Smartphones/Motorola/Droid-2.html
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Im waiting to see if this new bootloader breaks any progress they have made so far
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if birdman is saying he'll release a 2.2 already rooted, then i'm confident that it won't break any current progress... as he's the one making the progress.

irascible said:
if birdman is saying he'll release a 2.2 already rooted, then i'm confident that it won't break any current progress... as he's the one making the progress.
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I am talking about with the bootloader, not rooting.
But I lied I couldn't wait.
I SBF'd from LEAKED 2.2 to 2.1 (DONT GO FROM OTA TO 2.1 you will get hozed).
then OTA'd to 2.2
rooted.
Installed Superuser, updated SU.
Deodexed
Installed 3 Apps (Bootstrapper, Rom manager and TBH's app)
Installed Red spinning android bootimage
Installed Big Droid X Serenity Red
Applied Bootstrap
Applied ClockWork from inside Rom Manager
Backed up
So far thats as "brave" as I have gotten. I am more worried about his tweet that Moto updated the bootloader though then anything. Hate to see it affect things like Obsidian roms progress.

I doubt it'll hamper efforts all that much. They changed keys, that's all. I'll bet koush and others will bring us a 2.2 sbf and then things will be back up and running with the ROMs running the updated keys.

I will update as soon as birdman releases his update.zip, I almost took the plunge last night until I saw his tweet. A couple questions though:
1. I have removed bloatware, altered build.prop, and themed, does that need to be undone before updating?
2. For this that have taken the plunge already are the bugs from the leaked 2.2 fixed (SMS time stamp, battery usage force closing, upload problems, etc)?

You're going to have to be back to 2.1u1 and unrooted. I'm assuming that includes having your bloatware back as well, but if you're willing to be daring then go ahead and try it without the bloatware. Maybe the push will restore that anyway and you can just remove it again after you regain root.
I'm going to just bide my time. Tranquility 2.3.5rc + Serenity + 2.3.15 is VERY snappy by itself so I'm quite happy with that.

SirBrass said:
You're going to have to be back to 2.1u1 and unrooted. I'm assuming that includes having your bloatware back as well, but if you're willing to be daring then go ahead and try it without the bloatware. Maybe the push will restore that anyway and you can just remove it again after you regain root.
I'm going to just bide my time. Tranquility 2.3.5rc + Serenity + 2.3.15 is VERY snappy by itself so I'm quite happy with that.
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Can you give some links to both tranquility 2.3.5r and Serenity please. I don't exactly know how to get them.
Thanks

SirBrass said:
You're going to have to be back to 2.1u1 and unrooted. I'm assuming that includes having your bloatware back as well, but if you're willing to be daring then go ahead and try it without the bloatware. Maybe the push will restore that anyway and you can just remove it again after you regain root.
I'm going to just bide my time. Tranquility 2.3.5rc + Serenity + 2.3.15 is VERY snappy by itself so I'm quite happy with that.
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According to his tweet it will work upgrading from any version of 2.2, so I know I will not have to go back to 2.1

I hope they changed the boot loader on the 2.2 update for the X. Push back the progress. Yay, encrypted bootloader!
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magicriggs said:
I hope they changed the boot loader on the 2.2 update for the X. Push back the progress. Yay, encrypted bootloader!
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Wow...get a life

suzook said:
Wow...get a life
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Let me explain my further reasoning of my actions. I am an android fan. Everything we want android has, that's why we like it. When motorola applied the encrypted bootloader that was one thing closer to something we don't like. Control and the lack of customization. If i wanted to be tied down to a firmware I would of gone to the iphone. Were not ever going to get pass the encrypted bootloader no full kernal port will ever come close. Changing files .apk names does not mean a full port your still using native apps. As android users we should of boycotted this product. I would love to have seen the same fate as the droid 2 - discontinued! The X is a disappoint and as android user we should of let this one pass over. The screen is ugly compared to the super amoled and the way I see it that's the main selling point on the X. So why wouldn't you switch to a better quality screen that'd only .3 inch smaller. Camera on the X is horrible for its 8 megapixel. Dual antenna is a gimmick, think about it, if you can't pick up signal with one antenna that's 2 inches away then your not going to pick sig on the other one. Point is android is a open source, motorola is closing the doors, instead of embracing and focusing development on this phone we should of directed toward another device.
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magicriggs said:
Let me explain my further reasoning of my actions. I am an android fan. Everything we want android has, that's why we like it. When motorola applied the encrypted bootloader that was one thing closer to something we don't like. Control and the lack of customization. If i wanted to be tied down to a firmware I would of gone to the iphone. Were not ever going to get pass the encrypted bootloader no full kernal port will ever come close. Changing files .apk names does not mean a full port your still using native apps. As android users we should of boycotted this product. I would love to have seen the same fate as the droid 2 - discontinued! The X is a disappoint and as android user we should of let this one pass over. The screen is ugly compared to the super amoled and the way I see it that's the main selling point on the X. So why wouldn't you switch to a better quality screen that'd only .3 inch smaller. Camera on the X is horrible for its 8 megapixel. Dual antenna is a gimmick, think about it, if you can't pick up signal with one antenna that's 2 inches away then your not going to pick sig on the other one. Point is android is a open source, motorola is closing the doors, instead of embracing and focusing development on this phone we should of directed toward another device.
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That doesn't help those of us who have this phone and don't have the $ to upgrade before our two years is up.

2.3.15 is available on the tbh app and should soon be available to the public. Serenity is available HERE on xda in the mods section.
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urufu_shinjiro said:
That doesn't help those of us who have this phone and don't have the $ to upgrade before our two years is up.
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Not to mention that the Droid x is hardly a gimmick and we'll get around that bootloader soon. Great phone that is already quite nice out of the box (sans blurware).
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Koroz said:
I am talking about with the bootloader, not rooting.
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lol, I understood that since that's the only progress left. We already have root...
/face palm

BACK on topic....
Every one see the birds tweets this morning, any one that applied the ota can never go back to 2.1. YOU WILL BRICK!
so if you hose something and cant get into recovery your stuck till the 2.2 sbf is leaked.
Im sooooooo glad i only applied the leaked .15
sorry to those that did, I would suggest not getting to ballzy in modding

SirBrass said:
2.3.15 is available on the tbh app and should soon be available to the public. Serenity is available HERE on xda in the mods section.
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when you say 2.3.15, are you talking about the rooted and deodexed "upgrade.zip" or do you mean the SBF file of it?
I thought the "upgrade.zip" was available last Sunday in their app... and was already posted to the public on MDW on like Monday or yesterday.
If the 2.3.15 SBF, that would be GREAT news.

Are we ever going to get 2.2

I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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It will get 2.2 eventually, but only time will tell how long. If we can get kernel source for the I500 phones, we should be able to get you a working kernel, and you may be able to use one of the Fascinate Froyo ROMs then. The biggest problem you'll have is getting the kernel until Samsung releases the OTA or source because of the different video driver used for the screen/ticker/soft keys.

lincoln3823 said:
I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??

sytech55 said:
I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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Well it was said that samsung was charging carriers to release ota firmware updates. I don't know how much it is true but I'm starting to believe the rumors.
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If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.

sytech55 said:
If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
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There is only 1 con of rooting. Having to re-root after an OTA update
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Yea are no cons every since I rooted my phone. I was able to freeze all of verizon garbage freeing up memory thats usually taken by crap that I don't use eg. skype and you can root and unroot as many times as you like
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?

sytech55 said:
I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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If you want, I could make a tutorial much like my one for CWM. It might take me a bit to edit it though, but better late than never XD
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Tutorials are always great. I'd love to see it.
BTW, I rooted my phone using SuperOneClick. It worked perfectly and I've verified it using Root Checker. Now my next step is I want to remove or freeze the bloatware.
I'll direct future non Subject (Are we ever going to get 2.2) related questions to appropriate Threads posting.

I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!

jodakiel said:
I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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There is no leaks available yet so the only way to get to 2.2 is to wait, or hope that Adrynalyne can get a leak.
But both imnuts and Adrynalyne are both working on custom roms so there will be some love for the continuum

Continuum
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?

tclair said:
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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samsung submitted ec17 for the fascinate to verizon...and apparently that is still in testing...im just gonna assume it ll fail testing like most of their updates and never come out
the fascinate root crowd no longer really cares though as the mesmerize 2.2 officially came out w/ source....
but it seems like continuum updates follow quickly behind fascinate updates...so if hypothetically a fascinate ota occured like this week then it would probably be soon after for the i400

Ok, I was just fine tweaking 2.1 for now until something happened and we finaly got 2.2+, since Eclair isn't really that bad. Now I am starting to see 2.2+ only apps (ones that I want to try mostly) and it's starting to make me less patient. It saddens me since this phone had so much potential with the decent hardware and interesting ticker feature, but it is quickly being left in the dust as the little android that couldn't... /sadpanda

Looks like Samsung has released the Froyo source code for the Fascinate... that could be a good sign... Of course, isn't there a Fascinate on Rogers (Canada) that has had Froyo for awhile?

I know I saw it on android central and I got excited but then again we did get left behind once before
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So how do I back up my existing rom. I'd liked to try the non bloated dl17 but want to make sure I can still get back to original if need be.
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Looks like the Fascinate update will start rolling out tomorrow.... Here's hoping we're not far behind.
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Where did you get this info?
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Gingerbread out to Testers

Looks like I didn't make the cut to be among the 1000 beta testers, dang it. I completed the survey within 15 mins of receiving the email, guess that wasn't fast enough.
Fingers crossed no issues are found and everyone gets it soon.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...erbread-update-rolls-out-to-some-users-today/

i dont know why people are acting like gingerbread isn't already here...

You don't want the OTA. The upgrade in SOAK will stop you flashing back. After its released the devs will dig into it to see what is different to the leaked OTA.
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Just because you dont have the OTA yet doesnt mean you where not picked. When its full the survey actually closes so if you filled it out you usually get the Soak. And like stated dont blindly update the OTA if you are unlocked or dont want to risk not being able to downgrade.

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i dont know why people are acting like gingerbread isn't already here...
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Maybe because our build is full of small bugs. Jus' sayin'
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Kenns gingerbread 4.5.91 for AT&T has no issues except battery jumping around. Install the patch to fix and bam perfect.
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CaelanT said:
You don't want the OTA. The upgrade in SOAK will stop you flashing back. After its released the devs will dig into it to see what is different to the leaked OTA.
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So, as of right now, I am running 1.83 with GladiAtrix, locked bootloader, and very happy.
When the OTA goes out to everybody who is on AT&T, who isn't in the SOAK, I know that I will have to flash back in order to actually get the OTA because of the changes to my file system. You are saying that this new OTA will prohibit me from being able to unlock my bootloader, when the time comes that I want to do that?

Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
With that said, didn't Moto hint to be unlocking the bootloader with the Gingerbread update?

spielnicht said:
Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
With that said, didn't Moto hint to be unlocking the bootloader with the Gingerbread update?
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they did but then ken got word from someone at motorola that they wont be

Viamonte said:
Maybe because our build is full of small bugs. Jus' sayin'
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The soak version is identical to the stock version posted here a couple weeks ago.

GatorRuss said:
So, as of right now, I am running 1.83 with GladiAtrix, locked bootloader, and very happy.
When the OTA goes out to everybody who is on AT&T, who isn't in the SOAK, I know that I will have to flash back in order to actually get the OTA because of the changes to my file system. You are saying that this new OTA will prohibit me from being able to unlock my bootloader, when the time comes that I want to do that?
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The OTA that was released a little while bricked people who tried to SBF down to a lower firmware. This OTA will most likely do the exact same thing.
I'm not sure if Pudding would work or not with this future OTA.

spielnicht said:
Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
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Take a look at the iPhone. Might be more along the lines of what you are looking for.

Jnewell05 said:
Kenns gingerbread 4.5.91 for AT&T has no issues except battery jumping around. Install the patch to fix and bam perfect.
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At&t version must be rewponsible for 30% of the market or less. I'm talking about the international version. Battery life sucks , wallpapers take a phone reset to re apply, widgets may go missing, some phones are overheating... of fourse, some have no problems at all, but this is certainly not a final release.
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Flashing around with RSD is bad in general. There wont be a reason to flash back to older builds since the bootloader is now unlocked. One little glitch while using RSD can result in a brick. Careful what you post about the Moto-OTA test. The main email said not to mention anything about the soak. This is the 4th post I have seen about it now even if you didnt get in, the NDA was still agreed too and now violated again.

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Take a look at the iPhone. Might be more along the lines of what you are looking for.
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Just because I don't care for custom ROMs doesn't mean I want a crappy OS[x]. Who made up the rule that if you own an Android phone it's a requirement to install custom ROMs. You? If so, sorry son, your argument is flawed. Go troll somewhere else.

Dirtburgler said:
Flashing around with RSD is bad in general. There wont be a reason to flash back to older builds since the bootloader is now unlocked. One little glitch while using RSD can result in a brick. Careful what you post about the Moto-OTA test. The main email said not to mention anything about the soak. This is the 4th post I have seen about it now even if you didnt get in, the NDA was still agreed too and now violated again.
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The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.

neotekz said:
The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.
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You can only take the survey after you have agreed to the NDA. He clearly stated he got the email then took the survey. Wow
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THATS NOT TRUE SO DON NOT TROLL I CAN ASSURE YOU IS NOT BYTE BY BYTE IDENTICAL
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The soak version is identical to the stock version posted here a couple weeks ago.
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spielnicht said:
Just because I don't care for custom ROMs doesn't mean I want a crappy OS[x]. Who made up the rule that if you own an Android phone it's a requirement to install custom ROMs. You? If so, sorry son, your argument is flawed. Go troll somewhere else.
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maybe you don't need an iphone, but you probably shouldn't be on xda if you're anti-rom.

neotekz said:
The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.
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lol wow, do you know how to read? go back and re read the op.

4.5.91 Upgrade - Is there a "no flash back" warning?

Since I am on KP's 4.5.91 I have not flashed the released OTA.
I see many people already bricking after installing the upgrade, then trying to flash back.
Do you get a warning either before downloading the OTA, or before installing the OTA that you cannot flash to a previous version afterwards?
If not, it's possible you could return your phone, blaming AT&T/Moto for not warning you about backwards flashing.
If there was a warning, sorry, but you will probably be SOL, and it's your own fault for trying to downgrade after installing the OTA.
A bricked device will display 0x1000 on the screen when trying to boot up.
If you see this, go here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160408

Of course not, why would Motorola put in a warning like that. Motorola never excepts you to flash back to an older firmware.
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CaelanT,
I updated to gingerbread on rooted atrix 4.1.83. I did not notice any warning as you are hoping. Though the phone's root privilege is no more, Motorola has enabled the sideloading and I am happy with that.
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Are you serious?
Why would AT&T or Motorola be to blame for you bricking your device?
There doesn't need to be a "no flash back" warning... If you're 'flashing back' you are most likely using software you're not technically supposed to have to flash firmware you're not technically supposed to have.
It's really tiring reading these forums where people blame everyone but themselves for their bricked device. (Even after the "THIS WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE" warnings..)

Technically, people shouldn't be able to flash back... we're not supposed to have RSD software or SBFs to flash in the first place.

ebaychuck said:
Why would AT&T or Motorola be to blame for you bricking your device?
There doesn't need to be a "no flash back" warning... If you're 'flashing back' you are most likely using software you're not technically supposed to have to flash firmware you're not technically supposed to have.
It's really tiring reading these forums where people blame everyone but themselves for their bricked device. (Even after the "THIS WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE" warnings..)
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Because technically, if they do not warn you that you can ruin your device by flashing to an earlier version, you have a case to sue them if you so choose to go that route. It's their failure to secure the software, updates, and upgrades they have which allows people to flash something you say they should not have, but is freely available to download through software update. Please do not spout what you hear from other people and think this makes you knowledgeable in any way. There are many legal implications with Moto and AT&T not disclosing what their updates/upgrades will or will not do, especially when they say "you will have unlock ability", then switch that at release with no warning, or for any number of reasons.
I can see you have a large contribution to this community by the grand sum of 5 posts which you have.
Now, I am trying to help some of the people out here who were obviously stupid enough to blindly flash an update released to them without first consulting XDA, because of course when you buy the Atrix it tells you to consult XDA on any matters relating to the Atrix!
Go back to ebay where you belong chuck!
BTW..........yes, I am very serious!

So the boot loader on the OTA is still Locked?!!!

yeah you could try that argument. they could give you the run around that you flashed using stuff not from their site or from their customer service portal and there could be some line in the warranty that would cover their ass from that stuff. but hey, worth a shot.

I updated to ota 4.5.9.1 during the soak and there was a big warning on the website, but nothing that I remember seeing when I downloaded and installed the software. They know the risk obviously. Surprised they wouldn't cover their behind during the install.
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sservati said:
So the boot loader on the OTA is still Locked?!!!
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Yes it is.
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CaelanT said:
Because technically, if they do not warn you that you can ruin your device by flashing to an earlier version, you have a case to sue them if you so choose to go that route. It's their failure to secure the software, updates, and upgrades they have which allows people to flash something you say they should not have, but is freely available to download through software update. Please do not spout what you hear from other people and think this makes you knowledgeable in any way. There are many legal implications with Moto and AT&T not disclosing what their updates/upgrades will or will not do, especially when they say "you will have unlock ability", then switch that at release with no warning, or for any number of reasons.
I can see you have a large contribution to this community by the grand sum of 5 posts which you have.
Now, I am trying to help some of the people out here who were obviously stupid enough to blindly flash an update released to them without first consulting XDA, because of course when you buy the Atrix it tells you to consult XDA on any matters relating to the Atrix!
Go back to ebay where you belong chuck!
BTW..........yes, I am very serious!
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As many people have said.. Motorola does not give you any offical path to unlock your bootloader and flash a previous version. People like XDA do.
I have no problem with putting a custom Rom on my phone. I've hacked every device since my first Windows CE pda. The problem I have is with people like you that want to Sue Motorola because they... What? Told you to unlock your bootloader and try to flash unsupported software? No, they didn't.
Oh, and by the way please show me where you got the Official Motorola Atrix Unlock from.

ebaychuck said:
As many people have said.. Motorola does not give you any offical path to unlock your bootloader and flash a previous version. People like XDA do.
I have no problem with putting a custom Rom on my phone. I've hacked every device since my first Windows CE pda. The problem I have is with people like you that want to Sue Motorola because they... What? Told you to unlock your bootloader and try to flash unsupported software? No, they didn't.
Oh, and by the way please show me where you got the Official Motorola Atrix Unlock from.
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The unlocked Bootloader is one thing, the fact that some users are bricking their phones after using OTA's is another.
Granted the 0X1000 is coming more from XDA users who have flashed, but Motorola needs to embrace the Android community better.
I'm not a fanboy of any company by any means, currently I own both a SGS and an Atrix.
^ With that said, Motorola needs to be a little more like Samsung.
* Paying attention to forums like XDA would be a start. Giving phones for free to developers would be another. (Samsung had no problem doing this).
*Getting rid of the bootloader FOREVER would also be in their best interest.
* Finally not forcing MotoBlur accounts down people's throats would be a friendlier approach as well.
Android consumers have helped Motorola get back in the game.
It's time for Motorola to repay the favor and start treating Android like "Android", and not like an iPhone...

sservati said:
So the boot loader on the OTA is still Locked?!!!
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From what I've been reading, yes...

ccrows said:
The unlocked Bootloader is one thing, the fact that some users are bricking their phones after using OTA's is another.
Granted the 0X1000 is coming more from XDA users who have flashed, but Motorola needs to embrace the Android community better.
I'm not a fanboy of any company by any means, currently I own both a SGS and an Atrix.
^ With that said, Motorola needs to be a little more like Samsung.
* Paying attention to forums like XDA would be a start. Giving phones for free to developers would be another. (Samsung had no problem doing this).
*Getting rid of the bootloader FOREVER would also be in their best interest.
* Finally not forcing MotoBlur accounts down people's throats would be a friendlier approach as well.
Android consumers have helped Motorola get back in the game.
It's time for Motorola to repay the favor and start treating Android like "Android", and not like an iPhone...
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Yeah, it would be nice if they'd support their more advanced users like Samsung and HTC have been doing. It seems like they are about to make some kind of change with Motoblur so maybe they'll ease up on the requirement to use it.

ebaychuck said:
Yeah, it would be nice if they'd support their more advanced users like Samsung and HTC have been doing. It seems like they are about to make some kind of change with Motoblur so maybe they'll ease up on the requirement to use it.
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I've seen the Motoblur "improvements", but you still need an account, which is BS. Plus its a waste of time to freeze things in TiBU.
Between the last OTA that bricked many phones and the current Motoblur BS, I hope we can get Vanilla Gingerbread on this device more than ever. This will definitely be my last Motoblur phone I ever purchase.
Don't get me wrong I like Motorola a lot, but I also like to have a drama free phone...

I have a question for everyone that upgraded to GB.
After reading about the bugs in GB (like the "battery jumping issue" for instance) -
If you "could" go back to Froyo's latest build, would you do it or are you happier with the current GB?...

Nah.
ccrows said:
I have a question for everyone that upgraded to GB.
After reading about the bugs in GB (like the "battery jumping issue" for instance) -
If you "could" go back to Froyo's latest build, would you do it or are you happier with the current GB?...
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Even with the few problems i'm enjoying having GB.. I guess I just like something new to look at.
I only miss a few things.
- The Happenings page that used to be attached to contacts. It was nice to be able to see the last post a friend made when calling them.
- Access control in Wireless Tether. (I can't remember if it worked on the Atrix or just my previous phone)
- Working Wired Tether..
- Setting review time on the camera.

CaelanT said:
Since I am on KP's 4.5.91 I have not flashed the released OTA.
I see many people already bricking after installing the upgrade, then trying to flash back.
Do you get a warning either before downloading the OTA, or before installing the OTA that you cannot flash to a previous version afterwards?
If not, it's possible you could return your phone, blaming AT&T/Moto for not warning you about backwards flashing.
If there was a warning, sorry, but you will probably be SOL, and it's your own fault for trying to downgrade after installing the OTA.
A bricked device will display 0x1000 on the screen when trying to boot up.
If you see this, go here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160408
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"Hi Motorola, I'm using non-public tools that have been leaked, and non-public SBF files that have been gotten in an unofficial capacity to downgrade my phone after the latest update. I'm not breaking my warranty, am I?"