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Lets Ask HTC for NexusOne SPL on Incredible

Hello everybidy as Froyo is just gona Release it will take ages for HTC to upgrade our Incredible and also we are missing on rooted OS.
The only solution to the date is asking HTC for Nexus One type SPL and which is perfectly as far as Legality and After Sale Service Issue is concerned as you Unlock SPL Warrenty is void.
Lets ask HTC to allot us new SPL like Nexus One which Support
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fastboot oem unlock
so we then flash the .img file directly and Enjoy Incredible to the fullest
Ask HTC over
http://facebook.com/htc
and
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless

let us know how you make out with that...

jrebeiro said:
let us know how you make out with that...
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Don't be cynical, anything's possible..

See my Previous Efforts of the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3005712&postcount=9
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2931428&postcount=25
and Finally this one
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1266

They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.

heavensblade23 said:
They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.
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Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.

.mak said:
Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.
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You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.

heavensblade23 said:
You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.
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I believe they're talking about the disclaimer that you get when you unlock a nexus one. HTC will refuse to warranty most nexus ones if the bootloader is unlocked.... and thats the risk im willing to take

But you have to remember that Verizon will get say in that as well and they do not like people messing with their stuff. It's a long shot....
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Actually, I already have the cdma nexus one hboot. But it's useless to us until we can flash to start. The version is pretty far from the HTC one as well so it's useless in our attempts. Stay patient.

Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.

dephtones said:
Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question

I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.

Hey OP while were at it why dont we ask htc for a bigger screen too, heck maybe they can turn our phones into EVO's........ J/K

it will happen in time gotta patient

RLKirk said:
It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question
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After getting used to how everyone acted on the G1 forums, you are my nominee for most helpful XDA user, simply by stating "no question is a dumb question "

dephtones said:
I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.
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Root will happen. As is, this phone is far from obsolete. 2.2 still needs to be released on an actual device before its mature enough for daily use. Trust me, I went to 2.1 way too early on my last device and it sucked. Then 2.1 devices came out and all of the sudden it was good enough for daily use.

Start Shouting at this Accounts for Incredible root
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless

There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.

morkon said:
There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.
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I agree. Not only does it enable things VZW disabled intentionally but it increases the chances for issues that can lead to unsatified customers and returns.
HTC probably wouldn't want to go against their customer who is VZW not us. We buy from VZW not HTC.
We just have to trust in our developer community and hope they are able to accomplish root in the near future. I believe every HTC Android device has been rooted in the past so why would the Incredible be any different.
I remember reading an artible about how the G1 would never be able to be upgraded to 1.6 and devs got that phone running 2.1 so I am hopeful

Leaked Version Gets No update.?.

I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.

xxjekelxx said:
I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.
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Yeah man, what you read is true. Good ole' Moto has decided to block us out. Luckily we can always downgrade and then OTA.
All I need is someone to post a video on how to do this. Step by Step like am a complete noob with no idea of what is going on. Anyone up for the challenge?

wouldn't you just use rsd lite and flash the sbf back to stock. Also what if this is a trap set up by motorola to get people back on their software. Im thinking...since motorola is so shady, anyway....that its just a little fishy. After the eris leak, i think a lot of people are pretty certain on a way out before they flash something. You would think that motorola would know this as well....im just sayin'

You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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Joe92T said:
You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.

To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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Thought I'd add the link from engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/motorola-says-leaked-droid-x-android-2-2-build-wont-be-updated/
I totally love my X, but Motorola's over-the-top hostility towards the modding community is starting to wear on me. I know that they could give two ****s about having me as a customer, but I am considering moving on to a Fascinate.

Joe92T said:
To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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that stinks! If they did that, I may be screwed in terms of resale value.

To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before

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Just found this from AndroidLive:
The Motorola Support Forums mentioned the following today…
"WARNING: Do NOT load the leaked 2.2 upgrade that has been floating around on the Internets. There is currently no upgrade path from that load to the official 2.2 load that will be released by early September. Unless you have some plan to flash your phone back to the current official load, you could be stuck on the leaked version."
So obviously we will in fact be able to flash back to 2.1 to get the official upgrade if we wish

MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.

"has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before"
The X is the 3rd android model i've owned on verizon, and i've never seen them do that.
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xxjekelxx said:
MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.
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I couldnt agree more
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Even if we did get blocked out (I doubt it, besides there is always a way around) why bother yourself too much with it. Those of us who loaded the leaked version obviously didn't have a problem with using leaked software. We will just load the future versions when they are leaked...

gw4k said:
I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.
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In response to the needing directions...look up "Droid X SBF File released" on these forums to find them. I would link it for you but I can't post links yet and I also don't want to just post the directions as if I was taking credit for them.

How does this even matter? There's a few ROMs in the works and we have custom recovery up and running. There will undoubtedly be a "vanilla" ROM coming out soon enough, and once that stuff hits, are you really gonna be like "OH NOES I NEED TO INSTALL THE STOCK OTA UPDATE!"? No, you're not. On top of that, worst case scenario: you just SBF flash and then install the OTA updates. "Problem" solved.

This strange, its probably the same build. Therefore no ota lol. Just a thought.
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Like some here, I could care less knowing that it will come full of bloatware and blur... which no one likes. Oh, and that we will be getting even better firmware from folks like Birdman and p3Droid
MOTOROLA- YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF for letting such good hardware be sold with such an unusable UI.
When I flash stock and blur is running with all of its widgets up the yin-yang, I can't hardly imagine it is the same phone as to what I, and others, have made the phone what it could be.
I almost feel embarrassed to state I am a X owner when I am not talking to a fellow android user and they know nothing of the phone other than what they saw in the store=CRAP.

Out of all of us who want custom ROMs and made the effort to flash the leaked Froyo build who really cares if Moto blocks us out. Fact is we rooted our phoens and wanted Froyo so we did what needed to be done. To further add most of us I'm sure are removing all there crap bloatware to begin with. Bottom line IMO is piss on the Moto/VZW update. If it is anything like what was relesased on the phone it will be garbage and we don't want it anyways.
And as mentioned if people really want the OTA update not a big deal to SBF flash the .604 2.1 file and yo uwill be fine to get the update. Oh and for everyone reference the leaked Froyo build we have is NOT the official OTA update there is at least one or 2 newer builds already.

Ota brings sideloading to at&t!!!!

YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/

Not the atrix :/
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know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060

Techcruncher said:
YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
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Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!

People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.

dLo GSR said:
know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
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To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.

blindguyinanorgy said:
To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
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well, if you want to enable sideloading right now, you have to root. =P

CaelanT said:
Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
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For pre-emptive complaining of course!

KefkaticFanatic said:
People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
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Not touchy. The OP is saying after reading this article that the Atrix is one of the phones. It is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Nobody is being touchy. People just need to stop posting "assumed" crap and post facts. Other people need to stop assuming that the assumptions are correct and posting not one iota of supporting evidence.
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In retrospect, you're probably right. Sorry about that. At least there's some news of hope on the horizon ^.^

I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.

KefkaticFanatic said:
I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
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I was glad to see someone not let their anger at AT&T fly back at the OP so they update some of their older phones that are probably easier to do at this point. This is obviously a sign that they have realized they cant treat us like Apple does. If we really want open phones we can and will have them. So they are going to just give them too us open. It will probably cut down on warranty claims from stupid people doing shoddy jobs of rooting and flashing their phones. Im sure motorola wont leave us hanging theyve taken good care of me so far. so just be patient.

Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"

sifon187 said:
Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
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Zing!
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I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S

Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?

billd104 said:
Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
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I manually ran the OTA update for my wife's HTC Aria this morning. No joy. It just searched for what seemed like 10 minutes before I quit it.

Techcruncher said:
I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
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Um, you can't get stuck on FroYo for rooting. If you deodex/install a P-ROM, you'll have to flash back to stock, however.
I haven't seen anyone get completely bricked by modding the Atrix. There's almost no risk if you understand what you're doing currently. It's not like the Captivate where you might get the black screen of death and have to make a jig.

Considering the extensive testing that AT&T requires before allowing firmware updates to be released, along with the fact that 4.1.83 was literally just released, its not surprising to see the Atrix not on the list.
I also agree with the bootloader thing, if AT&T was the reason it was locked, Motorola now has some incentive to unlock it. Not that they definitely would though, as other motorola devices on other carriers show.

UPDATE:
New article with word that the Atrix will be updated as well.

Debunking the Atrix Myths!

1.Bootloader!
The bootloader of the atrix CANNOT be relocked after it is unlocked! Yes, I know if you flash a stock SBF file the "Unlocked" text will be gone, but it is not relocked!
Explanation/Elaboration: When you flash the pudding file, what you are flashing is a bootloader. When you key in oem unlock ******, you BLOW a fuse. Non-reversible. Hardware based, not software. So, when the 'pudding' bootloader runs, it sees the burnt fuse and knows the phone is unlocked, thus printing the "unlocked" text. When you flash back to stock, the stock bootloader doesn't even care about that fuse, and WILL NOT skip signature check in fastboot aka locked.
This WILL NOT REVERT your phone back to stock, the stock bootloader just doesn't care if you are unlocked or not. Motorola can easily check if your phone is unlocked, but USUALLY will not. DO NOT BLAME ME IF THEY DO FOR YOU! Now, stop going around saying "my phone can be relocked" =)
2. Hard brick
If you OTA to Gingerbread, and downgrade back to FroYo, you WILL get a HARD BRICK! Also, updating to v4.5.141 and than unlocking the bootloader will also cause a hard brick!
Explanation/Elaboration: Yes, it the damn fuses again When you update to Gingerbread you will BLOW a fuse in ReservedOdm[1]. If you downgrade to FroYo, you will get an Error "SVF:105:1:2" Mainly what that means is that at the lower part of the Odm[1] called 105, the bootloader expects the fuse to be '1' but found out its actually '2'. It then refuses to boot, sending the phone into NvFlash mode, which we cannot use as we require a SBK from moto.
Reference:Thanks eval-!
3.Xoom ICS release
The release of ICS for the Motorola Xoom does not help in any major way to the development of ICS on the Atrix.
Explanation/Elaboration: Yes, we do need the ICS kernel for Tegra 2. Yes, the Xoom uses Tegra 2. No, they are not the same. The atrix uses the Tegra 250 AP20H while the Xoom uses the Tegra 250 T20. Yes, the one on the Atrix is slower, but more importantly, different! (Thanks live4nyy!)
4.Carrier Unlocking the Atrix (NOT BOOTLOADER UNLOCK)
This is less of a myth, more of a guide. If you CANNOT unlock the Atrix even with the code provided (I can/will not provide), do NOT keep trying. All you are doing is wasting the number of tries you can try before the phone will not accept any more tries. What you should do is flash to an AT&T rom/radio and try again. This is assuming you want to unlock the AT&T version of the Atrix of course. Once unlocked, the Atrix can be flashed to your hearts content and will not be re-locked. (Thanks Abu-7abash!)
Any other widely mistaken facts about the atrix you want corrected?

Nice, straight forward write-up. Hopefully this helps some of the n00bs get this info through their head

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I got one.
Myth - The Xoom having ICS will help in the development of the Atrix.
Fact - Just because the Xoom is a Tegra 2 device and running ICS does not help (or is very minimal* ) development to the Atrix.
* I don't know the exact details but I'm sure this is the gist of it.

UFOs > Bigfoot

matthew5025 said:
1.Bootloader!
When you flash the pudding file, what you are flashing is a bootloader. When you key in oem unlock ******, you BLOW a fuse. Non-reversible.
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I'm curious. So this fuse that blows in the phone when flashed, is the only purpose of this fuse is to identify an unlocked phone? Is this fuse added to the phone by Motorola or are they required by the carriers to install these fuses?

stang5150 said:
I'm curious. So this fuse that blows in the phone when flashed, is the only purpose of this fuse is to identify an unlocked phone? Is this fuse added to the phone by Motorola or are they required by the carriers to install these fuses?
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eFuse is an IBM invention. I posted a lengthy explanation of this a long long time ago after verifying the Atrix was using eFuse technology. When you read eval's explanation it is very accurate, except that you cannot "burn a bit". You could "set a bit" which sends the signal to overload the hardware circuit.
Carrier can specify they want a locked bootloader or not. I believe the method could be up to the manufacturer, but carrier may also specify type of bootloader lock. Of course, manufacturer may have an internal policy that all phones have a locked bootloader, but include provisions for unlocking it.
eFuse does not blow a fuse per se. This implies there is an actual fuse in the phone. eFuse (electronic fuse) is a circuit built into a chip inside the phone. When you unlock the bootloader a very small electrical charge is sent to that circuit and simply overloads it and burns it out. eFuse technology is not solely used for bootloaders. They are in many more electronic devices than you may think. eFuse is both software and hardware based. Software sends the signal, hardware circuit is blown, software checks this circuit on boot-up, when the circuit cannot be completed the software knows this, and reports, in the case of a phone, that the bootloader is unlocked.
Now, that said, this thread just serves as another one for idiots to read and ignore. All the info posted here has already been posted in a hundred other threads. Giving "myths" their own thread will just serve to create more inaccuracies as people post "myths" that they really know nothing about. Who is to say that anything posted here is any more accurate from one person to another? Sorry OP, but "myths" may actually become myths in here.
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This ^^^^^^^! LOL

matthew5025 said:
2. Hard brick
If you OTA to Gingerbread, and downgrade back to FroYo, you WILL get a HARD BRICK!
Explanation/Elaboration: Yes, it the damn fuses again When you update to Gingerbread you will BLOW a fuse in ReservedOdm[1]. If you downgrade to FroYo, you will get an Error "SVF:105:1:2" Mainly what that means is that at the lower part of the Odm[1] called 105, the bootloader expects the fuse to be '1' but found out its actually '2'. It then refuses to boot, sending the phone into NvFlash mode, which we cannot use as we require a SBK from moto.
Reference:Thanks eval-!
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Well as far as I know UK version is safe to flash back to froyo. I went back from 2.3 to froyo sbf few times myself and few other people confirmed this aswell.
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Never upgraded OTA so my post is useles...nice!

matthew5025 said:
1.Bootloader!
The bootloader of the atrix CANNOT be relocked after it is unlocked! Yes, I know if you flash a stock SBF file the "Unlocked" text will be gone, but it is not relocked!
Explanation/Elaboration: When you flash the pudding file, what you are flashing is a bootloader. When you key in oem unlock ******, you BLOW a fuse. Non-reversible. Hardware based, not software. So, when the 'pudding' bootloader runs, it sees the burnt fuse and knows the phone is unlocked, thus printing the "unlocked" text. When you flash back to stock, the stock bootloader doesn't even care about that fuse, and WILL NOT skip signature check in fastboot aka locked.
This WILL NOT REVERT your phone back to stock, the stock bootloader just doesn't care if you are unlocked or not. Motorola can easily check if your phone is unlocked, but USUALLY will not. DO NOT BLAME ME IF THEY DO FOR YOU! Now, stop going around saying "my phone can be relocked" =)
2. Hard brick
If you OTA to Gingerbread, and downgrade back to FroYo, you WILL get a HARD BRICK!
Explanation/Elaboration: Yes, it the damn fuses again When you update to Gingerbread you will BLOW a fuse in ReservedOdm[1]. If you downgrade to FroYo, you will get an Error "SVF:105:1:2" Mainly what that means is that at the lower part of the Odm[1] called 105, the bootloader expects the fuse to be '1' but found out its actually '2'. It then refuses to boot, sending the phone into NvFlash mode, which we cannot use as we require a SBK from moto.
Reference:Thanks eval-!
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Oem lock ******
Tried?
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Hey Matthew, thanks for the info- I am going to Singapore on Sat for the airshow. Are there cool spots out there to get good deals on accessories for our atrix>? LOL

Not only Atrix related but a general fact, when you sim unlock a phone (atrix included) it won't ever get locked again no matter how/what roms you flash.
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jgc121 said:
Nice, straight forward write-up. Hopefully this helps some of the n00bs get this info through their head
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Thanks! Its annoying the way they keep repeating the same stuff over and over again isn't it? Drives me up the wall!
live4nyy said:
I got one.
Myth - The Xoom having ICS will help in the development of the Atrix.
Fact - Just because the Xoom is a Tegra 2 device and running ICS does not help (or is very minimal* ) development to the Atrix.
* I don't know the exact details but I'm sure this is the gist of it.
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Thanks! Will include that point!
CaelanT said:
Now, that said, this thread just serves as another one for idiots to read and ignore. All the info posted here has already been posted in a hundred other threads. Giving "myths" their own thread will just serve to create more inaccuracies as people post "myths" that they really know nothing about. Who is to say that anything posted here is any more accurate from one person to another? Sorry OP, but "myths" may actually become myths in here.
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The reason I created this thread is so that the next time I want to correct someone, I just link them here, instead of typing out the whole thing again.
On a separate note, I see you are really active on in the Atrix community, helping others. I would like to thank you, a person who is knowledgeable, taking time to answer their questions. Can't say the some about myself.
guidoido004 said:
Oem lock ******
Tried?
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ssmr2t said:
Hey Matthew, thanks for the info- I am going to Singapore on Sat for the airshow. Are there cool spots out there to get good deals on accessories for our atrix>? LOL
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Isn't it next Saturday? And the iPhone is the "hottest" phone here, accessories for iPhones, yes, Atrix, little.
Abu-7abash said:
Not only Atrix related but a general fact, when you sim unlock a phone (atrix included) it won't ever get locked again no matter how/what roms you flash.
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Thanks! Will include that!

Oh I will be exhibiting there for my company Tues-Friday.. I think Sat is public day.
Booo... I was hoping to get a nice atrix toys while I was out there

ssmr2t said:
Oh I will be exhibiting there for my company Tues-Friday.. I think Sat is public day.
Booo... I was hoping to get a nice atrix toys while I was out there
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hey, hey, hey. get a room, you two. keep this thread myth related.

motorola razr M prototype?

hi everyone, so i recently saw motorola razr m. the thing is, it had motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it was running jellybean. just the markings were a bit curious, if someone can shed some light on what it was. thanks !

mikeverne said:
hi everyone, so i recently bought a second hand motorola razr m. the thing is, it has motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it works totally fine, gsm unlocked and its running jellybean. everything runs as it should, just the markings are a bit curious. ive attached a pic to see if someone can shed some light on what it is. thanks !
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757

Somber73 said:
Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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yea i saw that too. but that doesn't really tell me anything apart from the fact that other phones like mine were also sold(which i already knew).

It would be best to just drop the subject. You have something rare, and if you want to keep it, I would keep it quiet. The guys on the Motorola forum are launching a pretty big investigation into this. I would delete your pic and edit your OP. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone illegal activity, but there is a reason these are out in the open...

Regardless of the circumstances surrounding where or how he got the phone, there ought to be someplace where this guy can get answers as to its origin or what it is exactly without everybody overreacting.
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!

It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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cellzealot said:
It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
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thank you! and btw, that wasn't me who posted in the official forums lol. thats the lase place i would think of posting if i had a prototype haha.
sloosecannon said:
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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thank you! and yea, i agree.

that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.

jco23 said:
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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uh, actually im pretty sure he is telling the truth. its sort of a Pakistani craigslist.

RSD is proprietary software, owned by Motorola. While I know it's very easy to find online, it's not intended for public use. The rules of this site forbid discussion of software installation or use unless that software is distributed by Motorola or one of its partners.
That pretty much sums it up. Had he come to xda, he'd have gotten help. He didn't seem too open to helping the Motorola guys out though, so they didn't help him. Don't see why he would lie about that, he's just a poor guy who wants his confidential Motorola property to work for him... By asking the people that someone stole it from... Yeah...
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guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?

dasche said:
guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
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Nope. Since it's factory unlocked, you should be able to install TWRP and go about flashing whatever you want. It might be a wiser choice to buy a regular handset, since you want have Motorola property all over the front.