I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
Sent from my Rooted space time Continuum w/ 2600mAh battery
It will get 2.2 eventually, but only time will tell how long. If we can get kernel source for the I500 phones, we should be able to get you a working kernel, and you may be able to use one of the Fascinate Froyo ROMs then. The biggest problem you'll have is getting the kernel until Samsung releases the OTA or source because of the different video driver used for the screen/ticker/soft keys.
lincoln3823 said:
I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
Sent from my Rooted space time Continuum w/ 2600mAh battery
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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Well it was said that samsung was charging carriers to release ota firmware updates. I don't know how much it is true but I'm starting to believe the rumors.
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If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
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If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
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There is only 1 con of rooting. Having to re-root after an OTA update
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Yea are no cons every since I rooted my phone. I was able to freeze all of verizon garbage freeing up memory thats usually taken by crap that I don't use eg. skype and you can root and unroot as many times as you like
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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If you want, I could make a tutorial much like my one for CWM. It might take me a bit to edit it though, but better late than never XD
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Tutorials are always great. I'd love to see it.
BTW, I rooted my phone using SuperOneClick. It worked perfectly and I've verified it using Root Checker. Now my next step is I want to remove or freeze the bloatware.
I'll direct future non Subject (Are we ever going to get 2.2) related questions to appropriate Threads posting.
I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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There is no leaks available yet so the only way to get to 2.2 is to wait, or hope that Adrynalyne can get a leak.
But both imnuts and Adrynalyne are both working on custom roms so there will be some love for the continuum
Continuum
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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samsung submitted ec17 for the fascinate to verizon...and apparently that is still in testing...im just gonna assume it ll fail testing like most of their updates and never come out
the fascinate root crowd no longer really cares though as the mesmerize 2.2 officially came out w/ source....
but it seems like continuum updates follow quickly behind fascinate updates...so if hypothetically a fascinate ota occured like this week then it would probably be soon after for the i400
Ok, I was just fine tweaking 2.1 for now until something happened and we finaly got 2.2+, since Eclair isn't really that bad. Now I am starting to see 2.2+ only apps (ones that I want to try mostly) and it's starting to make me less patient. It saddens me since this phone had so much potential with the decent hardware and interesting ticker feature, but it is quickly being left in the dust as the little android that couldn't... /sadpanda
Looks like Samsung has released the Froyo source code for the Fascinate... that could be a good sign... Of course, isn't there a Fascinate on Rogers (Canada) that has had Froyo for awhile?
I know I saw it on android central and I got excited but then again we did get left behind once before
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So how do I back up my existing rom. I'd liked to try the non bloated dl17 but want to make sure I can still get back to original if need be.
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Looks like the Fascinate update will start rolling out tomorrow.... Here's hoping we're not far behind.
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Where did you get this info?
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I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.
xxjekelxx said:
I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.
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Yeah man, what you read is true. Good ole' Moto has decided to block us out. Luckily we can always downgrade and then OTA.
All I need is someone to post a video on how to do this. Step by Step like am a complete noob with no idea of what is going on. Anyone up for the challenge?
wouldn't you just use rsd lite and flash the sbf back to stock. Also what if this is a trap set up by motorola to get people back on their software. Im thinking...since motorola is so shady, anyway....that its just a little fishy. After the eris leak, i think a lot of people are pretty certain on a way out before they flash something. You would think that motorola would know this as well....im just sayin'
You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.
To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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Thought I'd add the link from engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/motorola-says-leaked-droid-x-android-2-2-build-wont-be-updated/
I totally love my X, but Motorola's over-the-top hostility towards the modding community is starting to wear on me. I know that they could give two ****s about having me as a customer, but I am considering moving on to a Fascinate.
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To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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that stinks! If they did that, I may be screwed in terms of resale value.
To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before
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Just found this from AndroidLive:
The Motorola Support Forums mentioned the following today…
"WARNING: Do NOT load the leaked 2.2 upgrade that has been floating around on the Internets. There is currently no upgrade path from that load to the official 2.2 load that will be released by early September. Unless you have some plan to flash your phone back to the current official load, you could be stuck on the leaked version."
So obviously we will in fact be able to flash back to 2.1 to get the official upgrade if we wish
MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.
"has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before"
The X is the 3rd android model i've owned on verizon, and i've never seen them do that.
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MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.
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I couldnt agree more
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Even if we did get blocked out (I doubt it, besides there is always a way around) why bother yourself too much with it. Those of us who loaded the leaked version obviously didn't have a problem with using leaked software. We will just load the future versions when they are leaked...
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I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.
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In response to the needing directions...look up "Droid X SBF File released" on these forums to find them. I would link it for you but I can't post links yet and I also don't want to just post the directions as if I was taking credit for them.
How does this even matter? There's a few ROMs in the works and we have custom recovery up and running. There will undoubtedly be a "vanilla" ROM coming out soon enough, and once that stuff hits, are you really gonna be like "OH NOES I NEED TO INSTALL THE STOCK OTA UPDATE!"? No, you're not. On top of that, worst case scenario: you just SBF flash and then install the OTA updates. "Problem" solved.
This strange, its probably the same build. Therefore no ota lol. Just a thought.
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Like some here, I could care less knowing that it will come full of bloatware and blur... which no one likes. Oh, and that we will be getting even better firmware from folks like Birdman and p3Droid
MOTOROLA- YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF for letting such good hardware be sold with such an unusable UI.
When I flash stock and blur is running with all of its widgets up the yin-yang, I can't hardly imagine it is the same phone as to what I, and others, have made the phone what it could be.
I almost feel embarrassed to state I am a X owner when I am not talking to a fellow android user and they know nothing of the phone other than what they saw in the store=CRAP.
Out of all of us who want custom ROMs and made the effort to flash the leaked Froyo build who really cares if Moto blocks us out. Fact is we rooted our phoens and wanted Froyo so we did what needed to be done. To further add most of us I'm sure are removing all there crap bloatware to begin with. Bottom line IMO is piss on the Moto/VZW update. If it is anything like what was relesased on the phone it will be garbage and we don't want it anyways.
And as mentioned if people really want the OTA update not a big deal to SBF flash the .604 2.1 file and yo uwill be fine to get the update. Oh and for everyone reference the leaked Froyo build we have is NOT the official OTA update there is at least one or 2 newer builds already.
Our cousin from a slightly different mother launchers in a matter of a week or so. It will be interesting to see what this launchers with (2.2, Bing, etc).
This could possibly fall in line with the supposed Galaxy S 2.2 roll out over the month. It will also be interesting to see how the secondary display instead of soft keys plays out.
http://i.engadget.com/2010/11/02/full-samsung-continuum-specs-leak-out-in-verizon-comparison-char/
This thing is kind of ridiculous. It seems to literally be the same device as the fascinate, but with an added 96x480 ticker. I could see how that would be useful, but the thing just looks silly. If that spec sheet is to be believed, it's launching with 2.1 which essentially guarantees bing as the integrated search engine.
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I remember reading somewhere recently that the Continuum would only have a 3.4 inch screen, not 4 inches like ours. I'm sure that was done to make room for the smaller screen without making the phone too big to handle. I dunno about you, but I'd take the 4 inch screen over a smaller one with a ticker screen any day.
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Right now I wouldn't change my Fascinate for any phone on any network. I love this phone. I do want 2.2 though lol
andersonrt said:
Right now I wouldn't change my Fascinate for any phone on any network. I love this phone. I do want 2.2 though lol
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Definitely Agree'd!!
Samsung wanted to make sure to compete with itself, just in case anyone was thinking twice about buying an iPhone.
it has a smaller screen and still has 2.1 + bing, so i don't see the draw as the ticker, while a neat idea, duplicates the function of the notification bar, and seems pointless (to me at least)
plus in some of the early videos, it seemed like a fatter phone.
from what's known to be in the pipeline on verizon for the rest of the 2nd generation android phones, i don't see anything enticing.
The only phone that can tempt me away from this is a 4g LTE phone, hopefully it will come next year.
andersonrt said:
Right now I wouldn't change my Fascinate for any phone on any network. I love this phone. I do want 2.2 though lol
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I promise that you week be saying that you want gingerbread after we get froyo. Also, I don't see any major changes for the fascinate change with froyo.
RacerXFD said:
I promise that you week be saying that you want gingerbread after we get froyo. Also, I don't see any major changes for the fascinate change with froyo.
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Idk, I moved from an htc desire running cyanogen 6.1 (froyo 2.2) to a samsung mesmerize running 2.1 and there are definitely things I miss about froyo. One of the biggest is chrome-to-phone but there are also many small ui improvements that I miss. The hardware on the Mesmerize/Fascinate more than makes the switch worth it though
~ Sophos
This stuff really clutters up the development forum on XDA. Post this in general. This is why most of our devs are now releasing things on other websites FYI. So please, keep it in general or even just the android section. And to say its fascinate related because you wonder what it will do to the development of our phone is complete crap. I could literally relate my last crap I took to the development of this phone if I really wanted to. Kthanxbai
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This stuff really clutters up the development forum on XDA. Post this in general. This is why most of our devs are now releasing things on other websites FYI. So please, keep it in general or even just the android section. And to say its fascinate related because you wonder what it will do to the development of our phone is complete crap. I could literally relate my last crap I took to the development of this phone if I really wanted to. Kthanxbai
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Quite true, I could have posted it in general, but figured it could also play a role in Android development if the system is different.
Having admins on hand to move stuff around helps as well.
Continuum Root
Okay I've had my Continuum for a day now and I'm ready to root. Anyone tried any of the other Galaxy S roots yet? Anyone have one? I'm upgrading from a hacked Omnia, so I'm new to the whole rooting thing.
You may want to try the z4root app in the market...
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Z4 WILL work on the continuim
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I am attempting to root my Samsung Continuum using z4root right now, been going to about 30 mins now, just says "Running exploit in order to obtain root access" at the bottom of the screen and the circle in the middle is spinning lik3 it is doing something. How long should this process take?
Can a admin create a Continuum forum?
You will have to restart the program. I used this on my girfriends phone and it took like 2 mins tops.
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Hell, took 3 tries on my fascinate...
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I have tried z4root like 6 times on my Continuum with no success. I did a factory reset and cleared cache hoping that would help but still no success. USB debugging is turned on. Any suggestions? thanks.
SoLo
solo24 said:
I have tried z4root like 6 times on my Continuum with no success. I did a factory reset and cleared cache hoping that would help but still no success. USB debugging is turned on. Any suggestions? thanks.
SoLo
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how long do you let it run? just keep trying. it worked fine on my continuum.
otherwise, just go to rootzwiki and use the adb method. i did that on a buddy's continuum, and that worked just fine too.
I've been waiting patiently for my 2.2 OTA upgrade ... now my patience is running thin as hell with Samsung as well as t-mobile for not stepping in to remedy the problem. The worst part is that I just heard that Samsung pulled the 2.2 update from kies. So this is probably a bad sign for any one who is afraid to root or scared the void any warranty.
Im unfortunately one of the ones that hasent wanted to root cause im still paying off my phone. I know its easy, I just want the option to claim warrenty.
Im giving them until the new year to release an OTA for 2.2 or 2.3 if not that a date and then first deadline they miss in rooting.
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I say go ahead and root. Then read a lot. Read some more. And then flash. Don't worry about the warranty. You can always flash back to stock and unroot. They'll never know or care.
Honestly, you're probably not going to get 2.2 by years end. Gingerbread is out and we're still running software that was released over a year ago. At this rate, we'll get Gingerbread (if we ever) couple months after Honeycomb is released..
edit: I also applaud your patience thus far. I couldn't even stand waiting more than a week for JI6 update (after it was reported it was being released OTA), which prompted me to root + flash.
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Honestly, you're probably not going to get 2.2 by years end. Gingerbread is out and we're still running software that was released over a year ago. At this rate, we'll get Gingerbread (if we ever) couple months after Honeycomb is released..
edit: I also applaud your patience thus far. I couldn't even stand waiting more than a week for JI6 update (after it was reported it was being released OTA), which prompted me to root + flash.
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Actually I was one of the lucky ones with JI6. I got the update notification the same day it was announced.
If it wouldn't be too much to ask could some one point me in the direction of a n00bs guide to rooting and flashing
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I would just go with the One click lag fix for rooting. I think the .apk that allowed you to root got pulled from the market. But if you search around here... you can still find it. Very simple, just install the app, click root, boom, start flashing away. Just search for One Click Lag Fix, gotta get one of the older versions though.
Root, read, learn, then install the Stock JL4 Froyo Rom some of us are running. It's pretty slick and practically perfect.
Go ahead and use ODIN and update to 2.2 FL4. You wont be disapointed, unless you talk about battery life. I lost an hour at least going to 2.2. However, the features/speed improvement is well worth it.
I will NEVER EVER EVER buy a phone again that has less than a 12h active battery life again. This looking for a place to charge like a crackwh** is getting old fast.
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Go ahead and use ODIN and update to 2.2 FL4. You wont be disapointed, unless you talk about battery life. I lost an hour at least going to 2.2. However, the features/speed improvement is well worth it.
I will NEVER EVER EVER buy a phone again that has less than a 12h active battery life again. This looking for a place to charge like a crackwh** is getting old fast.
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I will definatly start doing my research for certain rom's.
I feel ya on the searching for a quickee charge lmao ... I bring my charger with me everywhere
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Another question will I be able to install multiple rom's and freely switch between them
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Another question will I be able to install multiple rom's and freely switch between them
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No. If you install another ROM, it will overwrite your previous.
Okay ... so what is a rom manager for ??
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Haxel said:
Go ahead and use ODIN and update to 2.2 FL4. You wont be disapointed, unless you talk about battery life. I lost an hour at least going to 2.2. However, the features/speed improvement is well worth it.
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I am in the same boat - except that I have rooted. I didn't flash a custom ROM since it's so much more difficult than on the G1 which had the excellent Amon Ra recovery to do BART backups in case something went wrong and a flash from a zip file side loaded on the phone.
Flashing ROMs on this is so much more convoluted with ODIN, kernels etc. Plus 2.1 was decent enough on the phone and I kept expecting Samsung to release 2.2. But this is now getting ridiculous and I'm getting pissed of as well. This is definitely the last Samsung phone I'm buying. My next phone is definitely going to be an HTC. HTC modding is stabler and more advanced for obvious reasons, not least of which is that HTC seems relatively okay with it.
What is 2.2 FL4?
FL4 is the latest "leak" of the 2.2 "final" rom for the Vibrant.
Dont listen to others that are saying to factory restore, after you are done with the flash, boot it into recovery (the volume button turn on) and just clear the cache, then reboot. You wont lose any data. (If you rooted 2.1 you will may have to factory restore, but it doesnt hurt to try the cache trick first. The method I'm referring to seems to work best if your a non-root user like me).
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FL4 is the latest "leak" of the 2.2 "final" rom for the Vibrant.
Dont listen to others that are saying to factory restore, after you are done with the flash, boot it into recovery (the volume button turn on) and just clear the cache, then reboot. You wont lose any data. (If you rooted 2.1 you will may have to factory restore, but it doesnt hurt to try the cache trick first. The method I'm referring to seems to work best if your a non-root user like me).
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I seen or read about the cache trick somewhere on here before just can't remember where.
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Can someone post a link to a good thread so I can research what I need to do or atleast provide me with the right word or phrases to search.
My first concerns are what everything is, like ODIN and OCLF (I finally figured out the OCLF thanks to this thread means one click lag fix ... I never put 1&1 together) Also they put the OCLF back in the market with all the tools just minus the ROOT option. Reading through the help file provided with the OCLF app he tells you what you can do to obtain root.
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Haxel said:
FL4 is the latest "leak" of the 2.2 "final" rom for the Vibrant.
Dont listen to others that are saying to factory restore, after you are done with the flash, boot it into recovery (the volume button turn on) and just clear the cache, then reboot. You wont lose any data. (If you rooted 2.1 you will may have to factory restore, but it doesnt hurt to try the cache trick first. The method I'm referring to seems to work best if your a non-root user like me).
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FYI just to clear up any confusion- it's JL4 not FL4
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I'm giving them until the end of the year before I do the same.
All I want is wifi-calling =\
I was in the same boat. It's my wife's phone and she didn't want me screwing with it.
I finally gave up on samsung and installed stock jl4 yesterday and couldn't be happier.
Haven't really seen any bugs at all yet. It's running great.
I've been looking through a few rooting threads to gather information. I see people saying that there making backups and installing busybox or superuser. If acquiring root is as simple as a button press and a restart why make a backup. I understand that It's always good to make a backup when delving into the inner OS.
Also the OCLF, Super Oneclick, and Z4root, methods I've researched are a little less explanitory then i thought. They just say something like "INSTALL AND CLICK ROOT" nothing step by step or anything talking about safty precautions.
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A titanium backup will allow you to restore your apps and more importantly your app data with just one click.
For those holding out on root & awaiting "Official 2.2 OTA", DON'T!! -> read w/in ->>
When I got my Evo, I wanted to wait for the official Sprint ROM/OTA upgrades because I wanted to keep my phone stock. I didn't want root to affect my phone's ability to OTA upgrade and get the latest and greatest from Sprint.
After many advice from others, I decided to root. This is where you will see the repeating theme - "I rooted and loaded a ROM and have never looked back", or "I rooted and upgraded the ROM from the dev section and have never been happier". I certainly agree.
The fact is, when (now IF) the official 2.2 comes out, you will get the EXACT OTA content here just as quickly (probably faster) and be able to flash to that if you wish. Most likely, at that time, you will want an enhanced version such as deodexed. It is not worth holding out on root just because you want the OTA.
With root, you are opening new options such as forcing the phone to roam only, make real/full backups, modify your phone both visually and functionally, and so much more. After root, battery life can certainly be improved by tweaking your phone (remove bloatware, keep unwanted services from starting, etc.)
When I got my Epic, I rooted immediately. I have been running DK28 since it dropped and enjoying what 2.2 has to offer. If/when the official comes out, I will upgrade. There is simply no risk of missing out.
So for you who are on the line, I encourge you to root and move forward. You will have a new world of options and enjoy your phone so much more.
Cheers.
It's true, and we're not that far from seeing a true Gingerbread port too.
Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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I agree with most of this. But from my point of view, I don't even use it for the control, I use it cause it works better. Oh, and the themes. I just hope the devs and themers stick around a while, cause I have this phone for another 20 months :/
new devs and themers will come along. the cdma touch pro 2 is approching 18 months in age and when i stop by that forum, its just as busy as ever, and i dont even recognize the names of roms people are talking about, because the chefs that were cooking when i was rocking that have moved along, but new ones are stepping up in their place.
Installed TrulyEpic 1.2 last night in just a few minutes. No problems at all. GPS is fantastic (I thought it was working before, but now - ) Is it just me, or does the stock ROM limit the display brightness? I think it actually LOOKS better but YMMV.
It's comforting to know that I now have a phone that will probably never be truly obsolete for the next couple years as long as there are ROM builders out there.
but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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I have been holding out but even my patience is tested...
It was tested even more today trying to find a way to root without a PC (as I don't own a PC... well I have one that runs Win2K and no internet at home... yeah.) I did download z4root but it never got past the first screen...it literally loaded for an 1hr the 1st time and 35mins the second before I got ticked and just uninstalled. I may be new to the android scene (long time winmob user that fled after testing a wp7 craptastic phone) but something just isn't right here X/ I mean really.... I simply want flash (outside of skyfire) and to wirelessly tether without having to pay ANOTHER $30 a month.... ...
So yeah, /rant
Ota can come ANY DAY NOW *looks angrily at the sky*
Epic is as Epic does
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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yea it was set to debug , its the original cable that came with it. i have not tried it on a diff pc, it could be a vista issue
Good point. But unless Samsung or sprint announce the update is out. Somebody has to be stock just incase they quietly release the update.
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yep. Im staying on stock for the simple fact that my phone aint broke why try and fix it lol.
I recently flashed DK28, then converted to ext4 and the bonsai mod. Froyo means I can view more webpages and download the froyo apps from the market place. ADW lancher was slow on 2.2, but lancher pro works fine. Also I wasn't getting great battery life but it's back to normal after I set my screen brightness to automatic. Overall I'm happy with my decision.
I too was one that didn't want to root and I was paying for the sprint hotspot :-\ but once I got the first bill for $130 I quickly youtube how to videos on rooting the epic and never looked back. 2.2 runs great with my only bug being, on some calls out I couldn't hear the other person unless I put it speaker phone. I worked my way around this bug by just hitting the speaker button before every call then quickly hit it again to shut off the speaker. It takes very little effort and I'm happier than ever with my epic and I don't give a rats ass about the OTA 2.2
The reason i first rooted was for wireless tether and to get rid of all the bloatware. After that i found all these awesome root apps like ADFREE and ShootME titatanium back up and many others and i can now not live with out adfree its the best app ever!!
After trying wireless tether it was ok then mobile ap came along and i love it. And for this reason alone im staying stock and honestly this is the first phone that does everything i need and doesnt give me any issues even on stock rom. I did get a custom kernal i flashed a good amount of the 2.1 roms and didnt really care for any of them besides noobnls rom. i mean i like custom roms that are blank of extra bloatware and what not.
But yes i agree dont wait to root, you get so many added benefits to make your phone run fast and get many free apps that are ad supported but because of ad free they are like the real one.
Best decision to root.
And for any reason i need to go back to stock to take the phone in i have all the stock flashables on my sd card so i just flash them and its easy as pie.
One click root never gave me any issues with the samsung cord or with any other cords i have.
I agree, I just got tired of it and rooted and installed a custom ROM (Trulyepic 1.2). It's definitely nice. It's also nice to feel free from the shenanigans of corporations trying to do as little as possible to make money off you while maintaining PR.
I admit, it's a bit scary to do with your phone. I'm lucky in that I've gotten familiar with rooting with my Viewsonic Gtablet, but I have to admit that I was pretty nervous the first time.
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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Hey dude, i haven't rooted my phone and I have the 2.2. rom on my computer... it was super easy to install. If you want the update without having to root, just pm me if you want it, and ill upload it and send u a link. with instructions.
I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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My GPS was actually fixed by going to FroYo...but I had some miscellaneous issues, so I flashed back to DI18 and am on SyndicateROM with the Xtreme Kernel. I have to get rid of setCPU soon...1.2 GHz overclock is killing my battery
I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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Technically with the locked bootloader everybody is running a Motorola released version. This new version of gb that was released was by an ota to a few phones. While not a full fledged update to gb it is very stable and reliable. I have been on it and have zero problems. All of my apps appeared. And no bootloops. The directions for everything that needs to be done are very well done and there is almost a zero percent chance of truly bricking your phone. And with sbf'ing and everything I had to do to get to gb it only took me about fifteen total minutes to get there. Enjoy your stable Froyo and popcorn and I will enjoy my stable Gingerbread.
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I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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lol that's funny.
He must have got this site confused with facebook.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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+1. With the locked bootloader and no way for people to try to flash the radio or kernel. It has made this phone nearly impossible to hard brick. I only know of one. Every other person has worked through there problems by the helpful people and guides on this and other forums. You stick around here long enough and you will be eating gingerbread instead of popcorn.
Edit: I should say no way to flash a custom kernel or custom radio.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
I'm not trying to go against the tone of the thread here by saying this, but I have Gingerbread and am really not looking back. Stock Froyo was boring, everyone will agree with that. From there you had either ApeX or rubiX (or later Liberty). I ran all three actually and settled between Apex and rubiX Focused. Apex is/was good for battery life and overall stability. rubiX Focused is/was good for speed and stability, battery life was a bit less than Apex. But to me Gingerbread is the best of both worlds. 30-40 hour battery life PLUS the much improved (for most) Quadrant scores and overall speed and snappiness is like rubiX + ApeX. (video here)
I guess all I'm trying to say is that *when done properly*, if you flash from your favorite ROM to Gingerbread it's completely doable without any hitches or hangups. The thing to remember here is this: you're going from your favorite build/ROM/setup to something completely foreign. When I first flashed 2.3 (the most recent OTA, deodexed & rooted) there were some things I complained about. Then, with time and just playing around with it, I figured them out. I think most people are "having issues" with it because it's really that much of a change. It's not the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1. It's a whole new setup, interface and all. I think it's the process that scares people, and that's understandable, but just remember.. it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to brick your phone. With SBF, you'd almost have to be trying to mess things ups. Find a decent guide and give it a shot. You can always flash back to your current setup.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
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Just a heads up, be careful with Wireless Tether on 2.3.. or even 2.2 if you're going over 5GB. People are saying that's being watched now.
I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I am definitely getting better battery life. The other day I calibrated my battery and had to wait for 1 day 13 hours and change before the thing finally died. Also if the drivers aren't working for you try this. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
just put it on a cd and go. It is linux. I haven't used it since my windows 7 64 bit system did the job for me just fine, but I have heard a really good response with this. Also, if you have any questions about it the guy is really good at answering them.
Since you are on stock....you are really in the perfect position to upgrade to gb the easiest. Root, Droid 2 Bootstrap, wipe, run the 3 files from tbh, wipe, and reboot. Off you go.
Just to note TBH has put out a rooted version of the GB leak....
I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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1. No it will redownload after you flash
2. Yes. No idea why or how to fix
3. Over-the-air. It is an update sent directly to your phone from Verizon.
4. No. But SBF'ing is not difficult at all, it's just the idea that scares people and that people make stupid mistakes
5. I think two, or four maybe. But that is completely unrelated. Look it up
Thx....damn quick response.
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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all links work here
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...3-3-4-5-588-install-patch-root.html#post68035
No joy.
Got an abort on the first file. (Good place to get one I guess). These files were downloaded to the wifey's laptop and copied over.
One distinction ...instructions here included "wipe", but the instructions from the modderX site did not mention wipe.
Furthermore there are 2 wipes .... I tried wiping the cache...no joy. The other wipe looked too scary..sumpin about reset factory blah blah blah.....
Its good to be on vacation.
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